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Speaker 1: Good morning
everybody.
Welcome back to the Spiritual
Grind.
We're in studio today with Dr
Jenny and myself.
Again, Good morning.
We have a milestone that we
reached.
We do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a milestone.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: A mile is a long way
500 downloads oh really.
Speaker 1: Yep, we had 500
downloads yesterday.
Speaker 2: Oh, very nice.
Speaker 1: So we're celebrating
the 500 download.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're the 500
Club.
Speaker 1: Yep, we are Very cool
.
We got the badge from
Buzzsprout and everything
yesterday.
Speaker 2: Oh nice.
Can we have an applause?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we sure can.
Speaker 2: I need you to get
with it 500 downloads.
Very nice.
Speaker 1: Who would have thunk
it?
Speaker 2: Who would have thunk?
Speaker 1: it.
But here we are, another
milestone, milestone.
You ready for the milestone?
Yeah my books on amazon oh
applause oh yeah long time
coming sales energy method.
Get yours.
It's a sales book that teaches
you how to sell.
You.
Building relationships actually
can be used for not just sales.
It can be used for personal
relationships that you need to
work on and build.
If you read, understand the
entire book, you'll see that
it's more than just a sales book
.
Speaker 2: It's it's a
relationship building book of
course I would agree with that
100.
You can utilize the method in a
multitude of ways in your in
your personal life, in your
business life, for sure.
Speaker 1: I think you know
there's going to be a series of
books, and I think the one of
the things I'll do is I'll
actually put that on a uh in a
little bit of a different format
and put it out on a
relationship book too, cause
it's it's a great way to learn
to build relationships.
But Book 2 is going to be
coming out here before long in
the series, the Sales Energy
Method, and I'm probably going
to do an online seminar to teach
people.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: And so it's going to
be fun engaging and, man, it
will change your life if you can
learn to do the functions of it
.
Speaker 2: Right yeah.
Speaker 1: It's a great way.
It's a great way to operate
life yeah, I think for my.
Speaker 2: My commentary on it
is you know, it goes back to
kind of what we're trying to do
here is take, take the human and
teach them how to become more
of their natural being, which is
compassionate and loving, and
connect energetically.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Rather than living in
an automatic robotic style.
Speaker 1: I was pretty
impressed by one of the guys I
let read the partial manuscript
and he said you know what I took
away from that the most I was
like what he said, realizing
that everybody has common ground
.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh,
that's a good takeaway.
That was unintentional, it
wasn't even in there.
But he was like, yeah,
everybody has common ground one
way or another.
That's how we got into the
seven degrees of Kevin Bacon
conversation that day.
But it's out there.
It's called Sales Energy Method
.
That's how we got into the
seven degrees of Kevin Bacon
conversation that day.
But it's a.
It's out there.
It's called sales energy method
.
It's on Kindle and Amazon.
Check her out If you'd like to
read it and leave me a review.
I'd appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And if you got any
questions, don't hesitate to
give me a ring.
A ling ding message.
Speaker 2: Ring a ling ding.
Speaker 1: My author page.
You can message me through the
author's page on amazon yeah and
uh, you can see my beautifully,
uh, uh.
Ai generated photo that makes
me look 20 years younger.
I put my photo through ai and
asked them as to do.
All I did was tell them to
smooth my skin and change the
lighting, and it came up with
this thing that looked like I
was 20 years younger.
Speaker 2: No, that's not all it
did.
I feel like it does not.
Speaker 1: When I get a good
picture, I'll change the photo.
Speaker 2: I feel like it does
not look like you at all.
I'm like, who is this man?
Speaker 1: But it brings me to
my topic today.
Speaker 2: Do tell.
Speaker 1: Do you ever look in
the mirror and say to yourself
who am I?
Speaker 2: All the time.
Speaker 1: And when we do that,
because this is where I'm at
today, like this morning, I was
in the shower.
And when I'm in the shower,
everybody probably knows by now
that's when I kind of do my
self-check work.
And I have, over the course of
my years, changed so many hats
there's my S-hole going off.
I have, over the course of my
years, changed so many hats
there's my S-hole going off
Changed so many hats that
sometimes you can make yourself
not know who you are.
Because here's the reality.
I've been, oh my gosh.
I have been a farm worker.
I have been, over the course of
the years, in sales.
I've worked at insurance jobs.
I've had manager jobs.
I've owned my own business.
