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Speaker 2: Good morning
everybody.
Welcome back to the podcast,
Welcome to the Spiritual Grind
again.
Good morning.
I just want to take a minute
and thank all of our listeners,
Absolutely.
I am glad you all download us
and put up with our shenanigans.
We enjoy doing it and we're
glad that you are here to
support us.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fun
little hoedown.
Speaker 2: We're doing what with
hoes?
You didn't invite me.
Oh, you mean gardening?
Okay, we're gardening with hoes
.
Well, guys, we've been uh
dealing and talking about uh,
our relationship podcasts, and
we were talking about spiritual
sex and we were talking about uh
, we had a couple episodes on
episodes on sex, and then we're
also talking about appreciation.
Speaker 1: When you say
spiritual sex, you mean sex, but
looking at it from a spiritual
standpoint, spiritual standpoint
, correct?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what it
says in the description too.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if you
were meaning like tantra or
something like that.
Speaker 2: I'm not smart, I
can't even spell tantra.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, there
may be some listeners that
haven't been following us, that
are just tuning in.
Yeah, and just for clarity
purposes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to
clarify.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Appreciate the clarity.
Speaker 1: For others.
Speaker 2: We like clarity.
Speaker 1: We like it.
Speaker 2: So do you have a
topic today?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: You don't.
Speaker 1: No, my article that I
wrote this morning was about
near-death experiences.
Speaker 2: Oh, that would be a
great topic Actually, because I
had a topic, but that's not like
a much more fun topic.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I printed the
article off.
It was a quick little 1,200
words.
Oh, was a quick little 1,200
words.
Speaker 2: Oh, just a quick
little, 1,200 words Blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1: Well, what came up
for me?
You know, we like to watch that
ancient alien little episode
thing.
What do you call it?
Season Series?
Speaker 2: Ancient Aliens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were
talking about in the particular
episode we watched, which I
think we've seen it before.
I think we've seen them all.
They were talking about
near-death experiences and how
the scientific world is still
trying to put it off as some
sort of endorphin release that
causes the mind to do these
weird, peculiar things.
To try and explain some
people's experiences with it.
Of you know, because there's
people out there that have had
experiences where they can
actually see events going on in
an operating room or in an ER
and they're they describe it as
they're hovering over their own
body watching this technique
being done or this or the
conversations and they can.
When they come back into their
physical body, they can actually
quote people word for word and
it's turning science on its head
, basically because they don't
understand how can that happen.
But they're doing what science
does, which is to kind of push
it to the side and say it's some
sort of chemical release inside
the body and the brain that
makes absolutely no logical
inside the body and the brain
that causes absolutely no
logical sense the way that
they're trying to dismiss it.
Speaker 2: That sounds like a
bunch of hooey to me.
Speaker 1: A bunch of hogwash A
bunch of hooey gooey yuckiness.
And I, having experienced it
not once, not twice, but three
times, have a different
perspective on my interpretation
of it for myself, and it's just
for myself, on what it is and
why it happens.
Of course the metaphysicians
and the metaphysical world see
it much differently.
Of course the metaphysicians
and the metaphysical world see
it much differently and you know
, oftentimes we try and provide
information for the scientific
world to help them.
I don't know, have some more
stuff to explore?
Speaker 2: Get out of their
science book and actually figure
something out.
Speaker 1: I mean because here's
my thought on that, or just
look at it from a different
standpoint.
Speaker 2: The scientists and
doctors like to teach us that
everybody's a little bit
different.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But yet why is it
that everybody that has
near-death experiences almost
verbatim describe it exactly the
same?
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't even
go that far because there's some
people that have their
near-death experiences in the
ease as coined the phrase in the
ease, in the ease are
definitely much different.
There are some out there that
have, uh, described very shadow
like hell, hell-like experiences
that kind of scared the shit
out of them.
You know so there's varying
degrees of experiences that are
taking place out there, but
you're right, there is a very
large percentage that describe
going into the warm light and
some aspects of it that are very
similar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what I find
interesting, because I actually
studied these at one time,
because there was one time when
I was younger and I had been on
a drunken stupor bender- why am
I not surprised?
Speaker 1: I?
