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Speaker 1: Thank you.
Good morning, Dr.
Jenny.
Speaker 2: Good morning.
Speaker 1: How are you this
morning?
Speaker 2: I'm good.
Speaker 1: Oh, you know why
we're having a podcast today.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Because we're going
to give people hope.
We're going to give them hope.
Oh no, you don't want to give
it away.
Speaker 2: I didn't bring any
with me.
Speaker 1: Oh, you don't carry a
bag full around.
Speaker 2: I didn't bring that
particular briefcase to work
today.
Speaker 1: Oh no.
What are we going to do now?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you all
for listening.
Have a good, just kidding, well
.
No, the topic of my podcast
topic today is more about wait,
can you say?
Speaker 2: topic one more time.
Speaker 1: Topic I'm a topic,
topic I don't know.
Topic Anyway, I I want to make
sure that everybody understands
that when you're going through
spiritual awakening and
ascension and changing your
vibrational standard, sometimes
you bump up against things that
can be tough to handle and just
know that you're going through
these things for a reason and
that you are aligning with your
higher self when humanly you may
be feeling emotional about it
or upset about it, but on the
other side of that is greater
expansion.
Of course, and and I think the
whole part of that is where some
people get confused.
Like you know, we have
depression, we have all these
things out there where people
get bothered by things and and
they get depressed or down on
themselves.
And the reality is, is this
real life, this life situation
right now is 100% just a stage?
You know, the Bible says this
too shall pass, and there is a
lot of truth to that statement.
It will all pass, it will all
move on once you figure out
what's holding you in that spot.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean yeah,
because essentially, in the
rabbit hole form of things, this
is just a dream.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: Your spirit is
basically having a dream.
Speaker 1: There's lots of
parameters that go into all of
this, lots of things that feed
into your vibrational frequency,
your human actions, your
beliefs, your patterns and
programs.
And when you come up against
something that is a tough one,
you know it can be daunting of a
task and it can put us into
that human spot of despair which
, on the emotional guidance
system ladder, is like the
bottom of the bucket.
Speaker 2: And so very, very low
energy.
Speaker 1: And so when you're in
that spot, you have to stop and
say, oh, this is bad as it gets
, because you're in despair
already, right, and so it's the
worst.
And you know you said it one
day in a podcast that getting
angry about something is
actually a higher level of
vibration than despair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we've
been taught that being angry is
a bad thing and you shouldn't do
it.
I agree, and in reality the
anger is higher up on the
emotional level scale and it's
actually a good thing because
you've come from the lower level
vibration to a higher level
frequency and that then is going
to take you to the next level.
That's above that, if you can
think about it from a, you know,
one to 10 scale, one being
despair is a good word, one
being despair is a good word and
joy and bliss being 10 and
angers, you know, somewhere in
between the middle or third or
the way up, you've just
basically step, stoned yourself
up to higher frequency by being
angry yeah, you ascend to do.
Just don't hang out there.
Speaker 1: Right.
Keep on going up the ladder.
Speaker 2: Right, work on the,
the whatever's coming up for you
, and as you release the beliefs
, patterns, programs around it,
you'll naturally ascend up that
emotional scale.
Speaker 1: Agreed, agreed,
agreed.
You know the the part of it
that or?
Well, you know there's a.
There's a specific thing.
I'm currently doing this
seminar on the power of thought,
and one of the people in this
seminar asked about why do I get
mad at myself when I have a
health problem come up, or why
do I get, um, disappointed or
confused?
And and my response to that was
is well, I guess you could be
totally without hope in it.
And she was like oh, I said,
because to have anger, you have
to have hope that there's
something mad and something
better.
And you're just mad, that it's.
The hope is not revealed itself
yet.
And and so I kind of
identifying that for people to
make sure they understand that
when you are in your worst spot,
that is your worst spot, it
don't get any worse.
And so, and if you stop and
look, and, and what gives you
hope is the realizing that the
Ascension on the other side of
it is there.
Speaker 2: Yeah that, that
should be exciting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
And then, which goes up the
ladder of your emotional ladder?
Speaker 2: which, if you can get
to a place where you're
nonjudgmental of the emotions
and just accepting of them as
you climb that ladder, and even
then go to a higher school of
thought, if you will that when
you are excited about having an
emotion on the lower end of the
scale, because you know that on
the other side of that is a
higher frequency yeah, and
completeness right, yeah you
know that feeling of okay, I
feel complete, yeah because it
feels good.
it feels good to go from despair
to anger, and so you know we
talk about a lot finding the
better feeling place in every
given moment, and sometimes, on
some topics that are very heavy
and very challenging, and you
are in that place of being at
the bottom of the bucket.
The only place you can go to
get to a better feeling place is
anger, and anger does feel
better than the hopelessness and
the despair.
And so giving back the value in
a positive form to that emotion
called anger, instead of it
just kind of continuing to carry
this negative connotation, is
probably something that we would
all benefit from yeah, you know
, they say that there's the.
I've heard in some religious
practices that you know the
golden gates now, and don't get
me wrong, I'm not saying that
you have to go out and act on
that anger outwardly.