I've had all these things
throughout the course of the
years.
In sales.
I've worked, you know,
insurance jobs.
I've had manager jobs.
I've owned my own business.
You know, I've had all these
things throughout the course of
the years.
And here I am now a published
author too, and I'm liking the
author thing.
It's really fun.
You know, my life experience
has been very vast in comparison
to most people my age.
I agree, and putting that down
on paper is a very rewarding
feeling.
It feels good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I hope that that
book whoever, whenever, however,
can change one person's life,
then I've done my job Right,
Because that's where I'm at with
it, and so this morning I asked
myself who am.
I now, here I am.
I'm in my 50s.
Speaker 2: The beautiful thing
about it is that you can be
whoever you want.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Identity can be
whatever character you want to
be now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can be
whatever noun or pronoun you
want to be.
Speaker 2: That's right.
That's the beauty of it.
And that picture last night
really rattled that cage for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I also.
I was like was like, damn, that
really don't look like me.
But I was like I can see me in
it, but I don't see me in it.
You know what I mean yeah and
and so it made me say to myself
dang, is that how it saw me when
I took that picture yeah, and I
was like well, I don't see
myself that way.
Speaker 2: But who out there
does?
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Who's going to be
able to look at that picture and
say, oh, that looks exactly
like you.
Speaker 1: It removed every
forehead wrinkle I had.
Speaker 2: Because every
perspective is looking through a
different lens.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So you may very well
look exactly like that to
somebody somewhere.
Speaker 1: Right.
So I let one of the people that
worked for this read the
manuscript before I had
published it.
It was a partial manuscript and
her response was I see this
method of work in action every
single day, but I give it to our
other coworkerworker to read
and with it this is what she
said and I told her just imagine
that it's not james writing
that.
Yeah, because you need to put
yourself into the position and
not imagine him doing it, but
imagine yourself doing it.
And I was like, well, that's
great advice, but it but it
comes down to that.
How do they they see themselves
?
How do you see yourself?
How do I see myself?
And it can be a deep rabbit
hole.
Speaker 2: Right and we talked
about that a little bit this
morning with me because I'm in
this weird rabbit hole, because
I'm going through a little phase
in my life where I'm like what
is my purpose exactly now?
Speaker 1: She's so blind to her
own purposes.
Speaker 2: What is the point of
all this?
What is my purpose?
What am I doing?
Speaker 1: The faux pas request.
What is my purpose?
Speaker 2: And I, for a moment,
am uncertain on what exactly I'm
supposed to be doing.
And you said to me you don't
see what you do.
And you're right, I can't see
myself the way you see me.
I don't see myself the way
other people see me.
I see myself completely
different.
I don't really see me doing
much of anything, and so I've
gotten a little bit confused on
my journey along the way.
So rediscovery I'm in a process
of kind of a rediscovery of who
I am now and what am I doing.
Speaker 1: You're becoming an
author as well.
I am, yeah.
Speaker 2: That's another hat
you're going put on that head.
Yeah, I reckon, but I mean,
that's not really who, who I am
no, I agree.
I agree, that's who you're
being at the moment that's one
of the characters that I'm
playing, but who am I in this?
What am I?
Speaker 1: in this play of life.
Yeah, you know, what's really
cool about it is, like you said,
you don't have to label
yourself, right, you can be
whoever you want to be whenever
you want to be it exactly and
that's okay to do.
and so when you look at yourself
like you know, you know we used
to hear this a lot from people,
from our peers, you know, when
we were younger is, you know,
back in the day when we were in
high school, it was about go out
and be, go get your degree in
business and go get your degree
in accounting.
And then the market got so
saturated with degrees and those
degrees are useless anymore.
And then it went into the tech
schools and then it went into
the other things.
And when you go to and then you
run into those old people from
high school and they're not
happy with who they are, where
they are, and it can be, it can
be an eye opening experience.
Because they were so focused on
what they society taught them
they were supposed to be, they
quit being who they are.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: And finding their own
inner talents Right and
manifesting those.
And finding their own inner
talents Right and manifesting
those.
And man, it's been a pretty fun
journey for me these last few
weeks of doing this writing and
being able to experience that I
am being, right now, a writer.
I guess tomorrow I can go be a
diesel mechanic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like
the journey that I'm on it's
not about me not knowing who I
am.
