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Speaker 1: Good morning
everybody.
Welcome back to the podcast
Season two, episode two in the
new studio.
Speaker 2: Season two.
Speaker 1: Good morning.
Speaker 2: Good morning.
Speaker 1: We hope you're
enjoying our podcast and the
podcast season two is probably
going to be a little bit more
focused on topics.
I think I don't know why I said
that, but it came to me.
Good morning.
Speaker 2: Good morning Dr.
Speaker 1: Jenny, Good morning.
Well, it is 2025, January 4th
2025.
Speaker 2: January 4th.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, we're
already four days into the year.
Speaker 2: Four days in.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Whipping along.
Speaker 1: I got a question for
you, Dr Jenny.
Can you teach an old dog new
tricks?
Speaker 2: Depends on the dog.
Speaker 1: Depends on the dog.
That's exactly my topic this
morning, because it's been kind
of the highlight of our last
couple weeks is are you open?
Are we open?
As humans, we have a tendency
to believe that we can't learn
something.
Um, or we're scared of learning
something by you know, we get
embarrassed when we mess up, and
we are currently in our 50s and
just demolished our entire
living room to turn it into a
music room, and we now have four
instruments in our living room
and are working on getting we're
going to get some drums, and so
actually we have more of the
instruments than that.
We have six, seven, seven
instruments in there.
Speaker 2: Well, we don't have
all the instruments in there,
you haven't put your little drum
in there.
Well, we don't have all the
instruments in there.
You haven't put your little
drum in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my drum or my
native flute and your native
flute.
So I guess there's about nine
or ten instruments we're
learning to play music.
Speaker 2: Listen, it's a whole
like music room.
If you want to come and see how
it feels to play an instrument,
we probably have it On the 8th.
The air piano will be here.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think I
forgot about that.
What do they call that?
Melancholy, something or other
Melodolic keyboard it's where
you blow into it to play a sound
.
Speaker 2: I think the sling is
like air piano.
It has this corrugated tube
where you blow into the tube and
it's attached to like this
little hand keyboard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know Funny
story.
Our activity coordinator hired
an entertainer for our New
Year's Eve celebration.
Yeah, we thought he was
bringing a band.
Speaker 2: We did.
We thought he was going all out
, man, and he did.
He brought a 32-key air piano,
not just the 15-key.
Speaker 1: Oh, he did bring a
32-key air piano and he was
carrying around his amplified
sound on his belt via a
Bluetooth speaker.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: And the look on
everybody's face was priceless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was quite
comical.
Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me
wrong, it would have been a good
little opener.
Speaker 2: I think he has the
potential to be like a dinner
music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like walking
around.
Speaker 2: Walking around the
dining room while they're eating
.
Speaker 1: But not for that
price.
Speaker 2: But not for that
price, absolutely not.
That was ridiculous.
Yeah, he was charging like $50
a key per hour.
Speaker 1: I know it was
insanity, anyway.
So she found this air what do
you call it?
Air piano and ordered it.
But anyway, so back to the
topic.
Being open to learning is what
we're here for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I
think what it's about for us is
following.
Just what we always talk about
is following your highest
excitement, your highest joy,
and just running with it,
whatever that looks like,
reminding people that you're not
a kid anymore and you can have
as many toys as you want and you
never have to clean out your
toy box if you don't want to.
Speaker 1: Just because mom and
dad said so.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell
everybody you ready for the
myth bust.
Speaker 2: Let us have it.
Speaker 1: There are no kids
that really want your old toys.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know
that.
I completely agree with that.
Did your mom and dad tell?
Speaker 1: you that.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: We got to clean out
your toy box because there's
kids.
Speaker 2: To be honest with you
, my parents never told me that
no, okay, mine did I, however,
found myself telling my kids
that oh because in my younger
days, when I was pretty caught
up in the, the house has to be
clean and everything has a place
.
Speaker 1: Everything has a
Typical Texas image.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of keeping
up with the Joneses thing.
And when the toy box got too
full it was like okay, time to
downsize.
And I don't really even know
why, because I've always given
they always had the rule of your
room is your space and it can
look however you want.
There's no rules there, as long
as you keep the door shut and
keep the crap out of my living
room.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Just to kind of give
them a space if they needed to
be a messy kid, so that I didn't
make them live in my box, so to
speak.
So that was the compromise.
Yeah, so to speak.
So that was the compromise is,
once I got older, to where I
wasn't cleaning the room, I was
like okay, this is your space.
If you want to be a messy kid,
then be a messy kid, because I
can remember my father getting
on to my sisters relentlessly.
I was that OCD kid.
Was that OCD kid Like?
I took cardboard and
subsectioned my drawers into
compartments for socks and
panties and tank tops and I mean
like everything.
Literally I was like monk on TV
.
Everything had a place, every
place had a thing.
If you came in and moved it, it
aggravated me.
Speaker 1: So just don't even
come in my room right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my sisters, my
younger sister, she was kind of
probably that halfway point
between me and my middle sister
and my middle sister was just a
tornado.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Just a tornado, and
in our early days they had to
share a room, and because I was
the oldest, I guess by I don't
know authority of the king, I
got to have my own room and they
had to share, and so one side
of the room would be somewhat
organized and the other side
would just literally look like a
tornado came through.
My sister would wear clothes
out of the floor.
She didn't know if they were
clean or if they were dirty.
They definitely were never
ironed, and I can remember
hearing my dad just constantly
fuss and complain at her and
then at them.
Because of them sharing a room,
the other one would get in
trouble, and so then what ended
up happening is my younger
sister would end up cleaning the
entire room so she wouldn't get
in trouble, and my middle
sister got off the hook of
having to have her space cleaned
, and so I didn't want that for
my kids.
That's where I'm going with the
story.
