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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the
Spiritual Grind.
Good morning, Dr Jeannie.
Good morning.
Wow, we got five days.
We got five days.
Speaker 2: It's the final
countdown.
Speaker 1: Margaritaville Sea.
We going down to the Mexico
area.
Speaker 2: Don't tell everybody
where we're at.
I don't want them to follow us.
Speaker 1: Oh, the paparazzi.
They might send the paparazzi
down there the paparazzi, you
know.
I hear that they're offering
big money for our photographs.
Speaker 2: For us to stop taking
pictures.
Speaker 1: You know how they put
them headhunters out there on
the celebrities.
Speaker 2: We'll give you lots
of money if you'll stop taking
pictures, please.
Speaker 1: But it's funny.
Well, we hope you're enjoying
the podcast.
We're having a good time doing
it.
You know we've been running the
relationship series and in the
relationship series, you know,
we first talked about historical
events and modifying your
picker and then, in step two, we
went to, you know, shopping for
the best person.
You know.
Basically, go and shop in, Go
and shop in.
For those things that match you
.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's been.
Speaker 2: So where are you
going to take us today?
Speaker 1: Well, we're going to
talk about King James, setting
the original, setting yourself
up for success, basically for a
relationship.
I think that's the next step of
the relationship series.
Okay, setting yourself up for
success, you know we're going to
be.
You know, because in the
previous podcast about this is
you know, we we've we corrected
our picker by looking at, you
know, the stuff that we owned
within our previous
relationships, modifying the
picker process.
Yeah, and then we went to go
and shop and review and
historical events and beliefs,
clearing negative stuff on old
relationships.
Speaker 2: And then you know,
and giving yourself permission
to define exactly what you're
looking for, based on having
experienced the contrast that's
what that means, I agree of that
person based on your
experiencing what you want and
what you don't want throughout
your life journey, and giving
yourself permission to do that
actually because you deserve it
and you're worthy of it, without
any like inhibitions of oh, I
would really like to have this,
but I can't.
For whatever reason pops up
Right, I don't deserve it, or
I'm not pretty enough to have
this one that looks like this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually have
that.
I'm not intelligent enough.
I took good notes experiencing
contrast.
You see, I took good notes, so
that's what that meant in that
podcast.
I took good notes, so that's
what that meant in that podcast
is just creating that individual
from a place of maybe no
beliefs.
Speaker 2: if you could even get
to that place and really just
doing a big whopping dayd, part
of the process is creating it
and then letting it go into the
universe without any expectation
or insistence that it has to be
exactly the way you put it on
the paper Give spirit, the space
to create it and bring it to
you when you're aligned with it
and adding additional
characteristics that you may not
even realize that you were
ready for.
Speaker 1: Pardon me, that's
just my adjuster fixing things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because then
that's how we experience those
just really what we consider
ostentatious or serendipital or
miraculous experiences that are
over and above anything that we
could have fathomed.
Agreed.
That's how you experience those
things, by letting go of the
insistence that it must look the
way I wrote it on the paper.
And if it doesn't, then oh my
God, I did something wrong.
I didn't get the spell or the
potion right.
Speaker 1: Oh my God, I'm so
wrong.
I didn't take the love potion,
number nine, I took number eight
.
Speaker 2: Number Not enough.
Eye of newt.
Speaker 1: Not enough?
Eye of newt, stick your finger
in the pot and stir it.
Speaker 2: Oh no, my potion
turned red instead of purple.
Speaker 1: Oh no, my potion
turned red instead of purple.
Oh no, so this set the scene.
So now we have looked at
ourselves, we have fixed the
historical events, we have now
adjusted our picker and given
the timeline and the adjustments
out there to the higher self,
or your God, or whoever that is.
And now guess what?
What?
Speaker 2: Here's the perfect
person, right in front of you
Drum roll, whoever that is, and
now guess what?
Speaker 1: Why?
Here's the perfect person right
in front of you.
Drum roll, wow, it's the
perfect one.
We've been waiting for it.
And then in comes Prince
Charming or Princess Awesome,
sorry.
And so now I think the where we
go with this is making sure that
everybody understands one thing
a society has taught us that
being in relationship is two
people merging their lives
together and and it when being
copacetic, is one.
And that is true to a point.
Okay, because everybody is
individual still, even when you
are with somebody you know
wholeheartedly married, whatever
that is dating, living together
, however that works, is
everybody, everybody's still an
individual, and they all have
their, their own history, their
own beliefs, their own higher
self, guidance or God, or
whatever you call it Desires.
I have many different things
and that each one of you have as
individuals, and, I think,
understanding that, first of all
, that society has taught us
this it's got to look like this
you know, a married couple or a
couple is two lives joined
together and they're supposed to
accept everything that comes
their way or modify everything
based on the other person.
To accept everything that comes
their way or modify everything
based on the other person, and
that relationships are more
about.
I have made this person for
myself.
