You Can’t Rewrite Your Story While Gripping the Old One

SPEAKER_04: Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to the spiritual grind. SPEAKER_00: Good morning. SPEAKER_04: Thank you all for listening. SPEAKER_00: Well, how's your morning going? Absolutely wonderful. Got to sit by my lake and enjoy in the nature. SPEAKER_04: I had some sunshine this morning, finally. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: It's been like a week. SPEAKER_00: I know. Everything's soggy bottom. SPEAKER_04: My tan is fading. Good morning, and uh quick shout out to uh Greenhouse Yoga. We're gonna be housing our workshop on October 10th, 11th, and 12th, hosting it for us. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: Uh that's uh Greenhouse Yoga that is in Port Orange at 4606 Clyde Morris Boulevard. And uh you can That's in Florida. That is in Florida. That is in Port Orange, Florida. If you would like to attend the workshop, then you send me an email at dr james at the Merccenters.org, or uh you can send us a text or even call us at 813-285-9951. It is sixty dollars a head for the entire three-day workshop. SPEAKER_00: Right. SPEAKER_04: So it's gonna be and it's gonna be very enlightening. It's called the power of thought. SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a good workshop. SPEAKER_04: It is. It's gonna be the I don't even know how many times I presented this workshop. But it's been a been a few. SPEAKER_01: For sure. SPEAKER_04: It's gonna be successful again. Anyway, so got a good topic for today. SPEAKER_00: Alright. SPEAKER_04: I've been dying to go down the rabbit hole on some topic, so Well, I don't know if well, knowing you, you'll you'll find a place to jump off in that hole somewhere. SPEAKER_00: I've been needing to jump off in the rabbit hole. I just haven't been given the topic. SPEAKER_04: Well, I don't know if this one will do it or not, but it's a good topic, and I think it's very informative for people. Okay. Matter of fact, we were working on it with you earlier, and I had this thought in mind prior to you even bringing up the topic this morning. SPEAKER_00: It usually does work that way, right? SPEAKER_04: Yes, it does. Because, you know, and here is the topic. Are you allowing a fear or an unknown or a hesitation to not allow balance into traumatic events in your life? SPEAKER_00: Uh so can you say it differently? Oh I'm confused. SPEAKER_04: Well, like say for this is say for example. SPEAKER_00: Okay. SPEAKER_04: Um I don't know why this is coming in mind, but you have a car accident. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_04: And you now have a continuous fear of being in another car accident. SPEAKER_02: Okay. SPEAKER_04: No matter if it was your fault, somebody else's fault, just weird happenstance, whatever that is, do you carry that fear of the car accident happening again and not allowing it to be okay if it does? And so, because we have as humans, we get this idea that when something happens traumatic to us, we must hang on to it and completely pendulum to the other side and be like, okay, I'm not gonna allow this to happen in my life again. This is not gonna happen. SPEAKER_00: And so, what are you saying is the outcome of doing it that way? SPEAKER_04: Um, it doesn't release the energy. You're hanging on to that energy. SPEAKER_00: Right, but then what happens in your reality? How does your reality look? SPEAKER_04: Well, when you when you hang on to an energy, we all know what you think about, you bring about, and it will feed back into your reality if you if you continue to hang on to that traumatic energy. SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, I was trying to get you go in a different direction. SPEAKER_04: Okay, well, but then just say it. SPEAKER_00: No, I was just saying if you were gonna go there. Because what it can also do is prevent you from being able to rewrite the story. SPEAKER_04: Yes, that's a good yes, that's where you're trying to get me to go. SPEAKER_00: If yeah, if you're hanging on to the story of the traumatic event, and that's how you're living your life, you won't allow yourself to open up to the multiple possibilities of how the life could look in that topic. SPEAKER_04: Yep. SPEAKER_00: Because you're just closed off and so concentrating on preventing the trauma from happening again that you're even closed yourself off to the good side of the coin of how things could look. SPEAKER_04: Right. Like a lot of people have a tendency to the only thing they remember is the bad part. SPEAKER_00: Right. And so, like we use your uh car accident um illustration is just use my real one. If well, let me just go in this direction right quick, just to clarify. If you have the accident at the corner of uh, I don't know, Bay and Crown Street. SPEAKER_04: Yeah. What what odd names? How did you randomly come up with those names? Bay and Crown. SPEAKER_00: It's not me. Yeah, it's a channel, and you're terrified of going to that corner, and there's now a fall festival going on in that section, and there's an item that you've asked for that you need and want, and spirits put that together divinely so so that you can interact with not only the human that has it, but having the thing that you've asked for. But you are absolutely hell-bent on never going to that corner again because you're carrying the trauma of the accident with you and not and trying to control not having an accident again by eliminating even going to that neighborhood. Right, then you will completely miss out on the divine input of having the very thing that you've asked for. SPEAKER_04: Right. SPEAKER_00: Because the market's on that corner, then you see how it would create blocks of you being able to see or hear or follow the breadcrumbs of something that you're asking for and how it could intertwine rabbit hole kind of thing. SPEAKER_04: Well, I'd say, you know, I did that exact thing when I had the traumatic events when I when I was younger, which the details of how we will will be released in my book called Unlocked. There was a traumatic event that happened to me when I was twenty, nineteen. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: And I didn't go back to that spot until you and I went, what, eight or nine years ago. I didn't go back to it for over thirty years. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: Or for I guess probably twenty-five years. SPEAKER_01: Right. SPEAKER_04: I refused to go back to that spot, even though it was a completely random event that happened. SPEAKER_01: Right. SPEAKER_04: And I had been to that spot a hundred times. But the only thing I remembered was the bad thing. Right. And and I used to have a ton of fun there. I mean, I used to enjoy myself there. And that's what we do with traumatic events, is we remember only the negatives. And like even bad relationships, you'll only remember the negatives because of how it ended. unknown: Right. SPEAKER_04: Instead of the positives of what what went on and why you were in this relationship for so long. And so we become focused on the negative happenstances. And we uh don't allow ourselves to make it okay. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: And because we're because of the fear that it's gonna happen again. SPEAKER_00: Right. And that's part of what I uh take people through when I work with them on their journaling. You know, I love journaling. Yeah. Is uh that's one of the techniques, is whenever you are experiencing a traumatic experience that just has a strong hold on you, I will have that's part of their homework. Yeah. Is go ahead and complete the file. Right. And what I mean by that is go in, revisit the entire traumatic of it section of your life, not just the traumatic portion of it, but the entire, and we'll go with the relationship, for example. SPEAKER_04: Right. SPEAKER_00: I did this on my journey, and it was so very helpful in relationships. SPEAKER_04: I know you got me. SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh obviously uh because I went on a journey and relationships, and I don't mean like friends, I mean like mate uh relationship or uh finding my intimate and I don't empty that's not really even the word either, because it wasn't I wasn't looking for sexual relationship necessarily, but my um what do you call it? My partnership, my love life. Yeah, my love life relationships. And I noticed that I was the common denominator when I explored this part and almost every traumatic event you the person is the almost every is the common denominator if they're repeating it. SPEAKER_04: And this is exactly the topic of this podcast. Way to go. SPEAKER_00: Way to bring it right back around. SPEAKER_04: Yes, it's the exact topic, and because that's what it is, that's what happens, is you hang on to the traumatic event because for some reason, as humans, we class traumatic events at different levels. Like, okay, like like I worked with this, I worked with this one guy that his he was so scared because his wife ran off on him, she started doing drugs and blah blah blah blah, it's other stuff. And he was so fearful of the running off and doing drug part, he was classifying these at a ten instead of the initial traumatic event as it at a ten. And so he clouded his own judgment and ranked his traumatic events in this situation higher in one category than in the other, in the in the other. And that's what I was told him. I was like, you've got to look at the whole traumatic event differently. You've got to take these rankings down and make them all equal. Wow. Because every step of it is the same traumatic event. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. So where I was trying to go with my piece of it was not just focusing on the trauma part of the event. SPEAKER_03: Right. SPEAKER_00: And I was using racial relationships as an example because what I will have my clients do, which is a little bit different than what you and your clients do, is I make them look at the whole relationship and pinpoint things they did learn, things that were good that came out of it, so that they come out of it educated and balanced, not just lopsided and traumatized. Right. SPEAKER_04: No, I totally agree. SPEAKER_00: You take the whole relationship and you break it into two columns, and obviously the trauma goes in one column because that's right there in your face, and you have no problem identifying it. So you write it down and you get it out. But then you go back and you revisit that, and it sometimes is not it, it's not able to be accomplished in a session. They actually have to take it home, and it has to be homework. Yes. Um, because sometimes it takes them a month or two, even, to really get past the trauma that they've labeled as a tin to be able to get to the point of seeing, okay, what were some of the parts that can be logged as good because I learned something from them. That's where I had to take myself personally in having relationships myself. Um, I like most people had some traumatic events, but I but they were so huge I couldn't see the good parts. Right. The the traumatic events were so big, right? And so it took me several months of doing scientific exploration. I went on a relationship expedition in my own life. SPEAKER_04: See, I I when I work with clients, I do it a little differently. Um, and you know, and guys, if you're listening, then there's you can use either one of these processes, they're both proven to work. But what I what I did, like for this one example I brought up, I said if you're gonna level these, make these level, and this event was a 10, this event was a one, you have to do the same thing on the other side. SPEAKER_00: Are you talking about the negative events that trauma? SPEAKER_04: The negative steps because people are so good at remembering all the negative steps of what happened to this event, yeah, that because of how they're taught. And so I told him basically, if you take this event and you label this a one and this event is a two, and this each step of this entire traumatic event, you have to go through and take the good stuff and do the same thing. Right that'll create balance. You either have to do a this or b, you have to lower everything to the same level and look at them logically. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: Because this guy, for example, had 20 years of life prior to this event with this person. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: And you you gotta look at both of them. So this one traumatic event, we as humans have a tendency to allow it to trump all the good stuff. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: And that is not balance. SPEAKER_00: Overshadow the good stuff. Overshadow. Do you know why humans do that? SPEAKER_04: Um, you tell me, Doctor. SPEAKER_00: Ooh, do let me. So pain and pleasure. SPEAKER_04: That's a template. SPEAKER_00: As humans, we log everything as pain and pleasure. The trip up point is that because pleasure feels good, we don't give it as much credit because it feels good. The pain can sometimes feel so bad or be so heavy of an energy, and it feels so bad. We hyper-focus on it because we do not want to feel that shitty ever again in our lives. And so we do everything we can by by being hyper-focused or hyper-vigilant to try and control not having to experience that pain again, whether it be emotional, mental, or physical. And so we are constantly on that fight or flight, stressed out state about the topic that caused the pain. And red flags sometimes you can get tangled up in. Life becomes nothing but red flags, and you're living life. You wake up one day and realize you're living life as an emergency, red flag, red flag, looking for red flags, looking for the shoe to drop, rather than stopping and reminding yourself to look at the good, to remember the good and see life from that perspective as well, because it felt good, it didn't necessarily hang on because the feel bad feels so much worse. Yeah. And that's why we do it. Yeah, I can totally understand. So you have to be consciously aware of making sure it's kind of like um being grateful and having gratitude. You gotta stop in the now and go back to when it did feel bad and remember now after the cleanup crews come through of that it feels better, and I've survived that, and now life is beautiful or looks better or feels better, and recognizing that with as much fervor or as much focus or as much vigilance as you do the painful trauma, and like you said, giving them equal status in the file folder of life, basically, at least logging the good part of that as a tin so that they're balanced. SPEAKER_04: Correct, which is one of the core teachings that we do in this workshop coming up, but the understanding of when you have this negative traumatic event that you have labeled and then you go through life with a fear of it is so crucial because when you focus on it because it does rank so high in your repertoire of bad things, you know, as as we live in this environment, we have a tendency subconsciously to recreate that environment and energetically. SPEAKER_00: What I'm sorry. I I thought you were talking about a dinosaur when he said repertoire. SPEAKER_04: Oh okay, T Rex. You and your short arms. Anyway, so when we when we allow those traumatic events and everything to not release or not make them okay, because that's what you and I were discussing this morning, is when we have traumatic events in our life and we hang on to that energy, it just repeats itself. Wow because spirit's saying, Hey, you need to do something with this. SPEAKER_00: Right. And it it skews your perspective. SPEAKER_04: Yeah, totally. SPEAKER_00: And what we mean by skewing your perfect your perspective, the perspective is the viewpoint that you hold at the time whenever you're looking at your world around you based on, you know, patterns, programs, beliefs, your experiences. How are you defining the events that are taking place in front of you? That's your perspective. SPEAKER_04: 100%. And when you have the first step of that traumatic event that you've labeled comes into your reality, you start focusing on it. Or you'd be like, oh, I'm gonna avoid it. And I I see this trait in this person, yep, I'm done, I'm out. SPEAKER_00: That's right. And that could be the very person that's coming to bring you the key information on your next step in your journey, but because you're so restricted or closed down to the trauma part of it, you can't even hear this the message or see the sign. SPEAKER_04: That is correct, 100%. SPEAKER_00: Which was our podcast that we posted on Tuesday. You know, seeing the signs of the city. Identifying the signs of your journey. Or maybe that's the one I have to edit. SPEAKER_04: Let's post it all. SPEAKER_00: Anyway, we've talked about signs before. Yeah, that's one of the reasons why you have a hard time hearing or seeing the signs of where to go because you're so focused in on red flags. SPEAKER_04: Right. SPEAKER_00: And you're in such a trauma response loop. SPEAKER_04: And fear. SPEAKER_00: Or living in a fear template, that's what that means. SPEAKER_04: Yep. SPEAKER_00: And that's what you can define that as because what it does is it causes you to look at the world through eyes of fear, right? And that will restrict you from living life. SPEAKER_04: Right. No, totally. And you know, like for what I would say to any of the listeners, it like either using your way of journaling or my way of scoring, yeah, you know, uh either way, you have to look at those equally. SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah, because otherwise your file folder is one-sided, your energy is one-sided. And and like we talked about, you got to give the good the same level of playing ground as you do the bad. That's right. It ties right in nicely to the relationship uh ones that we've done as well, where you've said you can't convict your current relationship for the wrongdoings of the previous relationship. SPEAKER_04: Right. Because that's exactly what you're doing. SPEAKER_00: You're taking that dramatic You're convicting this person of something they haven't even done. SPEAKER_04: I don't think we put that on a podcast. We were talking about that yesterday morning. SPEAKER_00: And this is one of the ways that you can entangle all of that into other sections of the life pie, is like in your relationship. Right. If you've had a traumatic relationship or traumatic events going on in a relationship, and you try to start a new one without being able to educate, I always say you come out of a relationship either educated and balanced, or you come out of it traumatized and damaged. And so you get to choose. SPEAKER_04: Right. And by Well, if your beliefs are clear, you get to choose. Right. Right. Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, you you have to stop and acknowledge Yeah, I had a shitty relationship, or yeah, I had a traumatic event. But am I gonna choose to just be the victim? SPEAKER_03: Right. SPEAKER_00: Or am I gonna choose to be educated in that? And one of the ways is either go your route where it is you you remember the good, or you find the good in that interaction, in that relationship. What it even if the person wasn't good, right? What did I learn from it? And log those as good. SPEAKER_04: Right. SPEAKER_00: Find the good, find the things that you learned that were positive, find the positive in it so you can balance that out. SPEAKER_04: You know, what I liked about it was is one of the exercises that I had given out was if you're gonna rate these as worse, less worse, more worse, whatever, give them a number. And then go through and do the do that for the good side. Right. And then I want you to take the total of each one of these numbers and the total of the traumatic numbers, and then the total of the good numbers, and the good numbers always outweigh the bad. Because we as humans hang on to that. And so when you when we get to that point that you can be smart enough to identify and create the the system that you do, whichever one it is that you use, you'll you'll find out that you're creating this event, which it could be a very bad event. SPEAKER_00: No doubt. SPEAKER_04: But if if you weren't supposed to have gone through it, then you would have removed yourself from it in the first place. Yeah. And I know some people have a hard time hearing that. Well, and that's because you do, if you go through a traumatic event with a relationship and an accident or whatever, whatever that is, if you weren't supposed to be going through it, you wouldn't be going through it. SPEAKER_00: That's right. SPEAKER_04: That's just part of learning. SPEAKER_00: Right. But what gets tangled up or what gets missed, like we're talking about, is if you stay wrapped up in the fear and the trauma of it and not really stopping to go back to school, put yourself back through school and get educated from a balanced state of being, which is to identify either the good moments in it or what you learned on a positive note from it and balance that situation out. SPEAKER_04: Yes, totally 100% correct. SPEAKER_00: Because the situation, yeah, it created trauma experience because it hurt physically or mentally or emotionally, but there was a reason, like you said, there was a reason why you went through it. And so getting aligned with that and finding what the other positive reasons were as to why you went through it is gonna give you that balance uh ability. SPEAKER_04: Yeah, balance ability. You know, because you've said this a hundred times is life is not happening to you, it's happening for you. Yes, and when you can look at it from that perspective and be able to rank your traumatic events differently, you'll quit copying and paste it in other parts of your life because people do that as well. Yeah, you know, like uh, I'll give you one that was not very long ago. My first husband did this and this and this, and then he hit and it then ended up like this. SPEAKER_01: Right. SPEAKER_04: And with friends, with people she's not even gonna date, she sees the first little part, that first step of that traumatic event that she's labeling as a trend of in somebody else. And she's bringing it into all of her relationships, right clicking on it, she's copying it, and she's pasting it right onto this person. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: And then the and then fear, fear, fear. Now you've brought it right into your reality because you're not handling it. SPEAKER_00: Right. And you've got bleed through onto the other relationships in your bubble. SPEAKER_04: And so you've and and living in a fear template is what that is. That is the prime example of living in a fear template on that subject. SPEAKER_00: I agree. And what it will do inadvertently is it will, if you don't deal with it, it'll start entangling itself into everything into all sections of the live pie, the health, the well-being, the money, the everything. It'll start fears everywhere. It'll grow that little vine of fear and and weave it into all those different sections. SPEAKER_04: That is 100% correct. SPEAKER_00: And that's what you and I do for people is we help identify for them where that has gotten entangled and woven into all the different areas, which then creates a reality they view as this is tough or awful, or I'm ready for change. SPEAKER_04: Right. And here's a good here's a good example of that. Is when you are logging a traumatic event in a relationship, you have now subconsciously trained your mind. The word relationship is going to have traumatic events no matter what that relationship is. Relationship with you and your business, you and your food, you and your friends, you and your car. And so that word just travels over here. Now you're bringing negative energy into it, which is why the power of thought is so strong. SPEAKER_00: And that can be happening on a subconscious level, and you're not even realize it. SPEAKER_04: That's 100%. SPEAKER_00: Because in the human English language, as we all know, some words have multiple meanings. SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah. Well, in in every language. SPEAKER_00: So I only know the English language, I can only speak to that. SPEAKER_04: Well, I can give a prime example. You know, there's Greek and Hebrew translations I did when I was studying the Bibles. Yeah. You know, there are certain Hebrew words, like, for example, like the word, we do it all the time. It's on how you say it. Like I've used this one a lot, dude. You say, hey, dude, or dude. It's the same word, but it's the presentation that changes it. Every language that I have ever studied or learned has that exact thing. It's about the presentation. SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's another good asset uh aspect of it. SPEAKER_04: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Uh, but going back to the word relationship, you have relationships, like you said, not only intimate ones with your partner, but you have friends, money, you have money, you've got food, work, work. I mean, that word can mean a lot of different things. And if you've automatically got a belief that there's uh relationships can't be trusted, right, but you've not stopped and given it precision of words, as I always say, and you just clump it all together because of a traumatic, intimate relationship that happened, right, and you're going through a fear template of life looking for red flags, it will inadvertently bleed over and copy and paste, like you said, into other relationships in your life. SPEAKER_04: You know, like uh this is the one that I had with one of the previous guys at where we used to work. You know, his wife passed away. And he was so caught up in the fact that his wife passed away, he created a fear and would literally copy and paste it into everything that he was trying to do in his life because he viewed his marriage of ending abruptly, and it created a failure mindset based on the fear of recreating and so and he carried that over into oh, I'm not getting the surgery because it's what happens if it fails? Or I'm not gonna do this with my his grandson was approaching to him approaching him about uh helping him invest into a business. I'm not gonna do it because it well, what if it fails? SPEAKER_00: Right. So he morphed that all took that a whole thing. SPEAKER_04: Yes, and humans do it. We all do it. It's just we're there's some of us are better at catching it when we do it. SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's what this whole work is about. Is and that's why I always will nine times out of ten, when you ask me, okay, what are the steps when we're talking about a certain subject? Is the most important, I think, and number one step in most of this work. Is becoming aware of it of what is my perspective? How am I viewing this? Because the one once you bring it into your conscious awareness, then we have something to work with. SPEAKER_04: Yeah, totally. SPEAKER_00: If it's still sitting back in your subconscious and you're not aware of it and you don't even know what's happening and you're just on autopilot, then you'll continue to stay on autopilot and just muddle through life. SPEAKER_04: Correct. SPEAKER_00: So you could change our name tags to awareness counselors. SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's actually awareness coaches. SPEAKER_00: Because that's what we do whenever clients book book their sessions with us. Yep. We listen to them talk and we have conversation with them, kind of like we're doing now. Just uh gentle conversations. And when we hear patterns or we hear programming or our beliefs, uh that's what we do. We stop right then and we bring it to their awareness. SPEAKER_04: Right. So, like going back to that example, this perfect thing that I just talked about, his grandson had approached him about helping him start a business. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: And he was like, Yeah, I'm not gonna do it because it's gonna fail. And I'm like, Have you invested in a business before and failed? And he's like, No. I'm like, then why would you have that energy? SPEAKER_02: Right. SPEAKER_04: And so that's where him and I worked through it. He was like, Oh, I see what I'm doing. And like I told him, if you ever have something pop up like that, a doubt, a fear, uh hesitation, a lack of patience, any any of that kind of stuff that pops up, stop and say to yourself, Have I done this before? SPEAKER_00: Right. Is this a viable fear? Is this a viable thing to be cautious about or to be logging this this way? SPEAKER_04: Right. SPEAKER_00: You're exactly right. SPEAKER_04: Because the number one thing that I tell everybody in abundance, when we when I talk to anybody about abundance, and I get it gets brought up a lot. SPEAKER_00: You mean money abundance? SPEAKER_04: Money abundance and financial. They carry this fear that they have been taught that if I do this, then I'm gonna fail. Or if I don't do it this way that I'm taught, I'm gonna fail. And one of my strong points is financial in my energetic field. SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree. SPEAKER_04: I'm very good at creating abundance. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: And when the number one thing that held me back for so many years was the fact that I was trying to follow this societal top beliefs. It does not work. It does not work, it does not work. And and I don't know if y'all heard me or not, but it does not work. You know, uh like hey, I want to ask you a question. SPEAKER_00: Does it work? SPEAKER_04: No, it does not work. I promise you. I I remember when I had no money in the bank and had bills to pay. I remember those days quite vividly. SPEAKER_03: Right. SPEAKER_04: And so when something comes up, be it, you know, like for example, this gentleman that came up, and I'm like, well, have you? I mean, how much money have you lost in business before? Oh, I don't. My financial advisor always tells me, well, there's your sign. How much have you has your wealth really grown? If you want to grow wealth, quit holding yourself back, quit doing it in life, period. If you want to grow abundantly in money, in finance, in relationships, quit copying and pasting. SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah. Quit standing behind yourself, holding on to your shirt. SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's what you know. That's that's a that would be a good idea. That's a t-shirt. That is a t-shirt. SPEAKER_00: That's a t-shirt. SPEAKER_04: That's a t-shirt for the store there with a I can see that that's a absolutely because you know it we do it in relationships, we do it in everything as humans. Yeah. We we classify these events as negative or the societal top beliefs, we give them more weight when we have never experienced them. SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and the unfortunate thing is that a lot of times, I would say more than 50% of the time, the person doesn't even realize they're doing it. No, they don't. It's an unconscious practice. SPEAKER_04: Right. SPEAKER_00: And so bringing it to the awareness, because I'm telling you, the minute you bring it to your awareness and you start catching yourself doing it, yeah, that is absolutely a big component of the healing process of any trauma is bringing it to the awareness because now you understand and you see, oh, you know what? And we have we'll get people that say, Oh my gosh, ever since you brought that to my awareness, I see it. I see it in this, I see it in this, I see it in this. Yep. That happens every time almost. It does. It I would say you're right. 