Yeah, so I was like you know
here, this is your space, your
bedroom.
Keep the door shut if it's
messy and if things start oozing
out of the door, then we're
going to have a conversation,
because I don't want my space to
look like that.
Speaker 1: Right, I never.
Really.
There's two times in my life as
a child I can remember having
an abundance of anything, and
that was Hot Wheels, cars and
He-Man and the Master of the
Universe.
Other than that, I really
remember no other toys.
I didn't really ever have that
much.
It's crazy because the
perspective of my parents were
that I had a ton.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And my mom got mad
one time when I told her I mean,
we were a low-income family.
We didn't have the money for me
to have an abundance of
anything, for it to be spread
everywhere.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, and we
were the same way, we did a lot
of moving.
And we were the same way, we
did a lot of moving.
And when you move that much,
it's not beneficial to have a
lot of crap to have to pack.
So our toys were very limited
in our younger years.
Now, when we got to a point
where we were in the same place,
which by this time I was in
high school.
Speaker 1: Then we had a little
bit more, but then we were past
the age of like toys in a toy
box.
You know what it caused?
What it caused me to do is when
I did start working and have
making my own money is I would
buy a ton of crap.
I would just blow money and
buying things that my friends
had or whatever.
Like I remember the first time
I went and bought me a white
pair of bugle boy jeans.
I was so excited and my dad
made fun of me for buying white
jeans.
It was all from that commercial
when that lady pulls over on
the hitchhiker and says, pardon
me, but are those bugle boy
jeans you're wearing?
And I had to have them because
she was hot and he was cool
looking.
I don't even remember the
commercial, honestly, but what
it caused me to do later on in
life is kind of minimize myself
and not open the door for new
things.
And I mean I did it for the
kids, you know, because my son
had a stinking recliner in his
bedroom.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He had a recliner and
his gaming system and a fancy
gaming chair.
He had all this stuff.
I think he had every Nerf gun
in existence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like our
generation definitely went
through most of this.
Speaker 1: A pendulum, a
pendulum with their kids.
Speaker 2: I agree Because my
kids were the same way.
Anything and everything I
wanted to be able to have or
play with, I bought it for them
so that I could play with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my son came
home from first grade crying
because all his friends had cell
phones and he didn't.
Speaker 2: First grade.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like y'all are
in first grade, my friend had
him daddy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like y'all
are in first grade, my friend's
having daddy.
Yeah, I mean, I can remember
getting my son a cell phone in
third grade.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't even a
conversation, it was just like
it was the norm.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, isn't
it?
Speaker 2: In third grade.
Speaker 1: It was nuts.
And so what it made me do when
my son came home is because I
remember that feeling my friends
having things that I didn't.
And so what do I do Him?
And I go down to the cell phone
store and I buy him a fancy
cell phone, right, or I'd say a
fancy cell phone.
Back then it wasn't really
fancy cell phones out yet, they
weren't smartphones.
Speaker 2: I mean at the time
they were fancy.
I got him a BlackBerry, I think
, if I remember right.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's fancy in
that day and age.
Yeah, I had the.
Speaker 2: BlackBerry was top of
the line.
Yeah, it was, and he could
probably work it better than you
could.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, most
definitely.
Speaker 2: In a very quick,
short amount of time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so it kind
of marries in to being open,
because no matter who we are,
what we are and how we are, we
should always make ourselves
open to, as you call it, the
next feel good place.
Right and if you have that, you
know fleeting thought of
anything.
Stop and check with it, Like,
for example, this music room in
our apartment or in our house,
started with a thought at
Christmas.
We were driving down the road
and I said to Jenny hey, what
are we doing for Christmas this
year?
Because we don't normally buy
Christmas for each other,
because we just do Christmas
year round.
Whenever we want something, we
just go get it.
And she said well, I think I'm
going to learn to Play a musical
instrument, so you're probably
going to buy me a musical
instrument for Christmas.
I was like, bet, let's do it.
And we go.
Literally we turned.
We were on our way to go
grocery shopping, I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We went to the music
store, came home with electric
guitar and amp and a cello and
hence started the journey of
being open to learning new
things.
Speaker 2: Well, even down to
being open to transforming your
house non-traditional.
Yeah, like we.
So we live in a two-bedroom
apartment.
So it has a little living room,
it's got a dining room, two
bedrooms, two baths.
You know, it's just your normal
two-bedroom apartment.
Speaker 1: It's about 1,400
square feet, something like that
.
Speaker 2: I literally got rid
of all of the furniture except
this big-ass coffee table we
don't know what to do with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know right,
we tried to give it away.
He couldn't.
I mean, don't get me wrong,
it's a nice coffee table.
Speaker 2: And what I found was
for half a second, when I made
that decision and the couch
actually went away, I was like
eek, yeah, it was kind of like a
give it away remorse, kind of
like the buyer's remorse.
It was like, oh Lord, what did
I do?
Yeah, like my house is not this
white picket fence American
dream house anymore.
And so I did have to like
release and redefine what the
American dream is for me,
because for half a second I was
like, oh no, am I okay with this
?
Am I, am I okay with this?
And then self said, well,
whether you're okay or not.
And then self said, well,
whether you're okay or not?
the couch and chair are gone,
and so it's either buy musical
equipment or buy a new couch and
chair.
Speaker 1: It's crazy how people
react, because when we started
telling our friends, hey, does
anybody want this?
I mean it is a Cindy Crawford
home edition white leather sofa
and recliner.
You know we paid like seven
grand for the set and we started
telling our friends we're gonna
hey, does anybody want it?
We're gonna give it away, and
it's like two years old, and
they were like what you're gonna
do what?
Speaker 2: so it just exposed to
me their lack of openness right
, exactly even just their lack
of openness of what your living
room is supposed to look like
yeah, and when we give it away
to, we have this young couple
that work for us and you know
they're starting out their life.
