Embracing Contrast: Redefining Masculinity and Trusting Intuition

Speaker 2: Thank you. Speaker 1: Good morning everybody. Welcome back to the podcast. Today we are going to celebrate a couple things and talk about a few things. Good morning, dr Jenny. Speaker 2: Celebration. Speaker 1: Celebrate good times. Come on, Good morning. So today, you know, I've been debating on a couple of topics and I was kind of just going to let spirit guide me through it. And then when I walked in here I seen your note Because I was kind of looking, this kind of falls right into one of my subjects the invalidating contrast that you brought up in the last podcast. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: And it kind of falls right into one of my topics that I've been working on myself, because I'm going through a little bit of some personal stuff, personal growth, things that I'm working on. Evolution baby, yeah, and there can be times in it that the contrast within everything can make you feel very uneasy within everything can make you feel very uneasy. And you know you brought up the invalidating contrast last time and making sure that when we are going through some belief stuff and some clearing things out of the way, that we take the moment to make sure we validate what we're doing and invalidate the stuff that we're not supposed to validate. Speaker 2: That's not really how I meant it. Well, I get it. I'll follow you for a minute. Speaker 1: It kind of fell right into my subject because we, as humans here's my take on this, and I know you have a little bit of a different take on it my take on this is we come here as energy, we take on this meat suit, as Dr Jenny likes to call it. We energize this meat suit kind of like what was the red robot dude, the one you think is so sexy? Speaker 2: Iron. Speaker 1: Man, iron man, you know, that little energy thing in the middle of it activates this suit and he becomes a robot and he can fly around and shoot lasers out of his hands and all sorts of things. Well, we're kind of the same way. That's kind of my take on it is we come here as energy, we energize this meat suit and we live a human experience and, as we call it, the veil is there placed over. So we don't bring the negative experiences in or whatever, and into this life, because I believe that we don't just die and go to heaven. I believe we actually reincarnate into other things. Until our journey here is done, and when we go through life as human experiences that we have signed up for, either contractually or, you know, we've been taught beliefs, that creates an environment. When we go through things, it feels like it's contrasting, it's bumping up against those beliefs. You have to stop and look at it or at least I do and try to validate what this is bumping up against and figure out why it's bumping up against it. Crickets. Speaker 2: Okay, that's a pretty meaty sandwich. Where do you want to start? Well, wherever you want to start, whatever you're led to do , Wow, I don't think I can cram all that in like an hour. Speaker 1: S-hole. You can't cram it into an S-hole. That's what we were just talking about this morning. Speaker 2: We started our pre-game podcast getting his S-hole ready so that he wouldn't have heavy S's. Speaker 1: I have a tendency to speak lazy, and so my S's get a little crazy on the Ooh, you made a rhyme, Didn't even know it. Speaker 2: poet. Speaker 1: I didn't know it. Validating and invalidating certain things of our journey here on Earth is a crucial part of our existence. I believe in feeding the Akashic records with the experiences that we're supposed to do. Speaker 2: Well, I think the first point of clarification is the word validation and invalidation. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: The trick to all of it is is that you don't want to invalidate anything. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: You want to validate everything, including the contrast, because the contrast has a purpose in and of itself that is very valuable, okay. And resistance is kind of like a contracted not letting things flow. Okay, so you have to, if you want give it all value. Okay. And contrast has been defined kind of as a collective, as something that we don't necessarily enjoy experiencing. Therefore, it motivates us to do some work on changing it into something that is more pleasurable. Yes to look at that or go about that is understanding that the contrast can be just as pleasurable if you toggle your perspective about it. Speaker 1: As in like realizing that it's part of your journey, right. Speaker 2: Realizing that it is a valid and valuable component of the whole mechanism of reality, of the whole mechanism of reality. You've got to have the contrast to help you better decide what it is that you want. If you don't know what white is , then you won't know what black is. If you don't know what nothingness is, then you won't know what something is Okay. So, even if you're experiencing in your reality a situation that seems very, very uncomfortable or very painful, realizing that it's serving a purpose and becoming easy about that, instead of focusing so deeply on getting rid of the uncomfortableness, coming to a place inside of you that says okay. This uncomfortableness whether it be physical pain, mental pain , reality pain of being in a situation or circumstance that's awful as you view it, realizing that its purpose is to catapult you to the next level in the game of evolution will help you become easier about the contrast , More awakened and less restricted or less contracted, those can be tough it is, it is a challenge. Speaker 1: It can be a challenge . For me anyway. Maybe not for other people, but for me it can be a challenge at times, because here's what's bringing it into my reality and, as you know, I am currently writing a book and this book is about the evolution of a man and it's about the times of, you know, when I was younger, we were taught that, you know, like I remember I'll bring into play there was a young man that lived down the street from me, actually, down the dirt road, out in the middle of nowhere, in the trailer park, and I say down the street, like it was some kind of suburb, and he was just not. You know, he just wasn't one of those boys boys, you know, he didn't fish, didn't hunt, didn't ride his bicycle around. He got made fun of constantly. They called him a sissy boy and he got picked on and I finally stood up for him in junior high. The part of that is the contrast that I'm facing in this experience is I've been getting these downloads on what needs to be in this book and I've been trying to get that all worked out in my head and there's some of this stuff that I'm being led to write about that I have zero experience with, because I was taught as a young child by society because back in the day, you know, we not only had, you know, prejudice around, but we also had homophobia. We had what was the Jewish thing , the Holocaust that was brought up, you know, all these things where people judged each other constantly. And in this book I'm writing about the evolution of a man is about the contrast that you experience within a man's masculinity as we mature in age and so in you know you're talking about invalidating contrast is where the contrast within things that is bumping up against beliefs for me, within this, you know, uh well, I'd say not really beliefs, but old things that are popping up and the contrast I'm trying not to invalidate it, cause I'm trying to translate into AKA beliefs right, that's correct. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about Bumping up against the beliefs and that the old, some of those old beliefs that popped up because how we were taught makes me question what I'm writing, because I'm not experiencing some of it and so it's kind of a challenge and that's where my mind's been, like you were asking this morning what I was thinking about, and that's really where my mind's been, because I have three or four subjects in this book, or three chapters in this book that I am writing, that it talks about things I have never experienced. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: And so I just have to trust in spirit to give me the proper downloads and all of it and remove the beliefs out of the way and not invalidate that contrast. Speaker 2: Well, I mean, yeah, you got to get rid of the definitions of what the content of the book must be and realize that the writing of this book is a collective work of not just you, your human mind, but your higher self mind, your whole book writing council, so to speak, energetically and on a frequency level, with higher self. There's going to be several guides that come in and give their input, and so having a definition that the book is only supposed to be about your personal experiences will limit what the book's capability is, because you're writing the book not just for yourself, but for others who, even on an unconscious level, are ready for that information, and so it doesn't have to be necessarily something that you've personally experienced. It just has to be where you're in a receiving mode to accept the information for those that don't have a mouth to verbalize, because they're wanting to add to the knowledge as well, on a higher frequency platform, on a higher frequency platform, and so you're basically, in a manner of speaking, you're going to write about your personal experiences, but then you're also going to be a channel of information coming from other entities at higher frequencies that are going to provide you with additional information, because the collective has out there, put in place that it's ready for additional information , upgrades, downloads, information, and all of that's going to be imbued, imbowed, imbued, impregnated input into the book. Speaker 1: That's a lot of explanation there. Speaker 2: her description Well, I couldn't decide which word to use, so I said spit them all out. Speaker 1: And so like here, I totally agree with you. The only thing I don't want to mislead about is it's not that it's resistance for me to write the book. It's not resistance. I'm still writing what I get. Of course, but what I? What the? The contrast I have is some of these topics are in controversial subjects that I really know nothing about, other than when I get in download. Speaker 2: And what I'm trying to get you to see is is that your human mind doesn't have to know anything about them, because there are members of your spiritual council that are going to give you that information. Speaker 1: I agree with you. Speaker 2: And so you don't have to know anything about them. Speaker 1: But my human still wants to be a butthead sometimes . Speaker 2: Well, spank that monkey baby. Speaker 1: Hey, we had that podcast. Speaker 2: Yes, we did. Speaker 1: So, within this genre of topics that we have, is this bump up against belief thing that man, you're human, says oh come on, you don't need to write that, or you know you don't need to work on that and it's a really. It can be a tough road sometimes to push through it. Spiritually, when you're human is fighting it, you know, giving you that resistance that you speak of because it's human, resistance is human. Speaker 2: I know that so what do you do about it? Speaker 1: I just keep pushing what are the steps? I don't really have any steps. That's what I've been working on. I haven't because I haven't. I have never experienced it on this level. I guess that's where I'm trying to get. You know, I'm I've not really been a channeler of anything that I ever know, and that's it's just part of my energetic readings that I do, maybe a form of channeling, but the I don't know that I've ever could identify myself as a channeler and so for me to do it. I'm facing this human resistance in this and I just keep pushing through it. And you just asked me for my steps and I really don't have none. Cue, dr Jenny. Speaker 2: Well, everyone channels, they just don't realize, they do. Speaker 1: They don't realize that. Speaker 2: that's what the verbiage, the English language word, is for what we do. Whenever you're sitting in some sort of meditation, whatever that looks like, if you're just sitting peacefully, if you've actually got your arms and legs folded, singing bowls, whatever your meditation process looks like, you're channeling information from your higher self. When you listen to your intuitive guidance, that's a form of channeling information from your intuitive self. Channeling, by definition of Dr Jenny not necessarily the Webster Dictionary is opening yourself completely and being receptive to receive information in many different formats from many different places. So it doesn't have to be verbal commentary. It can be visions, it can be, uh, telepathic information, it could be videos. Speaker 1: Let me touch on that a minute, okay, because all of my life I mean, you've heard me say this before is I have had these ability to do things that I've never been taught. Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 1: And I've always identified that as a way of that , I just I'm just you know, uh, so to speak, tapping into the Akashic records and get showed and told how to do it, like I mean, it's happened all of my life. There's stuff I've never been taught, that I can just do and I still don't know to this day. Well, I do know now, but back then, when I was doing it, first of all, I didn't identify it because I never stopped when I was younger and say how the heck did I know to do that? Because you're just going through life then, and now I've gotten older, you start identifying like wow, I was doing things that I had zero clue about. I really didn't have any idea. Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a form of channeling. You're opening yourself completely and totally, without any resistance, to the information that's coming in, with no blocks, no resistance, no expectation of the outcome, no insistence on what it has to look like, and so the information comes in very clearly. It's easier to do it as a child because we've not been taught any kind of beliefs or definitions yet, and then when we start to go to school we get taught kind of this as an example Information is accurate and correct if it comes out of a book, from a teacher, so any other information that comes from a different place, or a parental person. And so then if information comes from a different place that's not from those necessarily two main places, then it's an unusual place and we subconsciously get taught that it's invalid information and we can't trust it. Or it's not accurate that it's invalid information and we can't trust it, or it's not accurate. As we grow up, then what happens ? We get into our adulthood, we decide we're going to live our own life. I'm going to sleep late and I'm going to go to bed late and I'm going to party and do what I want to haul with my parents. I never partied. Whatever I want to haul with my parents. I never partied Whatever, and that rebellious state that we go through is a large permission slip to dump a bunch of junk and let the question come in of wait a minute, I was doing this back and you kind of go through a remembrance Wait a minute. I was doing this back when I was a go through a remembrance, wait a minute. I was doing this back when I was a kid, before I had really any definitions or beliefs in the way, and so I know I have the ability to do it. I just don't know what to call it or where the information's coming from. But