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Speaker 1: Thank you.
Good morning everyone.
Welcome back to the Spiritual
Grind and we are in studio today
the first time doing video.
We are here to be setting up
our camera waving at the camera.
Good morning, drny in the house
.
Hey, we uh got a correction.
We now have.
Our guest speaker.
Today is going to be on on the
18th.
He verified this morning, so
it's not going to be on this
podcast, it will be on the next
one.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And it's Philip.
His name is Philip and he owns
a red light sauna company.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And if you'll look at
our last podcast, all his
information is on the
description of the podcast.
Speaker 2: Right, right, right
yeah.
Infrared.
Speaker 1: It's a red light
sauna of some sort.
Speaker 2: Are you sure it's red
light, or is it infrared?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
I'll let him tell me.
Speaker 2: We have cat-tastrophe
going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we really do.
Our cats are at each other
right now.
Speaker 2: We have one hiding
over here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see her.
Speaker 2: And we have one
stalking over here stalking over
here.
So they want to wait until we
get on air to act a fool.
Play their shenanigans Usually
during the day.
They already by this time have
gone off to their napping hidey
holes and we can actually get
stuff done.
It's like having children.
Speaker 1: Really, because
they're for some reason want to
fight every day.
Speaker 2: I don't understand
why they do Like brothers and
sisters and sisters and sisters
and brothers and brothers One
older sister, one younger sister
.
Yeah, they're not biological,
but they're adopted sisters.
Speaker 1: And they're both
being stupid.
Speaker 2: We're doing the
high-value treat modification
behavioral system.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems to be
working a little bit.
It has calmed down.
Speaker 2: I would agree it is,
but it's taking a minute.
I would like to see instant
change.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But it's taking a
minute.
So I'll apologize in advance if
the editor has to deal with
some cat fight that ends up
happening in the middle of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think
she's going to stay right there
by our feet until we're done,
but anyway, so it brings me to
my topic.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a topic.
Speaker 2: Curiously enough no.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I usually wait and
let you bring the topic.
Speaker 1: Well, my topic is
this and it kind of co-mingles
with another topic.
Okay, and that is.
It's okay to stand up for what
you believe in.
Speaker 2: Ooh, okay.
Speaker 1: It's okay to you.
Know the old catchphrase give
me something to believe in.
Give me something to believe in
.
Speaker 2: Give me something to
believe in I think that's a song
.
Speaker 1: It is a song, and uh,
you know, I heard somebody say
one time um, if you don't stand
up for something, you'll never
stand up at all.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't believe
I've ever heard that.
Speaker 1: And that was actually
a professor one time at a
lecture that did that.
But the part of it is it's okay
.
It's okay to be who you are and
stand up for right and wrong in
ethics and morals and and all
sorts of.
However, what are you, what are
you doing?
This cat's acting a fool and so
, like what brought it up this
morning was our little coffee
talk session and the fact that
it is okay for us to stand up
for what we believe in and how
we've been treated in the right
thing.
It is always okay to stand up
for the right thing.
Speaker 2: As you can see on the
video, he's steadily being
whacked in.
Speaker 1: And being cat-whipped
.
Speaker 2: By the tail that
keeps flickering on the side of
his face.
Speaker 1: Can you move on
please?
But you know we have our
situation where we have had some
health challenges due to some
exposure and setting up for
what's right.
And we've also had.
I've also had another situation
that I'm not going to disclose
yet that I am looking into
within that.
That really was because I was
always the guy in the situation
that was saying this is, hang on
, give him a chance, blah, blah,
blah, blah.
And then something else
happened and it was like you
know what I'm done.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean,
what can be convoluted or
tangled up in that is the whole
societally programmed.
Turn the other cheek mentality.
Yes, I agree, turn the other
cheek mentality.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree.
Speaker 2: Be the one who don't
lower yourself to their
standards.
Be the stand-up guy like turn
the other cheek.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and
that's where I'm at in all this,
do you all see?
Speaker 2: her.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're acting a
fool.
See, she's stalking yeah.
You need to stalk and get the
lease to show up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Cats are a
different kind of beast.
They are gonna do their own
damn thing.
Seriously, you're supposed to
be a like metaphysical
resemblance of being in two
different worlds, and I would
expect you to be more in tune
with your spiritual self.