Speaker 2: had probably partied
for four or five days, and I sat
in my living room floor and I
wondered how, when I woke up the
next morning, did I have a
complete conversation with my
dead grandfather, and so I often
wondered if that was an NDE for
me at that time, because, who
knows, that was pretty crazy
back then for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you
read my article at any point in
your life, you'll see how I
explain that type of experience
as well, Because we all come
with the abilities to do all of
these different things.
It's just what limits us from
being able to do any one of
these special gifts is our
beliefs or fears or perception
around them, and our abilities,
our perceived ability to do it.
That's what blocks us from
being able to embrace any aspect
of it, whether it's completely
leave my body and then come back
, or whether it's talking to
dead people when I'm in a what
would you call it a coke coma
yeah, a coke coma A coke coma A
coke coma.
Whatever A party near death
party experience.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I had
a second one too, when I was 14
.
My mom had sent me home with
one of her employees and her
boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And they'd take me
home, which was like 24 miles
down the road, down the highway,
down highway 20 in oklahoma,
and they got to argue and going
down the highway and there was
three of us sitting in the front
of this chevy love pickup which
, if you don't know what a chevy
the pickup is, they're those
itty bitty old pickups, yeah,
the little bitty ones, without
an extended cab probably.
Yeah, no, it was a single cab,
yeah and I was pretty much
hanging out the passenger window
because at this time I had went
through my growth spurt and I
was pretty tall and pretty lanky
and I was hanging out the
passenger window and they got to
arguing going down the road and
got in this fight and she had
to be doing 80 or 90.
And she crossed over into the
other lane and we had a one-ton
Ford Dually head-on.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was crazy.
I was ejected from the vehicle
through the windshield and I
didn't don't remember anything
about it other than my face
going through the windshield
yeah well, and let me rephrase
that I didn't remember anything
about it and but I started
having these visions, I guess of
it yeah in this cloudy area.
Yeah, of me going through the
windshield and looking while I'm
watching myself going through
the windshield and looking back
and seeing kim hit the
windshield.
That show that was a.
The person was driving was
named kim and she hit the
windshield and cut her throat.
I mean she almost died right
there on the spot and she broke
both her legs.
It was a crazy thing.
And then her boyfriend, paul,
who was in the mental he wasn't
driving because he had been
drinking.
That's what they were fighting
about.
It was a five-speed and I seen
him disappear under the dash as
I'm watching it in the video.
And still to this day nobody
knows where that gear shift went
.
By the way, oh, no, bendover.
I don't know.
We know it disappeared, but the
truck was annihilated,
literally.
The bed of the truck was folded
over on top of the cab where it
had, just, like you know,
accordioned down, and I got
lucky with it.
But I walked Somehow.
I got up and walked in because
it happened right in front of a
convenience store.
When she crossed over in that
lane, somebody was pulling out
of the convenience store in this
big one-ton Ford Dually and
neither one of them were hurt.
It broke his left ankle.
That was it, because he had a
big.
It was a ranching area.
But what a point I was getting
to is is I got up and walked
into the convenience store and
asked them to call 9-1-1 and the
lady said oh, you're okay, son,
go ahead and sit down because I
was bleeding profusely from my
forehead yeah and, uh, I
remember sitting down and
crunching.
When I sat down and I don't
remember because my back was so
jacked in my neck at the time,
but I just remember having this
crunching sound and I had broke
my collarbone but I didn't break
it.
It wasn't a full sever, but it
was crunching when I was moving
my neck.
It was moving around.
I could hear, I could.
I think I could hear the
grinding in my ears, but nobody
else could.
I don't know, but I had visions
of this happening and I often
wondered if it didn't kill me
and I just happened to refuse to
leave at that time and came
back.
I got up, literally off the
highway.
I remember I watched myself, I
brushed off my clothes and I'm
looking and I'm bleeding
everywhere.
There's blood everywhere and I
have no idea where it's coming
from because I couldn't feel my
head.
And then next thing, I know I'm
in the hospital and so I don't
know if that vision's real, if
that really happened.
To this day I have no idea if
that really happened.
All I know is I told them to
call 911, because that was right
after 911 started and the lady
knew my parents.
I said you can call my mom too
if you would.
And they life flighted Kim and
Paul out and I don't know what
happened to me.
I don't know how I ended up in
the hospital.
Speaker 1: All I know is I ended
up in the hospital and I woke
up with my family and everybody
standing around me holding my
hand I see, it was crazy yeah, I
mean, you know you'll have to
check in with it for yourself
and because it's very much in a
fog, like people describe it in
my vision, right and so.