Yeah.
Speaker 1: And she said you're
giving away your couch.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, you
want it.
And she said yeah, you know,
without hesitation.
Speaker 2: Well, I can remember
too, when my kids were growing
up.
There was a time where I
emptied the entire living room
just so we could play kickball
in the living room.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: And getting okay with
the living room not having to
have any furniture in it, just
because society teaches you that
that's how the living room is
supposed to be set up why not
outside?
Speaker 1: letting those um I
don't know, just because just to
be different, because I wanted
to play with them and I didn't
necessarily always want to be
outside in the yard, and I don't
know I don't know, it just kind
of happened you have to worry
about the ball getting kicked
over the fence no, but you kind
of did have to worry about the
ball hitting the windows what'd
you do?
Hang pillows over.
Speaker 2: It was a little bit
of an issue.
Um, I kind of just released
that and said, okay, if it
happens, it happens it is what
it is.
It is what it is and so we we
did for a few months, until the,
until that kind of wore off, we
played kickball every weekend
and all the kids come to the
house and we had a kickball game
in our living room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's insane.
Must have been a very big
living room I mean, it was
fairly big yeah for sure you
know, because in texas the whole
open concept oh, everything's
big.
I mean, you know there's truth
behind that statement.
Everything's bigger in Texas.
Like you go buy a $500,000
house in Florida, you're getting
1400 square feet.
You buy a $500,000 house in
Texas, you're getting 4,000
square feet.
Speaker 2: Right and in Texas
you're like if they were to hand
you a 1,400 square foot house
you would laugh and say what
Uh-uh.
This is not enough room.
Yeah, it's crazy, this is the
size of my closet literally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
It's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: That was a place of
adaption that I needed to make,
because I'm used to like 3,000
or 4,000 square feet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and high roofs,
and you know like everything in
Florida is flat roof pretty
much.
Speaker 2: Flat and kind of
boxed in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, boxed in
because of the hurricane.
Speaker 2: Definitely had to
adapt.
Speaker 1: But anyway.
So when our friend started
making comments about us giving
away our furniture, it made me
stop and look at.
Why did they think that way?
Because it did bother me one
bit.
I was like I don't care, it can
go, it didn't bother me at all.
Speaker 2: Right, well, I mean
for me for sure.
As a doctor of paranthropology,
I'm always curious as to why
humans behave and act the way
that they do, and I found it
very, very curious.
Speaker 1: And so I asked one of
them why does it bother you
that I'm giving away my couch
and my recliner?
And he said well, what are you
going to sit on?
Oh my God, you're not going to
have nothing in your living room
.
And my response was there's
stores.
You can buy things at stores.
And he said but why would you?
It's two years old, I mean,
it's got a couple of cat
scratches on it, but who cares?
It's very comfortable.
Well, you didn't take it Right,
but anyway.
So what it made me stop and
look at was why was he thinking
that way?
And you know, when we brought
up him learning a musical
instrument to him, he was like
he.
The fear just came, overcame
him and he made the comment the
reason why jenny bought that air
piano is because he was here
that night and watched the guy
playing the thing.
And he sent a text to us that
said oh, I'll join your jam
session if you buy this.
Jenny ordered it.
And now, when I told him that
you ordered it, he was like
Don't challenge me to a jousting
duo.
Speaker 2: I will sharpen up my
joust.
Speaker 1: It was pretty funny,
but so it made me why.
Why do people get that way?
So, first of all, I thought
this is my thought and you can.
You're the doctor in this.
So the fear that society
teaches you that you can't teach
an old dog new tricks, or what
would other people think?
What do other people think?
And people weigh so much of
their reality on that statement
of what people think, weigh so
much of their reality on that
statement of what people think,
that they stop themselves from
being open to new adventures or
doing things outside that box.
You know when we were kids?
Or say you know when we were in
high school, that's one of the
things they taught.
Oh, an employer wants you to
think outside the box.
Speaker 2: They don't really.
But, they don't really.
If you do far outside that box,
they whip you back in the box.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly
right, but in a human society,
so we have translated that into
only our employers want us to
think outside the box In our own
life.
People panic when they change,
and why.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a
very convoluted question and I
think there's many strings of
thread that are entangled in
that.
I think, first of all, society
teaches constant.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: A certain state of
constant creates success.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Just to kind of put
it in a small sentence.
And so people have taken that
and they've intertwined it into
their personal life.
And I think the other component
to that is most people are in a
mindset of a to-do list.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Let me check off my
to-do list and get it done, and
then I can relax and kick back
and retire.
Speaker 1: And once they get it
checked off, they don't ever go
back to it.
That's right, yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think that
trickles over into because you
have to remember, if you've got
a belief system and you've got
habits and patterns going and
definitions in place, it can
trickle over into many aspects
of your life and so it can limit
you on changing and trying
something new.
Okay, so I'm going to get the
perfect job and I'm going to
stay in it until it's time to
retire so I can get my pension.
I'm gonna set my house up and
I'm never gonna change it.
Check off that check.
Speaker 1: I mean our parents
never bought new furniture yeah
I mean, I remember having the
same old brown flowery couch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of my life
yeah, I feel like we've talked
about this before, but yeah for
sure.
And then I think it's just.
It's kind of like everything
else If you have convinced
yourself that you can't do
something, then by nature of the
mechanism of belief you can't
do something, whatever that is,
and you'll come up with any kind
of justification to surround
that, to make that belief true.
Whether it be age, my fingers
won't bend in that shape anymore
.
Speaker 1: The C-cord.
Speaker 2: I'm an old dog who
can't learn anything new because
my brain is tired and on
vacation, retirement, or my
memory is crap.
Or or even if you're living in
that state of them, esteem um,
by always worrying about what
somebody else thinks.