This person is now in my
reality, so I know, as you go
down the checklist, it's
checking off the parameters.
All the parameters are there.
Now we're going to step into.
What do we do next to set the
foundation of a good
relationship?
Okay, what is it?
I would say to start off is you
have to really make sure and
communicate clearly the
acceptable and unacceptable
things that can happen in your
reality, not in your together
reality, aka they call it
setting boundaries.
I think you know clear
communication up front about
boundaries and expectations have
to be communicated.
Speaker 2: I would agree.
The other person needs to know,
kind of, where you stand.
Speaker 1: Where's your head?
Speaker 2: at On the key
components of said relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: In order for it to be
a fair shot at this and to be a
win-win situation we haven't
mastered the skill of reading
each other's energy and mind on
a consistent basis, and so
expecting your partner to be
able to read your mind and know
exactly what you need or want in
any given moment.
Speaker 1: Or likes or dislikes
or any of that.
Speaker 2: Right, it is not
really the best way to go about
it, honestly.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You've got to use
your words and you've got to
communicate that so that they
know whether or not you know it
does.
It does a couple of things.
It lets them know where you're
at and then they get to look at
those that information and say,
okay, is this something I can
honor?
Is this something that I can
provide?
Is this something I can do?
Is this something I can honor?
Is this something that I can
provide?
Is this something I can do?
Is this something I can agree
to do?
Speaker 1: Am I willing to do.
Speaker 2: Am I right?
Is this something I want to do?
Does this, you know, align with
my highest enjoyment, my
highest excitement?
Speaker 1: And that goes both
directions, but both parties.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: Because I think it
gives a beautiful opportunity to
truly assess a relationship.
So when you know, like for us
in the beginning, we had that
one time that we just stood in
that apartment and we dumped all
our baggage out there in front
of everybody, each other, in
front of the whole world
Sometimes it was laughing,
sometimes it was anger, it was
yelling, but we went through all
the process.
We went through the whole world
.
Sometimes it was laughing,
sometimes it was anger, it was
yelling, but we went through all
the process.
We went through the entire
process and I remember you
looking at me and said so you're
, you're getting rid of me.
Speaker 2: Now yeah, I mean,
that's what worked for you and I
was just kind of dumped the
whole garbage can out and say in
a snapshot here's what I've
gone through, here's where I'm
at.
Where do you, how do you want
to move forward?
Cause, you know say open to the
fact that I think the key for
me on my side of the fence was
being okay If you came back and
said Hmm, there's a lot in there
that I can't really deal with
right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Or being okay with
Hmm, there's.
There's a lot there, but I'm
willing to try.
Speaker 1: It still sparks my
curiosity, or whatever.
I'm willing to try.
Yeah, because the key is go
ahead.
Speaker 2: The key is is that I
think I want to add this in
there.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Because this is one
of the key things that you and I
still do is remembering that we
change.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Every millisecond of
the day through your garbage
with you and be okay with it
going into it, knowing that by
doing so it may bring stuff up.
Speaker 1: for me that's
unpleasant or uncomfortable, and
it may bring stuff up for you
that's unpleasant and
uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Still being okay,
that if it's time to go, it's
time to go, if it's time to stay
, it's time to go, if it's time
to stay, it's time to stay, and
the other person being open to
that same premise.
You know, we both came into our
relationship fully functioning
individuals.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: You didn't.
I guess what I'm trying to say
is I didn't bring you into my
reality because I needed you.
Right, I brought you in my
reality because I wanted to
experience what you had to offer
.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: And you the same.
We came in as whole beings and
I didn't need you to come in and
pay my bills or raise my
children or, you know, be an
emotional support.
Speaker 1: We came in saying
okay, we're going to take this
right now, at a time, we're
going to be in the moment and
whatever it brings about, we'll
make different decisions new
decisions and we communicate
that all along the way and we
have for the years that we've
been together, whatever that
number is you know and here's
the other part of that, of that
same thing when you do sit down,
you know, say, for example,
you've been on, you've been out
on seven or eight dates and
you're you're liking the person
you're dating and they're liking
you, and you and you're both at
dinner one night and you look
at each other and say, is it
time to take this to the next
level?
And then you sit down and have
that talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think where
society has taught a lot of
things is to look at things in a
way of is it okay for me, a to
accept this thing and, b can I
fix this person?
And we can't get caught up in
that mix, because that
communication back and forth
between those two people is not
about what they want you to fix.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's about acceptance
of the subject, not fixing the
subject.
Now you can be supportive
through it, because the reality
is is you can't fix anybody else
and I can't.
You can't fix me and I can't
fix you.
Speaker 2: Right, we can talk
through it, this space to have
the experience.
Speaker 1: No matter what the
emotion is or whatever.
And it's part of a healthy
relationship.
I understand that you can't fix
my baggage.
You cannot fix it Now do we
discuss it a lot and your input
is taken 100% of the time
because you are my person.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so when there's
something that's in my reality
I'm kind of struggling with, I
will talk about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, same.
