Trusting the Cosmic Dance

Speaker 1: Hello Grinders. Welcome back to the show. Hello the Spiritual Grinders. He's pretty good at it. I just thought of that. We can start calling everybody that listens to us the Grinders. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: Hashtag I listen to the Grind. Speaker 2: We'll see how that goes. Speaker 1: Hey, it might be fun. Speaker 2: You're going to put two rocks together and have them , have them grinding. That might be kind of fun. Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be the stone grinders. Wait a minute, that didn't come out right, the stone grinders. Speaker 2: Those are just two words that have many meanings I agree and probably no matter how you put them together people are going to make up their own stuff. Gonna make their own stuff up, yeah, yeah and what they make up . Speaker 1: We'll probably never know, because I don't know. For some reason they don't tell us. Why are you kicking the table? You're like a dog kicking your hind foot there. Speaker 2: I was trying to put my foot up in the chair, if you must know. Speaker 1: Your little hand almost fell over. Speaker 2: I have this palm reading hand that has the sun, the moon. That's what he's talking about. Speaker 1: Hey, you know what I got the other day? Speaker 2: Oh Lord. Speaker 1: I got a Luna guitar. That's kind of cool, isn't it? Speaker 2: It is a very cool piece of equipment. Speaker 1: It's got henna tattooing and it's got the moons on the frets. Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 1: The moon cycles. That's pretty cool. Speaker 2: And it fits beautifully. Speaker 1: It does. It plays moons on the frets. Yes, the moon cycles. That's pretty cool and it fits beautifully. Speaker 2: It does, it plays it plays nicely. Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'm gonna probably gonna have to play it tonight, just because it fits beautifully. Speaker 2: Even in my body it fits nicely yeah, and, and it's easy to wrap around the neck and get around the belly and our fellow musician at work tried to steal it, I think yeah, she did say she would like to have it. Speaker 1: I feel sorry for her. Speaker 2: Why. Speaker 1: Because she said that she's not interested in it. She's losing her interest in guitar learning the guitar because her guitar sucks. It's like an $80 Walmart guitar and it's hard to play. Speaker 2: So buy a new one. Speaker 1: Yeah, she said she's trying to bring herself to do that. Well, that's her journey. We're not buying her again. No, I'm not buying her guitar. No, I. What I did, though, was is I because of our involvement at guitar center on our app. They sent like they send us guitar specials, and I'm allowed to share them with the friends who I sent them to her this morning. Because of that, the exact guitar that she was looking at that she wants is 499, and they have one there in great use condition for $169. Speaker 2: Oh. Speaker 1: And so I sent it to her this morning so we'll see if she went and bought it or not. She didn't even reply to the text, so I don't know, but anyway, so I hope she learns it because she's actually pretty good, pretty good for a beginner , a beginner like me. Speaker 2: Like me. Hey guys, oh I guess we probably should get to the topic . Huh yeah, we're waiting on Bated Breath for the topic. Speaker 1: Does Bated Breath mean? Like? What does that mean? Like smelly breath? It could Like need chewing gum. Halitosis maximus. Speaker 2: Need a tic-tac. Speaker 1: You know my topic today is a pretty good one. I'm curious to see which direction it goes in okay, and embracing the unknown as a spiritual people, and we create our reality. When something happens in our reality that we don't feel like we created, it's kind of unknown , it can be anything, it can be anything, it can be anything how do we embrace that and how do we look into that? That's what my thought is, because what brings it to mind is you know, I had that accident in front of Walmart that day and I don't feel like I created that. I don't know what part in somebody else's life I was playing that day, because nowhere in my reality did I create a car accident, nor did I do anything to create a car accident, but yet there it happened. And and so that's what I was thinking about today is is, when you and I were having our discussion earlier, when before we went to eat I was, I was thinking about things that's been in my reality, that are, that are unknown, like we don't know why they're there. And how do we embrace those? How do we look at those and figure out what part of that was ours, what part of that was we were upon in somebody else's game, and what part of it, or I mean, what are we supposed to learn from it if it's an unknown variable? That's your cue, dr Jenny. It's a deep topic, huh. Speaker 2: Get your shovel. Speaker 1: Are we digging a hole ? Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think the first thing you have to do is redefine, creating your own reality. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: What do you mean by redefine? Well, broaden the definition of what it means to create your own reality. What that means is when you're at the big spiritual table of masterminds and you are planning out what your play is going to look like here on earth in this human meat suit yeah if you're not the one that is actually planning their play, okay, you're still being a character in someone else's play and still agreeing to create that part of the play for them by playing that character. Speaker 1: Okay, because what I wondered about in this particular incident is, you know , we had at the time a jacked up JK Jeep. I mean, it was quite large and had a big bumper and it didn't do a thing to our jeep, it didn't do nothing, but it sort of ripped the fire of that deuce truck because he went, he passed on the left on a no passing zone and I was cutting across stop traffic and he shot out on the left side, over in the other lane basically, and he got himself hit, and and so I sit and wondered today when we were eating that's what I was kind of pondering was is maybe I was just a pawn in his reality for that moment, because he's been driving crazy in his work, cause it was a work truck, it belonged to the County and and he just got himself caught. Speaker 2: No, actually I think the two of you were a pawn in my play. Speaker 1: In your play. Yes, oh, do tell. Speaker 2: Well when that happened. I was going through some things of separation anxiety. Some of that was kind of the last little residual pieces of a topic that I had been dealing with from childhood of separation and people don't stick around and people always leave and I can't. Speaker 1: These things are amazing. Speaker 2: So I don't know if anybody has ever heard of these essential oil nasal inhalers Called Moxie. They're called Moxie. They're quite divine. We order them all the time and use them. My husband is sitting here. Speaker 1: This one is frost With one stuck up his nose it smells, wonderful Look no hands. Experiment A little eucalyptus in there, I can smell it, it's quite wonderful. He's stuck up his nose saying look no hands, experiment. A little eucalyptus in there, I can smell it, it's quite wonderful. Speaker 2: Yes, that's it. The things I have to deal with. Wait till we go video. Speaker 1: It's hitting the mic right now. Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably annoying to the editor. Oh my God, please help me. Somebody help, send help. Speaker 1: So that just happened to you and that was an unknown. Did you create that? So we were a pawn in your story ? Speaker 2: Yes. Did we have to go to that extreme. Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, and please do elaborate. Speaker 2: Well, you all agreed to play those parts. Yes, you did 100% Okay, but still well in my case going through that separation thing, weirdness, working through the different layers, and I had this overwhelming fear that kept hanging on that if I wasn't in your presence, going to town with you all the time, that I wouldn't be able to save you from dastardly things happening to you. And so, as I began to release those things, I had to give myself little tests and little pop quizzes of creating kind of the worst case scenario to show myself that, see, things can happen. Nothing bad happens. He still comes home, um, and and that was my experience and it is, you know how awful is it to get that phone call from your assistant. Your husband's been trying to get a hold of you, don't worry, he's okay, but he's been in an accident, like that's a horrible feeling. Speaker 1: Yeah, I know Everybody running down here to tell you. Speaker 2: It was a worst-case scenario in my monkey mind story that could have possibly happened, and it happened. I experienced it. Everybody was okay, not even Mark on the jeep. You were fine, and so I experienced it. Speaker 1: It was crazy, I had a bigger mark on the shelf and moved on yeah, I should have ripped the fire that dude's truck though you look like I mean. Does your higher self think I'm immature and can't take care of myself? Speaker 2: no, it's my human that sees you as a small. Speaker 1: You mean, we'll make that might immature. Speaker 2: I mean you do have a nasal inhaler stuck up your nose , not using your hands. So my human views you as a a little boy, imp, who doesn't know how to behave when he leaves the house, and so I feel like I have to mother you sometimes. Speaker 1: Yes, it's kind of funny. But if you're this person in that scenario and if we didn't like, for example, if we were just a normal married couple that didn't talk, because we communicate very well, a lot, yeah, and most married couples don't talk that much- Right. I knew what you were going through, right, I mean. But if I didn't know, because most people are not going to know, okay, that they were a pawn in that game, so to speak, or in that scenario, not really game. Game is probably not the right word. Speaker 2: Game is a perfect word. Speaker 1: It can cause that feeling of unknown of why did I create this? And so they start searching in their own world of what they created and it causes confusion. Speaker 2: I've seen this in other podcasts and I've I've broken it out that it could be a few different things. It could be that you, you a hundred percent, create it period. Speaker 1: I did. I'm not budging on that. I did, or you did? Speaker 2: You helped create it? Okay, we created it together as a soul group. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: I said I want to experience something like this. You volunteered to be the husband. Speaker 1: Oh, pick me. He volunteered to be the driver . I'm going to get hit by a train . Speaker 2: I mean it's all voluntary choosing to participate. It's not done to you, it's done for you and we all created it together. It's a creation that is done purposefully. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: That's the first thing to wrap your brain around everyone, Because that is a universal law that is in existence and it doesn't budge. There is a big fat period. At the end of that we create our own reality and anyone that is a character in our play has agreed to play that part. Speaker 1: Period. I'm going to be devil's advocate for a minute, okay, because talking to you as a new person in the spiritual world, and I've just had a car accident and you tell me that, or I hear , I hear your podcast, while the police are waiting. I'm waiting for the police and all that stuff to do the investigation and I'm and I hear you say you created this reality and you say, yeah, you all agreed together at what, what point? And please elaborate. Sorry, I glitzed for a moment, probably that moxie that was stuck in my nose. I can imagine somebody out there that don't have a really big understanding of it like I do. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Can say to themselves well, when did we get together? I mean, when did we have this conversation? You know what I mean. Speaker 2: How did? Speaker 1: I agree. I don't remember none of this. And how did I agree to have this reality with these people? Perfect strangers. Speaker 2: Wow, I must have been really drunk. I blacked out. Speaker 1: I know right, that was one hell of a night, or? Speaker 2: I was abducted by aliens. Speaker 1: I mean, where in my creative powers did I create this, where I had two perfect strangers jump into my reality and crash my car? Speaker 2: Listen, I'm not going to lie. When you are newly awakened, when you come across as you're supposed to, things such as our podcast right now, here and now, you're meant to, because that's part of your awakening process and during your awakening process, there very well could be abrupt pieces of information that will shake your little world for a minute and for sure because the first thing we learn as new people is what we think about. Speaker 1: We bring about like, attract, likes, and so when you operate on that as a new person in this virtual world, you think to yourself what did I do? You know, where did I? I mean, I didn't go out and crash somebody. Why did somebody crash me? You know what I mean? Speaker 2: yeah, and so we've taught in other podcasts to go down the grocery list. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: You know, the first thing to do is be curious about why is it in your existence. Try the best you can to embrace the fact that you created it to either remind you to do something, to teach you something along the way, to take you off of one path, to put you on another path, to orchestrate some, something that you've asked for. There is a purpose, everything happens for a purpose. You've put it in place for a purpose, including those car wrecks, including experiencing the death and dying, and if you can embrace that, the best you can try to do that. The second thing, is understanding bullet points. We'll call them bullet points. So whenever reality happens for you not to you, for you that's hard to understand, especially if you're at that level where you're still seeing that it was a negative experience Then you create bullet points. Okay, so it's either something that I agreed to experience with this person because we're part of the same soul group. I agreed to experience myself firsthand because I have some something that I'm learning from it, or it is some sort of worry or concerned energy that I've been carrying around and, as we first learn, like energy attracts like energy. So if you're constantly this the sky is falling chicken who's worried and anxious all the time about getting in a car wreck or something bad happening to you or you know whatever along that same vibrational frequency then yeah, you'll, you'll, you'll hover around in that frequency and bring it about possibly you know the what comes in my well, I actually, you know, I agree with what you just said completely. Speaker 1: You know, and in the process of learning all these things for people and getting to know what what you're talking about and understanding on a deeper level, we still have human emotions that come in of course and when, like, for example, everybody does it a little bit different. It's kind of weird, like. Like when I got rear-ended in tulsa, oklahoma, one time, there was this guy he was. It was a very well-known computer company truck that rear-ended two of us and the one dude in the truck and ahead of me he jumped out grabbing his neck or whatever. I mean he actually was hurt. He had a pretty good cut on the back of his head from hitting the back window of his truck. And he gets out and the cop comes over to him and he's holding his neck and the cop says to him are you okay? Do I need to get you an ambulance? Because there just happened to be a cop behind the guy that hit us and he said, yeah, I'll take an ambulance but I'm going to be okay because I'm about to get a big check. And he literally was like laughing about it and he's going to get paid. And then on me, on the other hand, I'm pissed off because my jet ski is across the dang intersection. And there's no water and there's no water in it, because I had it in the back of my truck and I had it leaned up on the back of the cab because my trailer had broken axle and I was taking it to pick up the trailer right and this dude ran into me and my poor jet ski just literally launches through the intersection, through the air and it is. It lands over in the hospital parking or the hospital uh monument sign flowers and it pretty much destroyed it. Um, and I hear I'm I'm mad about this, and then all this happens. But this dude's happy, he's about to get a check. That's all he cares. That's all he cares about. And so, as humans, we have a tendency so what did you learn from it? What did I learn from it? Speaker 2: yeah, what? What came of it for your learning and your growth and expansion? Speaker 1: Well, I learned a whole lot about the insurance game. At that time I was young, I was like 19, I think when this happened Okay, the guy that was celebrating getting a check, he was probably in his mid to late 30s, something like that. But that whole scenario behind all of it was was I learned a lot about the insurance game. But what I'm talking about in it is we have three individuals. This guy that hits me is he is crying because he's about to go to jail for DUI. Yeah, and what's the other guy? When he found that dude was drunk and that he celebrated even more? And I get pissed off even more because you know he's celebrating, I'm going to get paid even more because the guy's drunk, you know, and so it's all like how we handle it differently. But when we identify those I mean when those things come into our reality that we can't identify an unknown factor because we may not be awakened, it does cause emotions, and those emotions sometimes are not ours. Sometimes they are. Sometimes we're confused about where they come from and why they're there. Like I couldn't tell you why. I was pissed off, I wouldn't hurt and I knew my stuff would be replaced. Speaker 2: Right, I mean, but it's just an inconvenience. I agree and annoyance to have to deal with you know, going through the process of replacing your stuff and dealing with the insurance and getting somebody out there to tote it off. That's not convenient, none of that, and it disrupts your daily routine and it's just inconvenient and so there can be lots of frustration or aggravation around being inconvenienced yeah look around. Speaker 1: People get frustrated about that all the time yeah, but what about all these stories that ran through my head of man ? I'm 19,. Now I'm going to have something on my record my jet ski's ruined. Are they going to replace it? Because I had put a lot of money into it, because it was really. It was souped up and fairly fast, and I ran through all these emotions of anger and confusion and much other things and I could never identify what within that, I created. But I didn't. I mean I can identify what I learned. Okay, um, that's pretty easy. I mean I learned a whole lot about myself and that and how how to control my anger a little bit back then, cause my anger was pretty crazy. Speaker 2: Yeah, um, that's, that's a plus. Speaker 1: I agree, I yeah, that's a plus. I agree, I agree. But to stop and look at it now, you know I understand the process and