Yeah, you know, that's the
thing.
Like with any of the air quote
gifts, special gifts we tend to
dismiss them as something more
humanly logical, because we've
taught ourselves to do so based
on the acceptability of the
collective or the society Right,
and in doing that you actually
can kind of block yourself from
knowing what actually happened.
Knowing what actually happened,
unless it's absolutely necessary
that you know the finite
details for expansion of your
journey or for some part of the
mission that you came here for,
and it's vital that you know the
details and know for sure,
beyond a shadow of a doubt, that
it happened.
Speaker 2: I know that that
situation changed the
perspective on how I changed my
perspective on life.
Speaker 1: How so.
Speaker 2: Well, because then I
was more.
Speaker 1: Because when it
happened, you were about how old
.
Speaker 2: I was 14.
I had just turned 14.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it was in the
summer.
It was probably the.
Actually it was July 4th
weekend.
I know it was July 4th weekend
in the summer.
It was probably the.
Actually it was july 4th
weekend.
Yeah, I know what, it was july
4th weekend in the summer after
I turned 14.
Yeah and uh, it changed my
perspective because it made me
realize how, how tough the human
body is and how invincible we
really can be if we want to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it was.
I guess it just made me feel
like I could take on the world.
I guess.
Speaker 1: Even more than you
already thought you could.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you
know, what's funny about it is
that gas station is the gas
station that I actually worked
at on Saturdays, loading feet.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But in my vision I
walk in and walk in and hey,
lady, but I know all of them,
yeah, and so it's kind of weird
situation that you referred to
her as lady yeah, instead of
calling her by her name.
Right, which, uh, which it was,
dottie was her name.
Instead of saying hey, dottie,
because I used to go in there
all the time.
That was the store my mom used
to send me to to buy cigarettes
on my bicycle when I was eight
yeah and I would.
I would go in there, I would get
it when I would get sandwiches
and stuff.
Now that was earning money and
started hauling hay and her
husband is the one I hauled all
the hay for.
Yeah, and it was uh, but I, so
I knew them personally, but in
my remembering of it I didn't
call her by her name.
I, I was like hey lady, can you
call 911?
And she didn't call me by my
name, and so that's why I
wondered if it was just a vision
of what had happened.
And that really didn't happen.
You know what I mean.
It was like one of those NDEs
that you just don't really know
if it's factual or not, because
I don't know.
Speaker 1: Right.
So what could have possibly
happened is it's rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: You want a sandwich?
Speaker 2: I went to the higher
heavens and they said, no,
you're not welcome yet, you got
to go back.
Speaker 1: No, what could have
happened is that you definitely
had an NDE, definitely had an
NDE.
You're laying in the road and
instead of you presenting
yourself as you creating such an
alarm or, oh my god, panic
state to Dottie you may have in
a have in a spiritual version of
you went.
I cloaked yourself in a
different suit, so to speak, so
that she didn't see you as
little jimmy yeah, she saw you
as somebody else so that she
could keep her tactful mind
about her and call 911 and get
help, Whereas if you had gone in
as the little Jimmy she knew
bleeding near death, it may have
put her in a state of utter
panic where she wasn't able to
do anything for you to help
because her system completely
shut down.
Speaker 2: You know, later on I
asked her if she remembered me
coming in and telling her to
call 911.
Do anything for you to help
because her system completely
shut down.
You know, later on I asked her
if she remembered me coming in
and telling her to call 911.
No-transcript, so I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't really know,
but that was later on, right,
and so I mean, like I said that
could have been, what happened
is, is you presented as a, as an
, as an individual that she
didn't recognize, to save the
panic, so that she could keep
herself together and not have
that emotional attachment to
somebody she recognized in that
state and be able to call 911
and get help there as quick as
possible?
It's a spiritual orchestration.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be,
and you know, I don't know.
To this day I still don't know
what transpired.
I do remember Kim was jacked up
man, she had a brain bleed, she
had.
They had to do surgery, open,
open cranial surgery on her.
And paul I don't know, that guy
was just too drunk.
I think he was just too drunk
to get hurt.
All he did was have a cut, two
cuts on his wrist from hitting
the windshield or something, and
we still don't know where the
gear shift went.