Speaker 1: And but I go into
that with the knowing is this is
about me becoming a better
person for the relationship, not
about that person fixing me for
the relationship.
Speaker 2: Well, and becoming a
better person, person not only
for the relationship, but for
yourself, for myself in in a
balanced way, and that's the
that's one of the main things.
Speaker 1: I think that we,
where people take relationships
and they run them off in the
ditch, is well, I've got this,
you know, I've been cheated on,
and they go through this entire
punch list of the negative stuff
and the other person thinks
that's acceptable, but they're
not thinking through the process
completely of saying how do you
by?
saying, listen, okay, so this
person was cheated on three or
four times, or or, um, they had
to pay all the bills because
their other person didn't work,
you know, and okay, so they had
to pay all the bills.
That means that they're going
every little thing that changes
my finances they're going to be
very sensitive to possibly they
right, they don't think through
the process and don't continue
the conversation.
So when we, when we have a
subject that comes up, like you
and I, we will just keep talking
about it.
It may not be all at once, it
may not be across three or four
months but, we do continue the
conversation until the subject
is tabled completely and we have
both cleared with it.
Speaker 2: And how do you know
if the subject is tabled, so to
speak?
Speaker 1: Well, I think, when
it all comes up to the head, we
discuss it in a true, honest,
open manner.
Speaker 2: Does your emotional
guidance play a role in that oh,
I think so totally that's kind
of where I was trying to take
you but, I can't lead a horse to
water, honestly I can't read
your mind.
Speaker 1: Remember we just had
this discussion.
I was doing it for the benefit
of the readers or the listeners
um, but you know, I think that's
where a lot of the
relationships get off on the
wrong path.
First of all, you actually
brought up a very good point
where I was going next with it.
They've decided they're going
to take it to the next level and
now they're going to talk
through the situation and set up
boundaries and set up
boundaries, and the problem that
you have to be aware of is your
emotional guidance system is
there to help you through your
processes and stuff, but don't
get stuck on the love.
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 1: Like you'll climb up
the ladder and then you'll quit,
allowing yourself to become
blinded to the emotional
movement, like I love this
person and I accept all that
because I love you, not because
they haven't thought through it
or you know, even get bothered
by it.
It's okay to have emotions.
Speaker 2: I'm not following.
Speaker 1: So, like I see this
all the time, I love this person
.
They keep cheating on me or
they keep going and blowing all
our rent money, but yet I love
them and I keep letting them
back into my reality.
And it's the same thing in the
beginning of the negotiations.
You can't be blinded by love to
the obvious.
That's because you love
somebody Doesn't mean that you
can't work through the processes
of the emotions.
Speaker 2: This is I mean.
I agree somewhat.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Thing that would be a little
bit different is if, if this is
the theme that you chose to
experience and have more to
learn from it, then that is the
kind of experience that you're
going to have well, I agree, you
mean like a contractual thing,
like on a contractual thing,
that you're going to have one
more go at it to elevate
yourself past certain beliefs or
patterns or programs, or that's
just the theme that you chose
to experience.
Maybe your whole life.
Who knows?
Only you know.
Speaker 1: And I think in that
scenario you're totally right
there could be contractual stuff
there could be Totally agree
For sure, because there's I mean
there's things in our reality.
That's an obvious contractual
thing.
Speaker 2: Obviously.
Speaker 1: And the part of it.
I mean I think what has to be
aware I mean be made aware is
when you're talking through
these things and realizing that,
hey, this person is really in
my category and within my realm.
But when you sit down to have
that conversation, understand
that it's okay to stay and it's
okay to go.
Speaker 2: Right, that's the key
thing is.
Speaker 1: It's balance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the key thing
is it's balance, yeah, and and
being open.
When, when, when you get to
that place where it's okay to
stay or okay to go, I feel like
I want to have this conversation
only I mean even just for my
own benefit when it's okay to
stay and it's okay to go, that
means in all facets of it.
If I am experiencing the
relationship in a manner that is
not exactly how I want to
experience it anymore, if I am
afraid that my reality will
change to a more uncomfortable
place or with a more
uncomfortable person, then I
will keep myself locked into the
relationship that I'm in,
allowing the things to go on
that I don't really care for.
If I am afraid of allowing the
change to happen because I have
this belief in place that it's
going to be more uncomfortable
to experience, that, I have no
idea that that's what I'm going
to experience.
I have no idea that it's not
going to be a blissful, pleasant
exchange when I allow the
change to happen.
I don't know that either way.
Allow the change to happen.
I don't know that either way.
But I've created a story in my
head based on past experiences
that, okay, whenever I was in
this relationship, there were
parts of it that I did enjoy
immensely, but it came to a
place where I no longer enjoyed
this or this about that person
and they weren't at a place
where they were able to or
willing to do anything different
to facilitate an experience
that I wanted to have went
through, experience of being
alone again, being missing the
parts of that, of that
relationship that I no longer
had, and those were not
altogether pleasant yeah and not
fun.