Speaker 1: Go on Back up.
You're not getting on the go
somewhere else.
Go stalk somewhere else.
Speaker 2: Okay, cat shenanigans
.
Speaker 1: Okay, cease, she laid
down now Good.
And so you know, going through
the scenario we went through,
you know we have a tendency as
humans to hang on to stupid
things and do stupid things
because we feel like we have
been done wrongly.
And when we evacuated ourselves
it brought a lot of fears up
for me.
Speaker 2: Not to be confused
with pooping.
Speaker 1: Yes, don't be
confused with pooping.
Speaker 2: Wow, that was I'm
going to suggest.
Speaker 1: Not doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, never do that
again.
That was ugly.
Speaker 1: But the part of it
for me that brought up the fears
was that we do the right thing,
and I had to reassure myself
that you never go wrong doing
the right thing.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's
right, as long as the intention
behind it is equal to that.
Speaker 1: It's pure.
Speaker 2: Right, doing the
right thing.
If it comes from an energy
place of, you know, revenge.
Speaker 1: I drink Pepsi.
In case Pepsi wants to sponsor
the page.
Speaker 2: Revenge or from an
energy of you know, deep anger
or hate.
If it comes from any of those
energy places, when you're doing
the right thing air quote,
you're doing the right thing,
air quote it's going to have a
different turnout and it's going
to end up much differently than
if you are following the.
I'm truly honestly aligned with
my higher self and I'm doing
the right thing energy.
Those are two different
energies.
I agree, and so you want to make
sure you've dealt with your
emotions within it before you
act.
Because, as we've talked about
before, you know, the reality
and the universe are
frequency-based, energy-based,
and if you're putting out that
energy, that you're only out for
revenge or you're coming from
one of those lower frequencies,
the situation will turn out much
differently than if you're
truly coming from a place of.
Speaker 1: Well, the reality is
that snappy emotional decisions
are generally bad decisions.
When you, as long as you handle
your emotions, emotions are
natural and good, but as long as
you handle them, um, that
decision becomes easier.
And as long as it's not a snap
decision, because snappy motions
cause you to make decisions
that can be viewed as irrational
or not in the pure form.
Speaker 2: Right, right and that
kind of piggybacks with It'll
cause your actions to be
different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it can
marry with revenge, with
hostility.
When you do those kind of
things and when you don't handle
your emotions like you said,
you can make a snap emotional
decision because you want
revenge.
Speaker 2: Right and with us,
our, our, our outcome will be
much different than if you're
genuinely doing it from a place
of, uh, you know, justice and
true justice, finding the place
of the right thing.
Speaker 1: Agreed, agreed, and
so that what in the within this
topic that I think everybody
should talk about is is
understanding that, no matter
what you believe, no matter who
you are, as long as you're being
pure within yourself, it's okay
to stand up for what you
believe in, right, you know,
like we see it all the time, but
you want to remember that you
can't necessarily make
individuals do anything.
Speaker 2: You can just speak
your piece within it.
If you're talking about
interacting with an individual
person, Agreed If you're talking
about interacting with a
company construct or a corporate
construct, then there are
judicial things in place that
can help you navigate that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: But you can't make
another human being really do
anything.
So make sure your expectation,
if you're doing a one-on-one
doing the right thing, you're
not doing it from a place of if
I do this, it will cause the
individual to behave differently
situation because they still
are, uh, in charge of their own
reality and have the free will
to do pretty much whatever they
want to do within it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and
it is actually.
This is actually a mainstream
topic right now, going on about
what the pronouns and how people
want to be identified, and you
know who cares.
You know who cares.
They believe in what?
Speaker 2: they believe.
How does that tie in?
Speaker 1: Because they're
standing up for what they
believe in.
Speaker 2: Oh, I gotcha.
Speaker 1: You know, and so it's
a mainstream topic going on is
we have, you know, the
conversation is they believe
what they believe and that's
okay, and you can't change
anybody else's mind, and nor can
the people that don't believe
in it be able to change their
mind, and that's the human
experience, right?
You know?
The political parties, the
religions to everything.
It's who cares, who cares.
Let people live their life.