100% of the time they begin to see it more and more and more clearly. SPEAKER_03: Right. SPEAKER_00: And so awareness is a huge part of the work that we do and a huge part of homework that we send home with people. Catch yourself doing it, bring it to your awareness. Right. That's definitely always for me gonna be step number one. SPEAKER_04: And so what I did with him, and this would be a good, a good thing for them. I think step number one is versatile the awareness, like you said. You know, step number two is either A, we're journaling, like you said, or B, creating that level of awareness by labeling everything that you can go back and think of. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: Give it a number. SPEAKER_01: Right. SPEAKER_04: How important is this to me? How important is it? Not how not important is it? Give it a number and then total them up, and you're gonna find out that traumatic events don't weigh anywhere near the good events. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. And I think the next thing would be when you're having that experience, you brought up a very, very cool technique. Ask stop and ask yourself the question. Yeah, have I done this before? Yeah, have I like with the money? Yeah, have I ever lost money investing in something before? Or is it just a total monkey mind lie that I'm telling myself? SPEAKER_04: Have you identified what you've lost? No. Do you believe that things happen for a reason? They always say yes. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: They believe everybody believes that things things happen for a living. I have never met anybody that don't believe that. They have all happen for a reason. SPEAKER_00: Right. SPEAKER_04: But then so why are you holding yourself back? SPEAKER_00: Why have you created this whole storyline that you're afraid of failure or you're afraid it's gonna go this direction when you've not even experienced that? SPEAKER_04: And I'm not saying go out there and and th just willy-nilly live life. That's not what we're saying. SPEAKER_00: Fuck that, I am. SPEAKER_02: I'm seeing that. SPEAKER_04: But what I am saying is this is you know, I have seen so many people lose out on good people for relationships. SPEAKER_01: Or things. SPEAKER_04: Or things, or they won't go buy a truck because they're, you know, our son. We worked through this scenario with him. SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: When he wanted a new pickup. SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: Or you know, it was I'm sorry. Yeah, it was a new pickup too. SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah. SPEAKER_04: We worked with him twice on it about this and buying a new truck and buying a new apartment. SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: And we try to teach him money in, money out. SPEAKER_03: That's right. SPEAKER_04: It's all it all equalizes out. Yeah. You know, like you've got Trump that's worth eight billion dollars, but you know, nobody tells you that he spent four hundred million dollars a a year. You know, that's his cost. People, that's how people live. You don't change the energy. Yeah, you you grow in abundance. SPEAKER_01: Right. SPEAKER_04: So your levels go up. You do it in relationships, you do it in finance, you do it in health. SPEAKER_01: That's right. SPEAKER_04: You do it in everything. And so going through these steps, if you can marry them together, do it in sex. Happens in sex a lot. SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: You know, when and like I told him, so if you believe things happen for a reason, then this is put in your lap for some reason. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: Now what you do with that is up to you. SPEAKER_01: Exactly. SPEAKER_04: But you have to get the traumatic events out of the way and the fears and what you've been taught unless you've experienced it, and some if you're getting a negative thought about something unless you've lived it and experienced it, then you have no ground to in your life to hang on to it. SPEAKER_00: Well, and the other side of that is is that if you are so closed off to experiencing any aspect of it or that situation that uh gets close to that wound, that traumatic wound, if you're so closed off, you won't even allow the healing. SPEAKER_04: No, you won't. And you won't allow the opportunity of anything. SPEAKER_00: I uh have uh I had a client that she had a traumatic relationship, as most people do, and I mean still to this day, she is like it's a battle. SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_00: She absolutely is still staunch on certain things around relationships, and it's bleeding over into uh the other parts of her life. Right. And she she just is like, nope, I'm not doing that. I'm I can't, I'm not doing it, not not not happening. SPEAKER_04: Right. SPEAKER_00: Of course, you know, the salty ass tarot in me is like, well, I don't know why you're wasting your money then. I mean, give me my$65, come sit on my comfortable couch and we're gonna repeat history every week. We'll sit here and we'll repeat history every week. You're you're not gonna allow yourself to heal this traumatic event, so it's your decision. If you want to keep wallowing in the pig sty of bullshit, then be my guest. You know, even down to just what you would consider minor things. Yeah. Um, like the other day we were talking about going on a cruise, and we were oh yeah, conversating with an individual, and they had had a negative experience on being on a boat that they were just very staunch and nope, I'm not going on a cruise. It made me sick ever again. Instead of coming to that place of wanting to level up and do some work around it and come full circle and relax about it a little bit and learn that you can let go of that traumatic experience because look at look at the beautiful stuff you're missing out on. SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah. SPEAKER_00: The cruise ships have advanced in their technology. Yeah, I even brought that up. You're not even willing to go and try the little cruise just to test it or do any homework around it. You're just staunch in nope, I had a bad experience. This is gonna happen to me over and over and over and over. What a closed-off way to live life. What a closed-off way to look at things. SPEAKER_04: It's fear. SPEAKER_00: It's of course it's fear, but you're what I what I'm getting at is you're you're missing out on so many beautiful experiences that you can be having. And that's in just such tiny little part of the life pie is using that example of going on a cruise because you had this experience, and now you've clumped it all together of every experience I go on, which has to do with going in a boat in the ocean, I'm gonna have the same outcome, and so I'm never doing it ever, ever again. And it just is it's just a closed-off way to experience life in general. SPEAKER_04: Right. And you know, in that scenario, I was I don't think people realize they copy and paste their world. And when you're how many other things are you creating that fear of exploring new things in? SPEAKER_00: Yeah, how many other things are you copying pasting in? SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you and because it's just out of habit. Oh, yeah, they will. SPEAKER_00: And it's an unconscious habit. SPEAKER_04: I went on this adventure and I failed and it