It's about figuring out what
character I want to play now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and one of the
things that made me write this
book, write this book was and
the reason why I'm still
bringing it up is because
there's things that's helping me
go through this process that
come up is the other day I got
asked by my intern so how many
sales have you done in your
career with this company?
Speaker 2: Oh, with the company.
Okay, I was going to say wow.
Does he mean like in your whole
life?
Speaker 1: And so I was like,
hmm, it's a very good question.
So I went back and looked,
because I know what I did at the
last property.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And so I went back
and looked here and I officially
hit 455 sales.
Speaker 2: In just this building
or across your total career for
this company.
Speaker 1: And that generates a
revenue of $151 million.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you put some
figures out there.
In the last podcast we did.
Speaker 1: Wow, what a big
statement You'd put some figures
out there in the last podcast
we did Wow, what a big, what a
big statement Um cause that
that's a very valuable tool to
have.
And realizing that if you can
do that kind of stuff, the
commissions and the money is
nice and you can, and what's
really cool about it is you
develop some really cool
relationships along the way, and
then you identify and then you
identify.
I'm not taking it down that
road.
Speaker 2: Just jabbing with you
.
Speaker 1: And then you identify
yourself as as wow, you know I
have been pretty successful in
this Cause.
I just been having fun.
You know I love sales.
I loved it in the sales part.
I always loved selling, and no
matter what, in my own business
and when I was selling insurance
when I was, when I did
part-time car sales, when I when
I drove for Schwann's on the
weekends.
You know there was many things
that I've done along the way as
second jobs that I enjoyed more
than I did my full-time job.
It's a lot of fun.
I love selling things because I
think the best part of it for
me is the relationships that you
build.
I remember when I was writing
this book.
I remember back when I was
doing Schwann's on Saturday,
every other Saturday actually.
I remember back when I was
doing Schwan's on Saturday every
other Saturday.
Actually that's where the end
of the home Schwan's was the
what's that Instacart of the 80s
and 90s where they come to your
door and bring food to your
door.
You can order right there out of
the catalog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the kids love
the chicken.
Speaker 1: The chicken nuggets
Strips, yeah.
The chicken strips and I could
go to any of my customers
because I'd get to know them in
a, at a personal level, just by
talking to them along the way.
Blah, blah, blah.
I could be like, if we had
contests, I could go to them and
say, hey, I got a contest, what
are we gonna do today?
And they'd be like, well,
what's your goal, you know?
And I'm like, okay, I got to
reach this dollar amount today.
Blah, blah, blah.
And they would always help me
out with it because of the
relationship, right and it and
it.
Speaker 2: It creates a
camaraderie, camaraderie yeah,
definitely a co-purpose in
creating success yeah, and
that's where co-creation at its
best and that's what I
discovered this morning in the
shower is who I am is.
Speaker 1: I am that guy that
can show people how to do that
in their life.
Speaker 2: Do you have two
thumbs?
Speaker 1: who has two thumbs
and can do that?
Speaker 2: this guy if we had
video up and running you would
have seen this big cheshire cat,
grand, and two thumbs go up but
uh, so that's where it's.
Speaker 1: It was kind of an
epiphanal thing for me, because
I don't have to go through my
life trying to be what everybody
else wants me to be.
I can go through my life being
what I want to be Absolutely.
Now there are times in your
life when you agree to do things
that you have to kind of morph
into being something that
somebody else wants you to be,
when you have a mutual agreement
.
Speaker 2: But you can still
find a way to be yourself within
it, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I agree, and that's
where my discovery process has
been going lately.
And then it's kind of funny
because it fell right into place
when we had the conversation
about you this morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And yesterday, you
know, when you asked me.
I don't know what my purpose is
anymore and it's obvious to me
and probably everybody around
you.
If you were to go up and ask
them what you do for them, they
would tell you all the same
thing and you, identifying that,
they're all going to tell you
that you create a stability and
intelligence level that gives
them the confidence to be who
they are Pretty much, and you
will also chastise them when
they get out of line.
Speaker 2: I don't chastise,
that's kind of a hard word.
I just maintain accountability,
like I'm gonna call you on your
shenanigans yeah, I.
I mean, if you come to me
asking a question, make sure you
want the answer, and I always
ask that first, because I'm
going to pull out those things
that you're not being
accountable for.
Speaker 1: And remove all
filters.
Speaker 2: And sometimes they're
uncomfortable and people don't
like it, but that's just who I
am.