how this was. You know we probably just us being in that scenario could have saved somebody's life because anybody else could have killed him. You know there's many things involved in it. Speaker 2: Well, exactly, I mean , you can speculate and put all different scenarios out there. The guy who was drinking this may have the wake-up call that he needed so that he could get his act together. Yeah, the guy that was gonna make some money, he obviously I mean, maybe he had a sick wife that was dying of cancer and he needed to pay the cancer bill and this was the money that he had been asking God for, maybe, and so for him to be involved in this play, so to speak, this portion of the play for this guy and him get benefit out of it, which was financial, to help his situation, and then for you, which was financial, to help his situation, and then for you, you wanted to experience more knowledge about insurance and whatever it is you learned from it. There's many different scenarios out there that could have been the end result We'll never know, because each person has their own thing that they learned within it. But if you're the, if you're the core person who caused the experience, you obviously at some point made a decision that it could be just something as simple. Sometimes you overthink it. Yeah, it could be simply you saying I want to know what it feels like to be intoxicated and have an accident and have all of those emotions course through my body as just an experience, like I want to know that thing where you say, okay, listen, if I get off course and I'm not going in the direction that I was wanting to go, when I get there, because I have completely forgotten everything, then this is our plan B to put me back on track and it is your job to activate mission plan b to put me back on track. If I, if I'm not listening and I'm not hearing you in any other way, this is, this is like the big kahuna that gets my attention I got lucky you got lucky I got lucky is lucky, a dog in this accident. Speaker 1: I had a 12 pack of beer on ice in the back of my truck. Yeah, because we were going to go to the lake and ride the jet skis. Yeah Me and my buddy, I was only 19. And when he hit it it knocked everything loose and all the cans of beer rolled out on the ground, and so he kind of saved me and the cop's like is that your beer? I'm like, no sir. I don't know what that is, but anyway there was that was a part of it that apparently I didn't sign up to learn because that could have been a bad circumstance for me, right, because we have free will yes and so your free will within this journey could very well have been. Speaker 2: Hey, you know what I'm feeling like? I want to get some beer and party it up with the fellas. So I'm gonna stop and get some beer along the way, and if you're not supposed to experience the results of being caught with the beer, higher self is gonna have your back. Man, that's what I'm telling you. Even if you're not awakened or fully awakened, higher self will have your back I agree, I totally agree with that it will orchestrate the most beautiful situations so that you experience exactly what you're intended to experience at that given moment so the unknown. Speaker 1: So the the topic of the podcast I wanted to be was to teach people how to, how to process and work through those unknown variables and, as you, you said that you know, stop and identify them. Now, what do we do when we identify them? Speaker 2: you know it is. It's a tricky, it's a it's a tricky thing. It's one of those things where you just have to come to a place inside of you that it is okay to not know. Sometimes, Neutrality. It's just not. You have to come to a place. sometimes, If it's not information that you can hear or see or acquiesce from the universe right this second then it's not meant for you to know right now, right now Right, and you just kind of have to embrace that it is what it is and I will know when I'm supposed to know and that has to be part of the fabric of your creation is that sometimes it's okay to just not know and trust that your higher self always has your back . That's the part to work on, is getting yourself to a place of trusting your higher self beyond belief. That's the key, because when you can get to a place of truly trusting the higher self, then the unknown is not so scary self , then the unknown is not so scary and it is okay to not know every single solitary piece of the pie before you step off into it. And so some of the ways you can do that are you know, you can do kind of like a life review yourself in your journal when you're new or when you're experienced or seasoned or well along your path. It's a good idea to go back to it. When you're new or when you're experienced or seasoned or well along your path, it's a good idea to go back to it if you're having revisits of trusting higher self is. Go back in your history and review times where things got really from your perspective, times where things got really from your perspective, really down and dirty, really wonky, really questionable, and and show yourself through that historical movie, so to speak, that you did make it and that everything did turn out okay. Yeah, it didn't. It wasn't the end of you, right . You figured out a way around it , out of it, through it, and it made you more of who you are today, and that was higher self guiding you along the way. Your counsel, your guides, all of those beings that come in at various times in our journey to aid and assist, always, always, always, have your highest and best interest at heart and they always have your back and just going and doing that, what I call life review yeah, you know the the. Speaker 1: What I like to talk about is this is how I explained this other day somebody was when you're in an emotional state of unknown and the best thing you can do, because we normally, as humans, we have this ability to compartmentalize things and we have this ability to hyper-focus on things as well, and so most of the time when people are hyper-focusing on a traumatic event in their life that they because it's an unknown variable to them sometimes it's hard to do not focus on it. Speaker 2: Yes, I can attest to that. I'm currently going through some things and it's a wonky ride. Speaker 1: And the unknown variable to it is one of the things that are frustrating and hard to get you to lack of focus . But what you just said is is completely the first step to neutrality