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Speaker 1: Good morning, dr
Jenny.
Good morning, how are you today
?
Speaker 2: I am absolutely
spectacularly stupendous.
Speaker 1: Spectacularly I
couldn't even say that word
Stupendous.
Spectacularly I couldn't even
say that word Spectacularly
stupendous.
My S-hole is going off today.
Speaker 2: Oh no, Inflammation
of the S-hole.
Speaker 1: Yep, the S-hole is a
little crazy today.
Great Thank God for editing.
Speaker 2: Thank God for our
editor.
Bless her little heart.
Speaker 1: Well, we've been
embarking on some new endeavors,
doing some things that are fun.
Speaker 2: Indeed, we have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 2: We're following our
new and latest enjoyment.
Speaker 1: Enjoyment and
adventure.
Speaker 2: I like it yeah.
Speaker 1: It's going to be lots
of fun.
Pay attention, stay tuned,
you'll.
You'll know, really really soon
, yeah we got some stuff coming
out that we'll plug on here and
let y'all know about it when
it's ready right but with that
comes my topic today.
Do tell, hmm, how do I want to
word this?
Like, oh my God, excitement.
Speaker 2: Like, really Okay.
Speaker 1: I almost can't
contain myself.
Speaker 2: You need a bigger
container.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
I got to let my excitement to
container get bigger.
But no, my topic today is based
around.
Speaker 2: that is about, you
know, finding your lighthearted
fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know and
how good it feels to feel like
you're accomplishing something
new.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And allowing those
doors open and the creativeness
that comes behind it.
Speaker 2: And it is very much
fun.
Yeah, so I think that is a
beautiful topic because what it
is the intention is to, I think,
show people how to identify a
new enjoyment, how to conquer
any beliefs that come up around
it and continue to move forward
one step at a time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because I think what
we're going to divulge in this
conversation is our different
perspectives on what the journey
has looked like this far for
each of us, because I've had
some monkey mind stuff pop up.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've had a lot of
it pop up.
Speaker 2: And rightfully so,
because it's not only enjoyable
but it is, for me, helping me
kind of clean out my house.
And I don't mean my actual
house, I mean my temple, my mind
, body, soul.
Speaker 1: You know what brings
it to me?
It's kind of bringing me back
to my childhood, because and I'm
going to talk about it a little
bit openly yeah, Ever since I
was a kid, my grandma, grandpa,
my parents, all of my friends
used to tell me I could sell ice
to Eskimos.
And I've been a salesman pretty
much all of my life.
Speaker 2: I tell you that all
the time, even now.
Speaker 1: In my in the part
about it.
I think that's been fun is I am
really good at sales.
Speaker 2: You are.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter
what, it doesn't matter if it's
retail, if it's food, if it's
real estate apartments, whatever
you know commercial real estate
, residential real estate,
apartments, food, I mean I've
been in all aspects of those
things all in my life and every
time I've been very successful
at it and like, for example, I
just broke the 450th apartment
that I've sold for the company I
currently work for, which is a
value of $138 million in
business value.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 1: It is, that's a ton,
that's a lot of value, and it's
not just in sales, because it's
a the unfortunate thing is is
that Well, we're not bringing up
negatives.
No, your employers never
recognize it.
They don't recognize that stuff
.
Speaker 2: This is just part of
monkey mind for me on your
individual journey is.
I look at that and I say you
know, the sparing part of it is
is that you know how much of
that did you get to put in your
pocket.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know, and
that's where I'm.
I mean, don't get me wrong, we
make phenomenal good money off
of it, but it could be a lot
better.
It could be a lot better, but I
don't want to bring that into
focus.
What I want to bring into focus
is the monkey mind behind it,
because everybody always asks me
what I do, and so I started
really looking into it for the
last few weeks, because we've
got an intern that's working
under me and he is a sponge of
him.
Speaker 2: He wants information
constantly golly, he is, man he
is, and so bob square pants.
Speaker 1: It made me think
through my process and what I do
.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: And I created this
method because and it worked
already for him I'm creating a
book and a seminar online and I
gave him a draft of the book.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the next day he
sold.
He made his first sale.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Using that method?
He's like yeah, I made it more.
He's like I focused on chapter
two.
Yeah, using that method.
He's like yeah, I made it more.
He's like he's like uh, I
focused on chapter two.
Yeah, and that's all I did.
And he said the rest of it did
itself.
That's right and that's exactly
what the method is about, right
, and it's an exciting thing,
because when you do it the way I
do it, you're not selling.
No no, you're, you're becoming
what they need right, and it's
becomes an energetic exchange.
But it's been so much fun kind
of reliving this because it
brought back some old memories
of when, you know, I went to
grandpa one time and asked him
for money.