You can choose to be a part of
it or not right but if they're
standing up for what they
believe in, that should tell you
something about their morals
and their ethics is if they
truly believe in something and
they're standing up for it, that
tells you something about them.
That tells you a lot.
That tells you that whether you
think it's right or wrong that
that person is doing something
with their life and I think it's
a part of the human experience
is understanding that a as long
as you're standing up for what
you believe in in a pure way and
not out of an emotional
standpoint or with some kind of
expectation that you're going to
preach the gospel or you're
going to make sure that
everybody calls you by the right
pronoun, that's okay.
But just realize you don't
control others and that's why
we're in this human experience,
because everybody can have their
own thoughts, patterns,
programs, emotions and live the
experience together.
It's a choice that we can do
together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and
like I often say and will
continue to say is, whoever the
offended party is, they're the
one that has the work to do,
whoever, the offended party is.
They're the one that has the
work to do you know so if I call
you the wrong pronoun and you
get bothered by it, that's not
my baggage, that's yours.
Speaker 1: Correct, you know and
.
Speaker 2: I can bring a topic
that I have personally and be
accountable for it.
Speaker 1: Totally agree.
Speaker 2: You know Is the key
takeaway, no matter what it is.
Speaker 1: You know, I've come
across this a couple of times
and to where people they believe
in something purely in their
heart, they think this is the
right thing, this is the right
way, and like, for example, when
I became an ordained minister
and I was preaching in one of
the religious thing, one of the
religious uh um, denominations,
denominations, and when I got
told to do it a certain way, I
didn't feel it was right and I
stood up for what I believed in
and I so I was like, listen, so
perhaps this is not for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to
stand my ground here Right and
if you all choose to join me,
that's okay.
But I am choosing not to take
that on Right and I had no
expectations out of it.
I walked away.
No hard feelings, no fouls, no
flags went flying on the field.
None of that.
Speaker 2: Right Flags went
flying on the field.
None of that Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know,
and it's the same thing I did
when I was officiating football
and I left.
You know I retired from it for
two reasons A they were changing
the rules of it and B, they
were putting parameters on the
physical expectations of people
that were going to.
It was going to really thin out
their field.
Yeah, and I didn't believe in
it.
You know, I granted, I get it.
We had to do the physicals
twice a year and go through all
that stuff and the making sure
we can keep up.
Speaker 2: But I left because I
was like you know, I don't want
any part of that yeah, you get
to make that choice yeah and we
all, we all get to make our own
choices, that's you all do your
thing the way you're going to do
it, but I want nothing to do
with it right and whenever you
you know, in the whole construct
of how this multiverse
experience uh works as a spirit,
having a human experience
that's one of the key parts of
it is um to that acknowledgement
place of A.
I get to make my choices.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: And you don't
necessarily have to.
If you make a choice and
there's guilt that comes behind
that, the questions need to be
okay.
Who am I making this choice for
?
Yes, and why am I still
continuing to choose to make the
they or them outside of me
pleased and happy?
Yes, that's what I would look
at.
Yes, totally when you get to a
place where you can make those
choices, set boundaries, honor
those for yourself, without any
kind of feel bad type, title,
guilt, shame, any of that.
That's the real growth place to
get to.
Speaker 1: Agreed, I agree
totally.
Speaker 2: And then, not
expecting them to necessarily
change what they're doing.
Yeah, you can have expectations
and that would be an additional
advancement in the school, so
to speak.
Yeah, like the graduation to
the next grade is, I'm to set my
boundary.
I am going to react according
to your behavior towards that
boundary, but I'm not going to
do it from a place of expecting
you to change what you're doing.
I am just going to tend to me.
Speaker 1: That's correct.
Speaker 2: And I am going to
make those choices accordingly,
and it could be that I remove my
so as we video this he's
basically doing a Pepsi video
commercial.
Speaker 1: No, I drink Pepsi all
the time.
Speaker 2: Really, I'm just
playing around For those who are
just listening and not seeing
the video.
Speaker 1: You know, and that
you're totally right, because
what's going to happen if you
put expectations on the other to
think the way you think?
