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Speaker 1: Thank you, welcome
back to the.
Spirits Will Grind with Dr
Jenny and James.
We are here today to spank our
monkey.
Speaker 2: Wow, hello, good
morning.
Good morning, dr Jenny.
Speaker 1: We're going to spank
our monkey today on a podcast.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, all right
then.
Speaker 1: You know, what we're
referring to is what we call the
monkey mind.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: The monkey mind is
kind of a negative.
Well, not really a negative,
it's just a response to a
current belief system that
you're operating based off an
emotional response or an
experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
So I came up with the
terminology because it's a fun
way to refer to it as I try to
come up with childlike
terminology.
And monkey mind to me is in my
mind.
I've got this monkey just kind
of bouncing around doing dumb
shit in my head Monkey mind.
Speaker 1: What was that?
There was a show out where the
guy had the two angels.
He had the good angel on one
shoulder and the bad angel on
the other.
What was that show?
I don't remember, where the bad
angel would get in his ear and
be like, hey, you should do this
, it's really going to be fun.
That's kind of the monkey mind,
isn't it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, and it's
a pretty deep topic.
Saddle up, let's go for a ride,
let's go for a ride.
Speaker 1: So the monkey mind
comes to fruition.
We're kind of coming off of the
of the simplified energy
podcast, where we talked about
identifying energy and
especially for those empaths
that are out there that don't
understand why they have an
emotional response to an energy
they have picked up from others,
and the monkey mind is part of
that process I think it's also
not just for empaths.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's, for
everybody, it's for everybody,
because there's things that go
on in everybody's world and they
don't understand where it's
coming from or why, and that's
what we're here to help figure
out.
Speaker 1: So basically, my
monkey mind how I describe it
would be when something comes up
that's uncomfortable, it's that
worst case story that gets
built in your head.
It's like oh my God, this is
going to happen, this is going
to happen, oh my God, this is
going to happen.
And that is a monkey mind
response.
The main example I can think of
is you're at work and your boss
is coming and you don't like it
.
That's a monkey mind response
of oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's go
doctor on you for a minute.
Speaker 1: Okay, doctor.
Speaker 2: This is a good
opportunity to really give it a
definition.
So life really has no meaning.
Speaker 1: What.
Speaker 2: Where's the little
sound effects that you do?
Speaker 1: What do you want me
to?
Oh, is that a Dun dun dun.
Speaker 2: You don't have one of
those buttons.
Speaker 1: Apparently, I don't.
Let's see, would it be this one
?
Speaker 2: Oh God, we need a
button modification, Is it this?
Speaker 1: one Life has no
meaning.
Speaker 2: Life really has no
meaning.
And let me explain.
If you're sitting out at the
mall, which we like to do we
like to sit at the mall, james
likes to look at the aura.
I like to see how they feel.
We we just play little games
like that.
But if a complete stranger
walks by, you don't know them
from adam, they don't know you
from adam.
They walk up to you and they
say your shoes are ugly.
It doesn't mean anything until
you put meaning to it and you're
like okay, well, thanks for the
information.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you
coming.
You just throwing negative
energy at me for absolutely no
reason.
Speaker 2: That still is giving
it meaning, correct?
Yeah Well, you don't know them
and you're like, wow, that's
weird, why did that happen?
Or you just shun it off and you
move on because it has no
meaning happen, or you just shun
it off and you move on because
it has no meaning.
We, as individuals, give every
second microsecond of the day
the meaning to life, as we see
it, as we perceive it.
So to take that one step
further, your perception is made
up of how the story you're
writing in your monkey mind is
through your boss.
It could be that you've told
yourself a story that is not
altogether accurate, because in
the past you've had experiences
where you go to a meeting with
your boss and you're getting in
trouble for something.
Yes, well, if you're still
hanging on to that experience,
you might be telling yourself a
story of okay, when you get
called to the principal's office
.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get in
so much trouble.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get in
trouble.
It's not going to be a good
experience.
It's not going to be pleasant.
That's you telling a story that
is, let's go heavy, it's a lie.
It's literally your monkey mind
telling you a lie.
It may not even be true, there
may be nothing about that.