Speaker 1: That's just what I do
.
Oh wait a minute.
That's what.
That's just part of what I do.
That's who you are.
It's part of what I do, I agree
.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like
when you have a thorn stuck in
your foot.
It hurts like hell when you
pull it out and it hurts like
hell with it being in there but
it sure feels good when it comes
out golly gee, it feels really
amazing whenever you get it out
yeah, and you may have to dig a
little bit and the digging is
excruciating, but when you
finally get it out the relief is
just amazing.
And working on all of these
different things we've talked
about in our podcasts are kind
of that way Agreed.
It is uncomfortable to have me
help you dig that thorn out.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But once we do, it's
life changing.
Speaker 1: So your purpose is a
shovel, I guess I don't know.
Have me help you dig that thorn
out.
Yeah, but once we do, it's life
changing.
Speaker 2: So your purpose is a
shovel, I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just one
big shovel.
Speaker 2: A shit shoveler.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of
crazy.
You bring the shit right out.
I bring the shit out, man.
And so when you are out there
and if you're going through the
same kind of dilemma, you know
it's okay to answer yourself,
truly, ask yourself the
questions of what is my purpose
today?
What is what?
What is it that I'm going to
bring to the table to this
universe today?
What am I going to learn today?
You know what?
What part of what script am I
going to be involved in today?
it's okay to do that yeah, 100
and come up with a good, solid
daily ritual that'll do that and
that will give you a not saying
it's going to give you right
away it.
Can you know your explanation
of who you are right there, but
it will develop over time and
know that you need to be who you
are and not what everybody else
wants you or you think
everybody else wants you to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of the
questions that you can ask to
set yourself up to receive the
information that is always being
given to you, whether you can
hear it, see it or not, would be
these, and this is what works
for me.
So, when I find myself in the
place that I'm at now, before I
go out into the world, I say to
myself okay, I'm a little
confused about what my purpose
is, so please reveal to me what
is my purpose today and help me
see that and remove any beliefs,
patterns or programs that might
be in the way that would
prevent me from being able to
see what you're trying to show
me.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
Speaker 2: And kind of word it
in that way, and then just pay
attention to when you go out and
also, you know, putting in
there that your intention,
because you want to set clear
intentions.
My intention is to go through
my day rediscovering what my
purpose is, in alignment with my
enjoyment, without expectation
of how it must look.
That's how I go about it, and
so then what happens is I will
go out without really any
expectation, I'll go out of my
door and inevitably what happens
is, you know, something will
happen, somebody will come along
and I'll have an interaction
and it will end up being a very
fulfilling or very fun
interaction.
And it will end up being a very
fulfilling or very fun
interaction, whether it be with
you as my human or stranger or
another person, and it validates
what my purpose was today.
And then I'm like, oh okay,
that was my purpose today.
All right done, I can go home
now and knit on go home Knit on
my couch.
Speaker 1: Knit crochet.
Crochet me a sweater.
Crochet you some Well you know,
what I see a lot of is people
that get confused about life and
they confuse systematically,
confuse, systematically confused
.
I want to say it systematically
because I see it a ton where
situations will happen and they
systematically change who they
are because of an instance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a trip
up place.
You begin to change who you are
because you think you've got to
look a certain way, you've got
to be a certain way you've got
to act a certain way.
Nine times out of 10, you're
doing it not because that's what
really must happen, but because
that's a story that you've told
yourself based on how you think
somebody else sees you or is
interpreting you Right, sees you
or is interpreting you right,
and that story is usually not
correct.
Correct story is usually a lie,
because you've not.
I promise you, if you go to
that person and you ask them I
think you think this about me,
is that true?
They will let you know that.
Oh my God, no, that's a farthest
thing from what I was thinking
in the first place, and so then
you can get to a place where
you're like you fucking monkey
mind, I'm going to kick your ass
.
Speaker 1: There's a banana.
Shut up, beep, beep.
Speaker 2: And then you realize
that you know, your monkey mind
is telling you stories that are
not even true.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And you're creating
an entire reality based on a lie
or a mystery.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it can be from
many things from your beliefs,
historical, from society.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
We are such firm believers on
working with your belief system
and that structure and making
sure that you've got a really
clean template that you're
coming from, especially whenever
you view your reality and you
think, golly, this is not where
I thought I was going to be, I'm
fed up, I'm tired of it.
When you talk about recreating
a new reality.