Yeah, you shouldn't, because
that will definitely get you in
trouble.
If you're living on the
three-dimensional earth that has
the constructs in place where
it's not legal necessarily to go
shoot someone or mess up their
property or whatever, you still
have to live within the confines
of that, but definitely in your
own private space, allowing
that anger to be.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you just
opened that door because that is
a it's a great place.
To add in to this part is
having emotions as part of a
personal journey that you should
not project on anybody else.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: And when you have
emotions on it, like especially
the negative vibration ones.
Now, when you're happy about
something, yeah, share it.
Share with the world, tell
everybody, yeah, yeah, this
happened to me.
You know you want to build that
energy.
Now, when it comes to the
negative side, the lower half,
the five and below, I think, on
the emotional ladder Isn't that
a store.
Five below it is yeah, maybe
they should sponsor us anyway.
Uh, the the uh part of that is
remembering that emotionally,
emotional based decisions that
create actions have consequences
well, I mean all actions have
consequences.
Speaker 2: That's another word
that would be beneficial to give
it a positive and negative
meaning.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, because
there's positive consequences
as well, I agree.
Speaker 2: I digress, I'll let
you continue.
Speaker 1: And so when we do
have that, you know, because I
call it a 10-step emotional
ladder, which I'm actually I'll
put it on the website once I get
it all written up this week.
Because Jenny didn't, dr Jenny
didn't know this, this, but
she's going to create it for my
power of thought school this
week.
Oh, wow, okay, and that, uh,
that emotional ladder, we'll put
it up on the website so you can
see it under.
We'll, I'll, uh, I'll have our
internet person create a plot
spot that says forms so you can
see it by the way, she is and
the the consequences behind the
one through five.
Part of that, I think, is which
is half of it.
I call it a one to ten scale
and so if you take the negative
side and you create actions
based off your emotional
responses towards anything other
than keeping it internal, can
create a domino effect of issues
and, like you know, when you
get in a fight with your loved
one.
Speaker 2: It can definitely
create a whole subcategory of
emotions that will come with it.
Speaker 1: Correct, yeah, and
sometimes even beliefs and
habits.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: You know, because how
many times have you heard
people say I mean, I got mad and
said this and I wish I hadn't.
I didn't mean it.
Speaker 2: Right, that's regret,
that's regret.
Speaker 1: That's regret and
which is on the emotional, on
the emotional ladder, which I
think is a little above angry.
But when you create, because to
have regret you have to have
you, to have regret, you have to
have conscious awareness of
what you did was wrong- yeah,
Regret, you have to have
conscious awareness of what you
did was wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so regret
actually technically and, like I
said, I'll get the download for
it and put it on.
But regret actually, I believe,
has a frequency a little bit
lower than anger.
Speaker 1: Okay, the point of it
that I want to make is, when
you're working on that lower
level vibration with your
emotional responses, just know
that the positivity behind it is
is you always climb the ladder.
Speaker 2: As humans, we by
nature climb the ladder yeah,
because by nature that mechanism
is designed to find the better
feeling place in every given
moment yeah, yeah, that's
correct.
Speaker 1: You know, in the
power of thought school we were,
we went over the levels of
consciousness.
And you know I don't know if
you know this or not, being a
hypnotist you probably do but
you know they discovered another
level of consciousness called
the gamma level.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And the gamma level
is kind of a combination of the
theta and the alpha Right of a
combination of the theta and the
alpha, and what they have
discovered is that the gamma
level is a level of
consciousness that your
subconscious mind creates
conscious actions.
And when we are in that spot of
emotional guidance system, our
subconscious base of our belief
will create actions.
And we have to be aware enough
of our reality to know that just
because our subconscious mind
thinks that it's okay to go stab
your boyfriend's tires and let
all the air out doesn't mean
your conscious mind doesn't and
your human experience wants it.
And so that is kind of a
response area for conscious
awareness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so to break
it down into more elementary
type terminology, it could be,
it could be labeled as almost a
form of instinct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's
instinctual, and that's what
they're saying about the gamma
level, because I've been a lot
of reading on it this last week.
Speaker 2: The instincts that
are ingrained in us and that are
taught to us, but then also the
instincts that our physical
body has in play, live in that
gamma right realm and so they're
breathing when you're asleep,
um, it would be very tiresome to
have to wake up and breathe
yeah, we just saw that somewhere
, that one of the one l the
dolphins.
Speaker 1: They wake up every
couple of minutes underwater
while they're asleep, just to
breathe.
Speaker 2: Right, they actually
only let half of their brain
sleep at a time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they shut
the other eye.
Speaker 2: So the other half can
stay awake and breathe.
Speaker 1: That's kind of crazy
that we're there.
Speaker 2: That much it is.
It's how intelligent they are,
yeah.
Speaker 1: But the takeaway from
this is understanding.
One of the examples I read
about the gamma level of
consciousness was a gentleman
was driving down the road and a
car pulls out in front of him
and he instinctually swerves to
avoid the accident.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the lady in the
passenger seat of his car said I
would have never done that.