in the subject, because you know, you hear, you, it's humanly. You hear a lot of this stuff about ptsd and all these things and and in my unprofessional opinion of ptsd, it's the lack of people understanding the trauma that just happened to them. It's an unknown variable and so they never get to neutrality in it and so they hang on to it. Speaker 2: That's right. Speaker 1: And when. When you have a traumatic event or an unknown emotion or variable in your life, when you can find the trust in your higher self to create neutrality , then you were humanly, will compartmentalize it Like cause. I'll give you a prime example when, or I'll give everybody food for thought. Yeah, Everybody has a traumatic event in their life that they can remember. Speaker 2: Yum yum yum, yum, yum , yum, yum yum. Speaker 1: What? What was that Are? Speaker 2: you munching on it. That was my, that was my thought eating the food. Speaker 1: Oh, oh, on it. That was my, that was my thought. Eating the food, oh and uh. When you have the uh dramatic event, it's easy to remember that one that you didn't find neutral for um, but if you stop and think about it and really put some focus into it, you're going to find out that you've compartmentalized a lot more traumatic events than you remember. Speaker 2: That you, because you can ask somebody hey, name a traumatic event in your life, and they'll pop off the worst thing in their life, right, but you go through and tell them to name every traumatic event in their life, they can't no, because once you process them, you deal with them, you release the energy, then they dissolve and they get filed away, and then there's no need to really hang on to it, and so it's not as easy to grab the memory of it . Speaker 1: But I guess the point I'm trying to get to is is when we can find that trust in our higher self and get to that neutral place of any emotion not just traumatic events of any emotion, our human nature. By nature we will stuff that sucker back into our subconscious somewhere and compartmentalize it and then we don't even think about it until something similar happens yeah, until something triggers that booger and brings it back up to the surface. We're like, oh, I've been through this and it can be a positive or negative yeah and I've already I've already conquered this beast once. So it can be positive. Or I'm like, oh man, this is popping into my reality again, why, yeah, it can be positive. Or I'll be like, oh man, this is popping into my reality again why it can be a positive or a negative. But either way, the trick to it all is what you just said On any unknown variable in our life is to find that trust in our higher self, in our higher being and in our human self, to find neutrality and keep our eyes on the prize, and that is, of course, that pure, freeing, energetic being that we are. That's happy and go lucky and fly around. But in us, our human vessels, will compartmentalize that stuff if we do right. What is that laughing for? Speaker 2: because I visualized you flying around with a red cape I kind of am superman. Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of. Speaker 2: I've been referred to as that what was the guy that had the blonde curly hair? Speaker 1: oh, the greatest american hero, yeah and he. Sometimes he would crash yeah, oh yeah, he crashed a lot. What do you mean? It's like every time he tried to fly, he like flew into a building, or that was more landed in the bushes. Speaker 2: I was more visualizing that, not superman, who's very I'm trying to find neutrality in this right now. I'm trying to trust my higher self that my wife looks at me as the greatest american hero, just go into the phone booth my wife is supposed to look at me as superman I do my love not the guy with oatmeal on his head that lands in bushes I mean, we did start this off with you having the nasal inhaler stuck up your nose which is a super feat not with a schnoz like that . Oh dang. Speaker 1: Dang, she went there. She's trying to say I got a big nose. Speaker 2: I love you. I'm just kidding. You left the window of opportunity wide open. Speaker 1: You know what they say about guys with big noses, this saying Wah, wah wah, that's right. Speaker 2: I have never heard anything about that. Speaker 1: I think it's actually a big feat and I don't have big feet Anyway, and so my wife. Now, I've now discovered that I have a traumatic event. Speaker 2: Can someone? Speaker 1: give him therapy. Help me, wasabi. Speaker 2: Pretty good. Need schedule therapy but anyway. Speaker 1: So I mean that's really the key to it and really you can become very, a lot more successful in your world when you can find the trust in the experience, the trust in the higher self, the trust in the journey and get it to a neutral place of any unknown. Speaker 2: Yeah, Sometimes you just have to keep repeating to yourself trust the process. Speaker 1: And let me, let me define my, my definition for neutrality and cause some people define it a little differently. I discovered this the other day in my power of thought uh, power of thought seminar that I'm giving is I define neutrality as a place of the peacefulness of within it, without an answer, kind of like, okay, I can accept this for what it is. I don't know sometimes what I don't know, what I don't know, and I do know what I do know, and it's okay either way, and so I'm just going to get to a point of just letting it be neutral. Speaker 2: Yeah, that of just letting it be neutral. Yeah, that is a good point to bring up, because the so what or the whatever energy, it can have two different types of energy tangled up into it. I agree yeah, and so you gotta be careful and feel your way through it. Right and you can't so what I don't care, so what I don't, I don't, I don't care. So what of a like giving up or hopeless energy? Yeah. Or if it's a, so what? Who gives a bleep from like an angry standpoint? Yeah, or you know. So you got to really check in with what kind of neutral place are you in? Are you in that true high vibrational neutral place of peace that it is okay to stay, it's okay to go, or are you doing it as a kind of distraction or a deferment from a place of anger or hopeless or any of those lower vibrational? Speaker 1: things. You know, that's really the point that would get brought to me In the seminar. I was going over the emotional guidance system and, like, this seventh or eighth level up on the emotional ladder is