That's true, but you've created
that story or that perspective
about the situation that's about
to happen.
Speaker 1: And you don't even
know because it's in the future.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your monkey
mind creates stories in the
future.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could go
into this meeting and your boss
is wanting to have a positive
conversation of you.
Could go into this meeting and
your boss is wanting to have a
positive conversation of you.
Know, I really enjoyed this, or
I like what you're doing with
things you have no idea, and so
staying in that moment of okay,
this really has no meaning, and
am I giving it a positive
meaning or a negative meaning
based on my previous experiences
?
So that brings me to.
There's a little sign on a
chalkboard that we look at every
day when we do these podcasts
and it says don't let yesterday
use up too much of today.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Yes, because you're remembering
things and you experience them
again and you'll bring them
right back into the forefront.
Speaker 2: Right.
I mean, if you're looking at
things from that viewpoint of
what happened in the past,
yesterday and telling a story in
your head monkey, mind that
it's going to go the exact same
way, then you're just
perpetuating that energy.
Speaker 1: Well, it's the same
way too.
I think the monkey mind applies
to a lot of things including
not just work.
Speaker 2: It also includes
relationships, friendships,
every aspect of the life of Pi I
call it the life of Pi because
it's all segregated into
different topics Understood, and
it does.
It applies to every single bit
of it To your partner.
If you perceive that your
partner is going to behave a
certain way because of past
events, then you don't give that
partner the opportunity to act
any differently, the freedom to
Right.
Yeah, because you've already
decided in your not true story
that he's going to act in a
certain way when this event
comes up.
Going to act in a certain way
when this event comes up, and so
you've already set in motion
the energy and the behaviors
behind how you're going to react
or respond, not giving him
space to react or respond
differently, because you already
set the tone Right, yeah.
Speaker 1: And so the monkey
mind creates a perceived story
that's in the future that this
is going to happen, and we
really don't know that it's
going to happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then
subconsciously starts to act and
behave on that.
Speaker 1: My perception of the
monkey mind is kind of a really
unfair perception, because my
monkey mind creates stories that
expects other people to do
certain things and I mean it can
be multifaceted.
I've got to do this, this
person's going to do that, that
person's going to do this, and
then it creates this big story,
all based off previous
experiences.
Speaker 2: That you're telling
in your head.
Speaker 1: That I'm telling in
my head, correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
So if you could get to a place
where you kind of go neutral in
your mind and spank the monkey,
Spank the monkey.
Speaker 1: That's how I get rid
of my monkey mind.
Speaker 2: Whatever technique
you need to use to put that
monkey mind at bay.
I sometimes have to tie mine to
a chair and put duct tape over
its mouth in the corner,
visualizing that I do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: James most of the
time likes to beat the shit out
of his.
Speaker 1: No, I'll just yank
him up by his hand and paddle
his butt, tell him to go hide
and he runs off into the trees.
Speaker 2: Or sometimes give it
a banana.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and sometimes,
when they do good monkey mind
stuff, you can give them a
banana, because sometimes the
monkey mind is an intuition.
Yeah, and identifying the
differences is where the belief
system comes in.
If it's been a previous
experience that the monkey mind
is giving you a perception of a
story in the future, then
intuition is not in play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a good
idea, though, to be careful not
to intertwine that.
Yes, kind of like when we were
talking about energy, the other
person's energy frequency and
yours being able to identify
those separate and apart from so
, if you give your intuitional
inserts of information the same
title as you give your human
inserts, it will confuse you if
you're not careful.
So you want to call the monkey
mind, the nonsense or the trash
that's being made up, and then
your higher self or intuitive
information that comes in.
It really needs to have its own
categorical topic name.
Speaker 1: Right.
You know there's a saying out
there that says be careful what
you look for because you're
going to find it.
There's a saying out there that
says be careful what you look
for, because you're going to
find it.
That's where a lot of people
get confused about intuition and
monkey mind.
They have a monkey mind thought
process.
I've seen it a lot in growing
up and coming through life.
I've had friends like.
I had a secretary at work one
time.
She was all worried that her
husband was cheating on her.