And so understanding that this
gentleman has the ability to put
itself into a gamma
consciousness without thinking
about it and this woman doesn't,
is just practice in trusting
your instinct.
Well, is just practice in
trusting your instinct?
Speaker 2: Well, it's definitely
understanding the mechanism of
the belief.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because she does have
the ability.
She just thinks she doesn't.
Speaker 1: Right, because it's
lack of information, that's
correct.
Speaker 2: We all have the
ability and we all do it because
, like I said, breathing is a
prime example.
Speaker 1: On a dental level,
right Breathing, is that prime?
Speaker 2: example, no adult
level right Breathing.
Is that instinctual?
Speaker 1: gamma.
No, it's the beta level, beta
level.
Speaker 2: Breathing?
Is that instinctual gamma level
?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You're built with
that instinct to continue to
breathe and not have to think
about it.
You don't have to think.
You're not like a vampire where
you say, okay, breathe, so you
look normal and human-like.
Speaker 1: So the most
interesting part of that that I
was reading was that they
started testing literally a
four-day-old child, and that
four-day-old child actually had
every level of consciousness
that they could record, because
they had figured out how to
measure it through frequency and
the gamma levels at 9.5 to 11.4
hertz right and the beta level
which used to be thought to be.
It was it's like 6.9 to 8,
something on the hertz level was
the level of unconscious
thought, where your body, your
heart beats, you breathe, you
open your, you blink your eyes,
those unconscious, involuntary
muscle actions, and now they're
moving it into the gamma level.
Right, but understanding all
this stuff is I kind of I kind
of detoured a little bit on the
topic here but understanding
these different levels because I
want to make sure everybody
understands that you put
yourself in hypnosis, states of
hypnosis throughout the day,
every single day.
Of course, when you are
meditating, when you're watching
TV, when you're driving, you
put yourself on different levels
of consciousness and you don't
even realize you're doing it
Right.
And when you put yourself into
a emotional response system that
creates that level of hypnosis
you know being level of
consciousness where you've done
it to yourself, you have to
realize that the hope on the
other side of it is what helps
control the emotional response
within you, even though your
mind is saying go, do this you.
You have to have that ability
to say okay wait a minute.
That's not the right thing to do
at this time.
Speaker 2: As far as physical
actions, yes, Correct yeah.
But as far as allowing yourself
to have those emotions, you
definitely don't want to put the
brakes on that.
You definitely don't want to
pump the brakes on having the
emotion.
You want to pump the brakes if
you're wanting to act upon that
anger in such a way that will
cause you not to live within the
confines of the laws that you
have agreed to play in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
I agree, Owning your emotions
is okay to play in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I
agree, owning your emotions is
okay.
You know, on this planet,
whether you're currently
existing on the
three-dimensional realm or four
or five, because those are all
very prominent and going on, on
each one of those Earths, earths
there is an underlying um, I
guess set of rules that you've
agreed to abide by yeah, like
the laws of the government, the
laws of the whatever, and acting
upon that, anger against those
laws, will bring about
definitely a challenging journey
that will bring you to a place
of evolution.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It just might not be
the most pleasant way to go
about it.
Speaker 1: You know I was
reading on that gamma level
stuff and they're comparing it
to the alpha level that we put
ourselves into.
Wait a minute, is it theta
Theta level that we put
ourselves into ourselves, into
women?
Is theta theta level that we
put ourselves into?
Because the gamma level and how
they?
On the description that the guy
gave on this, on what I was
reading, so the theta is a very
deep level.
That I, maybe it was beta into
when I hypnotize you and so beta
.
Speaker 2: And so the alpha and
the beta are the initial levels.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Alpha is what we walk
around in pretty much the
majority of the day, beta is.
Speaker 1: When you watch a TV
and stuff.
Yeah, when you're driving when
you're.
And so what the description on
there was, comparing gamma to
beta.
Let me clarify, because in the
example they gave on it was is
you take a martial arts expert?
yeah and he is a third degree
black belt, yada, yada, yada.
And then you bring in somebody
that has that is new at it, but
still a black belt.
The difference is the time span
by which they switch from alpha
to beta for the responses of
why the third degree black belt
wins, when this black belt over
here knows everything that this
guy knows.
Because black belt is black
belt, it's just.
The degrees are different
levels of reactions and, like
the so it was it was kind of
plain to see that the time span
as you become more practiced in
it is what makes you better at
it yeah, I mean, that's
definitely a rabbit hole topic
too, that's fun to explore,
because that's all time really
is.
Yeah.
Speaker 2: It gives us an
opportunity to experience the
steps within the process.
Ain't nobody got, I did that.
It feels so good, it feels
really good.
Right Is part of the enjoyment
in anything that you learn to do
or anything that you go through
and achieve.
So we put that time in place
for ourselves for that purpose.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know the
where the point I was getting to
is and why.
And then I know where our
podcast is about hope.
The reason why is because I
wanted to educate people.
Speaker 2: Who the heck is hope.