He gave me two dollars.
I was like grandpa, I need, I
need twenty dollars because my
friends are going to the arcade.
He said here's $2.
Go figure out how to turn that
into $20.
Speaker 2: Right, very nice.
And frustrating at the same
time.
Speaker 1: I was like what do
you mean?
You know, he said think, Use
your head, Think about it.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: I went down to the
dollar store.
I rode my bicycle five miles
because everybody was going to
the arcade that afternoon and I.
I rode my bicycle five miles
down to the little convenience
store and I bought, uh, one of
those little plastic containers
of country time lemonade.
And then I went.
I went in the back of the
convenience store right there
and I took all their styrofoam
coffee cups out of their
dispenser.
Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
Speaker 1: With the lids and I
went back home I took my
grandpa's little folding table
and a couple pieces of paper and
I sold lemonade for a quarter a
cup.
Speaker 2: And the police let
you.
Speaker 1: No, I sold it in the
little place where we lived out
there in the country.
I went up to the roadside
because we were.
I mean, I lived about a mile
off the highway and I went to
the highway because, right,
there was like a little pull-off
section.
Everybody pulled off on.
Yeah, and I put my big lemonade
container up on the top there
because I used them in a bucket.
Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
Speaker 1: I went out to the
shed looking for what I could
figure out.
Oh my God, and by golly I was
figuring this out.
Speaker 2: Don't listen if you
work for the FDA.
It was a brand-new minute
bucket.
Speaker 1: It was never used.
I was figuring this out.
Don't listen if you work for
the FDA.
It was a brand new minute
bucket.
It was never used.
It was brand new and it was
like this.
It wasn't a styrofoam one.
Do you remember them old
plastic ones that?
Speaker 2: had a flip top on
them yeah.
Speaker 1: I pulled the insert
out of it and I made the
lemonade in that, okay, and then
I brought was a.
It was a hard because I was
doing all this on my bicycle oh,
bless your baby and I think I
was probably 10 or 11, maybe 12,
I don't remember and I go down
there, I'm running back and
forth, I got tables and and I
get a one of the ladles out of
my mom's drawer yeah and a big
wooden spoon and I would go to
the neighbor's water hose and
that there was a house like
right on the corner and I took
my bucket, wooden spoon and I
would go to the neighbor's water
hose and that there was a house
like right on the corner and I
took my bucket over there and I
filled it with water, I went
over there, I poured the
lemonade in and I stirred it
right there at the spot okay and
I and I had this paper sign and
but you couldn't, you couldn't
even see it when they drove by
and I was sitting on my bicycle
just waiting and then people
were driving by, honking you
know, and then the truck turned
around.
There was this like Chevy pickup
that turned around and came
back and pulled in.
Well, it caused like three or
four people to pull in and I was
like, listen, I just made the
lemonade and it's really good,
but if you'd like to have some,
it's not cold.
I made it for you.
And the guy was like, well, how
much is it?
I said it's a quarter cup.
He bought three cups full.
Oh, are you crying?
I just was throwing it all out
there to him and it was such a
fun experience and I enjoyed it.
And what made me so happy in
the moment is I turned that $2
into almost $40 in like three
hours.
It was the most incredible
moment I'd ever had in my life.
Why are you crying?
I don't know, because it was a
happy time for me, yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds
very sweet.
Speaker 1: And so I just wanted
to go with my friends to the
arcade and nobody had any money.
And my grandpa had money I find
out later but I was just trying
to figure out a way to go with
my friends because my friend,
brian, invited me and I wanted
to go.
You know, because I was the low
kid on the tonal pole.
I didn't have the money, I
didn't have the things that
their parents provided them.
And I mean don't get me wrong I
had a cool, fun life.
I got to explore and do
adventurous things that a lot of
those guys didn't Like.
Those guys never sold lemonade
on the side of the highway Right
.
Speaker 2: Out of a minnow
bucket.
Out of a minnow bucket and
stolen Starbucks.
I did.
Speaker 1: I stole the entire
sleeve.
And then about.
You know, I actually ran out.
I had to run.
How did?
you navigate that I went back
down to the store, and they'd
already refilled it.
That's why I took more, but
I'll tell you what I did
afterwards, though, and so,
three hours later, I've got like
40 something dollars.
I had all these people that
were talking about it and they
were calling me cute and all
those other things, and, but
what it caused in me was
understanding when you're
authentic behind it and you have
the energy of purity, purity in
it.
It creates a feeling back and
forth, an energetic connection
and energetic transformation.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
Then I realize that now Right,
because here's the kicker to
that is, after I got done, I had
$40-something, I think I had
$42 or whatever, which was
awesome A lot of money.
Speaker 2: It was a lot of money
.