Breakup is not ever fun, right
right so if you're in a
relationship and there are parts
and pieces about it that you do
enjoy, but there are parts and
pieces that you would really
like to be different, if you are
still in fear of okay, well, if
I break up with this person and
I allow it to be okay to go,
I'm going to have to experience
that emotional situation of
breaking up with the person.
And so, therefore, that little
piece, that little sliver of
thought will keep you in a
relationship that, potentially,
you may not supposed to be in
anymore, but it certainly keeps
you from being able to morph
that very relationship into
something more enjoyable,
because it keeps your
perspective locked in on the
fear of having to experience
something unpleasant because you
had a past experience that way.
That's what I mean by coming
out of your relationships
educated and not damaged.
And not damaged Because the
fear will hang you up and it
will hold you in a place of not
even trying to decide.
How many times do I need to say
that before?
I get it clear.
That's me pausing while my
higher self gets it all together
.
Even if the relationship that
you're in is trying to morph
into a higher vibrational
experience, if you're not okay
with that person changing
because of the fears that they
change might bring about them
going away, then you're not even
giving them the space to become
a new and improved them and
you're not giving yourself the
space to experience the new and
improved them because you're
locked up in.
The change equals a whole
different person with a whole
different face and a whole
different personality, with a
whole different face and a whole
different personality.
And you're trapped in that
concept and the fear of loss of
this person.
It'll tangle you up if you're
not careful, because change
could mean that the person
you're with is willing to and
has graduated to that next
energetic or frequency level of
them, making the changes within
them.
That affords you the
opportunity to experience a
relationship on the next level.
Speaker 1: I totally agree.
I mean, you know, the change is
part of a relationship.
Speaker 2: Everybody changes in
every relationship dating, not
dating, friendship, work, mother
, daughter father, son, I would
say change is the only
consistent thing, would you
agree?
Speaker 1: I agree because
that's what we do.
It's constant, that's what we
do as human beings.
We change, evolve, we get better
, we experience things.
That's what we do, and trying
to force things or taking you
take in your own baggage and
turning it into an
uncommunicated expectation or an
, a, an assumption towards the
other person is is not a healthy
way to go about it.
And so the communication in the
beginning of all of it is very
clear and concise and open and
receptive and humble.
And and when you, once you get
past that point and y'all can
both look at each other and say
you know what I think I'm in, or
you know, or say you know what
had some great dates, it's been
fun, but I think that's just too
much for me.
And and that's okay, it's a,
it's a balance thing.
And when you move forward into
say, for example, if they say no
, I'm out, that's just too much
for me, that's got to be okay.
And you can't take it personal
towards yourself.
Speaker 2: Right, they're just
not there yet.
Speaker 1: They're just not
there yet.
Speaker 2: Or maybe it's just
not time for you, right?
Or maybe you're not there yet
yeah and being comfortable being
the one to say that you know
you've been dating for a minute.
You've you kind of like having
this person's face in your
bubble, but when you have that
conversation and everybody dumps
their garbage, can maybe you're
the one that says that's a lot?
yeah I really just don't want to
, and what happens is is that I
feel like I'm being mean to this
person if I tell them, after
having dated them for two or
three months, that there's a lot
of stuff in your garbage, can
that?
I'm just not really willing to
go through right now.
I'm just not there.
I don't want no baby mama drama
and so, instead of having that
open communication and being
honest, you say to yourself, oh,
I can change them, or I can
change me, or you know what?
I'll just stuff it down for
myself.
I'll change my boundaries for
both you and them, and the
relationship will become a very
bumpy ride if one or both of you
goes in that direction with it.
So being very honest in
describing and understanding
what it is you're willing to or
want to experience, even if
you're the one that says no, go
make sure you do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
I mean like when you, when you
tell me about yourself, I was
like man, it's going to be a
crazy ride, but I'm okay, that's
funny, sorry.
And I think the next step of
that is to continue that
communication, because change
will bring things up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know, know
evolution changes beliefs and
patterns and programs and you
know there's all sorts of
societal influence on
relationships that change and
and knowing that you know there
could be things that popped up,
pops up, you know beliefs that
come up or old historical events
that you know that create
issues.
Being open and receptive to
that and make sure you
understand this too, is just
another communication
opportunity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would
definitely agree.
You know, the one thing you
have to remember is that, as
we've talked about in previous
podcasts, as you clear societal
beliefs, personal beliefs,
patterns, programs by um, even
by way of the help your partner
brings, will bring up some of
the garbage out of that can that
you're ready to eliminate from
your experience.
That makes you a whole new
person, a whole different person
, and it does the same thing for
your partner, and so then you
have to go into a re-negotiation
and conversation on a very
regular basis, because you're
both a different set of people
and that's why sometimes, if you
don't realize that and you
don't come to terms with that
concept that we change billions
of times a second and we're
really literally different
people all the time, if that
person changes and they no
longer I don't know like they
came in loving chocolate cake
and now all of a sudden they
don't like chocolate cake If
you're not really understanding
that change is a natural part of
the mechanism, you'll be like
you liked it a year ago.