But that whole experience, we
were lucky because the fire
department was like right there,
a quarter mile from the fire
department, and so they were
there pretty quickly.
But you know, it was a lucky
situation and I often wondered
if that wasn't a near-death
experience for me.
Speaker 1: Possibly you just
have to check in and see how it
feels for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And sometimes you'll
get the information and
sometimes you won't.
If it's a necessary piece of
information that you need to
continue with your mission, then
you'll be given the information
.
Yeah, just a matter of asking
for clarity and then allowing
the information to come in.
Speaker 2: But that's with any
topic, really yeah, a lot of
people don't believe in them.
I've had this conversation with
.
Well, of course I, but that's
with any topic.
Really, yeah, a lot of people
don't believe in them.
I've had this conversation with
well, of course I mean.
Speaker 1: That's why the
different perspectives are out.
There is that they're.
They're still toggling around
with what happens to the human
consciousness, or the essence,
right?
Does it live only in the brain
or does it go somewhere else?
And a lot of people cannot wrap
their mind around or
conceptualize the fact that
there's this consciousness that
can live out there in the
quantum etheric world without it
being attached to a physical
thing.
They just can't wrap their mind
around it, especially highly
scientific brains.
They tend to have trouble with
that kinds of concepts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know which is
what the metaphysicians do.
Speaker 1: They challenge the
physicians.
There's a place for us all.
Speaker 2: Oh, I agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Totally agree.
You know, I had a conversation
one time with one of our former
customers at our previous
employment.
He had had a brain bleed.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And when I told him I
know you're going to the
hospital because he wasn't
making any sense, he was laying
on the floor not making any
sense, right?
And then after they found out
and they fixed it and he came
back and he told me he's like I
was sitting there, uh, dancing
with my wife oh yeah and so I
was like huh, what do you mean
dancing?
he's like I don't know.
I was when, when I came, when I
came to and realized I was in
the back of the ambulance, I was
dancing with my wife and she
had died.
Speaker 1: I'm a part of that,
yeah she had died what?
Speaker 2: a year or so before
that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it was a pretty.
I was like so was that a
near-death experience?
And of course he's.
You know he's staunch.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: He was like oh no, I
don't think so, if God wanted to
take me.
Speaker 1: So by definition,
near-death experience is defined
as having no viable signs of
life in the physical body,
meaning no heartbeat, no
respirations and usually no
brain activity.
Yeah, sometimes they'll let the
brain activity part of it slide
, because the brain activity can
sometimes still exist even
after the heart and the
respirations have stopped.
Speaker 2: Well, they just
proved that scientifically.
Speaker 1: We just seen that
other people are explaining.
Speaker 2: Well, is there a time
limit on it?
Speaker 1: Because it could have
happened is so that humans
don't have to experience the
full embodiment of the physical
body, hurting or the fear of
losing consciousness, or pain or
some of that there is a point
in time where your higher self
will remove you from the
physical body so that you don't
have to feel those things or
have fear.
But your heart still beats and
your lungs still breathe
subconscious compartmentalize I
guess maybe well something like
that whatever, I don't even know
what that means.
What, what does that mean?
I don't know, I'm just making
some fancy word up, make me
sound, and so that's much
different than a true near-death
experience where you have no
actual vital signs, so to speak,
there is no heart rhythm on the
monitor, there is no
respirations taking place Like
you literally have, like you see
on TV this line that goes
across the screen.
So what he was having was he was
taken to a temporary holding
place with his consciousness,
just so that he didn't and was
waiting and holding so that he
didn't have to necessarily lay
there and know that things are
not right.
This is not right.
Speaker 2: let me get anxious,
let me get scared oh, what
you're saying yeah, I get it um
because you're saying that his
body created that to
compartmentalize the fear of
dying?
Speaker 1: created the vision or
higher self or higher self,
yeah right, took his
consciousness to or showed him
I'm smelling what you're sipping
in come and let's sit in this
healing place and here dance
with your wife while you wait,
and would you entertain her
because I'm really trying to
take care of her.
Speaker 2: Would you like a
martini right?
Speaker 1: um, and so there are
holding places, uh, the realm of
multidimensional, multiverse,
situations, okay, which are
different than near order.
What?
Speaker 2: was that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Near death experiences.
I don't know what just happened
, but that was my tongue got all
twisted up and tripped over the
words NDE.