neutrality. Yeah, which is one of the guys in the seminar you know, said if you're neutral, that means you're complacent. No, I said define that for me. What do you mean complacent? And he said well, generally, when you become neutral, you just become complacent, you let it go and you don't look at it either direction. He said and for me, before I can close anything, I have to know one side and the other. And I said well, that's because that's how you define your neutrality. Everybody defines a little differently and that's how you define your neutrality. Everybody defines it a little differently. Yeah, and that's okay. Work your process, but neutrality is not complacency. Right, because neutrality is you getting to that spot. It's okay to compartmentalize it until it comes back up, yeah, or it's okay to release it until it just goes away. I'm not saying it because it's still contrast. Speaker 2: I would define it as well. So I would define it as when you think about that thing that used to cause you some sort of emotion, such as frustration, sadness, anger and you get to a place where you've processed enough of, or entirely, all the beliefs, patterns and programs behind it, you'll come to a neutral place on the emotional guidance system where when you think about that thing that happened, it does not give you any, it doesn't strum up or drudge up any of those emotions anymore. Then there's that kind of secondary level on the neutral scale, where you're closer to peace and harmony and further away from the lower range of the neutral, where when you think about it, it actually begins to bring in peaceful understanding yeah, that's what's next on the way accepting, acceptance and understanding vibrational energy and you'll begin to feel that trickle in right and and so, just to clarify, this is this is what I told the guys. Speaker 1: when you neutrality, it does not matter how you define and how you get there, it's just a matter that you're now six steps above the worst emotion you can have. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And the next step is acceptance and understanding. And now that it doesn't matter how you get there, as long as you can find neutrality, because it's going to allow you to have acceptance and understanding, you have to go through this process. Speaker 2: Well, and you most likely nine people out of ten they have to do the emotions prior to that because they can't necessarily get from where they were to neutrality in one big heaping late Right. Most people cannot do that. They just can't get to where they want to neutrality in one big heaping late. Most people cannot do that. They just can't get to where they want to go from there. And so you've got to go through those different emotions. Speaker 1: One of my friends. He has become a non-human. Speaker 2: A nun. Speaker 1: A non-human energetic being. Speaker 2: I was going to say how did he pull that off? Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, especially hanging out with me, but anyway, he used to always say it is what it is and I am who I be. He used to always say that, yeah, and for him, though, that was a way of not. It was just a way for him to not face reality. He would go from anger to happy just by saying it is what it is and just let it go, and he would just compartmentalize and he stored all that stuff up and he never looked at it, never dealt with it. Speaker 2: I was going to say don't let that trip you up. It is a good technique to use on a temporary basis. Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 2: But if you just keep storing it up in that little closet or that little box or whatever and don't ever go back and deal with it, it can then get full and it can sneak up on you and start to energetically affect your physical health in in some people yeah, and a lot of people. Speaker 1: That's what he always did, and I used to always tell him, like man, one of these days , all these closets are going to open on you and you need to deal with your skeletons, and he would. He would always just say that'd be all right, because that's what he did. When he was focused on one thing, nothing distracted him from from looking and facing the things and and, and. Speaker 2: He had these kind of incidents in his life constantly right, but we don't want to send out the, the energy of. Oh my god, if I don't deal with this, right the right time right I create a fear right, I guess I'm gonna cause some end of life heart attack or some something like that. Speaker 1: That's not at all what we're saying no, that's not what I'm saying, it'll just come to a head yeah, that what I'm trying to say is is knock, knock, knocking on on that. Your back door is going to be your higher self wanting you to handle it. Again and again and again, the same scenario will keep popping up into your reality. What was I looking for? Speaker 2: Just indifferent, don't be knocking on my back door. You ain't getting in. Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door, yeah, you ain't getting in. Well, I was gonna say knock, knock, knocking on heaven's door . But I didn't want to give that, I didn't want to give that impression that uh that if you don't deal with it, you're gonna be going to heaven soon, and that's wasn't my point, my and so what I switched to was back door, but anyway and so but, what I'm trying to say is spirit will keep putting it into your existence until you do face it. If it's something you need to handle now and when it, until you get to a neutral place of it , um, it can be. It can be a challenge, because sometimes, if there's something that you need to look at to expand your, your awakening and your journey, yeah. Spirit will keep putting it right in front of you and you'll trip over it every freaking morning when you get up and that dang lego's on the floor that's right. Speaker 2: Yeah, it's time. It's time, and it'll just become louder and louder and more of a nuisance, and more of a nuisance, until you finally stop and pay attention to it, even if it has to be a car accident. That yeah, because that's what happens that totals your car man . Speaker 1: What I have discovered over the years is it normally starts with something minor, yeah, and then the more you ignore it, the louder it gets. Or the worse it gets, and it's like insanity. And so I've gotten now to where I'm kind of hypersensitive and I just want to handle everything like right now. Speaker 2: But then