Speaker 1: Make people
understand that the gamma level
is the spot where you get angry
at, because it's an unconscious
response to a conscious matter.
Speaker 2: It can be.
When you practice it enough,
you can feel it coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah right.
Speaker 2: And you can
acknowledge its arrival, and
then you can sit with it and
marinate in its existence.
Speaker 1: And so I know this
may sound weird to say, but
where people can get hope at is
by going in their subconscious
mind and turning that little
dial up for a faster response
identifying the anger quicker,
identifying the depression
quicker, identifying the despair
quicker, so you can sit with it
quicker and get the hope out of
it, right, I mean, I think part
of that.
Speaker 2: So, if we dial it
down just a little bit, part of
that is, first of all, getting
to a place where you allow the
emotion to happen yes, only
emotion by by allowing it to
happen and not boxing it in or
keeping yourself from having the
emotion, regardless of what its
name is, is reminding you of
what the frequency of that
emotion is, because remembering
that the multiverse and
everything is based on frequency
.
So learning what the frequencies
, the different frequencies are
of things, is a very key
component to understanding our
entire existence, the multiverse
and everything, right?
So first being aware that
you're having the emotion and
allowing yourself to have it,
yeah, will open up a space of
learning.
Okay, what, what does that feel
like?
What does that frequency feel
like?
You don't even have to know
that you're in gamma, you don't
even have to know that anger
lives at a frequency of about 20
hertz.
You don't have to know those
details, just knowing what it
feels like in your body, because
each person's physical body is
going to exhibit that in a
certain way, because you've
created a certain language with
your own body and it's not going
to be the same for every single
person, like for me.
When I get intensely angry, I
tend to feel mine in my
digestive tract.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, like I'll
get kind of like an almost
heartburn burning sensation, and
sometimes it'll go into nausea,
depending on how deep the anger
is.
Yeah, but then other people may
experience it as a headache or
trembling or whatever.
And so, whatever your language
is that you've created with the
body, some people may not even
have any physical experiences
with it because they've boxed it
up for so long and ignored it
for so long.
Yeah, this anger, this is what
it feels like.
Then, once you know what it
feels like on a kind of like a
vibrational frequency level.
It will help you navigate the
rest of the emotions and
navigate that scale and then
from there the next step is is
you will get to a point where
you say you will get to a point
where you say, okay, you know
what that did make me angry.
I know that it made me angry,
but the positive and exciting
thing is I know that on the
other side of anger could be
frustration or could be
neutrality.
Speaker 1: And from there I know
that I'm going to go into a
place of peace.
Yes, happiness.
You know the joy, the the
really cool part about all this
is through my studies, through.
It is how they're measuring
emotional wavelengths in the
brain.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, it's so
funny that you bring this up,
because Because that was what I
was reading this morning the
oscillating frequencies.
Speaker 1: Of the emotions.
Speaker 2: That was well, just
of energy, and then it tied it
into emotions and the doctor
that created that chart back in
the 1800s.
In 1880, dr David wish I could
call his last name actually
started exploring what hurts the
emotions were on, and so even
back then they were beginning to
explore that and identify that
each of those emotions holds a
frequency oh, yeah, I know that
and they do.
Speaker 1: It's actually you can
read it now scientific,
scientifically, they have
studied it through the eegs and
yeah and those things, to where
it actually marries into the
areas of the levels of
consciousness right, and then I.
Speaker 2: And then from there
what happens is you'll start to
notice that when you're in an
emotional frequency, you'll see
the people around you change.
You will see like if you're in
a conversation and it gets
heated and you immediately go
into anger.
You can see the interaction
escalate.
But, then, if you're aware that
you're getting angry and you're
putting that energy out, you'll
get to a place where you can
catch yourself and say, oh, you
know what, this is taking the
conversation in a direction I
don't want to go, so let me
bring my own energy down.
Come to a calm place so I can
deescalate the situation.
Then you'll see the other
person, or people, begin to calm
and deescalate and the energy
of the room change.
Speaker 1: Yes, totally agree.
Speaker 2: That is something you
can definitely witness and play
with In the spiritual world, in
the fun world.
Speaker 1: We know that like
attracts, like Energy attracts
energy, everything attracts
energy, and so the example and
we're all connected.
And we're all connected.
I agree.
The part to identify within
that is the conversation I just
had in my class last week was is
if you take two magnets,
magnets have a positive side and
negative side.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And if you put the
two positive sides together,
what happens?
They pop together, they pop
right together and you take the
negative side to the positive
side and it'll throw it away.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And that's where
magnetic forces come to play.
Now you can take the two
negatives and put them together
and it will stick together.
But you can't put positive to
negative and negative to
positive.
It has to be negative to
negative or positive to positive
yeah and that's how you stack
magnets and when they, when you
are in that vibrational
frequency of despair or anger or
whatever it is, your hope is in
the fact that you're going to
change from negative to positive
really soon as you move up the
ladder and then you're going to
start attracting more of that
positivity, because that's how
nature works.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: It's completely how
it works Like, for example, too
is what I'm learning, because
I'm just for the first time
experiencing the houseplant
things and I'm starting to grow
plants yeah, we're plant
parenthood.