And what would they think if I
took away all my furniture?
What would they think if, at my
50s, I am going to play a new
instrument?
So if you're living your life
in that manner, then yeah,
that's going to stop you from
doing a lot of things, because
if you've got a story that says
society's not going to accept me
into the tribe if I don't look
a certain way, then that will
limit what you go out and you
try.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said it
right, the themis team.
The themis team is, it's a
virus, you know it spreads.
It's not something that we
should ever do, because it stops
in the big picture theme, in
the big picture of this entire
humanity that we're here to get
experiences in.
It stops the flow of evolution,
it stops the flow of experience
.
And because the big picture is,
if we never changed, we would
still be having red and white
checkered tablecloths in our
house and our husbands would
work from 9 am to 5 pm, be home
at 6 o'clock for dinner on the
table, the wife stays home and
raises the kids, and we'd all
have little suburban homes.
We would still be driving old
vehicles with our electric yeah,
don't forget the blue duck
theory.
The blue duck theory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what the
kitchen was done in blue ducks
with little blue bow ties.
Oh yeah, ducks or goose, or
goose, yeah I remember.
Or chickens In the kitchen.
Speaker 1: The chickens, oh my
God, the chickens were crazy.
My mom collected them.
Speaker 2: stinking ceramic
roosters, it's like everybody
had the home interior, gold in
the living room and the blue
duck or blue goose.
And the goose was white, mind
you.
It just had clothes on that
were blue.
Speaker 1: It had a yellow bow
tie Right.
There's people that I know now
that still has that in there,
yeah, but anyway.
So if you stop and you live off
them, esteem and don't go with
the next thing that feels good,
then you are in the big picture
thing, slowing down evolution of
mankind and the experiences
that we share with the Akashic
Records.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on a certain
level of thinking.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Once you go ahead and
graduate to the next level of
thinking, you're not really
slowing down the evolution of
mankind, because there's
parallel realities, but you
definitely are inhibiting
yourself from jumping from one
reality to the next.
So if you're looking at your
own reality, that you've created
, that you've created, if you're
not having the advancement at
all or as quickly as you want it
, more than likely it's because
you've limited yourself on what
you're willing to allow that to
look like, because of the
uncomfortableness and maybe even
something deeper, deeper like
the fear of change and moving
past all of that, getting okay
with being temporarily
uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: That's a big big
thing.
For most people it is Totally.
Speaker 2: It's a rut If you
can't jump the hurdle of
temporary uncomfortableness.
That will stop a lot of people
from trying anything, be it a
new job, be it a new fun
experience Like we just get
caught up in.
Even something simple like
going to work a different way,
Some people can't even get there
.
Speaker 1: Like drive a
different direction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like when you
leave your house, you go the
same road, the same path, day in
, day out, and so just getting
yourself to a point of saying
you know what?
Okay, I'm going to mix it up,
man.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take
highways off of my navigation.
Speaker 2: Like that pizza
commercial.
Baddies All Day where the
grandmas are singing.
Baddies all day.
I'm going to be a baddie and
I'm going to drive a different
direction to work.
And look, nothing happened to
me, so tomorrow I'm going to
drive you in a different
direction.
Speaker 1: Look at me, go, and I
think that's what it's about.
I totally agree with you.
The commitment to allowing
yourself to change catches
people off guard.
Commitment to allowing yourself
to change catches people off
guard.
Speaker 2: It even happens with,
like the clothes that I put on,
for example.
I am extremely eccentric with
my clothing.
I mean, life to me is like a
big theater play and I dress up
and people are like, oh my God,
that is so cute and so way out
there.
Speaker 1: I just wished I had
the balls to do it.
Speaker 2: I wish I could do
that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right,
put them on, take them off.
Speaker 2: Put them on, take
them off, wash them, do it again
, right.
Speaker 1: You know the I asked
one time because you know
football officiated for a good
number of years and when I was
doing a state finals game
actually when I first started
football officiating I had met
this head coach at Arlington
High School in Arlington, texas.
He had just moved down from New
Jersey after watching the movie
Friday Night Lights and he went
and told his wife hey, we're
moving to Texas, I'm going to
become a football coach.
Speaker 2: Oh my God, that went
over well.
Speaker 1: She went into a panic
mood because he was a an
attorney and she went into
straight panic mode because she
was his paralegal in their own
office.
He owned his own office and he
said he said the look on her
face.
When I told her that I was
going to go be a a high school
football coach, she, she, went
into complete mental breakdown.
Speaker 2: Existential crisis.
Speaker 1: He said two weeks
later I shut down the office, I
closed out all my caseload, I
sold my cases to one of my
friend attorneys and we loaded a
U-Haul and we drove to Texas.
I had no job.
I had nothing.
Speaker 2: Did they stay married
?
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow.
Speaker 2: Because that kind of
thing right there, depending on
where your partner's at, can
sometimes cause a complete and
total, just crumbling of the
empire.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Some people just are
not there and they will flip
their lid over.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I
would react to that.
I mean, it may be fun, but it
would be very uncomfortable for
a minute.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you
would react to that.
It would cause crisis.
I've already kind of tiptoed
around that.
You remember when I said okay,
let's quit and go live in a tent
on the beach.
Yeah, don't do tents on the
beach.
You kind of flipped your lid a
little bit.
Speaker 1: I did a little bit.
But going back to the story he
said, I said to him because we
were in the pregame.
Speaker 2: You see, guys, how he
diverted real quickly right
back, because he still is not
comfortable.
Speaker 1: The coach.
I looked him in the face.
I said so what does your wife
do?
He said very reluctantly, she
came and she kept flying back
and forth to help.
You know, she would fly back
and forth and he said we rented
this little one-bedroom
apartment until I found a job.