Yeah, At that age that's a lot
of money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like
say that would have been 1982,
83.
Speaker 2: Right, say that would
have been 1982, 83, right and
uh, because you know I remember
seeing advertisements and stuff
about people selling lemonade
for a nickel golly gee, that's
enough to buy a flux capacitor,
I know right and I went down
afterwards, after I took them in
a bucket back and I entered it
I still had lemonade left, by
the way, had mix left, because
that one container went a long
ways.
Speaker 1: I mean, I got quite a
few cups out of it, oh my God.
And the crazy part about it is,
I will tell you this, the first
sale that I made.
It was a guy, his wife, and his
two probably junior, senior and
high school daughters.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And he gets out and
he buys $5 worth.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: How much were you
selling them for?
A quarter a cup.
Speaker 2: A quarter Okay.
Speaker 1: And I said, oh, okay,
and I was just counting in my
head I was like one, two, three,
four, four, four equals $1.
And so that means I need 16
cups.
Oh my God, that's my whole
sleeve almost.
I don't have enough cups and so
I start making these cups and I
get four cups made.
I put the little ones like here
you go, sir, and I'm sitting
here and he says thank you,
don't worry about it, the rest
of it's yours.
I was like, oh, that's nice.
And on the way back to the
truck, they all four just threw
the lemonade out.
They dumped it out.
How'd that make you feel?
Um, well, it actually wasn't
the way you would think.
It kind of gave me a signal of
those guys didn't buy lemonade,
they were rewarding me for being
there yeah and it's the same
scenario that I do today right
when you put it all out there in
a pure manner and your energy
is clean, yeah, and you
understand their energetic
process.
Wow, what a pivotal moment.
So when I get done in like
three hours later and I've got
like $42, I go down to the
convenience store and I went to
the lady behind the counter,
which I know her cause I, my mom
, used to send me up there to
get her mountain doing
cigarettes all the time.
Speaker 2: I didn't sub right up
because back in those we could
buy cigarettes at like age two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mom would call
the store.
Hey, jimmy's coming up to buy
your cigarette.
Buy me cigarettes and I just
want to let you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll send it
back with them.
We'll have them ready.
Same thing with me and my
grandma.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: So I walk up to the
lady behind the counter and I've
kind of got my hands clenched
in front of me and I'm looking
down and I was like Miss Sue,
because her name was Sue,
everybody knew her.
She was Blackie's wife.
Speaker 2: That was his nickname
.
He owned the convenience store
and the bead store.
Speaker 1: There I was like Miss
Sue, I have something to tell
you.
And she said are you talking
about the cups?
I said yes, ma'am, and she said
you know, those cups are about
a dollar a sleeve.
And I said, okay, I don't mind
paying you for them.
I'm sorry, I won't do it again.
And she said next time just
come and ask me and I'll sell
them to you for the sleeve.
Because I heard what you were
doing and because it was before
the convenience store and people
walked up and said, oh, this
cute little boy is down there
selling lemonade.
And she said yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: He's told my cubs to
do it.
Speaker 1: I said, miss Sue, if
I give you the money for the two
sleeves, would you forgive me?
She said, yes, but you have to
sweep the floor too.
Oh, and so she gave me a broom,
I paid her the two dollars and
I earned it off, and actually
she actually ended up giving me
a job at the feed store loading
feed.
Oh, cool, out of that lemonade
stand.
So I got to come up every
saturday.
I mean, I was only 11 right, she
couldn't legally hire me, right
right, but she would come and I
would sweep up after the trucks
came in and I loaded the feed.
That was like it was.
There was cattle, corn and
horse horse grain everywhere and
she had me.
She would pay me $20 every
Saturday to sweep the entire
warehouse.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I, man, I felt
like I was awesome you know,
because you know what else I did
.
I took that $20 and I bought,
bought $5 worth of gum every
week and then at school I would
go to school and I would sell
that gum for a quarter a piece
by the Christmas and the
entrepreneur is born.
Well, you know, it was crazy
because I had this.
It was kind of like you see on
TV, the guy walk up with the
trench coat on, he opens up the
trench coat, he's got all these
watches hanging.
I got what you need, you know,
it was kind of like that, but I
did it in my locker and I had
built cardboard displays for my
gum.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: And I stacked it, I
put a milk crate in there.
And I put a milk crate in there
.
No, not a milk crate, it was a.
You remember the old plastic
pencil boxes that you could buy
the pencils out of for?
Speaker 2: 10 cents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was one of
those and I'd put a cardboard
top on top of it and I would
open my locker in between
classes and they all knew after
a couple days where to go get
gum.
How funny.
And it turned into quite a
lucrative little thing.
You know, by christmas I had
like two thousand dollars saved
oh my god.
Yeah, I started in the
beginning of the school year.