What's wrong with you?
What's going on?
Oh my gosh, danger, danger,
danger.
You'll misinterpret things
Right and that's not a healthy
place really to be either,
accepting that change happens
and that just because this was
the truth for you today,
tomorrow it may not be the truth
.
You're a whole, nother person
and you're.
Speaker 1: You have a whole
different history and a whole
different future, and you know,
and I think one of the big major
traps in communication with
their that everybody should be
aware of is the fact that you
work through and talk through an
issue and you come out and
decide everything's happy and
copacetic.
You can never assume that that
topic is not going to come up
again right, because we've
talked about things being in
layers.
Yeah.
Speaker 2: And you can always
count on there being most of the
time with most people.
A really deep seated topic is
going to have layers.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And you and your
higher self will only take you
down through the number of
layers on that topic that you
can handle at any given moment,
and so that's why it does pop up
and come back, but as the
partner standing by your side
while you go through, that is an
opportunity for you, as the
partner standing by, to practice
your patience, your compassion,
your understanding, your
allowance of that person to
experience going through that
layer at a time and not take it
personal.
Right, because if you start
taking things personal then it
brings in defensiveness and it
brings in irritation and
aggravation, impatience,
frustration, and that changes
the relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me talk
about assumption, because we've
talked about now a couple of
times in this podcast.
And so what I mean by assumption
is is either putting yourself
into a relationship or pulling
yourself out of a relationship.
Putting yourself into a
communication or out of a
communication because you have
assumed what the other person is
going to think or say you
cannot, don't fall in that trap,
don't fall in that black hole,
because that's a very deep black
hole and so, because you really
do not know where, as they
change and evolve and these
beliefs and stuff comes up, you
really do not know where their
they change and evolve and these
beliefs and stuff comes up, you
really do not know where their
head is.
And until the communication is
over, it's cleared and you're
happy and you move on.
Then, once you, when you start
assuming like, oh my gosh, he's
going to, he's going to think
I'm crazy, I got his, I, I've
got to, I'm going to, he's going
to think I'm crazy and I don't
want him to think that way, so
I'm going to remove myself.
You're now making a choice with
the other person and because
you didn't do it for the right
because you didn't do it for the
right reason.
Speaker 2: Well, and because you
didn't communicate with your
partner.
Speaker 1: That you're feeling
that way.
Speaker 2: That you're feeling
that way because your
perspective of yourself is.
I think I'm crazy.
And so he's going to think I'm
crazy or she's going to think
I'm crazy.
So this is a topic I can't talk
about with them, because you've
automatically created the story
that, if you openly communicate
about this crazy topic, you
view and that comes from not
quite understanding it.
Speaker 1: Or having a rabbit
hole hole topics or having a
fear.
Yeah, yeah, and because I mean
here's an example of that that
people do, going about it in
that way this happens all the
time with people and I guarantee
you that when they listen to
this, they're going to say oh
yeah.
When your boss calls you and
said, hey, I need to see you in
the office, what does your mind
do?
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm, I'm
in trouble.
Speaker 1: It automatically
assumes yeah, and then you don't
have no idea if that person, if
that boss, is calling you in
the office to give you the
employee of the year award and
here's a bonus, here's a week's
paid vacation, or it could be
that, hey, we messed up here,
this is to improve on this, and
then we're going to go forward
with it.
It could be an educational
opportunity with you.
It could you know it could be
an educational opportunity it
could be.
It could be it could be right.
Speaker 2: Not always assumption
of what it is so maybe let's go
quickly down this, this section
of what we do okay, because I
mean we?
We tell them all the time we're
, we're human we're right, right
here along with you, um and so,
whenever we go into the place
of assumption, what are some of
the things that we do, what are
some of the techniques that we
make sure that we do?
Speaker 1: oh, you know, like I
mean.
Well, I do this all the time.
I always say are you mad at?
Me or are you upset with me?
You know, I ask the question
because I'm assuming that you
are, and what that?
Speaker 2: does is.
It allows me to stop, it brings
it to my awareness.
It allows me to stop and ask
myself this is what I do on my
side.
I stop and I say okay, wait a
minute.
Am I mad at you?
And if I am, why Right?
And then when I decide that no,
you know what, I'm not mad at
you, I'm aggravated at myself
for feeling the way that I do
about this topic again.
Speaker 1: Like I mean like
that'll be.
Speaker 2: You know that'll
happen to me a lot, and it's not
that I'm mad at you, it's that
I'm aggravated at myself for
giving myself a little pop quiz
and not having passed it with
flying colors, you know, and
being genuine in it all is very
important when it comes to that,
like when I ask you um, are you
mad at me?