Nde those are two separate
situations yeah so that's what
was happening with him and the
rabbit hole situation in that
was by design.
You were supposed to find him
and call 911 and take him
through the gateway to come back
.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wouldn't
respond to me when I found him.
Speaker 1: And that was all
structured.
He was just laying on was just
a moment for him to get to go
back and see his wife yeah and
have a dancing experience.
And sometimes we have to move
away from the physical body to
be able to do that, especially
if we have very strong, staunch
beliefs that won't let us do
that in our dream state yeah, I
get it, um, and so there have to
be, sometimes, situations that
remove us from the monkey mind
and the belief system, so that
we can go into a much deeper
kind of hypnotic brain state or
mind state, uh, to be able to
take us to that realistic
feeling place of interacting
with the non-physical.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know he
was his staunch religious views.
Would I have a near-death
experience, or what?
Speaker 1: And he was like, oh
no, if God wouldn't take me,
he'd take me now, right or what,
and he was like, oh no, if god
wouldn't take me, he'd take me
now, right, and those beliefs
would not have ever let him, um,
have that deep kind of visceral
experience of dancing with his
wife, like he had whenever he
had this brain bleed, yeah, and
so sometimes, in order to create
that, we have to put them in.
We I'm sorry, I'm channeling
yeah they're telling me that
they have to put people humans
in situations where they release
their humanness completely in
order to give them the kind of
experience that they long for
you know so with him.
He could have been very well
sitting around wishing that he
had one more opportunity to just
dance with his wife, because
that was his sweet, sweet memory
yeah and he, you know, maybe
that was what he was longing for
.
And in order to give him that
opportunity to experience that,
because of his very staunch and
very rigid beliefs around death
and dying or meditation or
whatever, they couldn't raise
his frequency high enough to get
him detached enough through
dream state to be able to take
him in and really let him feel
like he was dancing with his
wife, instead of it being a
dream, yeah and so they put him
in a situation where they it had
to be a situation that he could
make logical sense out of yeah
when he came back around to his
physical body I get it and so
for him, the logical part of
that was oh, I had a brain bleed
, and so I am part of the
scientific world that, if it, if
I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go.
So what happened is is that my
mind took me to a place that was
more pleasant while I was
injured.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then I came back
around when I was fixed by
modern medicine.
He can digest that a lot easier
than he could where you were
trying to take him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.
Yeah, so that's kind of how
that works.
So you're going to tell us
about yours?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course,
sure, okay, so my journey.
It looks like this.
This is my journey.
So as a child, I can remember
going to sleep at night and
having what some people would
call astral.
Speaker 2: Projecting.
Speaker 1: Projecting kind of
like scenarios where I would lay
in bed and I could literally
feel myself coming out of my
physical body, and there was a
part of me that found it curious
.
But then there was another part
of me that is scared, and so I
created a fear around it.
It happened several times, but
it scared me because as a child
I didn't really understand it,
and the fear then made it stop
happening okay but at that time
it was just an introductory
level of getting me used to
being detached from the physical
body.
Okay, I didn't know that at the
time.
Speaker 2: Fair enough.
Speaker 1: So then, for me, I
had the procedure where I ended
up with a pacemaker.
Oh and um, so by accident, they
um ablated part of my heart.
Yeah, and weren't expecting to.
Speaker 2: I ended up with a
pacemaker.
Long story short, can you?
Imagine what the surgery was
like right when the doctor was
like, all the nurses come
running and he's like he was
probably cussing oh, I'm sure um
, my experience was not the
traditional.
Speaker 1: Oh, I went into the
warm light kind of thing in that
particular one, but that's not
what it was for.
It was to.
It was training wheels for me.
I do have a vague recollection
of remembering that, of hearing
them talk, and one of the
statements that was made is oh
shit, she has no pulse oh shit I
do remember hearing that yeah
um, at the time that that all
went on in my life, I didn't
think much of it.
That wasn't the focus Right.
The focus was WTF?
I go in for a procedure.
I'm supposed to be in and out
same day.
I go home all as well.
I'm still there at seven
o'clock at night when I come out
of anesthesia 14 hours later
and I have all these wires
attached to me and I'm like, why
the F?
am I still here?
And why do I look like I am
half robot, like what is going
on, and my family's all gathered
around me giving me that oh my
God, we thought you were dead,
look.