created a fear, and so now I'm gonna and now I'm not gonna do this adventure because what if? SPEAKER_00: And then they look at their reality and it's not quite what they want it to be, and they don't understand why. SPEAKER_04: That's right. Yeah. SPEAKER_00: Well, gosh, you gotta you you gotta start looking at stuff, right? And you've gotta start looking at how it can enter tangle in other sections of your life and bleed over into other sections of your life if you leave it unaddressed or unattended. Right. It can physically start having making you know symptoms. Oh, totally. It can mentally wear you down, it can take the sweetness out of life, it can change your perspective of being able to have appreciation and acknowledge the beauty of the world around you. It can just totally skew all of those different areas and it will present a whole different reality. That's why the power of thought school is so so important. SPEAKER_04: Totally. SPEAKER_00: Um, because we teach you step by step on what we mean, and we dive into the depths of all of this and show you. It is a process, it is a way we can get entangled and how it can skew other aspects of the life pie just by having this one little baby thought and being so restricted and so staunch on nope, I'm not moving my cheese on this one, not happening. SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and how something else can be entertained. Do you think in this example of the boat thing, you know, the very next sentence was is I never eat. And you know, uh a lot of people don't realize that that's marrying from one thing to the other. Right because you're entertaining nauseous on the ship. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: And now you don't eat properly. SPEAKER_01: Right. SPEAKER_04: Because it's a belief system of I don't want to have anything in there just in case and I'm gonna throw up. SPEAKER_00: Right. SPEAKER_04: And so that's the you know, that's it's all entangled. It's all intertangled. People don't realize how that intertangles into their life when they do that. SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it can. It can all get tangled up and twisted up and connect itself to other things and intertangle all kinds of stuff if you're not careful and paying attention. SPEAKER_04: You know, I'm and I'm gonna push this out there, which I don't normally do. Dun dun dun. I I would challenge any listener that if you have anything that comes up that says, Well, what if? Or again it creates that little bit of hesitation in anything in your life. Look at it. In anything, look at it, and write it down. I don't I'm not normally a journaling pusher, but if you'll write it down and then look at something completely opposite of the spectrum. Say we're talking about relationships, you're having an uh you've had a traumatic experience in a relationship, and you you wrote that down. And now I want you to take the opposite end of the spectrum and go to your relationship with um food and see where they that their similarities. Write those write the the things down in your traumatic event, yeah, and then write it down with your relationship with food, and you're gonna see the similarities. SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so in my process, when I have people journal, we do that. See uh where this might be affecting the other, I call it the life pie. SPEAKER_03: Right. SPEAKER_00: You know, you've got relationship with uh money, and you you've got work and career, and uh, I mean, just all those different sections of the life pie. First of all, we identify what the life pie is, right? But then we have this one thing that creates such a staunch viewpoint. That's part of their homework, is what you just said exactly. Go and ask yourself a question. Where else in my life pie may I be dragging this into that and inadvertently entangling it in? Then the third thing I have them do. SPEAKER_04: You just lost it. SPEAKER_00: I lost the channel. SPEAKER_04: Uh-huh. Well, I guess that was all I need to hear on this podcast, maybe. Maybe it's a continuation. SPEAKER_00: We'll see if it comes back up. SPEAKER_04: Well, the the I think the part of it that everybody needs to hear is hey, we're we're let's kind of repeat the steps. One is awareness. SPEAKER_03: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: Two is find the balance, create the the list of the good and the bad in every topic, if it's a relationship or if it's you know, and make it individualized. And so if you had a bad relationship with Bobby Joe, then write down Bobby Joe relationship, the negatives and the positives. And then if you if you do like the like the client I had, i if this traumatic part of this event was much more than this, then go ahead and write out a number beside them and score them from one to ten, and then add those numbers up. SPEAKER_00: And do you think it would be beneficial to do a subtitle of am I letting that relationship or that experience from Bobby Joe bleed over into any of my other relationships that question? SPEAKER_04: Yeah, totally. I think we're that is correct. Um, because I think the next step of that is first of all, you have to allow yourself to accept and balance that traumatic events out. SPEAKER_00: Right. And give ownership where ownership is due and and take blame away from where it's not net uh how would you say that? SPEAKER_04: Because well, I just want to say that's not deserving, and a lot of people don't like this, but uh I will say this that it's 50% your fault too. SPEAKER_00: Right. But what I'm saying in more of the way of like the example you talked about earlier is in a relationship situation, for example, if this person did something to you, are you blaming the new person when the new person didn't even hasn't even done that thing? Well, I think that's in step three like you said with his investing, yeah, he won't even allow himself to entertain the uh the possibility because he's afraid he's gonna lose out anyway, it's not gonna work out. And you had him ask the question, okay, well, have you ever invested anything and it failed? He's like, No. SPEAKER_04: Never invested anything, he never invested at all. SPEAKER_00: Right, the illogical thing in what you're doing. SPEAKER_04: Right. And you know, what's really funny is right before we left over there, he came to me and I said, Hey, how's your son's business, your grandson's business doing? And he's like, Oh, it's phenomenal. He already he paid me back in three months and and he's doing a great job. And he's I'm like, See? Right. And he was like, Yeah, I know, I know. He said, and so now I'm looking at other things that I've been taught this. He was he's because he had all his money in his retirement fund, whatever was controlled by somebody, and now he started playing in the stock market because he was taught all his life that it was dangerous to play in. SPEAKER_01: Oh, right. SPEAKER_04: And so now he's opened his windows and and playing in the stock market. SPEAKER_00: Kind of venture now. SPEAKER_04: And and then he started talking to a woman at the place where he volunteer. Right. And so it's carrying over, it's kind of funny, you know. SPEAKER_00: Allowing yourself to live. SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and uh and crazy, he was in his mid-90s. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: And he was talking to some little some woman that volunteers there too. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. But uh it's you know, are you copying pasting life or are you allowing yourself to live? SPEAKER_04: Right, because that's uh that's what we do as humans, and until you can identify that and allow the balance because that's the last step of this process. Your awareness, your your journaling, your scoring, you're looking at the processes by which you're marrying it into the other slice of pie of life. Yeah, whatever that is. And now the last thing is you have to allow it to balance, you have to make it okay. SPEAKER_03: Right. SPEAKER_04: You know what? It may happen again in your life. News for you, no matter what belief you have, what fear you have, whatever it is, it may happen again. And it's time to accept that. SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and be okay with it. SPEAKER_04: And be okay with it if it does. SPEAKER_01: Right. SPEAKER_04: Because when you what you'll find out is when you make it okay, it normally doesn't. But it could. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: It could. And so that accepting that releases that energy of like, okay, if this happens, it's gonna happen. It is what it is. You know, you hear me say that all the time. It is what it is. SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because if we're supposed to experience it, we will. We will. SPEAKER_04: And if there's something in it that you missed that you were supposed to learn, your higher self's gonna bring it into your reality again. And so what's the use of having fear? Because fear is a useless emotion. It's not even a natural emotion, it's taught. SPEAKER_01: Right. SPEAKER_04: You know, you can have hesitation, you know, and I had had somebody try to argue with me about that fact one time that fear is not natural. Because he said, What about the cavemen? Why didn't they just jump off the cliffs? Or why didn't you know, why did they if they didn't have a fear? And I'm like, well, first of all, you're talking way over your head. You're you know, dimensionally there were cavemen were just a dimension. But the second part about it is no, they didn't have fear. You know what it was? It was logic. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. Strategy and logic. SPEAKER_04: Right. They didn't attach an emotion to it. SPEAKER_00: Right. SPEAKER_04: They just said, Oh, okay. So if I don't jump off this cliff, I'm logically minded enough to say that's gonna hurt. SPEAKER_00: Not gonna end well. SPEAKER_04: No, not gonna end well. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: But they didn't not do it because they were scared to do it. SPEAKER_00: Right. SPEAKER_04: Cavemen weren't scared of anything. I mean, heck, they fought dinosaurs for God's sakes. You know, so maybe, you know. You know, but if you go off the historical books, but but making it okay. SPEAKER_00: Like they But they well, I mean, what about that show where there's these ranchers that are finding dinosaur bones on their property now? SPEAKER_04: Yeah, in the States I went in a different direction. That was in Idaho. SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know. SPEAKER_04: Wow, huh? SPEAKER_00: We we came across that little series, and I was like, oh my god, who would have thought it? SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I know, right? And then they found a couple stacked on top of each other. But anyway, so the to finish out the podcast since we're getting there, the you know, the last thing keeper. Well, I have to. The part of it that nobody does is they don't allow it to be okay in their life. SPEAKER_01: Right. SPEAKER_04: You want success, remove the crap in any topic. SPEAKER_00: Absolutely. SPEAKER_04: You have to make it okay. Yeah, listen. I'm gonna I'm gonna alright, I'm gonna give this gal a chance. I'm gonna I'm gonna date this gal. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: That's what I did with you. I'm gonna give this gal a chance. You're just playing. SPEAKER_00: But when you let me take this old crazy gal, this gypsy, homeless rag muffin of a gal. Um let me give her a chance. Let me see if I can drag her around for a while and see what happens. SPEAKER_04: When we first started dating, I remember that jar was on my bar. I always had a jar that had thousands of dollars of cash in it. Thousands. And she walked in one day, she's like, I got one question. Are you like a drug dealer or what? SPEAKER_00: Right. SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, What why do you ask that question? And she's like, Because I've never known anybody that just puts thousands or you know, thousands and thousands of dollars of cash in a jar, sitting openly in a glass jar that you can see into. SPEAKER_01: Right. I'm like, exactly. SPEAKER_04: It's just there in case I need it. So it was so funny. Yeah, but because I had balanced out that part of my life. SPEAKER_01: Right. SPEAKER_04: And I was working on the relationship thing, and then you came in and and it balanced quite well. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: But I I really did, you know, say that to myself. I wasn't, you know, and you laugh. I did say, Yeah, I'm gonna give this cow the chance. That's when I got out of the truck, came over, and kissed you in the car. SPEAKER_00: Right. Yeah. SPEAKER_04: That's exactly what I did. SPEAKER_00: Because after you and I said our goodbye greetings, uh, and you didn't kiss me. The salutations. Yeah, salutations. I was like, oh, this guy's weird. I don't, I don't know if this is gonna go anywhere. First of all, he took me. So my criteria, we'd been talking on the phone for a minute, and we finally, I say a minute, you know, maybe two or three days for what a couple of weeks. SPEAKER_04: No, it was like two days. We talked once for like 15 minutes because you had to go away. SPEAKER_00: A couple of days or whatever. And you'd said, well, you wanna meet up somewhere. SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you want to go have dinner or something. SPEAKER_00: I said, sure. But here's the criteria. Listen, uh, because I had long hair and I only wash it like once a week. I do not want to go anywhere in some dumb dive bar that's smoky where I'll have to wash my freaking hair. Because at the time, listen, you guys, I was living out of my car, and it wasn't easy to go and wash my hair every damn day like society says you have to. SPEAKER_03: Right. SPEAKER_00: Like I was having to get, you know, go to a friend's house and wash my hair, or like I just needed life to be simple, simple life. SPEAKER_04: And you it was a choice, by the way. SPEAKER_00: It was. I went homeless to have uh a freedom experience and to untie, kind of go semi-off grid from everything after the kids went off to college and everything. So it definitely was a choice. Anyway, long story short, I gave him all these criteria and these rules. I don't want to go into some junky ass dive bar where it's all filled with smoke, and I leave with my long hair. I helped her clear some things, smoky and shit. I don't want to do all that crap. SPEAKER_04: And where do I take you? SPEAKER_00: And where the fleep does he take me? SPEAKER_04: To a biker bar. SPEAKER_00: I pull up to this damn place, and I literally, you guys, almost didn't even get out of the damn car. Because I was at a point in my life where I was okay if I had a relationship, but I was okay if I didn't. SPEAKER_04: That's balance. That's exactly what we're preaching today. SPEAKER_00: That's right. That's right. SPEAKER_04: I was the same exact way. SPEAKER_00: Before in my life, I had never gotten to a place where I was okay not being in a relationship. SPEAKER_03: Right. SPEAKER_00: And I had finally done the work, got off my ass, did the homework, found the common denominators, looked at things, do the very steps that I am sharing here on the podcast today. And I know this is going long, but I think it's pertinent. And I was fine not having you in my life or having you in my life. Yep. So therefore, I confidently said, Yep, we can meet up, but here's my boundaries. And him being the challenger that he is, which we still do this to the to this day. We play around