By christmas I had turned all
this money into like two
thousand dollars good grief yeah
, it was kind of crazy, but here
is the.
the really cool part about all
of it for me is, first of all, a
because of my energy exchange
with that first family.
They told the person at the
feed store and this is just a an
example the feed store gave me
a job, that I took the money
from the feed store and I bought
product and sold it and it
turned into quite a little
income for me for my age.
I was like 11 or 10 or 11.
And when I got done with it all
at the school at the end of the
school year, I had saved up
enough money to buy a motorcycle
done, done and and had a little
extra for the summer.
I mean buy gas and stuff because
back guys, back then I could
buy for like 71 cents or 72
cents a gallon for the
motorcycle, so I could fill my
entire motorcycle for a dollar.
It was kind of fun, wow.
But the coolest part about it
is that the way everything
linked together.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And that's what
energy does.
Right right right and it was a
very much a fun time for me in
expansion, and this book talks
about the energy of sales and
how you sell in a way that makes
people talk and come back to
you.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Because I started
doing the lemonade stand on
Sundays and after church I'd
have people everywhere wanting
me to give lemonade, to the
point where I hired my friend
Billy.
He would come and help me scoop
them up and hand them out, and
I paid him five bucks every
Sunday to do that with me.
Speaker 2: Did you stay with the
Minibucket or did you upgrade
your equipment?
Speaker 1: No, I used the
Minibucket.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, did you
go to Miss Sandra and buy your
sleeves of cups, miss Sue?
Yeah, oh, miss Sue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Miss Sue.
Yeah, I went to Miss Sue.
Every when I left Saturday, I
would buy my cups for the Sunday
.
Oh my God.
Speaker 2: After I swept her
floor.
How precious.
Speaker 1: I mean it was hard
work.
That was a big warehouse for 20
bucks.
I mean that was huge.
Speaker 2: Especially at 10 or
11.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean um, it
was funny because the first time
I did it she walked through
there.
Well, let's check out your work
, young man, we're walking
through the, you know.
She's like, oh, you miss them
here, you miss them there, you
know, but I get it, I understand
, you'll get better at it.
I just just want you to pay
attention to the corners, okay,
and see, here you go, here you
go, young man, here's your 20
and left.
And it was the coolest thing
really.
It really built that.
You know.
I realized back then that
things were happening that I
couldn't understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I didn't know
what they were and it was a.
Speaker 2: I think that happens
in childhood a lot more than the
parents or the grownups realize
.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: And I think the
difference between the children
and the adults is that there's a
lot of things that happen in
childhood that we don't
necessarily understand as
children but, we're okay with
not needing to fully understand
it, to continue to just follow
the steps.
Yeah, you know, I didn't ever
tell my parents in adulthood,
yeah, and if we could get back
to that premise of and I think
that's a beautiful segue into
this quick conversation I want
to have- yeah.
Getting back to that premise of
following the footsteps, of the
guidance and of the joy you were
having fun in all of that.
Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't at
first.
I was very nervous.
I mean I was so scared to be
doing that.
But you didn't let that hold
you back.
Speaker 2: I didn't you just had
your eye on the prize.
You were determined, and that's
what motivated you or inspired
you to move past the fear of the
unknown or the need to figure
it out specifically, step by
step, what it's all going to
look like before you take action
.
And that's the part I wanted to
talk about, because then we go
into adulthood and we have to
have this formal action plan
before we can even take action.
I sometimes myself even get
jammed up with that, like I have
to have this whole to-do list
and I still, even now, make
to-do lists and check off sheets
and all that nonsense instead
of just following the next
desired step of it.
And as kids, even though it's
unknown and it's uncomfortable,
having the eye on the prize,
which was arcade games or a new
bike or whatever, that is the
just the natural, like you said,
unadulterated version of just
following your joy.
Yeah, without being fearful of
the unknown, without having to
have a fully devised plan, just
going one step at a time.
What does it look like?
Speaker 1: You know, I went and
told my grandpa that word.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 1: And he said something
I didn't even think about.
He was like what would you have
done if somebody wanted to buy
one?
Speaker 2: One what?
Speaker 1: One cup per quarter,
I'm like, and they gave you a
dollar, I'm like.
Oh, I didn't even think about
that.
Speaker 2: Oh, meaning like the
change.
How would I give change?
Speaker 1: Yeah so, but it
brought anyway.
So my grandpa knew what was
going on the whole time.
I so, but it brought anyway.
So my grandpa knew what was
going on the whole time.
I told him about it.
I never told my parents.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
And every Friday after I think
you, I think underneath you knew
maybe why, and I mean I feel
like you knew.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They just weren't
there yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree,
intuitively no, I agree.