And so I'm just trying to
figure out why am I not at home
and why am I still here.
Like very bewildered.
Yeah, oh yeah Not kind of
understanding, because the way
the procedure was explained to
me is I'd go in at seven, they
would do a little exploration
and I would be out and having
lunch, quite possibly at home by
noon.
And having lunch quite possibly
at home by noon.
Yeah, and so I didn't,
necessarily I didn't do the
whole.
Call your family, call your
mother, call your father, please
be here while I go in for this
procedure Long term, like what
do I do with my kids long term.
Speaker 2: So the neighbor was
literally watching them until I
got home and, like I made,
temporary plans for life
probably not the best idea well,
I I the way they'd explain to
me and so and fortunately you
can make the little screech
noise oh
Speaker 1: it went in a
different direction.
Um, but for me that particular
episode wasn't about the near
death for me, so I didn't give
it a lot of focus.
I kind of just was like, okay,
whatever, I'm here now, let's
make the best of this situation.
But what it was was.
It was like that kindergarten
first grade, first exposure to
okay, you left your body, you
came back.
It was easy, it was simple.
There was no pain.
You were able to find your body
pop back in, no big deal.
Mama, mama, I'm coming home so
then, the second time it
happened, I had my breasts
lifted.
After years of breastfeeding,
they got a little dreamy.
Speaker 2: Well, I lift them all
, the time.
Speaker 1: It is nice when you
hold them, because they're heavy
.
Surgery was five or six, I don't
know eight hours long.
I don't even know what happened
is.
I was wheeled into the recovery
room and the anesthesiologist I
guess felt it necessary to give
me a little extra pain medicine
so that when I started to come
fully around, I guess felt it
necessary to give me a little
extra pain medicine so that when
I started to come fully around
I wasn't in pain.
Well, as you well know, I don't
take a lot of medications, so I
am highly, highly receptive to
pain medication.
I literally take a 200
milligram Advil when I'm having
pain and I cut it in fourths.
That's how receptive my body is
to pain medicine.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So she gave me a
large dose of it and I decided
that I was going to stop
breathing.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's nice.
Speaker 1: When I came into the
recovery room.
Speaker 2: Just want to make
sure that their code kit was all
set up.
Speaker 1: I guess so.
Get ready, because we're going
to test your.
Speaker 2: We're going to test
your abilities today.
Speaker 1: We're going to test
your abilities today, and so I
decided to stop breathing.
Speaker 2: And then Then all you
hear is code blue code blue
code blue.
No Code blue code blue.
Then all you hear is code blue
code blue code blue no.
Speaker 1: Code blue code blue
Well, so the way it was
described to me, because, you
have to remember, I had this
procedure done in the hospital
where I work.
Oh, so you knew everybody too,
and so all these people knew me,
and so they shared the
aftermath of it with me.
I didn't get treated like an
average patient outside of here
Like oh my God, jenny, you died.
Don't ever, effing, do that to
us again, you BIDCH.
If you're going to do that, you
have to have express written
permission.
Apparently there was not anyone
really standing there, and I
didn't breathe long enough to
where the heart actually stopped
as well.
Speaker 2: For a minute, so they
had nobody observing you they
didn't, I didn't do anything
about it.
Speaker 1: I'm just like okay,
as your shift leader next time I
come in to have a procedure I
am going to kick your ass if you
do that you better be standing
by and they're like okay, well,
if you decide to stop breathing
and you decide to stop heart
beating, uh, we're gonna kick
your ass right back Again.
For me, it wasn't about going
into the light and having that
whole drawn out experience.
Speaker 2: This was still
training wheels for me.
Speaker 1: Let us show you again
.
We can pop out and you can pop
back in very easy and find that
frequency.
So I do remember hearing them
conversate over my body.
I remember seeing different
individuals, like I'm at the
foot of the bed outside of my
body and I see the different
nurses and the anesthesiologist.
They brought the crash cart
over and then that's all of my
remembrance of it.
But again, it later on was
given to me in the complete
download of the purpose of it,
was given to me in the complete
download of the purpose of it,
which was it wasn't meant for me
to have this full-on exit
experience.
It was just training wheels to
work me through the fear that
had been created as a child.
Piece by piece, layer by layer.
Then we fast forward to my
third experience which was the
big kahuna.
I call it the big kahuna.