I knew her husband.
I knew her husband really well.
He was not cheating on her, but
she would go through his phone.
She would, you know, she would
go check up on him at work.
She would do all sorts of
things that created an energy,
that actually created the
environment, because her monkey
mind was saying, oh, he's going
to cheat on me because of her
insecurities from her previous
relationship.
Her boyfriend did cheat on her.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're going
to lovingly I love you so much.
We're going to lovingly.
We're going to rephrase that
just a bit, because that trigger
alert don't you have like an
ambulance thing or something?
Trigger alert.
No, I don't ambulance thing or
something trigger alert?
No, I don't, because what what
I just saw happen is is that you
just pet the cat the the wrong
way and okay you've allowed a
lot of people out there to get
upset that you justified him
cheating because she did
whatever she did to make that
happen.
Speaker 1: So let's clarify.
Okay, clarify, doctor.
Speaker 2: Let's ease that up
just a little bit, because when
you're talking about a
relationship, first of all you
have two people in this play and
it doesn't mean that what she
did directly caused him to do
what he did Correct.
He still had choices in it and
he still made choices within it.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 2: And so by no means do
we say she needs to own every
aspect of that behavior.
And what he did Correct, I
agree.
So then, what are we saying
exactly?
Speaker 1: I brought it to the
forefront of how people do
things.
Speaker 2: Wow, you know what?
Just go right Zero to 60.
Let's just take this in a
difficult place.
Speaker 1: I just brought it in
to a different level because
that's how a lot of people think
in the spiritual world is I
created this environment?
Why is this happening to me?
And the monkey mind is what's
creating that thought process.
Do you understand where I was
going with that?
I do, but I want to make sure
that they, that they do that
they do so basically what I was
trying to the point I was trying
to get to was is we have a
tendency to believe because
we're so taught in the world
that we live in and the people
that listen to this podcast
probably live in the same world
that we do and they know that
what we put out we get back.
We create our own environment.
So when they have these monkey
mind thoughts that are perceived
as real, they will create this
world where they blame
themselves for their monkey mind
.
Okay, and they think they
created that because I've seen
it, I've seen it, we, you know,
we've actually experienced it a
little bit where I stop and say
why did I create this?
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And, in reality, I
didn't create it.
It was a direct response, based
off the energy of my monkey
mind, that two people were
operating within this energetic
dimension, so to speak, that
they have played their part of a
play.
We're going deep, folks, we're
going real deep.
Speaker 2: Well, your bridge is
legs up.
Speaker 1: And that part of that
play plays itself out similar
to the monkey mind.
And so we become to where we
blame ourselves for our monkey
mind.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen,
get your carrots out.
We're going down a rabbit hole.
So again, I lovingly agree to
disagree.
Okay, you still create that
reality for yourself.
Speaker 1: Agree.
I don't know what's going on
today, but she's disagreeing
with everything I'm saying.
Maybe I should just cancel this
podcast and go golfing, or
something.
Speaker 2: Oh no, this is a
juicy hamburger.
You got juice from that big fat
piece of meat running down your
chin.
Speaker 1: This is juicy stuff,
man, juicy, juicy stuff.
Speaker 2: So we still create
our reality, right, 100%.
That's accountability.
We are creating it, but you
have another person and we'll go
relationship part of the pie.
As the husband and as the wife,
I'm creating my reality, you're
creating your reality and we
have to figure out how do we
create that reality together,
correct and understand and give
love and understanding to
knowing that the other person
has things they want to
experience, things they want to
explore for themselves
challenges that they haven't
overcome with and I know he is,
and I'm going to go look for the
believing seeing is believing
evidence to prove my monkey mind
to be correct correct that's
how you create a scenario that
could possibly help nudge that
person into doing some sort of
act that you don't necessarily
care for.
The other way would be, if you
have a contractual obligation
prior to coming into your human
meat suit which sometimes causes
meat sweats then as a soul self
, you created these themes that
you wanted to experience for
growth and evolution.
So if you have a contractual
obligation between you and that
person to experience in the play
of life a cheating scenario,
then that person is going to
follow through with their
inspired script.
Right, good word.