Speaker 2: And I remember, you
know, you know where did they
think you were going and had
they not heard it through the
grapevine?
Speaker 1: in fact, then that
nobody.
Parents didn't.
They didn't want you in the
house.
They told you to go outside and
play you're completely right,
absolutely, I mean they didn't
expect me home till dark that's
right, we went via foot.
Speaker 2: If we had bikes, we
went on bikes yeah, I rode my
bicycle everywhere and those of
us that didn't have bikes.
We were the ones running behind
telling the people on the bike
wait up for me, wait up for me
until we could get a bike.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, there's one
thing in all of it I would have
changed.
You know, I never told my
parents it and, like on Friday,
we would go to the grocery store
Every Friday night.
It was like a family thing and
back then everybody did that.
The grocery stores were packed
on Friday night and I would go
to the Hot Wheels and I would
buy a Hot Wheels car and my dad
and mom used to think I stole
them and so it became I had to
hide, hide it and so I would go
buy it.
I would take the receipt in my
back pocket, I take the car out
of the package and I'd put the
car in my pocket and throw the
package away and then go back in
, because they'd always say go
do something.
All right, you know.
Or my dad would go to the
magazine rack while my mom was
shopping and my brother would
help mom.
I would go to tell mom I'm
going with dad, I tell dad I'm
going to go with mom and I would
go do my stuff buying your gum
and your hot wheels.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get your
inventory ready I did that every
friday.
Speaker 1: Man, it was crazy, um
, and he got to where miss sue
would buy, would tell me you
know the double mint gum or not
double mint, but the bubble,
double bubble yeah, yeah, yeah
yeah and she would tell me the
whole box oh yeah so she got to
where she would just order in,
because I would go up every week
and I've just pretty much empty
her box and she got tired of me
emptying her box, right so she
would order you her your own
supply yeah, about three or four
, probably three or four weeks
into it.
She would ask me what do you do
with all this gum?
Speaker 2: and you told her.
Speaker 1: I told her and what
she said she said, well, aren't
you a smart little kid, aren't
you?
And I was like, yeah, and then,
and so I got to where I would
just buy the.
You know, I could buy the whole
box again.
I want to say it was 500 or 250
pieces yeah and I could buy it
for like four bucks and I sold
them for a quarter a piece.
She would.
It was like 485 or five.
It was less than five bucks.
I remember giving her five and
she would give me like 15 cents
back, I think.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But it was a—.
Speaker 2: And you were doing
math along the way.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: I mean look at all
the different components of your
education that you were
bringing into play.
Speaker 1: And then come along
this I had this little girl
named Gail Busby, oh, and then
come along this.
Speaker 2: I had this little
girl named Gail Busby.
Speaker 1: Oh, she would come by
gum every day.
She wasn't supposed to be
chewing gum, because she had on
braces.
Oh, and her dad would give her
a dollar every day for lunch and
she would come to me and she'd
buy a piece of gum, but then she
wouldn't have enough money to
eat.
Oh, my Lord, and she would come
to me and she'd buy a piece of
gum, but then she wouldn't have
enough money to eat.
Speaker 2: And then she got
smart.
Oh my Lord.
Speaker 1: She'd come to me on
one day and she said Jimmy, if I
buy a dollar worth, can I get
five for a dollar?
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: Because then I can
have a piece every day.
Speaker 2: Sub-entrepreneur and
then she would go sell it so she
could have lunch.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, she would
.
On Mondays, she would pack
herself a sandwich that her
parents didn't know about.
Okay, then she would take her
dollar in lunch money and buy
five pieces of gum, so she'd
have one piece every day for the
week, okay, and so many of the
kids started doing that, uh-oh,
and so I did it.
25 cents a piece, or five for a
dollar, okay.
And so I realized that the uh,
the sale, my sales, like tripled
.
Speaker 2: Okay, structuring
different and I would tell them
tactics.
Speaker 1: I was like y'all
should do what Gail does when
they walk up.
If y'all want gum, y'all are
going to come to me tomorrow.
I want a piece of gum.
Then you're not going to
combine your previous day with
this day so you can eat one or
two days a week when you can do
it this way.
Speaker 2: I see.
Speaker 1: And I told them and
it became just like this deal I
was slinging gum out of my
locker all the time.
It was really funny.
I mean, it was nuts.
I would literally run to my
locker after the bell and I
would stand there, open the door
and I had a sign on it that
said if the locker's open, you
can come and get it.
You know, basically.
Speaker 2: And it was crazy.
What did you make it?
The sign out of Cardboard or
markers on a piece of paper.
Yeah, oh my God, how cute.
Speaker 1: And I stuck it up
there with gum actually.
Speaker 2: Oh my heavens.
Speaker 1: It was a very fun
experience.