Yeah, we're in plant parenthood
right now.
I've never been able to grow
anything other than weed, but we
are now in the….
Speaker 2: Disclaimer we don't
currently grow weed.
Speaker 1: No, no, I don't grow
weed.
How I grew it back then was I
dc we are good on that topic.
Moving on, we don't want the
dea part, but but the um, what
I've learned in that is you have
some plants that will grow well
with others and some that will
not grow well with others.
Yeah, and so will not grow well
with others yeah.
And so like, for example, I have
what I think they call it a
freckle plant.
I don't even really know their
names.
We give them names, but I don't
know what kind of plants they
are, we give them their own
names.
But the one I call the speckle
plant, because they have a green
leaf with a white speckle-y.
Look on them.
Yeah plant, because they have a
green leaf with a white speckle
leaf.
Look on them.
Yeah, and I call them speckle
plants.
It grows well with a tropical
plant, which is what I put in
there by nature.
I didn't even know that, I just
kind of did it right.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's
because, on a subconscious level
, when you're, when you're
humanly out of your way and
you're going along your day,
you're reading frequencies a
billion, trillion, gazillion,
giggle, zillion times a second.
Speaker 1: Gigatillion,
giggle-tillion.
Speaker 2: Giggle-tillion.
That's a lot.
It is a bunch.
And naturally, or air quote,
intuitively you will do things,
yeah, such as choosing the two
plants that will live very well
and complement each other.
Speaker 1: You're reading that,
that energy you know, I started
to put the blue flowerly plant
and with the other plants down
on the bottom left one, the red
ones, and when I was in the
process of doing it I was like,
yeah, no, that's not going to
work Right.
And then the lady that came and
looked at the plants for me
told me yeah, you can't put that
one with that one, because that
one will kill that one, it'll
choke it out.
Speaker 2: See, and that was
just you reading the energy of
that vibrationally.
Speaker 1: And that gave me hope
that I was doing it right.
Speaker 2: That you would be a
good plant parent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be a
good plant parent and not one
that just kills everything
You're doing so good.
They're actually doing well.
Speaker 2: They are.
They're doing very well.
We have two very large fellas
called Bo and Luke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one's a dragon
tree and one is a corn tree and
one is a corn tree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a corn,
something tree.
And they were adopted from the
plant orphanage.
Speaker 1: The orphanage at Ikea
.
Speaker 2: At Ikea.
Speaker 1: They were in the
clearance area and they were
dying.
Speaker 2: Well the funny story
is that we actually thought they
were fake.
Speaker 1: We did.
Speaker 2: We went in there to
get fake plants for our patio
when we redid our patio and I
think we talked about this in
the podcast, but now it's almost
like they're attached to each
other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you keep them
together or they don't like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like
whenever we try to put them in
different locations.
One Luke especially.
He's very attached to Bo.
And he gets very sad and droopy
if we separate them, which I
find very comical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is kind of
funny.
Speaker 2: Luke got a big
haircut yesterday.
He did.
Speaker 1: I had to over water
him a little bit and I think it
kind of put him in a shock and
the cold.
We left him outside and it was
cold.
Speaker 2: Well, he was quite
damaged when we got him.
Speaker 1: He did have a lot of
damage From his travels.
Yeah, he came with a suitcase
full of problems.
Speaker 2: He did, so we had to
lighten his load.
Speaker 1: But I think he's
doing.
He looks much perkier the last
two days.
Speaker 2: He looks better today
.
Speaker 1: He looks a lot better
, but anyway so the hope behind
it in our podcast is to
understand the levels of all
these stuff that goes on, and
especially the emotions stuff
that goes on in, especially the
emotions.
The, the emotional guidance
system is there for a reason and
you should own it and own the
emotion to come up with it and
understand that the hope behind
everything is you know, it's a
ladder, it goes up and as you
hit more things you may drop
back down a little bit.
Then you go up, you know, and
that's okay.
Your goal is to keep yourself
on the six and up.
Well, your goal is to the
yourself on the six and up.
Speaker 2: Well, your goal is to
the true goal, because we don't
want to get tangled up in
having an expectation that we've
got to stay in a high
vibrational state right, yeah, I
agree, yeah, because I
shouldn't have said it that way
the reality of it is we come
onto this earth for the
experiences of having the
emotions, so the true goal is
embracing that, every single
emotion on each and every topic
and experience has value,
because you came in wanting to
experience the reality that
you're creating at that moment.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: And so understanding
that you've created the reality
that you're experiencing and
that it is happening for you not
to you and that the emotions
will fluctuate based on the
experience that you chose to
have.
Because you wanted to
experience that emotion Agreed,
because you wanted to experience
that emotion Around that topic,
from that perspective, on that
degree of existence.
Speaker 1: So there's your hope
is knowing that you are the one
that created it and that you
have control of it, and so
you're in control of it.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's
right.
Speaker 1: And so the hope
within it is to understand that
I created this, I accept it and
now I'm going to move on from it
.