Good word In that because you
wanted to experience what it was
like to be on the receiving end
.
They wanted to receive.
Speaker 1: Rewind Editor.
Please cut that.
Speaker 2: We got to pay him
more money, man.
They wanted to experience what
it was like to be the receiver
and the doer Right.
Basically is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We're getting way off
topic here with monkey mind,
aren't we?
We're going way deep.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
I said grab your carrots, man.
This is a rabbit hole.
You have no idea, all right, so
bring it back around.
Speaker 1: Okay, so basically
what I was the, the where I was
going with it is the monkey mind
can create and rewrite scripts
and, like you just said, you
know everybody's playing a part
in this play, in this life, and,
be it contractual obligation,
be it a one-on-one energetic
exchange, the monkey mind will
create a story that's in the
future, based off your
experiences, and can rewrite
scripts of the play.
Speaker 2: That may not always
be true about the other person
or the other people that are
taking place in the play.
Speaker 1: That's correct.
Speaker 2: That's the point to
get to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right
and so identifying that monkey
mind perception, like when we
talked about in Simplified
Energy podcast about the impasse
at the stoplight you referred
to.
Why am I angry at the stoplight
?
And it tells a story like I'm
angry because I'm going to be
late for work or you think
you're going to be late for work
because this light has stopped.
That is a monkey mind story
because you don't really know
you're going to be late for work
unless you're truly already
late for work for all you know.
You could pass through a portal
and be at work in two seconds
wow, that's another deep talk
and uh well, we're, we're gonna,
we're gonna pass on that.
I just threw it out there.
But the monkey mind will create
the story of an emotion that's
based off, the story of the
empath is feeling their energy
of, and create this environment
to where you are actually
picking up an energy, and not
just empaths do this.
It can be spread.
It's kind of like a sneeze or a
yawn when somebody yawns in the
room, everybody in the room
yawns.
It's kind of the same thing.
It just gets passed along right
and the monkey mind creates a
story based off their emotions.
And identifying the monkey mind
is where we're trying to be at
today and how to control the
monkey mind.
And so how do you identify your
monkey mind?
Speaker 2: beginning.
So in the beginning, when I was
just still baby new, trying to
figure all this stuff out, how
did I define that story?
It was really just stopping
again and bringing it to the
awareness, not letting it live
in the subconscious.
That's the key to every single
aspect of it.
Letting it live in the
subconscious, that's the key to
every single aspect of it.
Realizing that, okay, wait a
minute, is this story that I am
telling?
Is there truth to it?
Is there verifiable,
documentable truth to the story
that I'm telling?
Or am I just making up a story
that I think is going to happen?
And so once I was able to have
that quick little conversation,
then I could logically say okay,
the story that I just told is.
There's no evidence that the
story is going that way.
So that tells me that it is my
monkey creating this story of
what I think is going to happen.
So I want to step away from
that story and I want to look at
the other side of the coin and
I want to say, okay, well, at
the same time, the story could
go like this, and we use the
example of going to the
principal's office or the boss's
office, dreading being called
into the office because….
Speaker 1: Ring, ring, ring ring
.
Speaker 2: Yes, Dr Ginny can you
please come to my office,
please, mrs O'Wiggins.
Speaker 1: Mrs O'Wiggins.
Speaker 2: Can I?
And so you create this, mikey,
my story of oh my God, I'm in
trouble, what did I do?
And you're scanning, scanning
scanning as you walk to the
office, right, but at the same
time stopping and saying, okay,
wait a minute, I am creating a
story about an event that's
about to happen, and is it true,
right?
Is that true?
Other side of the coin, no,
there's nothing that is in play
that makes that story true, so
that's monkey mind.
Speaker 1: Right, that's where
you look back and haven't
identified any stories that
actually validate the monkey
mind thoughts.
Speaker 2: And that's how I had
to do it in the beginning.
I had to go very logical with
it.
Now, advanced teaching I
learned to start to feel the
frequency or the vibration of
the different thoughts, of the
higher self thoughts that were
coming in the monkey mind,
thoughts Not perfect at it still
catches me sometimes, but I do
catch it.
That's the key.