And then he got hired as an
assistant assistant assistant,
way deep coach at some little
small town coach.
And then he learned and I said
well, what do you attribute to
your success?
Because now he was at this time
he was in his fifth year as
head coach and only in his ninth
year of coaching.
And so he went from a 1A small
school assistant receivers coach
or something to four years
later getting a head coach job
at Arlington High School.
I said what do you attribute to
that?
And he said I just did the
right thing, because I think
outside the box.
I am not a cookie cutter.
Speaker 2: And so, just to
elaborate, he did the right
thing for him.
Speaker 1: He did the right
thing for what he felt was his
future.
Speaker 2: Within the construct
of what his beliefs, patterns,
definitions would allow him to
do, while listening to the
guidance of higher self.
Even if he didn't realize
that's what he was doing.
Speaker 1: He said when he went
home from that movie that night.
He said he had this little area
in his house.
He said he had a big home.
I mean he obviously didn't come
move to Texas broke.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But he said I sat in
my I call it my scotch bar and I
drank a little bit of scotch.
And I drank a little bit of
scotch and I sat down and wrote
down the pros and cons of moving
and doing this because I really
wanted to be that guy on the
movie.
I want to be that guy.
And he said the cons on his
list were almost four times as
long as the pros.
But when he went to bed that
night he dreamed of what he was
going to be in that moment.
That day, that when he walked
on the football field at the
state championship game, yeah
and I knew then that I was going
to do the right thing.
Yeah, is the money going to be
less?
Yes but the fulfillment behind
it is better.
It was his next happy place and
that's exactly what he said to
me.
That was going to be my next
happy place yeah and I said so
what do you?
how did you take a school that
literally the previous seven
years before you had had maximum
of three wins in a season?
How do you change that to where
you go undefeated the entire
season and you are dominating it
?
And he said I teach my kids,
they are all different, there's
nobody the same.
Don't be scared to go outside
where you're comfortable.
And so he said like I had an
inside linebacker.
That was just a beast in
practice.
But when it came to game time
he was so scared of getting hit
by the other team he would avoid
conflict on the field.
And so he said he made him the
quarterback.
And he said they would have.
He went into straight panic
mode.
He said OK, go learn the
playbook, you're going to be
quarterback next week.
And come to find out.
This kid was really good, so
good at avoiding conflict that
he had.
He set numerous Texas records
for rushing yards in a single
season by six, eight quarterback
in the position of the
quarterback in the position of
the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so he didn't want
to get hit.
I mean and that's a good example
of playing on what would be
perceived as a weakness turning
that around right and making
that actually a strength and
that's what he said that single
move taught the entire team to
get out of the box, to get out
the box and don't be scared,
because he didn't want to be hit
on the field by another player,
but he was a beast in practice,
and so he didn't want to be hit
on the field by another player,
but he was a beast in practice,
and so when he was going to get
hit as a quarterback and he
knew it was coming he would just
chug right over people.
Speaker 2: Right.
So it's a good example of
finding Okay.
So two good examples pop up
here and I want to talk through
them.
When he sat down to write his
pros and cons list, that's what
I teach you guys as far as
journaling.
Whenever you're making what you
view or define as a life
changing decision of oh my God,
what in the hell am I thinking?
What is my family going to
think?
Oh my God, sit down, write the
worst case scenario down and
whenever you can mentally, in
your thinking mind, come up with
the worst case scenario and you
have a plan for it, then it
becomes not an oh my God, it
becomes a okay.
You know what?
I can survive that.
It's doable I can do that and
you just kind of go down the
list and you've got it in
writing, tangible, where you've
actually analyzed your pros and
cons, you've actually analyzed
worst case scenario, you've put
in place that monkey mind story
yeah and then you've answered it
with the solutions of the worst
case scenario, and so then they
don't seem so big, they don't
seem so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I said when I asked
him the question.
I said so, I mean, I know
coaches teach classes, so are
you like teaching law or
something at Arlington?
Now he said, nope, I'm teaching
health.
I was like what he said?
Yeah, I know it's crazy.
He said when I got the job at
arlington, I told them I will
teach health, but because that's
that was the position head
coach, and he had to teach three
classes a week by state law.
Yeah, and he said he would
teach health three days a week.
And so he went home and crammed
basically health into his mind.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you
have to remember, as a lawyer,
there's a lot of cramming and a
lot of memorization, and so he
that was an old hat to him.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So going in there and
taking a small little high
school book and cramming that in
his head was probably the
easiest part of that whole job
Probably school book and
cramming that in his head was
probably the easiest part of
that whole job.
I can relate as a nurse because
you know when you go to nursing
school it is it's just cramming
stuff in as fast and furious as
you can go.
And so now when I want to learn
something, the thought of
cramming something in as fast
and furious as I can go is is
really the easiest part of the
task.
It's getting over the mental
hump of okay, convincing myself
that I can do this.
Speaker 1: That's what he said.
He said about three or four
chapters into cramming the
health textbook into my mind, I
realized this is high school
level.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And so he was like it
was really easy and simple, he
just went through the plan.
But he said also that another
part of it that was really hard
to overcome was Arlington high
school has a huge booster club
from former graduates.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And when the school
board hired him, with zero six a
experience, he'd come from a
one a school.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then given the
head coach job because he took
by the way, he took that one a
school and won three state
championships, seven or seven
men football.
And they hired him.
The booster club president and
vice president came to his
office and said what are you
going to do?
You don't have the experience
to do handle a-kid roster and
the playbook.
And he said I picked up the
playbook in front of the
president and I threw it in the
trash.
He said we're changing
everything here.
Everything's changing because
the same monotonous playbook
everybody knows it.
Speaker 2: And it's not working.
Speaker 1: And it's not working.
Obviously, he said so what do I
have to lose and what do you
have to lose?