And that level by which it
gives you hope is that I created
this, so you're in control of
it.
Really, yeah, You're ultimately
in the control.
Speaker 2: You can choose to
continue to experience it yeah,
or you can choose to acknowledge
that.
Okay, you know what I
experienced it.
I'm complete with that.
I'm ready to put it on the
historical shelf in the
universal library and move on.
Yep, and then move on and don't
get caught up in a habitual
loop of continuing to
re-experience it if you don't
want to Right or don't dwell on
it unless you want to.
Right.
Speaker 1: And there's really no
, you know, in my opinion of it,
if it's on the bottom of the
ladder, there's no need to dwell
on any of it.
It's just know that the hope of
your hope is.
I created this, I experienced
it, I own it.
Speaker 2: Now, moving on, and
so let's briefly just visit some
techniques that can help get to
that, let's do it man.
Yeah.
So if you find that you keep
seeing or experiencing in your
reality a scenario that you're
not enjoying and you've come to
a place where you acknowledge,
okay, I see the contrast and I
am not enjoying it and I would
really look for it to change.
But then you go to bed, you
wake up and poof, the contrast
is still there and you're like
dang it.
I thought I, I thought I worked
on that belief or those beliefs
, damn it's still there.
Take an erasable marker and draw
over the Sharpie and then erase
it and it will magically
disappear.
Speaker 1: I know I was today
years old when I learned that I
was like what the heck it does
work?
Yeah, it does On any permanent
marker.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You can take a dry
erase marker and run it over top
of it and erase it, right,
maybe you wipe it off.
You have to wipe it off.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
So techniques that you can
utilize would be ask yourself
this question first of all and I
am a big, big believer in
writing it down until you get to
that point where you've
practiced your methods so
thoroughly that you don't have
to write things down anymore
what do I have to believe, what
do I continue to choose to
believe to be true in order for
this to keep appearing in my
reality, would be one question
you could ask.
Yes, another way you could ask
it, or an additional question
would be have I learned
everything that I wanted to
learn from having this
experience?
And then go through and list
what have you learned, identify
those on an aware state of mind,
agreed, and not just leave it
in the subconscious.
Really visit that and really
explore that and get honest and
clear on what did I learn from
that experience?
Yes, honest and clear on what
did I learn from that experience
, so that you can make a grocery
list, basically of um, getting
to know what.
What did you learn?
Because sometimes doing that
exercise by itself will bring
you to that place of oh, okay,
now that I've acknowledged and
really brought to the forefront
of my mind what I did learn from
it, positive and negative, then
that belief will dissolve
instantaneously.
Yes, and what I find for myself
is is, once I ask those two
questions, what works best for
me is the secondary question of
okay, what is it that I did
learn, what is it that I did
take away from that, and am I
finished with it?
And that belief just
instantaneously dissolves.
It's almost challenging to even
remember what the topic was.
Speaker 1: It happens to me a
lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost
hard to even retrieve it back.
Speaker 1: I knew I was upset
yesterday, but I don't know why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so that for
me, based on the language that
I've created within my process,
is the biggest indicator that,
okay, that belief has either
dissolved and been replaced by
something else, or I've gotten
that one rewritten to a place
where it is beneficial for my
next level of experience.
Speaker 1: Yes, 100%.
Speaker 2: And so those would be
two techniques that I would
explore.
Speaker 1: I think another
technique that we can add to
that is to understand, because
the majority of the time, I
would say, we have things that
come up because we are a
accepting of something somebody
else did or, b we're expecting
somebody else to do something.
And I think the other process
that we can identify is
understanding that you control
nobody but you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and I
think there's a third, I think
there's a C.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Having.
Speaker 1: That would be a D, by
the way, because you did two
and I did one.
Okay, I did C, okay, whatever.
Can't you see that?
Speaker 2: Whatever letter of
the alphabet we're on.
Yeah, if you have a very stern
expectation or insistence upon
how something must look, that
can kind of keep you trapped in
it, as well, yeah, that's
limiting.
And so go ahead.
I just wanted to throw that one
in there.
Speaker 1: You know, I think
talking about controlling other
people or expecting other people
to do things.
A you can have an expectation
that's not communicated.
Expecting other people to do
things A is you can't have an
expectation that's not
communicated.
And B you, no matter what
scenario, no matter what
scenario, you cannot control
anybody else's reality and you
can give them options.
You can tell them things.
You can.
You can be putting yourself out
there or or say or you can say
I expect you to do this or I
want you to do that, but it's
still their choice.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's none of
your business what they do.
Speaker 1: That's right.
It is totally not your control,
not your business, and you make
a choice to stay in that
scenario or you don't.
Just like they make a choice to
accept what you said or they
don't.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Or what your
expectation is, and when you can
come to a greater understanding
that you're.
The only reality that you
control is your own, and people
are in your bubble because, a
you put them there and, b
because they choose to be there.
And so, even if your, your
girlfriend or boyfriend does
something, or your husband or
your wife or your son or
whatever they, if you do, they
do something to you that angers
you or puts you in that lower
level vibration of the emotional
guidance system, you have to
stop and find your part in it
and give yourself the hope to
understand why you're doing that
and that you control nobody
else's reality and you should
remove that from your
expectations or from their
things, because you don't
control them.