And I will talk to what I call
my human, which is my husband
aka my husband.
That's me.
What I call my human, which is
my husband aka my husband,
that's me.
And I'll go to him and I'll say
listen, I'm having this weird
scenario.
Go on, can you check in for me?
It feels monkey mind, but I'm
having a hard time untangling
the frequency.
So it still is a practice this
many years later, and practice
makes perfect.
Speaker 1: You know I do mine a
little differently when I have
monkey mind thoughts that come
in and tell me these stories
like ring, ring, ring ring.
Hey James, can you come to my
office please?
And as I'm walking to the
office, all these stories fly
into your head and you like my
ring ring.
Speaker 2: I was envisioning
that the monkey was calling you.
Yeah, mayday, we're out of
bananas down here.
It's an emergency.
Speaker 1: It's an emergency and
as you walk into the office and
your boss has called you and
you get all these thoughts of oh
my God, what did I do?
You start running through your
Rolodex of things you could have
done wrong instead of the
Rolodex of things you could have
done right that's right.
Instead of the Rolodex of
things you could have done right
, that's right.
And when you start looking for
things that's negative and
there's no experience based on
it in the history, it's probably
monkey mind.
If you can't relate an
experience based off that
thought process and after you've
identified, why am I having
this story?
Because you just said it right,
it's bringing a.
You want to bring the
subconscious thought to the
conscious awareness, yeah, and
so, oh my gosh, I forgot to
return this report in on time,
or I forgot to do all this.
And when you stop and say wait
a minute though I've never
returned my report in late
You're identifying that that's
probably a monkey mind thought
and you have to stop and release
that or stop it.
Like I imagine me picking my
monkey up and spanking his butt
and sending him to the trees.
And however you want to spank
your monkey mind is kind of up
to you, but releasing it.
Speaker 2: My monkey is a
spoiled brat.
Oh yeah yeah, he gets to sit in
a chair in the corner and eat
bananas or play the Game Boy or
distract him.
Listen, dude, I'll pay 50 bucks
if you'll sit in this chair in
the corner and shut up for a
minute.
Speaker 1: Play your video games
.
Go to your room and play your
video games, and so the monkey
mind experience can be large.
I mean it can create some vivid
stories, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know
the key.
The next key to it is is how is
it making you feel Right?
Because, remember, in the other
podcast we talked about using
your feelings as a gauge,
because the universe doesn't
have ears.
It's not listening to the words
you're saying.
It's feeling the energy that
you're putting out.
Right, it's not listening to the
words you're saying, it's
feeling, the energy that you're
putting out.
And so if your monkey mind has
created a story and that makes
you feel fearful, anxious,
nervous, and you don't figure
out a way to feel better before
you go in that boss's office,
the universe says okay, this is
how you feel.
Here's another heaping spoonful
of that.
And so, then, that interaction
with the boss goes in that
direction.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and I
think for me the monkey mind can
be fun to play with actually at
times.
Speaker 2: Of course, that's
what this is all about.
Speaker 1: You know, when you
get a monkey mind that you can't
identify, but it's man.
This story is huge and you have
told me many times well, create
the story bigger.
Speaker 2: Right, right.
Speaker 1: Take it beyond and
then see if it takes away the
power of that monkey mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right History.
Speaker 1: Right.
So, oh my gosh, I'm going to
get in trouble for not turning
in a report when really, oh my
God, I got caught stealing.
She knows I'm sleeping with her
secretary, you know, or
whatever that is.
You just make the story worse,
make it worse in your mind.
And now the little story that
monkey mind's telling you is
pretty small, exactly.
Take away its power, that's
right.
Speaker 2: Tell the story in the
worst case scenario.
Give yourself an opportunity to
realize that you can survive
the worst story.
You can possibly come up Then
it has no power because you've
come up with resources and
things in place that say you
know what, I am okay, I am safe
and everything is always working
out for me.
And I got this.
Speaker 1: Hello everyone, thank
you for listening today.
We had to break this podcast up
into two parts because it was
so long, and I hope you enjoyed
part one of Spank your Monkey
and stay tuned for part two.
We'll see you next time.