It was thinking back on it.
I remember my principal, we had
the, you know when they used to
do the what do you call those
where they would all get the
assembly.
Right, right they would all
assemble like once a quarter.
Speaker 2: He had some kind of
assembly, yeah, and in
elementary we were so excited to
go to assembly because it got
us out of class and got to get
into the gym and we got to get
into the gym.
It was mainly like a
socialization gathering for us.
Speaker 1: Well, mr boffman,
because I carried this through
middle school in high school.
Oh, you did, I did yeah, it
turned into quite a little
lucrative business because I
turned from gum to candy bars,
to yeah yeah, and then we got a
little older.
I would sell beer, oh my god.
But no we're gonna stop there.
Speaker 2: Don't ruin the, don't
ruin the purity of it well, I'm
just.
Speaker 1: you know, I've the mr
boffin made an announcement and
he said at the assembly I think
I want to say it was like fifth
or sixth grade.
He's like we've had a sudden
outbreak of chewing gum in class
.
Uh-oh and so therefore, going
forward, anybody caught chewing
gum in class will get spanked,
and we'll get two swats in the
hallway.
Oh no.
Speaker 2: We'll never forget
your business.
Speaker 1: Randy Highfield
didn't care, Daddy was loaded.
He was like sell me your
business.
Speaker 2: He was challenging Mr
Buffman business.
Speaker 1: And uh, I was like,
uh, don't know, Don't know about
that one and so, but anyway.
So he bought like $5 worth of
gum for me and he went into
science class chewing gum.
Speaker 2: On purpose.
Speaker 1: He did not care that
this guy was, was on the verge
all the time.
Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 1: He wore very
expensive parachute pants.
Speaker 2: Ooh, and that hurts
when you get a spanking.
Speaker 1: He gets caught in
science class oh my God.
And Mr Boffman pulls him into
the principal's office and says
where'd you get the gun?
Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
Speaker 1: Guess what he did.
Speaker 2: He outed you.
Speaker 1: He told on me Shoot,
excuse me, I need to speak to Mr
Jimmy.
Send him to my office, please,
oh my God.
So as I'm walking to the door,
how did his source?
He did After trying to buy the
business.
Speaker 2: Little narc.
Speaker 1: On my way to walk out
the door when the teacher said,
oh, you need to go to the
office, I hear this smack, smack
.
It was randy getting spots in
the hallway dad damn it, because
they would do that on purpose.
Back then they would put you
out in the middle hallway, open
all the class doors and
discipline, discipline somebody.
You can't see it, but they
would discipline them so
everybody could hear it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was an
intimidation thing.
Speaker 2: Right right.
Speaker 1: And so I'm at the
door and I'm thinking that's
Randy.
I know that voice Because I
don't know why they're calling
me the office at this time.
Right, Right.
And as I'm walking down the
hall, mr Boppen points at me and
he gives me that curled finger.
Speaker 2: Oh no.
Speaker 1: And he told Randy to
go to class and I'm like, oh you
you Right, Beep, beep beep.
Mr the principal walks me to my
locker and he says open your
locker.
Speaker 2: Oh my God, Did you
have your stuff out?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, gosh.
And I was like okay, so I
opened the door.
He said has it been you this
whole time.
I said yes, sir.
He said send me your business he
says you know, I have to
confiscate all this right why, I
said why, anyway, this is this
whole story, this is where it
gets outed to my parents and
everything else.
And so he confiscated
everything.
So I went to my grandpa and I
told grandpa about it and
grandpa said he can't take that,
that's yours, he can't take it.
And so grandpa went up there
and got the stuff back and the
principal told him you need to
tell your grandson to quit
selling gum at school.
It's against school policy.
Show me the policy that says
that I am never going to stop
somebody from being an
entrepreneur.
And if your school does not
support that, then shame on you.
That's the American dream.
And this is when it all came
out to my great-grandson.
The principal called my parents
and of course, my mom was like
all over it.
I was getting in trouble and
Grandpa stepped in Mm-mm, thank
God.
Thank you, grandpa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you weren't
doing anything wrong.
I wasn't you can't keep the kid
from chewing it or not chewing
it, or following the rule or not
following the rule.
Speaker 1: No, and he was right,
it wasn't anywhere in the
school policy, right?
Anyway, to make a long story
short, it became the school
started selling it.
They started selling stuff in
their little school store.
Oh, competition.
No, they started offering it,
and so the principal actually
asked me if I would be
interested in running it,
because he realized that he was
wrong.
Speaker 2: Why would I want to
run your store and work for you
when I've got my own business?
Speaker 1: Well, they had things
I couldn't have.
Speaker 2: I did tell him no.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do
it because you wouldn't pay me
what you run worth pretty much.