Speaker 1: upset?
Did I do something that
bothered you?
Did that bother you?
Speaker 2: whatever the question
is, I'm doing it from a genuine
place of curiosity, because I
want to look at what I did in it
, or what my part of it is and I
think, from the standpoint of
the person being asked the
question, the next step is being
open enough to communicate and
not leave that person in the
dark, right To assume yes, do
what you can to help clear up
the assumption, because it's
helpful to close down their
monkey mind on what they're
assuming and then, in the
conversation, getting to the
place of of saying, uh, listen,
I know this is going to sound
really crazy, but this is what
happened in my mind and this
might be what you're picking up
on.
This and this and this are what
happened and this is what it
triggered for me and this is
what it brought up.
And so I'm processing and
working through that belief,
because it's not something I
want to hang on to anymore.
Right, and not saying, no,
nothing's wrong with me, I'm not
mad at you, and just leaving
the conversation there because
you again think that they're
going to think it's too off the
wall or whatever.
Really getting to that place of
open communication.
Speaker 1: Genuine.
Speaker 2: And and speaking to
your partner about it, because
they still can't read your mind
right and we go into each
situation.
I know you and I do.
We go into each situation
wanting to help that person in
the best way that we can right
and if I'm the one who's going
into a scenario and I am doing
the assuming I I know that you
will have conversations of
you'll say well, is there
anything I can do to help you
while you're looking at that
belief or while you're rewriting
it or clearing it up?
And if there are things that
would be helpful and there have
been at times, at times like
you'll say, you know it's
helpful whenever you come up and
just touch me on the back or
whatever every once in a while
when I'm going through this
particular topic, then I do my
best to provide that for you and
vice versa.
And so asking the question of
what is it that I can do to help
, question of what can I do,
what is it that I can do to help
, and then you get to decide.
Is that something?
That I can do, yeah, and if
it's not, if it's, if it's
something that you just truly
can't do, being okay to say I
understand that that can't join
you there but that is not
something that I can guarantee
you that I can do on a regular
basis.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, that's,
that's the.
Uh.
I think that's a true solid
basis to get started with.
And then now I think, do you
feel complete with that subject
line?
I'm I'm good either way and
going forward, I think, on the
next step of it.
You know we we've talked about
setting the initial conversation
.
Then you know we've talked
about setting the initial
conversation, then you've got to
be open and receptive, genuine,
continued conversation.
Speaker 2: Now, what happens
next?
Well, I mean, I would say, you
know that's a pretty good setup
for a new relationship, agreed
when you're starting at ground
zero and you really want to get
it off to the right momentum in
the right direction.
Speaker 1: Let me say this.
Speaker 2: But what happens when
you're already in a
relationship Like when.
Speaker 1: Anytime I've ever
counseled anybody or talked to
them about a relationship, I
when, if they're talking to me
about a relationship, I treat
their relationship as if it's
brand new, because reality is,
every day is a new day, every
moment's a new moment, and I
don't care if they've been
together for a thousand years.
If they take it back to the
basics throughout their time and
and go through the steps that
we just been through, I don't
care if they've been together a
hundred years.
You could, you can go through
these steps and it will change
your relationship or it will
identify incompatibility.
Speaker 2: Okay, what if that?
What if that person is not
there yet?
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if
you're already in a relationship
an existing relationship and
your partner is not awakened and
is not embracing these concepts
but you are and so they're not
a willing participant of
communication, or they're not a
willing participant to sit down
and redefine an existing
relationship in that manner,
what is this one individual who
is kind of going it alone?
Where does it put them, and and
how do they navigate that when
they don't have a partner that's
truly willing to explore it and
and do it with them?
Like what do they do?
Speaker 1: Well, I have a choice
.
Speaker 2: Or is that a whole
other podcast?
Speaker 1: I think that's a.
I really think that's another
podcast.
Speaker 2: Or that person is
awakened, but they're just not
there yet.
Speaker 1: I think that's a
whole other podcast.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Because that's a deep
one and I think that should be
down the road, because right now
we're just setting it up.
Maybe we can do that okay.
Well, all of you that are
experiencing that have to wait
well then we can touch it,
because I don't know the answer
to you you have to wait in your
misery pool that you've created?
Speaker 2: wow, that's, that's,
that's negative I was just
trying to put a funny spin on it
yeah, yeah, I mean, do you want
to touch on it?
Speaker 1: I don't care, we can
do it.
Speaker 2: I was just asking
what do those people that are in
that direction or find
themselves in that situation do?
Speaker 1: Is there any?
Speaker 2: temporary reprieve
that you can offer, we can offer
to them in that situation.
Speaker 1: Well, we preach that
you can only control your
reality.
Right of course, and if it
isn't a place to where you're at
a crossroads to make a choice,
then you have to be open and
receptive to that choice, no
matter what that is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you have to ask
yourself what is my part in this
relationship, negative and
positive, what is their part in
this relationship, negative and
positive?