it's okay, nothing bad happened from it, it's good stuff, and so I'm going to revalidate this information and be curious about where it's coming from. It's part of the awakening state. Speaker 1: Okay. But that still is a form of channeling and my you know the part of it for me that when I'm going through this research and getting these downloads for this book and I'm you know I'm because that's really what I'm doing, I'm kind of researching things, I'm bouncing off beliefs and and going through the steps is I didn't really think about it. What you just said until you just said it is. Perhaps that is where that's come, because I could. I trust physical actions of me going and doing something I don't know how to do, because I'm going to know how to do it. I don't know how, I just know how and trusting the fact that the information that I'm getting , that I'm translating into this book. That's a different world for me . Speaker 2: But it's not really when you go build something. So we I'll give you a little snippet of our life. I come up with some harebrained idea or some design project we're redoing our patio and he constructs it, he figures out how to make it so on the construction side of things and we do that in many aspects of our life I come up with the hey, I want to do this. Speaker 1: She calls herself design and I'm construction. Speaker 2: And he'll ask me a question of well, do you think I should do this or run it on battery? I'm like not construction design. Speaker 1: I got no information. Speaker 2: That's your problem to solve sign, I got no, no information. That's your problem to solve, and so what happens is you take it and you figure out how to make it. Speaker 1: So you know, I really don't. I don't figure anything out, I just go, do it and the information comes to me exactly because you're used to that frequency, you expect the knowledge to be there. Speaker 2: you trust that the knowledge will be there when you need it, and you don't even give it a second thought, because it has been. It's shown up consistently, time and time again. So what it does is it feeds my seeing, it is believing it mentality, because every time that you go into that space, when you're building something that's very methodical and very healing for you, it's your form of meditation oh yeah you trust that 100? Speaker 1: without a shadow of a doubt. Speaker 2: I've always you've heard me say there's nothing I can't do and there's never, ever a time when you question the channeling of that information or whether you can or whether you can't right. You just expect the knowledge to be there, you expect that doorway to be open. You walk through the doorway, you go, get the information off the shelf energetically and you access the information and you make it happen. It's just that simple. Speaker 1: That's exactly one of the beliefs I'm working through , because when I was younger, I was asked to do something and I told I don't remember who was there with me and I told somebody yeah, I can do that for you, not a big deal and my dad looked me dead in the eyes like why are you telling him you can do that? You've never done that before. And so it came off as I was being dishonest, which created the belief. And so that's one of the beliefs I'm working on. Yeah, because I know that I can do anything that I go try to do . You know, the newest example is that ice machine that we just tore apart. I have never torn one down like that. Speaker 2: Right. Speaker 1: We tore it down clean to put it back together and it works better than it did when it was new. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: But then when I was younger I was taught to telling people that oh yeah, I can do something when you don't really have the experience to do. It is dishonest and you know my uncle Gary called it being a con man and really it's just faith in my ability to just know how to do something. Speaker 2: To access the information, to access the information, to channel the information. If we have this conversation, it'll help you not only you, but others, because what you're experiencing is a type of what would be the best verbal word Hold on. Speaker 1: Channel that information. Speaker 2: I'm looking for the best word for the best word. This is an example of the compartmentalization that happens between the aspects of ourself. Here we go the human mind, the intuitive or the higher self mind and the energetic mind. When you compartmentalize, then you're not identifying those other two compartments as part of you, and so identifying them as separate entities makes the information that come through feel like it's coming from someone else or something else and not a part of you. So when you bring yourself back together as a whole person and you realize those are aspects of you, you've sliced yourself into three components and you need to thin the veil between those components and reunite self, then it's easier to understand that when you're accessing that information, you're part of the all that is, and that information is just as much yours as it is anyone else's. And just because it came out of their human mouth first doesn't mean that it's not your information as well, because we collectively are part of all that is. Speaker 1: Okay, I get that. I totally understand it. Speaker 2: So it's not a lie. Speaker 1: No, no, it's not really a lie. Speaker 2: There's an aspect of you on a big, grander scheme of things that experienced that. Oh, I agree you were just in a different frequency. You were in a different type of suit. Speaker 1: You were a different character when you experienced it yeah, I totally agree with you, and that's where the the bump up against belief things coming into play and all this that I've been working on for the last couple days because just one of the examples is what I just told you is. I remember my uncle, gary, flat out calling me why are you conning people? You don't know how to work on a motorcycle, you know, or whatever. Speaker 2: And so what'd you do? Speaker 1: I went and fixed it. Speaker 2: And so then, what did you? Did you have a conversation with him afterwards? Speaker 1: No, they never took it back. You know those kinds of things. It's just because they they're so focused that they are right that they forget to be humble when they're wrong. Right, that's their journey though I agree, totally agree, and here's where another thing that comes into play. Speaker 2: But what did you do with the bump up against spot then? Speaker 1: I haven't done anything with it yet, but this is why Okay, because something that I have learned since, by the way, I have the best wife in the world and she allows me to be me all the time, and I love that about her, and I love that about us, and what is it that you? want. I don't want anything, but going to talk about what. What is you know? You taught me that this is. Life is a script. We have written this script before we came here, Right, Life is a script. We have written this script before we came here, Right. And so the reason why I haven't done anything with those kind of things in my belief system is because what if I'm not supposed to? Because that's part of my script. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: And so that's where the invalidation part comes in. For me, okay, for me. Speaker 2: Okay, so let me stop you there, because when you have a question like that that pops up, that is a hard indicator that you have a definition or you have a belief that is ready to be looked at. I agree, because if not, then that question would never pop up . Speaker 1: Right, which is what I've been working on. Speaker 2: That's what I've been looking at. When higher self gives you information that you know, like you know, like you know, there is never a question that pops up . What makes the questions pop up ? Like you just said? Am I supposed to change this, Am I not? That's your belief mechanism trying to hang on for dear life. Trying to hang on for dear life , okay. And so the question would be what do I choose to believe to be true to make that question pop up? Why am I not believing a hundred percent, with beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the information to release this is true and accurate? Why am I questioning that and then wait for the answer? Because that's a full-on red arrow pointing at boop boop, boop, boop, belief ready to be file 13. He's messing with his buttons that are not programmed yet that's danger. Speaker 1: Will robinson for the air horn? Wow, that's a terrible sound timing. But I mean I totally understand . And that's a terrible sound timing, but I mean I totally understand. And that's where my confusion come in. And I appreciate the clarity because when I stop and really think about all of this stuff that I've went through, because, man, this book is really making me look at me. Speaker 2: That's what it was made for. Speaker 1: And it is very much, I think, thinning my veil. Speaker 2: Of course. Speaker 1: And, by the way, I know I said this, but I do appreciate your patience through all this because you've been asking me the last couple of days. You've been looking at me like, okay, what's going on in your world? Speaker 2: Only because I love to see the growth and the evolution. I love my passion. You know as well as I do. My passion is having these conversations. I could literally sit here on this microphone and talk all day long about these rabbit hole topics. I could go on and on for days and so watching anyone, and especially you, because you're my favorite human. Speaker 1: You're my favorite. Yeah, oh, I'm your favorite. Speaker 2: Watching you go through an evolution is exciting and fun to me the epiphanal moments or the challenges or the aspects of your mystery story that you're experiencing. I wait patiently for it. Right and because you know I mean it's like reading a book and waiting for the next chapter . Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been really. It's been really, especially the last couple of days. It's been really weighing on me and my expansion within it is quite large. I mean, I've been looking at things all the way down to when my grandfather moved down in front of us when I was a kid and he made the comment. When I asked him what are you doing, or something I don't remember, he said oh, I'm just moving down here with all you rednecks doing, or something I don't remember. He said oh, I'm just moving down here with all you rednecks and to me. Speaker 2: I didn't realize that being a red you know, being called redneck was supposed to be a derogatory, derogatory term or condescending, whatever you want to say. Speaker 1: Yeah, Because I always looked at a redneck, because I was told by um, the guy that owned the fish farm across the highway from me, that a redneck was a farmer. Because they always got sunburnt necks because they'd be riding their tractor all day yeah and so I looked at it as a positive thing. These guys are working hard. They're doing the they're. You know. They're doing the thing they're . They're growing vegetables for us to eat those kind of things, and never once did it cross my mind when I was younger that redneck was a negative. Speaker 2: I think probably at one point that was a. It probably started out as a positive term. Speaker 1: Probably did. Speaker 2: And then it just evolved into negativism. Speaker 1: And I remember one time when I asked I don't even remember who I asked, it may have been my football coach I said why does everybody call everybody rednecks around here? He said because rednecks are uneducated. Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't do anything but work on the farm. Speaker 1: They can't do anything but farm work. Speaker 2: They can't do anything but work in the oil fields. Speaker 1: He said back in the day the rednecks, they're not smart enough to coach people. They call the oilfilled people something else. What do they call? Speaker 2: them. Where I came up, it was rednecks, roughnecks, they call them roughnecks. Yeah, roughneck redneck? Speaker 1: Yeah, all kind of, but I remember, you know, I think it was Coach Foster that said this, but he said well, I guess, because they're not educated, they never went to school. All they did was work on the farm all their life. You know, all they did was work on the farm all their life. And I asked him when? When did that happen? Because they were probably smarter than we are. And he said well, you're talking about centuries ago, that this term has started, and I actually tried to look it up and, of course, google. That's just somebody's input information in there. Speaker 2: Not necessarily. That's a way for your higher self to communicate with you. Speaker 1: Okay, that's kind of the depth of where I'm going with all of this stuff and where my mind has been constantly binging boom, boom boom back and forth on this download for this book because I am finishing this book, hopefully by you know . My goal is to have it done by January 15th or 20th of next year and if I get it done quicker, great. If I don't, I don't. But right now I'm kind of in that spot of logging everything where it goes and trying to go through some experiences of some things and clearing some beliefs and opening that door for that veil to thin a little more and expand as much as I can , because I think this book is going to be very enlightening to humans. Speaker 2: It's already been very enlightening to you. Speaker 1: Oh, very much so, very much so. It really stops and makes you look at a lot of things that we were taught, especially in my age. Yeah, much so. It really stops and makes you look at a lot of things that we were taught, especially in my age. Yeah, that we were taught as younger, in our younger generations of things, because we're kind of in that bubble to where and you know, just give one idea is when we were kids. I don't know about you, but when, when we were kids, race, racial slurs and being discriminatory towards different races was a normal everyday thing. Speaker 2: Right, oh yeah, oh yeah, it was. Speaker 1: It was, I don't know. Speaker 2: It was a form of discipline, it was a form of joking, kidding around like it was just, it was the norm. Speaker 1: Right. Speaker 2: We had to modify our behavior and interaction tremendously when the politically correct era came along. Yeah, it was crazy. Speaker 1: And then we were going through all this prejudicial stuff and then we were last key kids on top of that, because we were in that era where one-income families couldn't make it anymore, and so I don't know how many times I would spend these days alone. And so I don't know how many times I would spend these days alone. And then I remember when I was probably 10, I would go to work with my mom in the summer times and I would go across the street to the rec center and I would play basketball all day long and I was the only non-black on the floor and I got my family holy cow. It was insane, this stuff, that they would say to me yeah, and I would cause I would, you know, at lunchtime I'd run across the street cause my mom ran a restaurant. I would run across the street and I would, I would eat and I'd go right back and I'd spend all day until she got off and I enjoyed myself doing that. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: I went into it very hesitant. The first time I went to go do that, I remember sitting on the bleachers for two or three weeks . Nobody ever picked me up to play. I you know when, when they were running up down the court, when they were on the right side of the court, I'd go shoot on the left side and I was very, very nervous to interject myself because of my teachings yeah, because of what I was taught Right. And when I actually interjected myself into it, I got to know every one of these people very, very well for a good number of years. I would go in the spring, I would go in the fall, during the fall break, and I'd go during the summers, and I got to know every one of these guys really, really well and everything I had been taught was a freaking lie. That's right, it was a lie. I mean they would stand up for me. You know, one of the guys actually took me to his house, aka the ghetto, you know. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And I remember, and it's crazy because it was both directions- oh, so his family did the same thing to him. Totally yeah, and so we go walking up on the porch and he said hey, why don't you come to my house for dinner? Because my mom was working nights that night and I snuck off with him to go to his house. My parents didn't know, nobody knew. Speaker 2: I don't think our parents ever really kept up with us. Speaker 1: No. Speaker 2: I mean really kept up with us. No, I mean because there were several times I was running around with my friends, oh yeah, and my parents never, never had a clue what we were doing. Speaker 1: No, you know. You know how many times I drove 40 miles away on my motorcycle. Speaker 2: My parents never knew it, I think I bring it up because I don't think it's even counted as sneaking off. Speaker 1: Yeah, we just did what we did and they I was just norm and so I walk up on this front porch with him and he said hey, what did he call his mom? I don't remember he called his mom something. And he said this is James. And I invited him over for dinner and she looked at me, she looked at him and she said why are you bringing him to my house ? And so here we are, two kids. We were like 11, 12. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And we're stuck in the middle. Speaker 2: Of generational controversy. Speaker 1: I didn't care if that man was purple. Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't care. Speaker 1: Right, I was just hanging out. We were having a good time. Man, we became tight. Speaker 2: Did she make you eat on the porch? Speaker 1: No, we left, he shut the door. He said Mom, why are you going to be that way? And he slams the door and we walk off and we went down to the Dairy Queen. Actually, he went in the house, stole money out of his mom's purse and then we went to the Dairy Queen and sat on the outside patio and I said man, we were having this very deep conversation for an 11-year-old. Yeah, and I said, man, your parents are just like mine. He said yeah, I know it's kind of stupid, because you know, his name was Peebo. That's what everybody called him. Yeah, peebo, his name was Paul Boone, and I was like people. Why, you know, I I never once thought for a moment at any given moment that I was in danger or that that you were going to do something bad to me. Yeah, but yet I was taught that that was that was going to happen. Speaker 2: Right. Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, no , and not once had you ever call me the n-word. And he said, but you can because you are. He said, you are my, you know right. And I was like, and we were friends forever, forever until he got caught up in the drug game and the gang because his dad was a gang member. He got caught up in the gangs and ended up in prison but and dead but anyway. So it was a. It was a very epiphanal moment. That's what some of those beliefs that are popping up in this book writing for me. That's bumping up against some things that I'm having to clear out of the way, because I have never been that guy that sees color and I've never been that guy that sees sexuality. I've never been that guy that sees women as a tool. I have been that guy that has that caveman mentality to, you know, be a provider, be a protector, be a procreator, to be me within the scenario that I'm in. Wow, I just got on the soapbox, didn't? Speaker 2: I hey, it's all good. Speaker 1: Yeah, and so here I am going through some of these old beliefs that I validated as real back in the day. Yeah, and the crazy part about it they didn't serve any purpose . Why did I agree with these things? They served no purpose in my life and still have it to this day. Speaker 2: Yeah, they served a purpose. Speaker 1: You may just not know what it is yet Okay, well, if it served a purpose, then that's fine. Speaker 2: There is nothing that doesn't serve a purpose in the whole divine, all that is. Every puzzle has a place and every place has a puzzle piece. Speaker 1: Finish up. That topic or that thought was is here I was. I'm going through this, these beliefs and these processes and these patterns that I have created over the years, and removing these things that I had already validated once, and turning them invalid and getting rid of them he's here, by the way who's here? Oh, paul, yeah people, what's it makes? Speaker 2: sense he didn't introduce himself at first and I was like, okay, not the time, not the place, about to go on radio. Don't know who you are, don't know you want, but you're gonna have to wait yeah, he's uh, that day he had, he's just. And so when you said, that it was like oh, okay so welcome, have a seat. Speaker 1: you want the mic? Pee-bo Funny story about Pee-bo . He had this huge afro. He has on a purple. Speaker 2: He must have changed, because he always wore blue. Speaker 1: It's purple. Yeah, maybe it's faded or something. I don't know he had this huge afro I mean it was massive. He had been growing it never cut his hair. Do you know what he said? He had never cut his hair. And one day I took him across the street to go eat with me at lunch at my mom's restaurant and we come walking in, we go walking across the street and we're walking across the street he's pulling his hair down and putting it into this like knot tie thing, and I was like what are you doing, man? And he said said well, I put this down because it freaks. It freaks all the white folk out. I'm like because he had, he had a pick in it. You know, yeah, I'm like what do you mean? What does your hair freak people out? What he said I don't know either and we just. But anyway, he said, my mom always told me I had to, and so we go across the street and he's got his hair pulled back and we walk up to the counter. I I'm like Mom, I'm here to eat lunch. And she did the same thing his mom did to me. Why'd you bring him over here? Speaker 2: I was like that's not cool Because we're hungry, Because we're hungry. Speaker 1: Mom, what are you doing? Go sit down, I'll bring it out in a minute. That's all that was really ever said about it. So I don't know why I'm on this kick. But you don't tell people. I said, hey, what's up, dog? Speaker 2: You just did. Speaker 1: Love you man. Speaker 2: So, anyway, I'm going to I'm going to forego my my conversation now over to you and that you explain what I just talked about. What in tarnation do you want me to do with that? Speaker 1: bloody mess. Well, you were giving me steps, remember, mass well, you were giving me steps, remember? Speaker 2: and then I got on to do what I got on this soapbox because that belief system. Speaker 1: It was very deep in this book for me yeah and obviously, and this, this, uh, and I want people to understand. First of all, I think that if you listen this podcast, you need to really understand this that no matter how it feels because, man, I've been really uncomfortable in the last couple of days going through some things no matter how it feels on the other side, it feels better . Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how it always is. Speaker 1: It's, it's been a, it's been a crazy couple of days for me. Um, and trying to stay focused on doing the things we're supposed to um, my other responsibilities, my human responsibilities, my spiritual responsibilities, my husband responsibilities, my spiritual responsibilities, my husbandly responsibilities, trying to keep up with everything while working. All this in my mind. It's funny because me keeping up with those responsibilities gives me that time to work on that stuff mentally, and that's why I bury myself in work sometimes by design because that's just how I operate. Speaker 2: That is like you said that is my meditation spot. You've created a reality where you can stay in almost a constant state of meditation. Speaker 1: That's correct. That's what I do. I just continue working and bury myself in it. Speaker 2: Exactly. Speaker 1: Because I go through the motions, because I really think what I've identified is, when I'm doing those kind of things, my work. I just tap into the records and keep right on flowing and I don't even have to think, and then I can take my human brain and put it in place and let it work through the spiritual processes that I'm working on. Speaker 2: But anyway, what a magnificent design you've created. Speaker 1: I know right, it works quite well. Your higher self is amazing. Speaker 2: what a magnificent design you've created. I know right, it works quite well. Your, your, your higher self is amazing. Speaker 1: You tell people he still, I still, he can't cross me over. He tried, tried, tried. Speaker 2: He said I can on the court. Speaker 1: Nope, um, and as I grew up, it was funny because when we first met, he was taller than me. And as and as I grew up, it was funny, because when we first met, he was taller than me and as I grew up, I was taller than him not because of his hair no, his hair. I think he did that to scare, I don't know why. Well, I know why he did that because when you're playing basketball and his hair is going all over the place, it's very distracting yes, that's what he just said. It's a distraction, man you know , the funny part about it is he is the whitest talking black dude I ever met. He was he, he had he. He didn't fit the mold that, but he ended up falling into the mold, which I should kick his butt for it it was part of his journey yeah, I get it, I know, but anyway. so the steps by which I'm going through this and, like I said, I want people to understand that yeah, it kind of feels weird, but coming out the other side feels better, and sometimes it can go on for days and it just kind of makes you look around a little bit like is this right? Because it shouldn't be this long. Speaker 2: But that's a definition, it is. Speaker 1: You're right, that's what. That's the part I was missing that you said all ago was definitions. You're right, because when I get resistance, it's a definition that I need to change . Right? Okay, I'm out. See you later. Drop the mic okay, um very well , yeah, that was, that was recap then for our listeners. Speaker 2: If they've not processed to the point that you're at, could you give them some pointers on some active steps they might try that help them navigate through getting to that point? Speaker 1: You know, for I think I can A couple of steps anyway, Because I'm still not complete with it either. Speaker 2: So the first step always is come into the awareness that there's something ready to come up and be looked at. Speaker 1: Well, so let me clarify. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: Let me make sure I'm understanding your question Okay , because within this system, my awareness was already there, and so I'm dealing these downloads for this book and I'm aware of these downloads and I'm aware of the contrast within the downloads, and so what I had to do was tell myself that, no matter how you feel humanly, it is okay to look at these beliefs , yep, and it is okay to stop and say race should have never existed in this world okay and you know, just that's just one example and so making it okay to feel better about it being okay because there are old beliefs in there and it will. It is the first step for me, because I was already aware. Speaker 2: Okay, but just the simple statement of race should have never been in existence is invalidating part of the contrast that brought us to an evolved place as a society as a group, as a collective, I agree. I totally agree with that Race as a collective. Speaker 1: I agree, I totally agree with that, so race had to be there. I agree. I mean everything that we've been through had to be there. Speaker 2: Yeah, For evolution it would not if it wasn't there, would not have given you the opportunity to experience the racial contrast, bringing you to the evolved state of learning that labels identity. How important are they really? Speaker 1: How about the label of minority? Why don't we just keep people suppressed, calling them a minority? Speaker 2: Some people choose to experience that journey. I agree on a rabbit hole level in a not even a multiverse anymore. A billiverse, what A Googleverse? What's bigger than a billion. Speaker 1: A billion. Speaker 2: Yeah, a ziggleverse. We're going to call it a ziggle-verse. Speaker 1: What did I hear the other day? I heard that it was supposed to be 400 billion or something like that. Speaker 2: We're going to call it a ziggle-verse. That means more universes, catillion. Speaker 1: One in a catillion was one that I was watching one of those crime shows and that was the odds of this guy's DNA test being different. One in a cotillion was one that I it was. I was watching one of those crime shows and that was the odds of this guy's DNA test being different One in a cotillion. One in a cotillion, which is supposed to be like. Speaker 2: I feel like there's a Z word that's even bigger than that. Well, there might be but A ziggle verse. Speaker 1: A ziggle verse, anyway. Is that the guy that went like this? Speaker 2: No, that's Ziggy. Oh my bad Ziggoverse is more universes than you can even conceptualize. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: And every entity has scripts they want to play out for their evolution and their growth, and so it has to be. Every single piece of contrast has to be there in order for everyone to play out their scripts that they want to experience on a simultaneous level. Speaker 1: And how about the power of thought? It's crazy. The power of your thought is so astronomically huge. Speaker 2: It is. Speaker 1: And it can make you feel good. It can make you feel bad. It can make, and it can make you feel good. It can make you feel bad. It can make others feel good, others feel bad, and it's which I'm about to do a seminar on, by the way. But the identification of all of this for me, as I'm going through this book, is very awakening. Speaker 2: Yay, I love. It Feels good. Speaker 1: Anyway, I feel complete. Speaker 2: Did you finish your steps? Oh, no, well, so my. So I can, yes, listeners, what would you like to hear? Speaker 1: Some step by step actions that you can try. So being aware you're right, if you're not aware already of it of what's going on, the beliefs, the patterns, the programs, the , the uneasy feeling within you, um, aka, like I heard my on the thing I was watching this morning, um, I had, there was one gentleman that was doing a seminar on anxiety and how anxiety is part of a human response to an uneasy belief, to , or something like that, how he worded it. Like the belief is not good, so it creates anxiety. Speaker 2: Yeah, and the trip up point about anxiety is the frequency that it puts out. We as a society sometimes confuse it with excitement, so then that leaves us living in a loophole of constant anxiety. Speaker 1: And so the next step that I had to go through on that is, I was already aware, so step one would be bringing it to your awareness. Step two is making it okay to realize that those old beliefs are not beneficial anymore. Speaker 2: To you. Speaker 1: To me at the time, and step three was allowing the emotional part of it to be okay. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Because I've noticed some of the things is I've got anger, I've got sadness, I've got like you said to me yesterday, you just seem like you're not right or something A little bit of anguish, a little bit of angst, a little bit of anxiety. I went through this gauntlet of emotions. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And, like you said, the emotional guidance system tells us when we're right and wrong and and making the emotional part of it Okay. And then the step for me, the next step on that that I would say is working so well for me, is to really understand that that belief is not beneficial, to have a full understanding of it. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is is, if you have to do research, if you have to meditate, if you have to talk to your special person, like I do with you, then it gives me the ability to really understand that belief and why it's not beneficial. And then the last step of it is being okay with letting it go. Speaker 2: Right. Understanding that when you let it go, nothing bad's going to happen. Speaker 1: Right, I agree. Speaker 2: Because sometimes that mechanism, that belief system mechanism, will feed you a little monkey mind thing that if you let it go, something bad's going to happen if you're, if you're not careful, and so getting to that place of understanding that nothing bad is going to happen Because a belief system, whether it's beneficial or not, is designed to try and make itself true. Speaker 1: Because you know. Speaker 2: Don't fall for the trickery. Speaker 1: Having a greater understanding of it for me allowed me to not let my emotions invalidate my process. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Because what I'm going through, when you get into that emotion where you're angry about something or you're sad about something, it will make you want to invalidate and say, no, I'm not going to do this. Speaker 2: Right, because you don't want to experience the emotion. Speaker 1: Right, you don't want to experience the contrast of the belief removal and it has to be identified, and okay. Speaker 2: Yeah, because that is a key component of the power to release it and redefine it. Your belief system is going to kick into overdrive if it's trying desperately to hang on to something, and it will for just a second. If you're not careful, it'll feed you some nonsense of oh my god, if you let go of this, right, right, then isn't it easier to have that concept that maybe it is true, maybe it isn't, but if you do this, then you're for sure going to have to embrace the oh, it's not real. There is no doubt I can nibble on, it is for sure real. It is not real. It's almost like it wants you to feed on the doubt that it creates as a more comfortable place to be. Because once you've either solved the mystery, so to speak, and said, okay, yeah, you know what, this is true and I'm going to hang on to it, or you know what? No, this is not true and I'm going to hang on to it, or you know what? No, this is not true and I'm going to let go of it, then it's almost like it becomes concrete and irreversible, whereas your belief system or your monkey mind will want you to hang on to . Wouldn't it be better to just not know either way. That way you can't get stuck in the concrete side of one side or the other, and that's very easy. It'll trick you up. Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very easy to do, so you gotta stay aware of it Not to be confused with trip you up. And so another part of that is that I say it's kind of just all popping in. What I've been working on is I'm having to go through these beliefs and not worry about, because what popped up is well, if I do this, jenny's going to, jenny's going to say this, or or this is going to happen, or that's going to happen, or somebody's going to say this and I was going to. And I have to remove that fear because I don't care what my wife thinks, I don't. And when it comes to this, because this really this is a my journey within our journey together. Speaker 2: That's right. Not her bubble, not her business. Speaker 1: And no matter who it is. And you know I love you and you know we're madly in love with each other. But I still have to make it okay for me to work through the processes. Speaker 2: Of course, I am actually just an illusion that you created to help you. I don't really even exist. You're a hologram. I am. I'm a hologram. Everyone has their own play that they've created, and the characters that are in that play no matter whether it's a wife, a child, a stranger on the street is literally a virtual hologram of the reality that you've created. That person doesn't even exist. Could you carry sandwiches, people? You've created this aspect of me. I'm not physically sitting here . I am a hologram that you've created that is acting out my part in the play, and so it's okay to not. It doesn't have to be my business, it doesn't have to be my bubble. It's okay to have your own experience within the experience . Speaker 1: I was making a note for the next podcast. Speaker 2: If you want to know that on a deeper level, watch the movie. What was that? Speaker 1: movie. Speaker 2: Brad Pitt. Did they dream, inside the dream? Speaker 1: inside the dream. Yeah, we just watched it. Speaker 2: That is a very good description, descriptive movie on kind of how reality is. What was that movie? We're actually spirits. I don't know why you think about it. I'll break it down right quick. We're a spiritual being having a dream that we're a human, and sometimes, as a human, we have dreams that we're a spiritual being. It's a dream within a dream with a dream. So when we proverbial die, kick the croak. Speaker 1: It's really just in a dream. Speaker 2: It's just you working up in your spiritual form saying, oh wow, that was such a weird dream. Speaker 1: You're talking about the movie where he kept bouncing back to the same place. Speaker 2: And they had that. Speaker 1: Yeah, come on. What was the name of it? Speaker 2: It's like it starts with an eye, doesn't it Interstellar? Interstellar, that's it? No, no, it's not Interstellar. Are we supposed to be Even plugging that? What's the? Speaker 1: rules. There's no rules on it. Oh, we're a podcast, we're copyrighted, so Because we fancy , we are so fancy. Anyway, okay. Speaker 2: Somebody look that up In the audience. What is the name of that movie With Brad Pitt? Speaker 1: Yeah, put it in the comments. Okay, I feel complete. Do you feel complete? Speaker 2: Let me just fill the collective right quick to make sure, do you? Speaker 1: want to squeeze it. Speaker 2: There's Want to squeeze what. Speaker 1: Thank God, we're not video. Speaker 2: Put that thing away, man. I feel like I don't feel complete for some reason. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: I mean, I know you feel complete. Speaker 1: So yeah, so is your mind, because I don't even know, I just went to a complete blank . Speaker 2: Because it's not the information you need anymore. Speaker 1: Okay, Shoot away girlfriend information you need anymore. Speaker 2: Okay, shoot away, girlfriend. And it feels like to me there is a desire for a little bit more detailed possible steps to get from one point to the other and some techniques. So let's revisit that and see how I feel after I do that. Okay, so when you are having a reality that is not necessarily altogether comfortable, the key thing to remember is that the what we call contrast, the unpleasant experience, it does serve a purpose. It serves a purpose to help us better understand what we would like to have and what happens in those situations. We will behave in a certain way when a circumstance or an event presents itself to us with an emotion. If we don't like the emotion that we experienced. It's a good time to become aware that we don't necessarily like that emotion and that we are searching for improvement so that we can feel better. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: So, like if a circumstance happens and I get angry about it and I don't necessarily want to be angry about it then that's an opportunity to say okay, what belief would I have to choose to be true in order for me to experience the emotion of anger around this topic or any topics like that? And you wait for that information to come up, and it will come up in whatever ways is best for you and your higher self. Your higher self knows all about you, and that could be through a book falling off of the shelf. That could be a podcast that comes across that rings your bell. It could be a YouTube video. It could be a stranger walking across your path making a sentence that brings you to an epiphanal moment. The information can come in in many different ways. It can come in telepathically, where you're just like, oh, while you're in a meditative state. It could come in through a commercial on TV, just being open and receptive. Like you said, google is nothing but just somebody else's opinion and it has no value. It could come in on Google Higher self knows how to take the different types of components that bring us information and utilize them in a way that will get your attention, whoever you are, and so that information will come in and it will ring your bell, so to speak, ding ding, once you've had your bell rung and the belief appears. Had your bell rung and the belief appears at that point, then it's your opportunity to look at that belief and decide how am I perceiving that? Where did it stem from? And do I feel like it still is beneficial? Parts of it are beneficial, parts of it are not. And do I want to restructure it ? Do I want to modify it? Do I want to get rid of it? Do I want to redefine it? And those are all choices that you get to make, and what I would recommend is not trying to make those decisions from your human mind. Ask for your guidance from your higher self or, like me, I have a counsel at all times. Go into your counsel, state, your meditative state, your whatever place that you go into, and ask for the information and the guidance, and let that be okay. You don't humanly always have to come up with the answers. Let your counsel help you. It's such an easier journey. That's what they're there for. It's kind of I relate it to if I am the lead character in a play, the director. The play is there as a support resource to guide and direct you along the way of the play. If you forget your lines, there's somebody there that is ready to give you the lines, and so you're not having to put together the whole play. You find other characters, humans that will play the other characters. You're not having to run back and change clothes so you can be this character or that character or whatever. Reality is the same way, your higher self, your counsel, your guides, angels, whatever you're working with, whatever type of entity you're working with, that's what they're there for, and so let them give you the information. Yes, get rid of that. Yes, restructure it. Okay, if restructuring it is the key, then guide me on the best structure that I can put in place that would be of the highest and best benefit to myself, to myself, and then release the expectations of it having to look and be a certain way, or it doesn't work. That's the aspect that trips people up is having an expectation or a viewpoint that it must look a certain way humanly, or I'm doing something wrong. Speaker 1: If we can get to a place where we can let go of that, yeah, that's actually, I think, what was missing in my steps, because that's what I meant by being open. Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can get to a place where you are literally following your best feeling place, without any expectation or judgment of the outcome. Speaker 1: Not only judgment of what you judge yourself, but what you think others will judge you, or how you think that it's supposed to play out. Speaker 2: Yes, humanly, totally agree. And let it play out the way that oh, it's taken too long, this. I must have done something wrong. It's taken too long. Oh my gosh, it's. I've gone right and I should have gone left. I've messed it all up those are I'm a messer upper those are programs that you're running, based on beliefs and patterns that are flubbing you up. It's the very statement. Releasing all of that, getting to a place of just being open to it being whatever, whatever it is is what we mean by that. What I mean by that, releasing the judgment of it, releasing the criticism of whatever it is that you're working on, and just knowing that it's going to happen the way that it's meant to happen, in the perfect timing , and you thinking that it's taking too long, or you thinking that it should have been this when it should have been. That are the things that actually trip people up and create resistance and create block. Oh, it didn't go this way because, humanly, I had this whole little vision structured out and it's not going that way. So throw the papers off the desk, I shouldn't be doing it, and you give up on the concept because it didn't go a certain way that you had structured in your human head, because you can't conceptualize something bigger and grander than that, and so you think you're just not supposed to be doing it, and so we give up too soon and we don't let it manifest. Speaker 1: Agreed. Speaker 2: And have you ever had this happen? The minute that you give up on it and you change your focus and you start doing something different it comes into full fruition and it becomes something so big and amazing that you never even thought could happen. I've had that happen. Yeah, I give up on it. I let go of the resisting perspective that I did it wrong because it didn't look this certain way. So, okay, let me just give up on it and I'm going to chunk it in the virtual trash because I obviously shouldn't have been doing it. And then, with a matter of you know, sometimes 24 hours or a few days, it comes back around in full fruition, bigger and better than it ever was going to be, with me humanly trying to steer the boat, and so that's kind of, I guess, what I wanted to expound upon, for you know, just collectively, everybody. Speaker 1: Perfect, perfectly perfect. There you have it Flawed. Perfection, ladies and gentlemen, at its best. Speaker 2: So are you complete. Yeah, I think I'm good. Speaker 1: Okay, hey guys. Um, thank you all for listening to us and are rattling on sometimes. I got on my soapbox today, so for those of you that are Dr Jenny lovers, I apologize for having the mic so long, but I got into a spot there and just kept on going and I appreciate you listening. Speaker 2: There's much love for you as well. Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure we appreciate you listening. We love you. Don't forget like, follow, subscribe, share. And don't forget about our social media at the Merck Centers. So you can look us up on social media, Check out our website at themerccentersorg. Speaker 2: And ring the bell man , and ring the bell for those notifications. Speaker 1: Love y'all. Speaker 2: We love you. Speaker 1: Have an awesome, awesome day. Speaker 2: Journey on. We'll see you next time.