You're going to be disappointed
every single time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Because none of us speak exact
or think exactly alike, right,
you know, even even Dr Jenny and
myself myself, we don't have
exact um beliefs on things
absolutely not, as a matter of
fact, when we have discussions
and conversations and coffee
talk, there are many times where
one or both of us will say,
well, we're gonna agree to
disagree and leave it at that
listen, lady, I ain't going
there we try to say it in a
little bit more loving way, yeah
, we do we agree to disagree,
and that's okay yes, it is okay,
it is 100 okay.
Speaker 1: Um, and that's one of
the reasons why we started
doing coffee, talk is to openly
to people, because everybody
always said how do you all not
fight, how do you all not fight,
how do you all not argue?
Speaker 2: You know, I think
back in the day, honestly,
Coffee Talk started because we
were teaching each other and
ourselves in our relationship
how to communicate with each
other in a way that each of us
could understand, because we
were on a journey on trying to
figure out what makes up a
healthy relationship for us.
Yeah, uh, because we both came
from uh unique rocky world.
Rocky world, yeah and the
reality that I think we both
were at when we met years ago is
there's no book you get handed
Like you don't get handed the
playbook on how to do a
relationship.
You kind of have to figure it
out as you go along, and it's
kind of like the spiritual
awakening process you figure out
what works for you, yeah, and
you do that.
There's no black and white, do
it this way, do it that way,
kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting here
holding my beautiful quartz
crystal sphere.
That's one of the things I do
to keep my energy frequency
elevated on some days so that
when I channel information for
everybody in the collective and
us, that I am at that highest
frequency so that whatever
entity can come through has the
ability to do that.
Speaker 1: I know you hold
crystals.
I drink Pepsi.
Speaker 2: That's one of the
techniques that I use, but that
doesn't mean that that technique
works for every single person
on the planet, and so, as we,
you know, guide and and teach
along the way.
This would be one of the tricks
.
I say hey, you know what?
Test it out, see what it does
for you.
If it works, great, if it
doesn't, toss it in the trash
and move on yeah and so I think
our coffee talk was kind of that
, yes, figuring out, uh fully.
Speaker 1: Each other's
languages.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how does this
person understand me?
How do I need to communicate so
that this person clearly
understands me?
Speaker 1: And we were both very
staunch on standing up for our
own self.
Yeah, yeah, and that's okay to
do.
Yeah, I think that was one of
the things that really attracted
me more was hey, you know, this
lady laid it all out here and
she's standing up for who she is
, and you know what.
I think I'm going to accept it
just because I never had anybody
do that before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was not a
get a flimsy stick and draw a
halfway invisible line in the
sand.
Speaker 1: Nope.
Speaker 2: I freaking dug a
trench and we both did.
We both dumped everything yeah,
like listen, this is what
you're getting yourself into
here's all the baggage I'm still
carrying, that I am still
working with.
Speaker 1: Here's the good, the
bad, the ugly, the beautiful
like here it is yeah, it was a
pretty funny knock down, drag
out fight that went on.
Wait, I mean this went off like
four or five hours.
We just both started dumping
everything.
You don't want to be with me
because this right.
Speaker 2: It was almost like we
were trying to run the other
person off, because I think we
were.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
That's the truth.
Speaker 2: I think that's
exactly what we were doing I
think we're both at a place
where we weren't out tooling
around the planet looking for a
relationship.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: We were perfectly
comfortable being ourselves
within our bubble yeah, and
doing it by ourselves.
Speaker 1: I was in the process
of refinding myself completely,
yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so,
therefore, it gave us a
different perspective.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so,
therefore, it gave us a
different perspective.
Speaker 2: Like you know,
sometimes you go into a
relationship and your
desperation mode kind of kicks
in and so you put on that pretty
fancy face kind of persona and
you hide some of that crap and
that doesn't usually work out
well, right.
Speaker 1: I agree, some of that
crap, and that doesn't usually
work out well.
Right, I agree, but you want it
so bad.
You want to behave, so to speak
.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's
where everybody puts on their
best face when they're
relationship.
And, boy, we did not Put on
your best behavior, put on your
best face.
Speaker 1: We took our baggage
and just poured it on the floor
in front of each other.
Speaker 2: Listen this is what I
look like when I get up in the
morning my shit stinks, my
breath is atrocious till I brush
my teeth.
I got baggage in all these
different directions and I think
that it's.