and banter with each other. He says, Okay, meet me. SPEAKER_04: I'll send you a ping. SPEAKER_00: Meet me here. Let me give you the ping. I pull up in this parking lot, and it is a dive backward. SPEAKER_03: I am a biker, man. SPEAKER_00: It is a damn dive. You get out thinking you're gonna get shanked for God's sakes. I'm like single biker. Sketchy ass back alley bar. I don't even know if I'm I I I'm almost afraid to even get out of the damn car much less walk in this place by myself and meet this complete stranger. SPEAKER_04: I was sitting at the bar already because everybody knew me there. SPEAKER_00: But what it did was I had to clear societal programming and basically stop judging the book by its cover and know that I sat in the car for a minute and I really had to check in with my council members and my higher self and my guidance. Um, because societally you're taught, oh, female, don't go into this eerie looking, junky ass place. So I did. I you're right. You set me in emotion to clear some shit. SPEAKER_04: Yep, I gave you a spoonful of here you go. unknown: Right. SPEAKER_00: So I finally was like, okay, you know what? We're doing this. I trust my guidance. I know that if I were in danger, I know my counsel will guide me away from that. I wouldn't be sitting here if I were supposed to, you know, not, or if if I was gonna die today, bullshit. And if I'm supposed to die today and this is where I'm supposed to do it, then it was divinely guided, and I trust that. And and I and I do to this day, trust my guidance wholeheartedly. So I got out of the damn car and I went in. SPEAKER_04: First thing she said to me when she sat down is I told you not to bring me to a smoky dive bar. I said, Okay. There's the door, basically, bitch. I was like, This is me. You like me or you don't? SPEAKER_00: Like at this salty ass. I see. Okay, let's play. SPEAKER_04: And we did. SPEAKER_00: Let's play, let's dance. SPEAKER_04: We did not spend a night apart since. SPEAKER_00: We have not. SPEAKER_04: It's been uh fun. SPEAKER_00: We have not. SPEAKER_04: It's been a good ride. I cannot uh complain at all. SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it has. SPEAKER_04: But what it does is it is that right there is a prime example of how your guides work. unknown: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: Just because you have a fear. SPEAKER_02: Right. SPEAKER_04: And if you're aware enough to stop and say, you know what? I trust my instinct. I trust trust that spirit allowed me to first of all bring this into my reality. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: And second of all, is I trust my higher self and my guidance to get myself out of the situation that I put myself into. SPEAKER_00: Or be okay in the situation. SPEAKER_04: Or be okay within it. Because I generally speak, you make the stories bigger than they really are. SPEAKER_00: Here I am, afraid to get out because I'm afraid I'm gonna be physically injured or end of life. Yep. And I just finally I was like, you know what? I trust my guidance. So if this is where I've come to die, then so be it. So it's okay to stay, it's okay to go. SPEAKER_04: It is. And that's balance, and that's where I think we end this at is you have to allow balance in everything that you have. SPEAKER_01: That's right. SPEAKER_04: And if you go through the steps that we just give you and identify Those fears, you'll find out what's holding you back. SPEAKER_01: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: Because that is what's holding you back in life. 100%. Absolutely. It's the only thing that holds you back because your higher self and just your mission here in this life is to have experiences. SPEAKER_02: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: And when you are fearful, fearful of engaging in any new experience, if it's brought into your reality, it is there for a reason. SPEAKER_02: That's right. SPEAKER_04: And when you don't look at it and or don't give it the opportunity out of out of societal thought or beliefs or even experience. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: If you don't give it the opportunity, then you cannot rewrite the history. SPEAKER_00: That's right. SPEAKER_04: And that does not create balance. SPEAKER_00: Or have an experience. Yep. Or even have a new experience so that you can balance out the energy of the previous experience. SPEAKER_04: I like one thing. There the Dr. Phil, he always says this, and I like the way he says it. Um and he always says the best pred predictor of future behavior is past behavior. Because he they just don't say this part. This is because you carry beliefs. SPEAKER_02: That's right. SPEAKER_04: And you're and it's you you know, he uses it a way to stereotype people. Yeah. But the saying itself needs one more phrase. SPEAKER_00: It does. SPEAKER_04: Because you bring beliefs with you. SPEAKER_00: You copy and paste your beliefs right into the next moment. SPEAKER_04: Yep. And so when you can look at it in that way and don't turn your head on opportunities in life, be it food, relationships, money, friendships, business, whatever it is, don't you don't side-eye it. SPEAKER_00: So you know what we are. What we're the control alt-delete of your copy and paste programming. SPEAKER_04: There you go. SPEAKER_00: Hey, I like the way you like that computer linked out. SPEAKER_04: That's very good. unknown: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: Anyway, hey, um, y'all don't forget to like, follow, and share. Leave us a comment if you like the podcast. Leave us a comment on there and share it on your Facebook page or whatever you want to do. Absolutely. We appreciate everybody's attention to our podcast. Don't forget the Salty Tarot app will be out soon. SPEAKER_00: That's right. SPEAKER_04: Uh go to www.the salty tarot.net and subscribe there, and we will notify you when the app drops into the into the stores. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. Very quickly coming. SPEAKER_04: Yes, it is coming quickly and growing rapidly. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. SPEAKER_04: And uh check out our website, www.themerchcenters.org. And also that we have a Discord channel for the Salty Tarot. And uh if all you have to do is go to Discord and search the Salty Tarot, and uh you can join that channel that way because they too will be notified of the drop time. We're on Facebook, Instagram, everything, so you can look us up. We hope that you will download the app when it comes out. SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's gonna be so much fun. It already is so much fun. We're getting to kind of see snippets of it with the dual developers. SPEAKER_04: What a did not know it was this entailed to develop. SPEAKER_00: I didn't either. SPEAKER_04: And what a fear it created in me in the beginning. Wow. Really? Yeah. I was, I mean, all the stuff I had to create. SPEAKER_00: Yeah. And had to learn. SPEAKER_04: I was like, I'm old. I can't learn new stuff. Teach an old dog new tricks. You're old. That's what came in my head. SPEAKER_00: I better get on uh what was that? Okay, cupid. I better get on a book. SPEAKER_04: You better give me a replacement. SPEAKER_00: Find my replacement parts. SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you may be able to 3D print them now. Who knows? SPEAKER_00: Oh, good thinking. SPEAKER_04: Or you know, AI exists. You can have an AI boyfriend on your phone. SPEAKER_00: Ah, AI 3D printing. You might be on to something there. SPEAKER_04: That's my technology. Technology. Yeah, that mind. Anyway, hey, uh, thank you all for listening, and I hope you all really truly listen to this podcast because it will change your life. SPEAKER_00: It is. SPEAKER_04: Have an awesome day. SPEAKER_00: Love ya, and then you can't.