Speaker 2: Good point.
Speaker 1: And he said the
Booster Club president said,
well, I'll give you one season.
He said, well, fortunately I
don't work for you.
And he said the Booster Club
contributions went to a third
and it was like crazy.
So it cut down the money to the
football team, to all the
athletics.
Speaker 2: Oh, so he had to do
it on a budget.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said he went
and bought all new football
pads for the kids out of his own
pocket.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He bought the entire
team football equipment and then
after they went 11-4 for the
season, suddenly the Booster
Club paid him back.
Oh, oh see what happens.
But he said, then it just grew.
They had winning seasons, they
got one round, playoff, two
rounds, but anyway the whole,
the overall story was, he said
he finished up this conversation
with me pregame, which we're
supposed to be talking about
football rules.
We were, I was just more
inquisitive about you know his
growth.
He said the the trick to
everything in life is realizing
that you can do anything you
want.
Speaker 2: That's right and not
being scared of it.
That's what I said in the last
podcast.
Whoever said that?
Napoleon or I don't even
remember who said whether you
can or whether you can't.
Speaker 1: It's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is
true.
Yeah, it is, if you convince
yourself that you can't, then
you won't Right.
If you convince yourself that
you can't, then you won't Right.
Speaker 1: If you can convince
yourself that you can, then you
will.
Yes, I agree.
You know the key to all of this
and what I think my biggest
takeaway in us changing our
reality and going to learn music
is after about two days hey,
I'm doing pretty freaking good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
And believing in myself, and so
my confidence is getting better
, so did you have to go through
some of that.
Speaker 1: I did mental, I did
mind work especially when it
comes to the C cord.
Oh my God that it still is a
nemesis right now, because I get
it.
But I'm just, I'm sharing with
them.
I'm sharing with them because
the C cord it, but I'm just, I'm
sharing with them.
I'm sharing with them because
the c chord, for some reason, my
hand doesn't want to.
It's a battle one that doesn't
want to move into the c position
.
Instead it wants to go to the g
position and then try to make
the c key and the c chord and
and so it's.
It's a constant battle, but
other than that I'm doing pretty
good.
Speaker 2: But so let me ask you
this if you're naturally trying
to go somewhere with it, get
out of the box and let it.
Maybe there's something to that
.
Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, explore
that.
Yeah, it's good.
So going to the.
Speaker 2: So can I talk about
the second point that was good
in that.
Yeah, the first point was him
writing his pros and cons down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I'm sorry I
interrupted.
Speaker 2: We talk about
journaling and I teach you that
writing it down and really
coming up with worst case
scenario is how to conquer that
monkey mind that keeps saying,
oh, you can't do that.
You crazy kid what.
You thinking Right, and that's
evidence of, and a good example
of, how to go about that, and
why?
Because if you can conquer that
beast and get it in writing so
that you can look at it and go
back and revisit it especially
if your pros list is much
shorter than your cons and
there's many items on there that
are, you know, taking you in a
direction of no movement, no
action then you'll be able to go
back and look at those things,
one at a time, one at a time,
and find out why.
Speaker 1: What is?
Speaker 2: the fear.
What is the component that's
keeping you from doing that Very
, very good exercise?
Because trying to mentally
remember that, especially when
you're new to diving around in
beliefs and definitions, doing
it just on a mental platform,
it's easy to kind of forget.
It's easy to get consumed by
the human world.
So writing it down so that you
can go revisit it and work on it
is a very, very good Practice
revisit it and work on it is a
very, very good second step
after coming to the place of
having that twinkle in your head
gut intuition of gosh.
I really would like to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he
said that he did the what if
list too.
Speaker 2: The second part is
getting to a place where it
doesn't have to look exactly
like you think it has to look
yeah, and so let me expound upon
that real quickly okay whenever
you have a daydream, so to
speak, or a desire or a dream
that you want to conquer, and it
is or experience and it seems
so much bigger than where you
currently can allow yourself to
go, allowing yourself to
daydream, but don't get caught
up in the.
It has to look this way that I
have described it humanly,
because if it't, then I've
failed or I'm not successful.
And then go back into your
little hermit crab shell and
give up.
Let it look and unfold the way
that it is, I guess, supposed to
is the best way to put it.
Let it unfold, naturally,
that's probably better and allow
it to look a little bit
differently, just like with you
and the C chord.
That's another good example If
you're trying to force your body
to make the C in this textbook
way and your body's trying to
show you perhaps, maybe, a
different way go with it tango
with that tingle tango with that
tingle.
Another genieism like explore it
and see if there's something to
it is your higher self trying
to show you something different,
because sometimes, by embracing
that difference, it will give
you that epiphanal click in um
boing in your head and
everything suddenly swishes in
and it all makes sense and you
have this profound understanding
of the concept and then you're
off to the races.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah it,
you know it's.
It's a really a big Testament
for me to be able to open your
mind and say you know what?
I'm over 50.
I'm going to learn a musical
instrument.
I'm over 50.
I'm going to learn to dive.
I'm over 50.
I'm you know, just go on and on
and on.
You know, just go on and on and
on.
And yeah, it's the reason why I
feel like that, that people
hang up in that is because their
lack of confidence within their
own self.
And when they're, when you're
following a spiritual world, you
don't have to have confidence
in yourself.
You have to have confidence in
the movement, have confidence in
your higher self.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think trust
in your higher self is probably
a very, very large portion of
that.
I agree, trusting that the
higher self always has your back
.
Speaker 1: Always.
Speaker 2: And always meets your
needs, always.
I agree, Even if it's financial
, even if you don't have the
money in the bank, taking that
next little baby step and that
next baby step and you wake up
one day and you're like damn I'm
doing it.
I'm doing it and I don't even
know where the money came from.
I don't even know.
I don't even know.
How did this even happen?