You talk about recreating a new
reality.
It's just really important to
make sure your definitions are
up to speed, make sure your
beliefs are up to speed, update
your processing system and find
that steps or, um, whatever that
procedure looks like for you
yeah whatever permission slips
you need to put in place,
whatever fairy tells you need to
temporarily put in place is
just as valid, and so let me go
here for a second okay real
quick.
No, you're good I will pretend,
fuck, he just hit his funny bone
and it's not funny at all on
the table go ahead.
Sorry, didn't mean to interrupt
you if it's okay for your
monkey mind to tell you a lie
about what you think somebody
else thinks about you, then it
is okay for you to counter that
lie with a made-up daydream, if
you will, to make it feel better
.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't
necessarily have to be
categorized as a lie.
It can be categorized as well.
This is what I am going to
create in my fairytale bubble of
playing the game, like I've
said before Okay, what if?
What if life looked like this,
and then follow that and hold on
to that for a minute.
It's not a lie.
It's playing the what if game
of creating that reality that
you would really like to see
come into existence.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's a really good
game.
It's a really fun game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see where
it'd be really fun.
Speaker 2: And allowing yourself
to be childlike in it and
daydream man Pretend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know,
that's a really good example,
actually, of what happened in
explaining just that.
I had somebody come up to me
and said, hey, this guy or this
person wants me to.
She was talking about her son.
Her son wants to be her POA,
wants to take over her finances
and stuff.
My son wants me to do this.
And I said, well, so imagine
this.
Imagine that he has full
control, because she was going
the opposite with it.
He just wants the money to see
where it is, so he can, you know
, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
going through all this negative
stuff.
I said, well, imagine this
Right, make it okay, imagine the
good parts.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And make it more
about who it is that you want to
be in it, not about who you
think everybody thinks you
should be in it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And create a better
story and see how that feels,
create a little bit of a
pendulum effect within that
monkey mind belief.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at the
other side of the coin.
Yep, if you're going to look at
the negative side of it, then
take it to the opposite extreme.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's the same
thing with self-purpose.
If your monkey mind's telling
you all right this, then
pendulum it.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and I
mean my purpose is to just be, I
know that.
Speaker 1: Yep, just keep doing,
you baby.
Speaker 2: But sometimes, you
know, we have human elements
that pop up.
Oh yeah totally, and I'm no
different than anybody else.
So sharing that I hope helps
keep it real.
You know what I mean, Because
my poop stinks just like
everybody else's.
Speaker 1: Yes, it does
no-transcript.
You know, to kind of I don't
remember what I'm trying to say
the word, what word am I looking
for to add to that?
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, you
know.
Spell it and put it in a
sentence, please, and put it in
his foot and sleaze.
To add to what you were saying
is, a lot of the times we will
get little trip up areas when
we're trying to do that because
there's beliefs that get in the
way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When you're trying to
find a more positive.
Well, I did that before and
this happened.
Or I did that before?
Speaker 2: and this happened
Right.
Speaker 1: You've got to allow
those beliefs just to release as
you do it.
And what is it going to hurt?
I say that all the time.
What's it going to hurt?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Right, Because
the mechanism.
So sometimes what happens,
especially when you see
repetitive things in your life?
Why am I repeating this?
People get very annoyed and
very aggravated.
Why?
Is this here again.
I thought I cleared it and you
did clear it, but the universe
is giving you an opportunity to
re-experience it so that you can
create a positive file.
Speaker 1: A new history that
counteracts the negative
experience.
Correct.
Speaker 2: So that you've got
both to pull on as you go along
your journey, doing additional
things that are branches off of
that.
Correct, because if you're
trying to go in a direction, but
you need both the positive
experience and the negative
experience to pull on out of
those proverbial files, but you
don't have a positive experience
to match the negative
experience to pull on out of
those proverbial files, but you
don't have a positive experience
to match the negative one,
sometimes you'll be sent down
that same path, or what feels
like that same path, not to
re-experience the negative
aspect of it, because you've
already done that, but for it to
turn into a positive outcome to
counterbalance the negative
outcome, so that you have both
file folders to pull from for
the next phase of your evolution
, your journey, your experience.
You need both, but your higher
self knows that and so not don't
get tangled up and frustrated
on damn, why is this happening
again?
Right, maybe look at it from
that place.