Yeah, that you were involved in
.
Yeah, yeah that was not fun,
and my perception of the
experience and your perception
of the experience were two
entirely different experiences.
Yes, I did not enjoy this at
all Right, so we had been in the
hot tub.
Speaker 2: No, first we had been
out drinking at the bar all
night and we were pretty lit
yeah.
Speaker 1: So we had been
drinking.
We decided to get in the hot
tub.
Speaker 2: And smoke a
left-handed cigarette.
We decided to get in the hot
tub and smoke a left-handed
cigarette.
Speaker 1: We decided to get out
.
You were like, oh, I'm ready to
get out, I think right, yes,
and you asked me yeah, I said
are you ready to get out?
Speaker 2: I was getting hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I said,
yeah, I'm ready to get out.
And that's literally the last
thing I remember.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I stood up and
I got out of the hot tub.
I turned around to hand her her
towel and she's in the water.
Speaker 1: I'm like what the
Like?
Face down, Face down in the
water.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were like
under the water.
I was like, and so I was like
what are you doing?
And you didn't say anything.
It didn't even move, your eyes
weren't even open, actually.
But when I realized, your eyes
weren't open because it was dark
.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
And so I was like yeah, because
this was like at what?
Like 1 or 2 o'clock in the
morning.
Yeah, it was probably 2 o'clock
in the morning.
Speaker 2: And we were both butt
naked.
Right and keep in mind we're in
my parents' hot tub at my
parents' house, you don't get in
the hot tub.
I turn back around and she's in
the water underneath the water
and all I see is the bloop,
bloop of the air pop up, I think
because I had turned the hot
tub off.
Speaker 1: Right, so the water
was still.
Is what you're saying?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the water was
still.
Speaker 1: Okay.
So when you saw the bubbles, I
was like what the fuck?
Is that what dinged you to
something's wrong?
Yeah, and Dinged you to
something's wrong yeah, and so I
just reached down and grabbed
you and turned you over, bring
your head out of the thing.
Speaker 2: And you're not
breathing, your eyes are closed
and I'm like what the heck?
And so I just lift you up and
drag you out of the hot tub and
set you on the ground, butt
naked.
You have no pulse, you're not
responding and I finally was
like listen, lady, you need to
wake your ass up, or I'm calling
911.
Speaker 1: Wet, slimy body that
is dead weight.
Speaker 2: I was hollering at my
mom and dad.
They were all the way across
the other side of the house
because I didn't have no cell
phone or nothing out there.
We were both naked.
Speaker 1: And they probably had
their hearing aids out with
their headsets on.
Yep yep Watching TV.
Speaker 2: Because there we were
both naked and they probably
had their hearing aids out, with
their headsets on.
Yep, yep, watch the tv, because
that's how they sleep.
They sleep with their headsets
on right.
And so finally, I went.
I was like I covered you up
with a towel.
I went to grab my cell phone
and I came back and I'm on, I'm
literally dialing 9-1-1.
I'm like I'm dialing 9-1-1, you
better wake up and I get the
one dialed and you start waking
up.
And I was like, because you had
no poles, I checked for your
poles.
There was no poles, you were
not breathing and you were not
responding.
I even broke your leg or
cracked your leg and pulling you
out of the hot tub.
Speaker 1: So on my side of
things, here's what it looked
like.
On my side of things, I have
the bright light affair happen,
like I just was surrounded by
this bright light, but not like
as if you're looking in the sun
and it's uncomfortable bright
light.
It's a soft, warm, engulfing
light, like it encapsulates.
Speaker 2: It wasn't very warm
to me.
Speaker 1: And in that light,
what I found was that was
presented to me were two light
entities representing themselves
as a mother figure, father
figure, yeah, and it was like a
family reunion.
It was like, oh, welcome home.
But it was all.
Communication was all
telepathic.
There was no verbal mouth
communication, it was all
telepathic.
But the conversation was like,
oh, we're so glad to see you and
welcome home.
And I was like, oh, I'm so glad
to be here.
It feels so warm and inviting
and so much love and peace and
it's so good to be home.
That was such a hard journey and
it was just like a family
reunion of I came home from
college or whatever right, and
wasn't for me it felt like I was
there for a minute oh yeah, you
was there for a minute um, no,
no, no quick, a quick minute,
yeah it didn't feel like it was
as long as it was on your side
of the oh, it felt like forever
on my side of the thing.