I was, like you know, I make
more money doing it on my own in
the parking lot than I will in
your store.
Speaker 2: And what did he?
Speaker 1: say he said well,
it's not a paid position at all.
Speaker 2: It's volunteer.
Speaker 1: Well, that makes it
absolutely not, but anyway.
So I actually quit selling at
that time and I started working
at the feed store full time and
selling feed.
Speaker 2: I see.
Speaker 1: It was a pretty good
experience, but it all started
with that one drive just to go
to the arcade and make 20 bucks,
yeah, yeah.
And it's crazy when you think
back through it the excitement
and the feeling it gave me
inside of I was accomplishing my
own goals.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And I was doing this
through a very big energetic
exchange and it created
excitement and lately I have
found that excitement back.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: And it's pretty real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very nice
.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I didn't
mean to like bogart all of the
podcast today.
Speaker 2: No, I think it's a
very good conversation to have,
Because what it does is it
reminds the adults, it reminds
us when we go into adulthood,
when you're trying to find your
passion or your joy or your
purpose, whatever you call it.
In the spiritual world, there's
always this comment of be
childlike, find the inner child,
and never a really good
definition has come about or
example, and I think that you
took the opportunity to give
that statement a very good, not
only definition but clear
understanding of what it means,
when we talk about finding that
childlike person or perspective
of you in your adulthood, to
find your excitement, your joy,
that reigniting that flame
Because, as the child, like I
said, like I already talked
about, you didn't let the
unknown stop you, which, if you
look back at children and you
really look at them and watch
them, they don't they just
because they don't know how to
let it stop them.
When they want something, yeah,
a new bike or a new baby doll
or book or whatever, whatever
the prize is a toy going
somewhere, going to a friend's
house, whatever they will do
anything to get there.
Speaker 1: They will accomplish
their goal and they don't do it
begrudgingly, yeah right, no, I
agree, I totally agree.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing,
even if you, I can remember, as
a child, I would ask to go stay
the night somewhere, and my
parental person's technique was
okay, you can go, but you have
to complete these chores.
Da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
Yeah, there was always chores
Clean the house, and you know
whatever?
Well, because I was so locked
into the end goal, the chores
became non-focal.
Yeah, and what does that mean?
It means I didn't sit around
and complain and fuss about
having to do extra house chores
so that I could go on this
slumber party, so to speak.
The goal I kept my eye on the
goal.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Getting to the
slumber party and doing whatever
it took, and so doing the
chores was just a background
noise that gave that had no
meaning.
Yeah, I gave it no meaning.
It was just a means to an end,
and instead what happens now in
adulthood and I see it all the
time is that the we tend to give
the steps along the journey to
the goal, to the prize, too much
meaning and fuss and complain
about that.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
Speaker 2: And so it's just a
really good reminder.
And then, when you can do like
you did and you know, work past
the fear and of the unknown and
just take it one step at a time,
like you didn't stop and
construct a whole plan, you
didn't even know what it was
going to look like, you just
figured it out as you went along
.
You just figured it out step by
step.
Speaker 1: Even the minute
bucket.
Speaker 2: You know you went and
you found a product Right.
Check, check.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: You then went and the
next logical step was to.
You knew you had to mix it with
water yeah.
You got to have a container to
mix it in.
Speaker 1: I went on that guy's
property.
He had no idea I was doing it.
I mean we won't talk about the
illegal or the there wasn't
nothing illegal about what I did
I mean you took things that
weren't yours, but we're not
going to focus on that.
Speaker 2: No illegal about what
I did.
I mean you took things that
weren't yours, but we're not
gonna focus on that.
No, you just figured out how to
make the things happen, but you
did it on a eat the elephant
one bite at a time concept,
which this is a beautiful
explanation of that the next
logical step was to find
something to mix it in you
didn't quabble with the 10 steps
ahead of that no you just went
and found the best fit for the
next thing that was in need of
being done never wanted to cross
my mind.
Speaker 1: That's probably not a
good idea to use them in a
bucket.
No never crossed my mind, you
just did it yep, and I just need
something to hold my lemonade.
Speaker 2: Follow the tiny
little breadcrumb steps in it.
A lot of times what I'll see is
people will have this big,
beautiful goal of bringing
something to fruition.
And I can tell you along my
journey, I too am in the process
of writing a book and want to
put it into a seminar type
concept and want to put it into
a seminar-type concept.
But I looked at the whole big
thing of it and I was like, oh
my God, how am I ever going to
get all this done?
Because, I, as an adult, am a
list maker that I can check the
little box off.
And so I had to kind of say,
okay, wait a minute, a minute
like, just do the next fun thing
, yeah.