Speaker 2: And then am I willing
to go forth and either A have a
serious conversation with this
person or, b am I going to
accept where it is until things
grow, or do I have the ability
to maybe change my perspective
on the whole situation so that
it feels better for me, but I'm
still allowing them to
experience it at the level where
they're at.
Speaker 1: Right.
I think that falls under the.
Speaker 2: Can I look at this
differently, to where it gives
me a better understanding and
still gives them the space to be
where they're at, even if the
previous me was seeing that it
was a little bit uncomfortable
for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know,
because, if I may, can I talk
about one of our subjects.
Speaker 2: Well, of course, I
don't care.
Speaker 1: Like.
Here's one of the situations
that I deal with.
Speaker 2: Be careful.
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: You might not like
what I have to say.
I don't care.
Speaker 1: No, I'm kidding, I'm
not going to fear me out of
something.
I'm teasing with you.
Wow, I'm playing.
I was just playing too, and so
the part of this that we're
dealing with is there's a little
bit of entrust from a former
belief system within us, within
our relationship, that we're
talking through and walking
through I don't know.
I'm trying to share code.
Speaker 2: You are, and it's
causing you to stumble and trip.
It's causing me to stumble, not
even get your point across.
So either you're going to go
all in and you're going to just
put it out there.
Speaker 1: My point is there's a
little bit of untrust in there,
because Dr Jenny has this
belief that, because of previous
experiences, that one day I
will cheat on her or something.
And you know, being on this
side of the receiving part of it
is trying to stay open and
receptive to understanding and
being patient and not letting it
get my goat, so to speak,
because I know what I'm doing
and I know there's nothing going
on and I know I mean, yes, 30
years ago I was that guy, not so
much that guy now Because I do
not want to be that guy and so
it gets brought into the reality
and it's a touchy place to be,
especially when it comes to
infidelity, because I know the
stuff that I worked on
previously.
And so I guess what I'm trying
to say is, when you have an
experienced relationship, no
matter what level of awakening
it is, you can still only affect
your reality.
Speaker 2: And not only that,
but it's showing you that things
are going to come up in layers.
No matter how experienced you
are in this, you can still
sometimes get tripped up about
it, because my experience in
this is I had a couple of
relationships in my previous
life where I was the one cheated
on.
Speaker 1: And so I brought that
baggage into the relationship
and needed to go through some
experiences of cheating and you
had communicated that with me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, all
of this has been dumped out in
the middle of the floor and we
knew, going in, that there quite
possibly could have things pop
up and we would kind of just
take it as it went right, I mean
it's been on and off a few
times throughout the years.
And there's different.
You know, as the victim of
infidelity, there's things
popping up for me still to this
day, this many years in, because
things do sometimes have to
resolve in layers, but me going
through those.
Well, here's a good example of
in layers, but me going through
those allows you to trigger your
layers that are ready to pop up
as well.
Speaker 1: Here's a good example
of the layers Just last week.
Here's the joke I go down here
to the convenience store, I'll
get me an energy drink or
something and I'll come back.
And Jenny has created this joke
of I'm going down to see my
Wawa girlfriend because she
works at the.
Speaker 2: I go to Wawa Because
I don't understand that on the
weekends when we go to the
grocery store, why you only get
four monsters, when you know
that on the fourth day you're
not going to have any for day
number five.
And that makes no sense to me.
It's highly illogical in my
bubble and so my monkey mind
because of my past experience
and all of this that still is
going on with this relationship
thing.
The way for me to make that
feel better for me was to put
this little joke in place and
make a joke out of it, to kind
of like right, that's right.
Speaker 1: Go with it.
They don't even know what
you're talking about I'm trying
to give them the okay, I'm
trying to give them the story.
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead I was
trying to give them the rest of
the story okay, to kind of
desensitize myself about the
topic of.
To kind of desensitize myself
about the topic of why does he
just not buy enough monsters at
the grocery store when we go on
Saturdays?
Because my monkey mind was
taking me to the place of.
Oh well, that's an excuse that
he's using to be able to go see
his proverbial little girlfriend
that he has on the side.
And so for me to quiet the
monkey mind, I made a joke of it
.
to make it feel better for me, I
had to put it kind of in that
joking category so that at the
time I could feel better about
it.
Speaker 1: And then this morning
we're going to.
You know we're going to the
cruise.
We're going to you know we're
going to the crew, we're going
on a cruise this weekend.
And this morning I said I gotta
run to wawa, get me an energy
drink and that way I can tell my
wawa girlfriend, hey, I want to
be out of town for a week.
And it rang her bell it did, it
zapped me and it wasn't.
I was just trying to make a joke
out of it because she joked
about it all the time, right,
and you know, I and I have
gotten to the place to where
it's nonsense, and so I just
like play along with the joke
and taking it more light-hearted
, because I know what I'm doing
and what I'm not doing and it
doesn't bother me that that that
she makes this comment, but
what and so what?