You only control yours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is true,
and sometimes that's very hard
when you're in a relationship or
if you're at work.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: It's very hard to
have to, so to speak.
Speaker 1: Deal with their
shenanigans.
Speaker 2: Eat that crap
sandwich.
But just remembering that you
get to choose how you feel If
it's a task that you've
negotiated in your job
description, for example, in an
environment where you work for a
company you negotiated to do
that.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
Speaker 2: And if it's getting
to a place where it just is not
feeling good or you're not in
agreeance anymore, you get to
make that choice Still it still
is your choice of how you are
looking at it.
We use the word perceive a lot,
so I thought I'd change it up.
And so, if you can, if, if
you're not in a place where
you're ready to release that
particular job, or even if you
want to hang on to it, you can
definitely teach yourself how to
look at it differently.
Whatever the topic is Same, in
the relationship together as
partners, you're going to go
through your individual journeys
at different paces because
you're not always going to be at
the same pace.
You're not always going to
vibrate at the same frequency,
because you're having not only a
collective, united journey, but
you're also having individual
journeys within that.
Speaker 1: I totally agree.
And that's where everybody
loses it.
Right there, they lose the fact
that they're still on their own
journey and they go to.
Both of them will dive into
create, co-creating a single
journey and forget that they're
on individual journeys then
expectations and all that stuff
comes up and, like we just said,
you don't control anybody else
as a reality and so that causes,
you know, after the the
honeymoon, what they say, that
what the honeymoon period is
over, that can cause a whole lot
of dissension in a relationship
yeah, especially if you have
this expectation or this
societal definition that you're
supposed to be vibrating at the
same frequency, all the time and
at the same pace yes then
you're going to expect for your
partner to do and act in certain
ways, and they may not even be
able to because they're not
there yet.
Totally agree.
Speaker 2: And getting to a
place where you can find the
peace within yourself of letting
them be where they are and
understanding that they're not
doing anything to you.
They're just where they are and
you coming to a place of, okay,
they are where they are and all
I can control is me.
Speaker 1: Not my bubble, not my
business.
It's societal, taught and
because people go into
relationships and society has
taught them, y'all have to merge
everything.
Once you get married,
everything has to be together.
You should do everything
together, la la la.
And you have individual lives
and journeys and it makes zero
sense If you stop thinking about
it.
Y'all fell in love because of
the places that you were and so,
hey, let's just change, let's
get married, let's change
everything up and then create
one journey instead of having
two that are coming together.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's just, it's
kind of it's a recipe for
disaster.
Speaker 2: Disaster, you know,
and back in the day that was
created that way.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: The challenge within
the game was okay, how do we
take two individuals?
I'm going to go down a rabbit
hole for a second Back in the
day.
Part of the game was to take
two individuals who are on their
individual journeys and come
together with another being
called a human and figure out
how to merge and have a united
journey yeah and essentially
they did figure out how to do
that I want a black toaster each
gender had to give up certain
components and certain aspects,
and each individual had to
compromise on certain beliefs
and patterns.
And so what it did is it created
a beautiful opportunity for
people to work through
definitions, beliefs, patterns
and programs at that level of
the game.
That's right.
But as a whole, as an all that
is, we have ascended past that
concept and now we're playing
the game it's very exciting of
how to allow a triad or a
three-dimensional relationship
come into being.
So you're learning how to not
only let an individual in the
group have their individual
journey, but also, at the same
time, creating a united journey.
And so that's doing two things.
One, it's allowing us to
experience relationships on an
ascended level, the next level
of the game.
Relationships on an ascended
level, yes, the next level of
the game.
But two, what it's doing for
the collective is it is showing
us how existence is happening.
Simultaneously, it's exposing
us to that concept a little baby
bite at a time.
Yes at a time, and so we're,
we're evolving to that place of
thinning the veil between having
a linear time space reality to
having that awareness that
things are happening
simultaneously and all at the
same time.
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, the
the ascended level of that
thought is is really where
people should put them into in
the belief system behind what
they're doing.
Speaker 2: If they can mimic
what you just said perfectly,
hey, they're going to have a
great world is the opportunity
and the hope of having a great
world anyway because you go into
it knowing that all of this is
happening for you and the
exciting childlike exploration
is that wow, yeah, this is
really uncomfortable, but I know
.
Around the corner there is much
growth and growth is always
exciting, totally.
And coming out on the other
side of it, being able to look
back and say you know what, that
was tough but by golly I did
that I did it.
Speaker 1: That was really good.
Speaker 2: I made it through it
yeah, and it feels really good
and and it just is it's part of
the process.
We like that way that feels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think
everything we're describing
today, where people get their
hope from, is understanding that
they're in control.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They're in control of
their reality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
And understanding that the goal
was never to come here and find
your way to bliss and then just
hang out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because then
you don't learn anything and
have no experiences.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, your
natural state of being is bliss.