Speaker 2: No, I'm like I feel.
Speaker 1: I feel like in a snap
, like I wasn't there long
enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know,
I feel like I'd only been there
like seconds.
Next thing, you know, they're
telling me okay, it's time to go
back.
And I'm like, no, I don't want
to go back, I am staying here.
And they're like no, you can't.
You have more things that you
have to do.
You've got to go back.
And I'm like, no, I'm not going
back.
I like it here, I like the way
it feels and it's yucky back
there.
I'm not going back.
And they're like, yep, you're
going back, love you.
Speaker 2: And then I remember,
like opening my eyes barely, I
was right in the process, about
to slap the crap out of you.
Speaker 1: But the biggest thing
I remember is you were
literally yelling to the top of
your lungs, right in my ear, and
I remember saying, oh my God,
why are you yelling at me?
Yeah, because, bitch, you
weren't breathing and you didn't
have a pulse.
I was like okay, I'm fine, Stop
yelling.
You're being so loud and I was
scolding you for being loud
because I was disoriented and
didn't know even.
Speaker 2: What did the last
three and a half minutes have?
Transpired Like I went and
visited family?
Speaker 1: Where were you at?
Why didn't you go with me?
And it was like an in and out
thing.
It was very, very quick on my
side of things from you telling
the story.
Speaker 2: You said it was much
longer than just a minute, three
and a half minutes at least
from my perspective, it was like
seconds all I know is you said
I didn't want to come back.
Speaker 1: What?
But the experience is
absolutely indescribable.
Until you go to that place and
can experience it, there are no
human words to really describe
the feeling of just the
unconditional, warm, welcoming
love, of just being in the
presence of that natural state
of being.
And I'm telling you, if we
could find that every day, all
day long, this world would be a
much different place.
Oh yeah, for sure, 100%.
Speaker 2: So I think, in a
quick way if we can, the point
of this podcast is to make sure
y'all should watch that episode
on ancient aliens, because it
was very eye-opening for me that
they're actually studying it
now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And that there is.
You know, according to the
science that I've seen on the
show, which I haven't done any
research on, I didn't plan on
doing that, but they are saying
that they can prove now that
consciousness goes and moves on
after death.
Yeah, but I haven't looked at
that up yet, but that's what
they're claiming.
And so if you or anybody else
that you know guys have had an
air death experience, and hey,
share this podcast with them,
tag them in it, put the story in
the comments.
We'd love to hear it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: And you know, if it's
a good enough story, maybe
we'll guest in about you on and
you can.
You can tell everybody on the
air.
That would be kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be
kind of cool.
Yeah, that would um, it would
be interesting to hear each
individual person's experience
yeah of their nde for sure yep,
all right, don't forget guys.
Speaker 2: Hey, we are doing the
power of thought, the power of
positive thought workshop at the
holistic house in hollyhill,
florida, starting on october 3rd
.
It is a 16-week workshop.
It goes into January of next
year and it's $25 a week.
Or you can buy the whole course
for $348, and you can get that
on Eventbrite, or you can call
Holistic House in Holly Hill,
florida and make reservations
there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, real quick.
I was noticing on Eventbrite
it's got the pricing a little
wonky and hard to understand
yeah.
Speaker 2: So you'll have to
look into that.
The tickets are $25 and then
Eventbrite charges their fee and
then apparently there's taxes
for event scheduling.
Speaker 1: Oh, I see.
So if you go through them, yeah
, it's going to be a little bit
more if you go through.
Speaker 2: Eventbrite, but you
can pay for the whole course all
at once right there.
You can do that at the Holistic
House as well, and the Salty
Tarot store is open.
Yeah, go shopping Go, get you
some spiritual grind garb.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Or some Salty Tarot
garb.
The app is underway.
We have POC ready and working
on some other stuff, so it's
going well.
I am going to put up the
holiday pack.
Try to get that done tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Of the coffee For the
coffee.
Speaker 2: Yay, get that on the
store so you can buy it there.
The Spiritual Grind Coffee Talk
set.
It's going to have a pound of
our coffee and two coffee mugs,
let's say the Spiritual Grind,
with our pretty little faces on
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Speaker 2: Hey, you all have an
awesome day.
Speaker 1: Love you.
We'll see you next time.