Speaker 1: You know, when I hear
the tools like, there's this
really famous talk show TV host
that always says the best
predictor of future behavior is
past behavior and he's using
that in a negative way.
Speaker 2: Jerry Springer with
the guy that has no legs.
Speaker 1: No, and I don't want
to say his name on here, but the
.
He uses that in a negative way
because, like when he uses it on
a show, he uses it in the.
Normally you're like with
cheating husbands or whatever
that is, but really you can look
at it with yourself too.
The best predictor of future
behavior is past behavior,
unless you change the belief.
Right, exactly, and so, but
it'll give you an investigative
tool to say why am I doing this?
Because this was predictable,
because it's happened before,
and you can look at it in a way.
If you stop and say, okay, so
why is it doing it, then you can
.
It's easier to find a
step-by-step process for you to
understand what's causing you to
do this.
Because we create our reality
and if you don't change the
history, you can't change the
future.
Because of beliefs.
Speaker 2: Yeah so.
Speaker 1: Kind of.
Speaker 2: Rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of.
Speaker 2: You actually are.
Speaker 1: Dun, dun dun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to
decide if I want to go in that
direction.
Speaker 1: Oh, is your blinker
on.
Speaker 2: I'm going to change
directions.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to
go the other way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to
go the other way, so carry on.
Speaker 1: Okay, carry on my
wayward side.
Oh, and so when you stop and
look at it and things are
happening, you don't like
remember that.
That is true.
It is true for the best
predictor of future behavior to
be past behavior is because we
don't look at the true story or
the beliefs, patterns and
programs behind the historical
event.
And, like you said, the
universe will put things out
there to give you the
opportunity to change history
and change the belief behind it.
Right?
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: You got quiet on me.
Speaker 2: You disconnected.
Speaker 1: Did you lose your
channel?
Do you need?
Speaker 2: to go on it.
I need one of the kids to
change the channel and hold the
bunny ears.
Speaker 1: You lost the channel.
Speaker 2: No, I was listening.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 2: I was waiting to see
if you what you were gonna say
do you agree with what I said?
Um yeah so you're not creating
history you're well every the
minute you're done with it.
It's created you're when you
live.
You live in the present moment.
You're choosing to bring
history with you.
Like the past is already done
Right and you're a new person in
every second Agreed person in
every second agreed and because
of that, you're choosing whether
you bring the past into this
new reality with you or if you
create a new agreed future, so
to speak, right.
I agree with what you're saying
I know, but I'm trying to make
it to where the they out there
kind of understands what I'm
trying to say.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: The past is not your
past.
It's not where you create from.
That's already done and over
with.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: Unless you make an
actual concerted choice.
Effort to purposely bring that
crap with you.
Effort to purposely bring that
crap with you.
And if you are, by evidence of
feeling like you're repeating,
then you've got to ask yourself
what is it that I have to
believe to be true for this to
continue to be something that
I'm bringing over into this
reality with me from the
stinking past?
Why am I not letting go of this
luggage and leaving it there?
It obviously is still serving
some sort of purpose for me, or
I believe that it is.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Because you're
actually creating the reality
from a future standpoint.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: So the reality that
you're in now came from you
daydreaming about how you want
your reality to be.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Not how it was
necessarily.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
Speaker 2: And that's how you
become who.
You are right this minute.
It's from the future, not from
the past agreed and when you get
tired of lugging that past
luggage around, you'll let go of
it and release it yes there you
have it there you have it, my
job here is done.
Speaker 1: And you know that is
a very solid way of looking at
it.
You know, and that's what I was
bringing up about, the phrase
is because when people aren't as
solid in their spiritual work
yet, Solid as a rock.
You know, I was hoping that
phrase would create that doorway
for them to go to there.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And I hope that
that's what they understand.
This is about identifying what
we don't want and what we do
want, and the contrast between
it.
Speaker 2: And you said it
perfectly.
What do you have to lose?
Speaker 1: Right.
What do you have to lose?
Speaker 2: I mean start creating
your reality from the future.
Who is it that I want to be?
What do I want to experience?
Daydream about that and then
start doing the steps that that
person would do if you were
already doing it.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 2: And let go of the
past nonsense that's not serving
you.
If you truly want to come out
of that loop hole or that, um, I
don't know that.
Just I'm tired of it like drop
the luggage, leave it behind and
start daydreaming about who it
is you want to be now right
agreed, or what character do you
want to play?
What do you want to do now?