I think it's a good thing to do
, because then it gives the
other person full knowledge full
disclosure declassified and
they get to make an informed
decision on okay, are these
things that I can navigate with
this person and do I want to?
And that's what I think is the
beginning of a healthy
relationship.
Speaker 1: And I think the
bigger part of that is neither
one of us expected the other one
to say okay.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the
bigger part of it was For me was
full disclosure and being okay
If you said eh.
I appreciate your full
disclosure, but this is not
something I can or want to
navigate.
Speaker 1: Let's be friends.
Dog Right yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that was the
biggest thing for me was coming
from that new place of oh my
gosh, I don't want to be alone.
I want this relationship to
work out.
Let me keep all my skeletons in
my closet.
Let me divulge them at just the
right time when I've already
got him in my clasp Right.
So this relationship for me.
I had evolved and really done
some self-study and part of
meeting you and came to the
realization that you know what I
?
I'm okay, yeah, whether this
one works or whether it doesn't,
and so I am gonna be completely
, I will survive, right.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry.
Speaker 2: I am going to be
completely open and completely
upfront and it felt so much
better to be that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have
to go through life hiding
anything.
Speaker 2: That's right.
It felt really good not to have
to fake in and then do that
dumbass dance.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They just really
appreciated that and it was for
me.
I like I said the um being okay
either way.
Speaker 1: Right Yep.
Speaker 2: If you chose to join
me on the journey, fine.
Speaker 1: Listen, I got 19 kids
, 27 X's, and I owe $100,000.
Oh, did I mention I take 14
mental medications?
Speaker 2: And if no, that's
true, by the way.
Speaker 1: I got 27 baby mamas
and if you, chose not to.
Speaker 2: I was okay as well.
Speaker 1: And that was a new
place for me.
It was me too.
I had not come into a possible
relationship from that, you know
, I'd actually made that
decision in my little
self-discovery period where I
was single and going through all
that stuff and I was like, well
, I was going through a divorce
but I came to that decision.
Like you know what, I am not
accepting anybody fake anymore.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 1: I am not going to be
faking anybody anymore, and I
deserve better than that.
Speaker 2: And it's very freeing
.
Speaker 1: Yes, I did.
You know I did, I did.
I had to be myself.
It was time for me to be myself
and not what everybody expected
me to be.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Because that's what I
had done over the course of the
years.
I wasn't standing up for me.
I wasn't standing up for what I
believed in.
Yeah, I wasn't standing up for
what I felt was wrong and right.
Right I was.
I was doing what I thought
everybody else expected me to do
exactly and, and you know what
it fulfilled for me do tell
absolutely nothing doing what
everybody else expected me to do
right exactly now what did when
I come into the place to where
I changed it and I was like you
know what?
I'm going to stand up for myself
.
I'm going to be me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be me.
If you don't like it, turn your
damn head.
Speaker 2: Or go away.
Speaker 1: Or go away.
Speaker 2: And being okay with
that.
That's very freeing.
Speaker 1: It has been a
phenomenal relationship.
Speaker 2: It has.
Speaker 1: So far and so far,
and it's been awesome.
You know we've been married now
for a few years and together a
lot more, and I wouldn't change
anything.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I mean are we perfect
?
Do we, do we have the perfect
cohesive relationship?
I would say yes.
Do we have human moments in it?
100%.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
We have what's perfect for us.
That's correct and and uh.
Speaker 1: I mean, I learned a
long time ago what you say, I do
, and what you, what you teach,
I have to listen to and I just
shut up.
Speaker 2: I am the doctor, by
the way.
Speaker 1: She always says I did
, I'm designer, you're
construction, so basically that
tells you what, that, what she
says goes and it's my, my job to
put it in place.
Speaker 2: Your job, to figure
it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm okay
with that.
It works out well because I
enjoy building things.
Speaker 2: So right like last
night for supper, I was hungry
for tomato soup and grilled
cheese.
Yeah, and he keep asking me
okay, well, do you want this, do
you want that?
How many slices of cheese you
want?
I'm like you're the previous
you're the chef yeah, can you
just effing figure it out.
I was like yes, ma'am, I'm
sorry like why are you asking me
all these questions?
Speaker 1: well, because I've
made grilled cheese before and
you said it was too cheesy.