Speaker 1: I mean for me last
night that it kind of clicked
with me that I don't know how it
happened, but it did like I
picked up that bass guitar
literally twice or three times
and I'm already.
I already created my own riff
last night right and so I was
like oh, wow, okay that actually
sounds kind of good it does.
Speaker 2: I was just playing
around too.
Speaker 1: I was just kind of,
and it's made it yeah and it was
really.
It was a cool experience for me
.
Last night I went to bed
thinking, you know, I'm doing it
.
I'm an old dog learning new
tricks.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: And so it was very
self-fulfilling.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And really gave me
the ability to think outside the
box, like the challenge that I
gave you this morning.
What?
Was that you learned to play
Enter Sandman on the electric
cello and I'll learn it on the
bass and the electric, so we can
jam together.
Yeah, on the bass and the
electric, so we can jam together
.
Yeah, do, do, do, do, do, do,
do, do, do, do Do do, do, do, do
, do, do do, and there you have
it, ladies and gentlemen, but
for everybody out there.
Speaker 2: Don't forget to just
get out of the box man, yeah, be
somebody different today.
Even if you've got to take baby
steps, because it's all about
finding that next place of joy
and excitement.
That's the vibrational
frequency that everybody's
looking for.
Your next happy place that's.
You know, everybody says what's
my life purpose?
What's my life purpose?
What's my life purpose?
Your life purpose is finding
that frequency that we call in
verbology, that next happy place
, the next moment of excitement,
the next thing that brings that
little bit of joy, as small as
you know what.
I'm going to give myself a
break and I'm going to go watch
my favorite TV show, because
that's what brings me joy right
now.
Or, if you're, at a place where
you're like go big or go home.
You get rid of all your
furniture in the living room and
you buy a bunch of music
equipment and you turn it into a
music museum and so just
allowing yourself, at whatever
level that you're at, to tiptoe
out of that box or come out of
that box running.
Just do something.
Right is the way to success and
end up feeling unfulfilled or
empty or like your life is just
a repetitive, robotic thing.
If you're tired of it, then
start playing with it a little
bit, and there's going to be
people out there that are at
different levels.
Some can take just tiny steps,
some can take a little bit
bigger steps, some, like us,
just go balls to the wall.
Speaker 1: Our friend said I
know you guys, cause Jenny was
telling him what we're going to
do.
He said yeah, I know Y'all
never go half ass at anything,
right.
Speaker 2: Like we.
Once we decide we're doing
something, we're all in.
Speaker 1: We're all in yeah, I
mean, it don't matter how cold
the water is.
Speaker 2: It don't matter how
deep it is we just jump.
We just take our clothes off
and we chunky dunk right into
the hole of it and whatever
uncomfortableness it brings up.
But we've gotten to that place
and you, you know, we didn't
just start this two days ago,
two weeks ago, whatever Right
We've been, this has been our
daily practice for years and so
we've been living our life.
Some people are just in the
beginning steps Right, and you
take it at the pace.
Yeah, and don't judge the pace
Right, if you're only at a, you
know, we'll put it on a scale 10
being.
You know, go all in.
If you're only at a one,
embrace the fact that you're
just at a one, and I say just If
you're at a one.
Speaker 1: That's progress.
Speaker 2: Then be at a one and
take baby steps, whatever that
looks like and I said it early
in the podcast if all you can do
is come to an awareness that
you want your reality to change
and the only outside the box
thing that you can do is take a
new path to work today, do that
right wear different shoes,
something.
I was there and I was a very
methodical.
You could read a book by a
cover, and so I would do the
same path to work.
I would do the same routine.
My desk was always very, very
much um organized and everything
had a place, and it would bug
me and I would get angry if
things were.
And so what I started doing was
taking a different path to work
when I was driving.
I don't drive to the work
anymore, I don't have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can take a
different path, you can go out
the patio door and walk around
in the front door if you'd like
I do sometimes when things feel
too monotonous, yeah.
Speaker 2: And then I've just
progress, step at a time, all
the way to the point where now I
go to work and I purposely will
drag out a whole bunch of tasks
, I'll mess up my desk and I'll
just let it sit like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did that
Thursday.
Speaker 2: And I drive some of
the people in the office kind of
crazy.
I'm like listen.
Speaker 1: This is my office.
I don't care what you think.
Speaker 2: There's a method to
my madness, and then at the end
of the day I'll pick it all up
and organize it and go home.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But just checking
myself to make sure that I'm not
slipping back into that mindset
, right, because I always want
to just go outside the box.
Speaker 1: You know it reminds
me of the server that we get,
the restaurant that we go to all
the time.
When she started listening to
our podcast and she said oh my
God, I listen to your podcast.
And she said well she's.
When we told her about the
podcast, she originally said I
don't want to listen to podcasts
because they're boring.
And then, when we came, in the
next time.
She said oh my God, I listen to
your podcast.
It was so good.
Y'all's voices are just so
peaceful.
And she said I enjoyed the part
about believing that you can be
somebody different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's.
I mean that is you are.
Speaker 1: Because you know she
the previous time she had shared
hey, I come to work, you know,
basically.
Speaker 2: I just work, just
robot going through the motions.
Speaker 1: And I hope she hears
this podcast and realizes that
you can do and be and we know,
we know Everybody listen If
you're tired of your monotonous
life, the repetitiveness.
Speaker 2: Can be, do and have
anything, anything, anything,
anything in a kind, caring,
loving way.
Speaker 1: You can be anything
you want to be if you believe it
.
You can go anywhere you want to
go if you believe it.
You can execute anything you
need to learn if you believe it
right.
And so if you any of those
things don't resonate with you,
like you don't believe that you
can, you can be anybody,
anything you want to be, then
stop and say to yourself why do
I think that make the what if
list make the pros and cons lift
list.