What do you want to do now and
give yourself permission to do
it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so that's
actually where I was taking this
podcast to right.
There is when you look in the
mirror or you're asking yourself
who you are, what am I, what is
my purpose, where you just have
to know that that is literally,
and always will be, an
ever-changing thing it's an open
book man yeah, you can be
whatever you want to be.
So you have to ask yourself
change it.
From who am I, what am I to?
To who do I want to be, what do
I want to be, and create that
world what am I giving myself
permission to be?
That's right, or?
Speaker 2: to do or to have.
Speaker 1: Because my truth is
this, and my truth is that and
so that's where you need to go
with it.
Who cares about the past?
You can't go back and change it
.
You can only when things pop up
from your past.
Yeah, you need to handle them,
but you can't change the past.
You can only change the future,
and so why not?
Speaker 2: Right, exactly.
Why not?
Right, exactly?
You know, put that out there,
let it be.
And if you've got, if you've
got yourself stuck on not
allowing yourself to go and
explore that little daydream,
figure out why, correct, why.
Why are you not allowing
yourself to?
Is it because you have some
sort of stinking thing stuck in
your crawl that says, oh, I'm
not good enough, or who's gonna
read my book, or what?
I don't have the money to do
that.
But I'm here to tell you that.
You know, one of the things
that I can share with you is
neither one neither james or
myself, sat down in our life
thus far and said you know what,
one day I'm going to be an
author.
We can honestly say that that's
not ever been in my journey.
Speaker 1: I have been thinking
about it for, like the last year
you have.
Speaker 2: But not like whenever
your parents or somebody came
up to you and said what do you
want to be, little boy?
I want to be an author.
Speaker 1: I said firefighter.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And I did that and
hated it.
I did it for everybody, like
six months, seven months, but I
hated it.
I was a volunteer firefighter.
I hated it.
Speaker 2: And we just came to a
place where we followed the
steps and we get inquisitive
about what are the possibilities
, what is the next thing that we
want to do?
That sounds fun and we just
kind of go with it.
Yep, and we came across.
I don't even remember, honestly
, at this point, how the book
journey started, but we just
followed the next best thing and
the next thing the what the
next best thing and we find
ourselves here doing this next
thing.
Speaker 1: You know you're doing
podcasts, writing books,
teaching people everything you
know yeah, and you just take it
one step at a time.
Speaker 2: if we had looked,
looked at like, for example, a
podcast, if we had looked at the
whole construct of what it took
to get us to the 500 download
and we were like, okay, we don't
really know what this looks
like, we think it would be fun.
Speaker 1: Right and the podcast
according to their records is
growing and we have no
advertising at all.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And it's growing.
Speaker 2: In a very rapid state
.
Speaker 1: Faster than most
podcasts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, faster
than most podcasts, yeah, yeah,
but the but.
I can remember the first thing
that we did when we when we both
decided that we were going to
do a podcast, is that we went
and looked at the equipment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just went
and did it.
Speaker 2: We just decided okay,
you know what we're doing this,
so we went to.
Best Buy and you had done
research on what the best
equipment was to do it yes,
let's start that with you, and
so that was the first thing.
Speaker 1: Is that we?
Speaker 2: went and we bought
the equipment and we started
playing with the equipment and
we got comfortable.
We got all that set up and we
started playing with the
equipment yep we recorded a
couple of podcasts before we
even had, like, our computer
platform and all of that, oh,
yeah, yeah yeah, set up, and so
we didn't really even have a
place to send our recordings.
We just did it because we were
playing with the equipment and
getting used to it.
Speaker 1: Yep agreed.
Speaker 2: And then from there
it inspired you to go on and
create our first platform.
Speaker 1: Yep agreed so then we
spent.
Speaker 2: I'll say we, because
you know we are we but, the
reality is is you spent
countless hours editing?
Oh yes, and figuring out how to
edit because that was a
learning curve and so hours on
hours.
They didn't do that in school
yeah, and I would sit here and I
would watch you, and we'd
listen to it, and I would watch
you edit this piece out and edit
that piece out and I would say
oh, you know what, can we get
rid of that little section?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It sounds better if
you do that, and we would spend
hours and hours and hours doing
that, but that's just what we
did at the time.
Yeah, I don't think people
understand what goes into a
podcast man, some of this stuff
is really editing of course.