Yes, I agree, you go back to
your natural state of being when
you kick the bucket.
Then you go back to bliss,
where none of this contrast
exists.
So you already know what bliss
feels like, and so it would not
be a very expanded experience.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree.
Speaker 2: So you're going to go
up and down that scale.
Speaker 1: Correct and what a
big.
You know this is a really big
topic and with hope and I think
where a lot of people mess up is
we've been societally taught
that we have to do certain
things in our life and realize
that we don't have to do these
things that society teaches us.
We can do whatever we want, how
we want to do them, as long as
we follow by the contractual
obligations of ourself and of
the world we're living in.
And when you empower yourself
to understand, you, control your
reality, it gives you more hope
.
Yourself to understand, you,
control your reality, it gives
you more hope.
And so when you're in that, in
that realm of of I'm unhappy,
I'm depressed, I'm, I don't
understand what's going on.
Why does this keep happening to
me?
Pull yourself away for a moment
and say is it really that bad?
Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes you
can't even get there, honestly,
when you're in that true
despair, bottom of the bucket
and and and.
So if we're going to talk about
tiny little baby steps for a
second, just if you, if you're
in that moment of despair and
literally the next best feeling
thing is to lay in the bed and
mope or cry, or just lay in the
bed and not be able to get out
of the bed, then allow yourself
to do that with the freedom of
judgment, because if that's
where you are, then that's where
you are.
But if you're going to sit
there and criticize yourself of
oh here I am laying in the bed
again, I can't even get up and
get a shower, I can't even and
you're criticizing yourself,
you're just piling more garbage
on top of your despair.
I'm such a bad person because I
can't get out of bed.
Today, getting to a place where
you're allowing the despair to
be just the same as you're
allowing the anger to be, and if
the best feeling place you can
find in that moment is giving
yourself permission to lay in
the bed, yeah, agreed.
That in and of itself is growth
and expansion, because you're
you've gotten to a place where
you can allow yourself to lay in
the bed and mope without
self-criticizing or hearing that
motherly voice say you're so
lazy, get up out of the bed get
out of the bed or fatherly or
whatever are you gonna sleep all
day voices in your head husband
, wife, whatever, getting to a
place where you just are giving
yourself permission to be where
you are yeah, no matter
what the title of it is.
That is a very huge step and in
that by itself will be very
freeing and that will change
your vibrational frequency.
Just giving yourself permission
to be in despair for a minute
will actually elevate you to
that place of hope very quickly,
because what holds you in the
despair is that criticizing,
judgmental monkey mind of the
conversation or the inner
dialogue of how bad of a person
you are for being where you're
at.
Speaker 1: Correct, I agree.
And the last thing I want to
say, because I feel pretty
complete, is just know that you
are loved, because Jenny and I
love you.
If you don't believe it, call
us, we'll talk to you.
Call that number on our website
, we'll talk to you.
We ain't got no problem with
that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you
have a purpose, you are part of
the puzzle and you are loved.
Speaker 1: Yep, I agree.
Do you feel complete?
Speaker 2: part of the puzzle
and and you are loved.
Speaker 1: Yep, I agree.
Do you feel complete?
Yeah, I am good.
All right, he didn't.
Hey guys, I appreciate
everybody listening.
Um, we hope that this podcast
gave you a little bit of
understanding where you can find
hope when you're not in a good
mood or you're depressed or you
feel down or you feel like your
life is not in the right place.
We hope it did give you hope.
Speaker 2: One fun thing to do
would be to order you a little
cardboard luggage.
They have these little boxes
that look like luggage, yeah,
and put in that little piece of
luggage something that brings
about that feeling Like a little
tiny picture of somebody or a
little tiny fuzzy ball,
something that makes you feel
good.
And it's a light luggage which
reminds you to be light about it
and be fun, loving.
But it also helps bring with
you tools that could very
quickly and easily pop you out
of that place if you find
yourself in that place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
What do you do with the luggage
when you put your little stuff
in it?
Speaker 2: You put it in your
purse, you turn it around with
you.
Speaker 1: Okay, I get it.
Okay, kind of like a good luck
charm.
You know we talk about having
luggage.
Speaker 2: Okay, and we talk
about having the heavy luggage
that you're dragging around.
Okay, I understand now this is
a little cardboard box that
looks like a like a suitcase.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so being able to
put a little picture of your
child or your grandchild or, uh,
you know, some little like a
little fuzzy rabbit that feels
good when you rub on it
something in the little box.
And that feels good when you
rub on it something in the
little box.
And the symbology of it is that
this particular piece of
luggage that has my tricks to
conquer despair.
It's light, and so it's a
reminder to stay light and not
get too heavy with it, but then
it also holds the tools that can
possibly help pop you out of
that moment when you get
triggered back into the
hopelessness or the despair
places.
Speaker 1: Get it.
Okay, I understand now.
Yeah, I was a little confused
for a moment.
Speaker 2: Anyway, hey, I'm
complete.
Speaker 1: Okay, now you're
complete.
Okay, hey guys, I appreciate
y'all listening.
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