Cause that that high school
coach said to me I made the what
if list, I went down my cons
list and what if I go?
What?
What changes this?
What if I go?
Because he said I had a huge
caseload.
He was a business attorney and
he was.
He had like 800 cases on his
load and he and he said, okay,
so this is you know if, what if
this, what if that?
And he went down the entire
list and none of those things he
was like yeah, I'm not going to
change my mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to
change my mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna
change my mind right, that's,
you know, because he was, he was
checking in, he made his list,
checking in with his emotional
guidance system he played santa
claus and checking each topic on
that list and okay if I create
the worst case story, does it
make it feel different?
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And then, secondary
to that, what would be a
possible solution, or a possible
couple of solutions, if this
worst case scenario happened
kind of takes away the power of
that monkey mind story that you
may be creating.
That is just a lie.
Yeah, that's where you come up
with the solution to the worst
case possible scenarios and you
have plans in place, then it
makes it.
It helps to make it a.
So what?
Yep, because I'm prepared,
because I'm ready for it, and
that's a way to it's.
That's a loophole, so to speak,
around that monkey mind story
of oh you know cause you're
going to justify it.
However, your beliefs and
definitions are set up because
that's how they're designed.
They're designed to always keep
themselves true.
That's correct.
And so if your little monkey
mind is telling you, oh my God,
don't do that, you're not going
to be able to pay your bills,
sit down and put that on the
list.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Okay, if I don't have
a job, how am I going to pay my
bills?
Am I willing to subcategory?
Am I willing to deliver pizzas
and let go of cable or whatever
streaming or some sort of bills
where I can like?
There's answers and solutions
to everything on that list and
if you can find those resources
and find those answers to plug
in, then it becomes a so what.
It almost becomes a situation
where you mentally have
experienced it and you found
solutions to it.
So then it's not a big deal,
right, it's the.
It takes away the unknown
factor and the oh my God, what
if this happens?
I have no plan in place.
It takes all that away, and so
then it's like, okay, well, I
have a plan for that, I have a
plan for that, and so what's the
big deal?
Speaker 1: Disclaimer Jump off
and do it.
I have a disclaimer.
What you're describing is how
to manipulate the monkey mind
when you get those negative
thoughts.
I want to make sure they
understand that.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Because your higher
self wouldn't allow the thought
to even happen if it wasn't a
positive thing for you, or
direct you in even making that
list Right, and or direct you in
even making that list right
because your higher self is
going to take care of you.
We know this, you know, we know
it, but not everybody does.
Yeah, yeah, all you're doing is
describing a way to control the
monkey mind and get it out of
the way so you can move forward
with whatever your thoughts.
Are your fleeting?
Your fleeting thought was, or
whatever that next adventure is?
Speaker 2: yeah, yeah, because
what will happen is is those
thoughts and those beliefs
they'll pop up, the ones that
are keeping you from moving in
the direction.
Speaker 1: The ones that have
always kept them from moving in
that direction, that's right,
they'll pop up.
Speaker 2: And this is just a
way to be aware of them and some
steps on how to address them
one by one, so that they fade
off into nothingness.
Yep.
Speaker 1: Who cares what your
friends think?
Speaker 2: It's like a, so what
Right?
Speaker 1: If they're truly your
friends, they'll support you.
Speaker 2: That's another thing
that needs to be said.
That's some more of that
them-esteem.
Speaker 1: Yep, that is
them-esteem.
Well, I feel good.
How do you feel?
Speaker 2: I always feel good of
them.
Speaker 1: Esteem Well, I feel
good how do you feel, I always
feel good, you do feel good, let
me feel you, you feel good.
Thanks.
Speaker 2: Thanks for my clean
bill of health man.
Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know, right,
energetic, all right.
Well, I think that's a good
place to leave this one Sure.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because
sometimes it's helpful if you
have.
I just want to talk about this
real quick.
If you are having a little bit
of a challenging spot, sometimes
it's helpful if you can have
someone help look at it with you
, who comes from a place of
non-judgment, and if you're in a
relationship and you can't
really go to that person, or
your friends and family look at
you like you have three eyes
when you try to talk about the
topic, because we've both been
there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: It's just nice to
have somebody else to kind of
bounce things off of a different
perspective.
That's what we're offering.
It's not like we're offering
the magic pill person who can go
down the rabbit hole and not
judge or criticize, and help
look at it from many different
perspectives perspectives and
angles, almost kind of like a
360 degree viewpoint and
identify some of those beliefs
that you're having trouble kind
of digging up and finding.
Speaker 1: That's the service
that we provide.
I agree In any modality energy
beliefs.
Speaker 2: Right and on any
topic.
Really yeah.
Speaker 1: Like I had one client
that I told her she was in one
of my sessions at the last expo
and she says to me okay, so I
have this boyfriend.
And she said and, and I I was
like and all I did was say it's
okay, it's okay, and she started
crying yeah your, your mind is
telling you the right thing to
do.
You don't have to say anything
else right your intuition is
spot on right and you should
follow that feeling.
And I said I know it's sexual,
sexual in nature, the problem
they were having.
And she said oh my God, you're
so right, my intuition's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because both of
us have our particular way of
of doing what we do.
And sometimes you don't even
have to talk If you come open
and receptive to really wanting
to look at whatever it is you're
wanting to look at yes we have
the ability to tap into, I think
, what's what's called the
akashic records, or find that
frequency, and so sometimes we
don't even have to conversate
directly about the topic to be
able to help you find those
answers yeah, your energy tells
a lot too.
Yeah, and so I just wanted to
kind of expound upon that, yeah
that's good If there are any
topics that anybody wants to
discuss on air?
Speaker 1: Send us a message.
Then yeah, we'll definitely
talk about them Send a message,
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that you've had lately of a new
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