Speaker 1: I heard nowadays ai
is doing a lot of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have an
individual now that we hired and
she's amazing, and but but two,
even that we did it ourselves
for a good long while yeah and
then brought that person into
our reality and we were like hey
, we need some help hey, can you
do this?
We're staying up till like
midnight one o'clock editing and
you know, we do podcasts, we do
one every wednesday, we do a
podcast saturdays at time we
were actually doing two or three
, yeah, every single week plus
editing all of that, and had we
looked at that, on the big
scheme of things we could have
become overwhelmed.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally and
quit.
Speaker 2: And so what I'm
trying to convey to everybody is
break it down into small little
pieces and just follow the next
interesting thing, and don't
have an insistence on what it
looks like.
There was nothing, you know, in
the beginning with our podcast.
We had not even come to a place
yet where we decided that we
were going to upload these guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact,
there's some I think, there's
one or two in there that we'd
never even uploaded.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had like 14.
Speaker 2: Because they're, you
know, they're kind of out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And not only that,
but they're kind of a hot mess
or what we view as a hot mess.
But that's what I would say is,
when you think about changing
your reality and doing something
far-fetched, so to speak, or
way far out there, don't look at
the whole big picture.
Take one little baby step and
do that.
I agree, even if it's just
research and read about whatever
.
Just take that baby step.
And be open to it, and then the
momentum will begin to build,
because you'll take that step
and be open to it, and then the
the momentum will begin to build
.
Yeah, because you'll take that
step and and sometimes just
reading about that portion of it
gives you the confidence to
take the next step.
Agreed, and the energy builds
and then you take the next step
and you're like you know what,
let me go buy the equipment,
because I have an extra 20 bucks
.
I can go buy whatever, yeah,
whatever it is, you know, take
that next baby step.
Speaker 1: Yeah, take the step.
I agree, totally agree with you
.
Speaker 2: Even like with the
writing of the book.
Speaker 1: What could?
Speaker 2: hurt the components
of it.
At first I started with free
versions of different things and
platforms that helped me do
grammar check and helped me do
the vocabulary, part of it, and
now I just send it over to our
editor and she does it for me.
It's quite awesome.
It is, it is amazing.
Speaker 1: It's fun, but anyway,
let the flow go.
It's really about the flow of
energy and just allowing it to
be.
Anybody can be anything that
they allow themselves to be.
Speaker 2: As long as you give
yourself permission to do it,
only the amount of road in front
of you that the lights the
headlights illuminate.
Speaker 1: 50 feet, 50 to 100
feet.
Yeah.
Speaker 2: You're literally
driving 50 foot at a time.
Speaker 1: That's a good analogy
.
Speaker 2: And so if you can
take your life and break it down
like that, what's the next 50
feet?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What's the next 50
feet and stop trying to look
past your headlights.
Speaker 1: Like it.
Speaker 2: Stay within that
headlight realm and do the next
best thing, and the next best
thing Like it, which brings us
back to live in the now.
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 2: that I need to do
right now.
Even if life feels chaotic and
it feels fight or flight and you
have a problem in front of you
that you've got to deal with,
stop and ask yourself okay, you
know what, Take a calm breath.
What is it that I need?
What's the next best thing that
I need to do?
What is it that I need to do
right this minute?
Speaker 1: Yep, like it and then
do it.
Speaker 2: And then do it, and
next thing you know you look up
and you're doing it, and then do
it, and then do it.
And next thing, you know you
look up and you're doing it, yep
, and you're a published author.
Speaker 1: Look at me.
Am I doing it?
I'm doing it or you've reached
500 downloads on your podcast.
Yep.
Speaker 2: And you look back and
you say yeah, I followed the
steps, one step at a time.
And here we are.
Nice Love it and you become
that what you daydreamed about.
And it's fun, and you're doing
it and it's amazing.
Speaker 1: It's a fun way to do
it.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: I feel complete.
Do you feel complete?
Speaker 2: I always feel
complete.
Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate
you guys for listening.
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.
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And it's not just a sales book.
You can use it for everyday
relationships.
Speaker 2: That's right, and
stop holding yourselves back Yep
.
Speaker 1: Don't hold yourself
back anymore.
Realize your abilities.
Speaker 2: Somebody out there is
waiting for what you have to
offer.
Speaker 1: That's correct, hey,
uh, don't forget to ring that
bell.
We hope y'all have an awesome
day.
Speaker 2: Love you.
We'll see you next time.