that creates impatience, that's right. Speaker 1: It does, and so it's not a neutral place. No but the the crazy part about it is is it is. I hear people all the time say this you know, I've been thinking about this for a long time, or just the other day this happened and this popped up, and and so it tells you that spirits showing them things their higher self is revealing things to them. Uh, a young lady that was has been trying to boost her income and make more money and and she and not listening to the signs. And it may not be time for that person right now, I get it, but but the the point is is, is you know, there's that knock, knock , knock on your back door and it keeps coming up and getting louder and getting bigger until you address it. And when you have a tendency, like I do, I I have. You know dr jenny always calls me a mallard duck because of the other things roll off my back pretty easily and most of the time I call him a bullhead because he's pretty stubborn yeah, I can be stubborn too. So maybe I'm a bull headed mallard hey, there's a sculptor, there's a sculpture I so maybe I'm a bullheaded mallard hey, there's a sculpture, there's a sculpture I could do. I could do a bullheaded mallard duck. Speaker 2: Ooh, a flying bull. Speaker 1: A flying bull. Good idea. Speaker 2: I think they already did that though. Speaker 1: They did. Speaker 2: Yeah, on the Red Bull , Didn't they? Speaker 1: Give you the wings. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Did they? I think they did. Did on the commercial? I don't think they have anyway. So, um, when we, when we get to that neutral place and we compartmentalize things a little better than normal, things get a little easier. But spirit will bring it right back into our reality if we compartmentalize it too early or too long, or too long? Yep, okay, what else yet? Speaker 2: what else do I have? What else? Speaker 1: do you get? What else do I have? So you know the I brought this. Speaker 2: I think that, just you know, I feel there's a lot of have tos and shoulds and I feel a lot of tension of oh my gosh, oh my goodness, oh my goodness. I think that the one message I want to just out in the collective energy oh, like we said, that yeah, a little bit I did. I'm a bad boy no, I just don't want to give that impression oh, okay I just want everybody to kind of take a relaxed, a little bit more light-hearted stance, because your higher self, as I said in the very beginning of this podcast, always has your back, always has your back, and so if you don't get it the first time around, higher self is going to bring it back around. It's all good, and when you're meant to hear it, when you're able to hear it, when you can hear it, you will hear it or see it or something. But when you're trying to identify these unknown factors that you feel like you did not create, embracing that you did create them and trying different techniques to get to a place that allows you to say this is happening for me, not to me, that will bring you out of the victimhood template. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: And the minute that you can increase your vibrational frequency on your emotional scale from whatever level you're at despair, anger the minute you go from despair to anger, that's going to put you at a frequency that is going to allow some message to come through. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Because just being in that lower vibrational frequency is blocking part of the information coming in. Speaker 1: Because anger is better than despair. Speaker 2: That's right. Anger has its place. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Once you get from anger to that first little baby, step onto the neutral standpoint of okay, it is just so what. Speaker 1: Yeah so what? Speaker 2: So what? I'm just not going to let it bother me. So what? Just getting there will open up the information highway and a little bit more information will come through. Well, you know what the key to it is not necessarily getting hyper focused on the unknown Right, working with your frequency to try and move it up the scale is actually the key to the game Right. Up the scale is actually the key to the game right, which it wasn't taught that way early on in the awakening back in the day , because we were just learning and and and information was coming through and we were interpreting it the best that we could, based on the frequency that we were individually and collectively. But we have far surpassed that frequency level and so information can come through. And now that it's come through and we've gotten a lot more information on how the universe works and we've we've gotten past the primary elements of the secret by Rhonda Byrd, which is a phenomenal experience experience and I recommend everyone if you're, especially if you're new to it to go and watch that just to kind of get your feet wet. The next level is to start creating a language, a communication with your own frequency, learning your own frequency and how to move it up and down the scale, because just being in a lower frequency sometimes won't allow the information to fully come through or won't allow you to be able to fully interpret it in the highest and best way, because the higher self is always giving you information. Your guides, your counsel, your soul group are always giving you the information. Whether you can hear it or not is going to depend on what frequency what if you can hear? Speaker 1: it not depends on how many Q-tips. Speaker 2: you have what? Speaker 1: If you can hear or not, it depends on how many Q-tips you have. Also You're going to be able to clean them ears out so you can hear. Speaker 2: So the key to the game is getting that frequency up, practicing doing that. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: And some of the techniques are using, finding tricks that will help you go from low frequency to higher, to higher to higher A picture of your child, a favorite pet photograph that you can carry around with you Stones. I carry stones around all the time. I stone out all the time. I have some sort of rock in my pocket Petting your animal, sitting down for a few minutes a day and petting on your animal. Speaker 1: I will not pet your animal. Oh my God, she gets me. I can't, she gets me. Speaker 2: I can't. Speaker 1: She doesn't like me. Speaker 2: She's been letting you carry her to the bed. We have the cat, that is a special needs cat and she doesn't like to be touched period. Yeah, it's painful. Speaker 1: It's painful to her, but anyway I'll get back to it. I do want to clarify something that I feel like we need to clarify. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: And we'll send this over to our social media director. We'll put it on social media but the emotional guidance system ladder. I want to explain the difference between despair and anger and you'll see it on there . I'll send it over to her so she can post it on social media. Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say can you take that little chart? Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll post it out there. And send it to where we can post it in the yeah and put it on the website under our photos or something. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And when you're in despair you have a loss of everything. You're kind of like you have no hope, you feel hopeless, you have no point of what's going on . You have no point of what's going on, you have no understanding of what's going on , and you can. it becomes a place of just complete and utter vacancy of positivity, of positive energy when you're in despair. And one rung up that ladder Actually it's the second rung up , but anyway, anger is where a lot of people go to next. And let me explain the difference, because a lot of people would think anger is the bottom of the ladder. That's what I discovered through the process of my seminars at the Power of Thought School. Everybody always thought anger would be at the bottom of that ladder. And because it's really not, uh , so anger you. To have a hang anger and come up that emotional ladder, you have to have some kind of expectation, positive thought, because without the contrast you would not be angry about it. And so if you didn't think this was supposed to be this way, you can't be angry, and so there's a point to it. And so that's why it's a higher up the ladder than despair, one of the reasons why but there's there's many reasons, but I just wanted to clarify that. Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, sometimes you have the emotion that you have because higher self never joins you in those emotions. Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Speaker 2: And so sometimes the anger, we'll use that. Sometimes you're feeling angry simply because, on a level that you are not quite aware of yet, you're feeling the what would be the word? Speaker 1: Disconnect. Speaker 2: Disconnect from your higher self and you're angry at yourself for letting yourself get to a disconnected place and you're looking to reconnect to that higher energy. Speaker 1: Cause higher self is not going to join you in that place. I agree. Speaker 2: Higher self is not. Even if you feel like crap and you listen, I'm going to tell you I have a full on conversation with higher self, back and forth. We have a whole language. But when I am in those grumpier levels and I'm trying to coax herself to come join me, when I'm a woe is me. Speaker 1: Yeah, I won't even join you. Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Speaker 1: I can't join you there, I'm sorry. Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we do that, we do that to each other. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Because it's not going to be beneficial for either one of us to hop in the woe, is me pool with the other one and do any good I'm just gonna sit over and hold this spot of positivity for you. Yeah, until you join me, that's right yeah, that's all you can do, okay, and so sometimes you'll have that experience that it feels like you're isolated and alone. Speaker 1: But just remember, I'm here you're, you're not isolated and alone people. Speaker 2: But just remember, I'm here, You're, you're not isolated and alone. People are just holding that energetic level. Higher self is holding that energetic level of a higher frequency for you until you've processed your beliefs, patterns and programs and perspective about where you're at and raise your frequency back to join them I totally agree. Speaker 1: That's a good way to close this. Yeah, that's perfect, you can do whatever you can do. Speaker 2: Try different techniques to change your emotions within your emotional guidance system yeah, just talk yourself through it. Speaker 1: Well it doesn't have to be talking. Speaker 2: You know it may be. It may be a photograph, it may be a recording, it may be an affirmation that puts you there. It may be a memory. I used to go to the punching bag too. Speaker 1: I did that Music exercise. Speaker 2: You've got to test different things out Meditation, yeah, sitting under a tree. Start trying different things and noticing how they make you feel yeah, and then put those in your little virtual. Tool bag, tool bag, so that you can pull them out at any given time when you do get in those places of funkiness yeah. Speaker 1: That's awesome Good advice. Thanks, Dr Jenny. Speaker 2: You're welcome. Speaker 1: You rock, you're the smartest. Thanks, dr Jenny. You're welcome. You rock, you're the smartest. Wait a minute. I said that wrong. You're the dumbest smart person I've ever met. What? Or the smartest dumb person I've ever met. Something like that? What am I supposed to say? Speaker 2: I don't know. You're digging a hole, man, and you better look out, because I gave the couch away I know you don't even have a couch to sleep on. That sucks, you've got a cat, thing, we got a dog because I'd be in the dog house you've got a cat tree and I don't think you're gonna fit. Speaker 1: No, I can't fit in that little thing. I don't think my foot would fit in that thing. Anyway, hey, we appreciate y'all yeah don't forget to look us up on social media at the merc centers. We'll put that a uh emotional guidance system letter on there. This, after she posts this, um, we'll send it over to our media and marketing director, cause we have one of them, cause we're cool and she's cool. Anyway, we love y'all that like , follow, share. Don't forget to ring that bell. Look us up on social media at the Merck centers. That is also our website, wwwthemerckcentersorg. That is C-E-N-T-E-R-S and it's M-E-R-C and there is an S on there, org, so wwwthemerckcentersorg, and on there is our phone number and we will post that on social media. We appreciate y'all and we hope y'all have an awesome day. Speaker 2: Love you, we'll see you next time.