What bothered me this morning
within it is when I make the
same joke back.
Speaker 2: And it rings me.
Speaker 1: And it rings her bell
and then I instantaneously see
the energy change of the room
and she becomes, I don't know,
irritated at herself, at me,
whatever it was.
And so now I go through the rest
of my morning saying I guess I
shouldn't have said that joke
and I can't take her issues into
my life because, I know what
I'm doing and I'm doing things
right, and so I have this stable
and confidence and stability
and confidence in knowing that
what I do in life is what I'm
doing when it comes to that
subject is 100% upfront and
honest.
And so I can get to a better
place with it.
But I think the point of that
is understanding that it does
come up in onions, because she
was joking around about it last
week and then I make a joke
about it and it's not so funny.
Speaker 2: Right, exactly.
Speaker 1: And it rings a bell
and that's okay, I'm okay with
that.
And so, like I said this
morning, what do is is?
I just get clear on it.
I just want to know what, what
the purpose behind the energy
change was, and I'm like, okay,
I can't, I, I am not, I don't
have the power to change her but
what did you do to get clear
about it?
I asked right, exactly, that's
the key I like.
Did I do something to make you
mad, right?
Speaker 2: right.
And then that, because I was
sitting there and I was engulfed
in why is this coming up again?
Oh my God, I am so tired of it.
Why can't I just chunk this
shit out the window?
And so I didn't really even
realize that it was, that I was
putting off the energy of my
frustration outwardly, because I
was just deep in the thought of
it, and so, by you asking me
the question, it popped me back
into the now, into the awareness
of okay, hey, you're projecting
this off, and it gave me the
opportunity.
Speaker 1: I don't feel good.
Speaker 2: Right.
It gave me the opportunity to
really say listen, I am, yeah, I
am feeling some frustration,
but it is not at all by any
wings at you Any wings?
Speaker 1: Did you say wings,
any wings?
I said any wings.
Speaker 2: It's not at you, it's
actually at myself, because I
gave myself this little pop quiz
of having you state that joke
and in my perspective I flunked
the pop quiz and I thought I was
done with it.
And so I'm like bleep F word.
I thought I was done with this
crap, what the bleep.
So I was aggravated at myself.
So by you asking the question
and feeling comfortable to be
able to ask the question brought
me back to the reality of
awareness of hey, look at this,
because you're projecting it off
.
Speaker 1: Well, I think you
know to kind of fall back on
every part of this, of this
podcast is it's kind of step
three in the relationship series
and that is communication
absolutely communicate, be open
and receptive to that other
person.
Yeah, do not be judgmental, do
not make assumptions, do not
have expectations that aren't
communicated and everything is
about the communication within
it, and I know society teaches
you that but what we're telling
you to do is communicate, no
matter what the consequences is
they are, and have balance
within it that way you can keep
stay on a pure, genuine level
and don't be defensive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't be
defensive, right?
Speaker 1: don't take it like it
would be so easy for me to get
defensive and get and ample that
, that or turn it into an
argument really quick.
Yeah, yeah, but I'm under the
understanding and knowing what I
do.
You know and if it because we
do this all time so there's
something pops up and if you're
living truly genuine and there
is that you know you've seen
your girlfriend or whatever kind
of energy I know what I'm doing
Right.
Oh, you've seen your girlfriend
or whatever kind of energy.
I know what I'm doing, right.
So it gives me this solidarity
to not engage into an emotional
roller coaster ride of an
argument, because I know what
I'm doing and I'm not doing it.
Speaker 2: I would say too.
Another trick that I've had you
do that's helpful for me is
that when I do make the joke,
there's been occasions where
you've said are you okay and is
there something that we need to
talk about on that topic?
You've asked me because I guess
me making the joke is sometimes
an indicator that I'm having a
little bit of a struggle with
this topic today.
Speaker 1: A damn monkey's back.
Speaker 2: And by you asking me
hey, are you all right on that
topic?
Do you need to conversate about
it?
It kind of opens a doorway to
give me that allowance to
conversate.
Speaker 1: So look, can't take
it personal way, because the
baggage is not about you.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's
your personal.
Speaker 1: It's all about the
communication, right Anyway.
Speaker 2: So make yourself a
note, because we need to take
this podcast in the direction of
what happens when you're
already in a relationship and
you're not on the same
wavelength as your partner, like
your partner's not willing to
communicate or your partner's
not willing to participate.
We need to go over that in the
next podcast, because I know
we're running short on time.
Speaker 1: We're at almost an
hour already.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That went quick,
didn't it?
Speaker 2: It does go by quickly
.
Speaker 1: Hey, so step three of
the relationship series is done
.
We appreciate you all listening
.
Don't forget to like, follow,
share.
Speaker 2: And Ring that bell.
Speaker 1: Hey, we want you all
to have an awesome day and when
you see us in Cozumel, wave at
us Love you.
Speaker 2: Love you.
We'll see you next time.