Speaker 2: That's why just make
it, for goodness sake no, in all
reality, it's uh.
Speaker 1: We boasted it for
ourselves and that's what I'm
we're teaching everybody in this
podcast today.
It is 100 okay to stand up for
what you believe in, develop
your beliefs, stand up for them
and continue to uh cultivate
them cultivate them and honor
them and let them grow.
And and you know, and what I
would say on the flip side of
that is, if something, somebody,
brings something up to you that
you don't resonate with you,
and it is okay for you to say,
listen, I'm a cup of tea today,
but I would still stop and look
at it and see what the world is
trying to bring to your
attention.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's
always opportunities for
mirroring.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: And what that by
definition.
What that means is that your
reality is always mirroring
something back to you.
Yes, that you can learn from.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
And don't you talk about
mirroring in your book?
I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, scripted from
within.
Speaker 1: It's out on Amazon.
You can get it at Amazon or KDP
.
It's soon to be on Audible.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Scripted from within.
Speaker 2: It's a nice quick
little read.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You can see it's not
too beefy.
Speaker 1: No, not too beefy,
just a good little handbook.
Speaker 2: Get through it.
Speaker 1: I would suggest
reading one chapter at a time,
making your notes that's
included in there, and then read
the second chapter and then go
back and review first and second
.
You know this is this is one of
those books that you need to
read one, two.
Go back and read one, two, then
three, then read two, three,
four and kind of go back through
and skip through it.
Speaker 2: And because it uh I
would agree, it's, definitely
it's a study guide really study
cat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh
interactive and I expected it to
be more than that because, man,
the manuscript was much longer,
but when you put it in print,
it shrinks it down yeah it was
crazy.
It's like 70, what?
Uh?
No, 105 pages, I think I don't
know, because the page numbers
got taken off somewhere.
I don't know actually how many
pages it is, but you can get get
it on KDP for $15.89.
Oh, I'm sorry, on Amazon for
$15.89 or on KDP for $9.99.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the page
numbers are on the manuscript
but somehow, when we ordered it
and got it in print, there was
no page numbers in it.
They are written in invisible.
No, I did screw up when I cause
I edited it Invisible ink, I
think.
Speaker 1: I, I, you know I may
have, I may have colored the
page numbers wrong or something
and they just didn't come out,
but cause I did the editing on
it, it was me and and I did not
put page numbers on the index,
right, but I did put them in the
book and that's okay.
I screwed it up, that's all
right.
We'll learn.
We'll do it better next time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the
thing is you know that was one
of the coffee talks we had
yesterday.
Yeah, and that's a nice
reminder is taking action
doesn't mean doing it perfectly.
It means put yourself out there
, take action and remember that
nothing is not fixable.
You can't fuck it up.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
So the topic of this podcast
and she was just talking about
that is that you kind of marry
together and just know that it
is okay Any way, shape or form
as long as you you stand up and
you believe in things and you
want to defend those things and
you want to be a part of those
things and you want to spread it
across the world, that is okay
to do.
Just don't have the
expectations of others, because
those expectations are going to
disappoint you every single time
.
You may find some of your
people that agree with you and
they're going to jump in there
and they're going to do it with
you, but you're going to find
people that don't, and so you
have to free the expectations
and the emotions behind it,
cause when you start
interjecting emotions into
expectations, you end up with
bad, bad things happening.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say bad,
bad, they're just going to be a
reality that you wouldn't have
necessarily otherwise wanted to
be a part of.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 2: I mean I think bad,
bad, bad is a little bit of an
over embellishment.
I mean, unless of course you go
out and murder somebody, then
that's not going to be very
pleasant at all.
Speaker 1: Right, but hey, you
know what I like.
Speaker 2: Oh, dear God, please,
where are you taking us with?
Speaker 1: that I've been
watching that show Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've been
enjoying that show.
Wednesday Addams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Wednesday
Addams show they made a series
out of it.
Yeah.
Season one season two yeah,
season two just came out.
Speaker 2: It's a seasonal
little thing.
Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying
it.
Speaker 2: It is kind of a fun
little.
Speaker 1: I sit here all
morning watching it and didn't
get anything accomplished.
Speaker 2: The premise behind it
is she's kind of like an
investigator.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she would be a
magical investigator, murder
mystery crossover into the
magical world.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I mean Hark, the
Raven, nevermore, and they have
magical powers.
There's got to be something to
that, because the school she
goes to is called Nevermore, the
dance they went to is called
the Raven, and then these ravens
keep showing up in the thing.
There's got to be something to
that with the Edgar Allen Poe
thing.
Of course, coming up somewhere
in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I remember
correctly, she says somewhere
along the way, even in the movie
, or somewhere something about
liking.
Speaker 1: Edgar Allen Poe and
his works or something.
Nice.
It was a good book actually.
Speaker 2: Edgar Allan Poe or
the Adams family.
Speaker 1: No, edgar Allan Poe's
work.
Oh yeah, he had.
He had a few books, but I'm
trying to remember the name of
that book, now that you I said
that because it was a poem, that
book, now that I said that
Because it was a poem Hark the
Raven, nevermore, hark the Raven
, nevermore, what was that that
came out?
I'll have to look it up.
Speaker 2: Anyway, well, have
the listeners look it up and
send us a message.
Speaker 1: Yeah, send us a
message on that, because I can't
remember the name of that.
It was a poem.
I believe actually that he
wrote.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
So just to recap, it is
perfectly okay to put your
boundaries in place and honor
those boundaries and not let
people cross those boundaries.
Speaker 1: That is correct.
Speaker 2: It is okay to stand
up for what you believe in, even
if your beliefs change the very
next day.
That is okay too.
Some people feel like they have
to carry a belief with them
until the end of time.
Yes, and you don't.
Speaker 1: That's right, because
things change, humans change,
situations change.
Speaker 2: You experience a
situation under the premise of
this belief, and when you're
done with that experience and
you're ready to move on to the
next mission or experience,
those beliefs may not benefit
you.
And so you have to upgrade your
belief system in order to have
a really authentic experience
with the next part of the
journey.
So it's okay for your beliefs
to change from day to day,
moment to moment minute to
minute, but the key is honoring
those.
Don't let people, situations or
events cause you to veer from
that.
If that's what you're doing at
the moment, stand up for it and
it's perfectly okay, but do it
from the right intention that's
correct?
Well, I think you're the one
that gets offended it's on you
situation.
Speaker 1: That's your baggage
pick up that coin and flip it.
Speaker 2: offended in a
situation, that's your baggage
Pick up that coin and flip it,
because it's your baggage.
That's your reality saying to
you.
You might want to look at this
one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, well, I feel pretty
complete.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think
it's a good place to cut her
off man.
Speaker 1: Listen, we have
multiple things going on in our
life and in our business here,
and one of the things is we have
a store coming out for merch.
It's going to have some
merchandise in it that's related
to the podcast and it's also
going to have some merchandise
related to Jenny's Oracle card
deck called the salty tarot,
yeah it is the shit your spirit
guides wanted to tell you.
Yeah, or meant it's meant to
say is what it says, and we're
working on some, some exclusive
deals and some other things
going on outside.
Speaker 2: Those are really fun
to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to
be.
It's going to be a fun.
And don't forget to check out
our website,
wwwthemerchcentersorg.
That's m-e-r-c-c-e-n-t-e-r-s
and put the d in front of it.
And our youtube channel for the
spiritual grind is at the
spiritual grind now?
Speaker 2: um, yeah, because
we're going to start doing video
.
Yeah, today's the practice run,
so we can kind of see what our
equipment's doing.
Speaker 1: This is why I'm kind
of making this a little shorter,
so I have a whole lot less to
work with.
Yeah, but what?
Speaker 2: So we can get ready
to do.
Speaker 1: We got our kudos.
We got our kudos from
Buzzsprout.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we put out
our 75th episode.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And now we're going
video Fun, fun, fun.
Put out our 75th episode, right
and uh, now we're going video
fun, fun.
Yeah, it's going to be a good
thing.
Yeah, and we're averaging quite
a few downloads.
It's growing.
Y'all keep sharing it.
Share it with your friends, um,
put it out there for us right
exactly um, anyway, I feel
complete, do you feel complete?
Yeah, I'm good hey guys, don't
forget to like, follow, follow
and share and ring that bell.
Y'all have an awesome day.
Speaker 2: Love ya Take care.