And so I had to kind of tether
myself back or woe myself back
on on this whole thing, because
if you make a 10-page checklist
of all the things that go into
getting this big concept done,
you can steer yourself away from
it and I did.
Speaker 1: I was like In the
sales world.
That's called anchored bias.
Speaker 2: I was like oh, my God
.
Speaker 1: You get anchored on
the steps instead of the goal.
All this done, yeah.
Speaker 2: But as a kid we don't
do that.
We don't, I agree we don't, and
so it's a good opportunity to
just remind people you know what
we don't, and so it's a good
opportunity to just remind
people you know what, when you
have a goal in mind, a lofty
goal, don't focus on the steps
in between having the thought.
Best step and follow where it
takes you, because your higher
self is guiding you along that
path and that journey yeah, I
agree because if you get jammed
up with looking at the whole big
picture, you will sometimes get
the deer in the head like kind
of syndrome and stop right and
I'll be like, oh my god, this is
too much, I can't do all this.
Oh, I got overwhelmed.
And then all of a sudden the
energy changes, yeah, and then
you go into kind of shutdown and
then that project sits on the
shelf collecting dust, yep.
Speaker 1: And there you have it
and it doesn't go anywhere and
the energy fizzles out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think it
was a beautiful story.
Speaker 1: It was beautiful
story it was.
Speaker 2: it was a good time in
my life and this, this new
journey has really brought me
back to that good feeling inside
.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that
part because I mean, don't get
me wrong, we have a great life
and we do things from lemonade
to legacy.
It's a, it's quite an
eye-opening experience of course
when you because I've been you
know like I'm going through the
old thoughts you know of like.
I'll give you another example
that happened to me.
I was when I was a manager for
hardy's yeah there was a guy
that came in every saturday
morning right and he sat in the
back corner of the dining room
and he would have a biscuit and
gravy and a coffee and sit there
all morning working.
And I got curious, curious,
after a couple of weeks of
seeing him every weekend, like
what do you do?
What are you doing back here?
You come in every Saturday,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
And he said well, I'm an
insurance salesman, he sells
insurance and he works all week,
monday through Friday.
And then on Saturday he sits
down and writes all his policies
.
And he was doing it in the
hardies.
And, uh, and then on Saturday
he sits down and writes all his
policies, and he was doing it in
the Hardys.
And then he went to reach over
and I noticed man he had a high
dollar watch on.
I mean he had a Rolex on.
And I asked him.
I said, was that a Rolex?
He said yeah.
And I said, in doing this
you're getting paid.
I don't see, there's no money
here.
You know, there's nothing to be
exchanged.
And he sold for Mutual of Omaha
.
He was the sales manager for
the office in Oklahoma.
That was local.
And he said, yeah, anybody can
do it.
I'm like what, how do I do that
?
And so he said well, I'll tell
you what.
When's your next day off?
And I was always off on Sundays
and Mondays.
And so I said I'm off Sunday
and Monday.
He said here's my card.
Come to my office on Monday and
I'll show you.
And I started selling insurance
on the weekends.
He literally it didn't cost me
anything.
He paid for my licensing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And he kind of showed
me his method of selling and
didn't work for me.
For me it always was about that
energy, and so I started using
where I worked at full time as a
platform To sell them insurance
.
Yeah, here's your burger, and
by the way, why don't you pick
up some insurance?
No, you know what I did.
I took my little business cards
that they gave me for free.
You know the little table tents
yeah I would put them in the
middle of it, you know, because
they were fold together.
I would put them in the middle
of it and all it said on it are
you wanting to?
Is your insurance good or not?
Give me a call and I'll tell
you.
Basically I don't remember the
exact wording something like
that call me and or call me for
the newest insurance, blah, blah
, blah, something right.
And and my phone when I went to
work, when I did the first
weekend I went to, went that
monday to the office because I
was, I was only selling on
sundays and mondays.
That was it yeah because I
worked a full-time job and my
voicemail was full because I
worked in a very busy Hardee's
it was like a $2 million a year
restaurant.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so there was
thousands of people that went
through there every day.
Speaker 2: Right, right.
Speaker 1: And I started getting
all these calls and I was like,
oh crap, I don't know what to
do.
I had to divide them off.
Well, and you, when you're in
the insurance insurance world, I
would give some back to the guy
and he would go meet with them,
and then we split commissions
okay, okay, yeah and so I just
developed an insurance lead
service.
Speaker 2: I never sold an
insurance policy once I see, so
you were getting the lead, I got
my license, insurance license.
They were calling my voicemail
and I give them somebody else to
actually follow through right,
and then you got basically a
commission or a percentage of
the of the payoff that was right
wow nicely done and he told me.
Speaker 1: And I said I said I'm
gonna start selling these at
work full-time.
He's like be careful, because
they might fire you over it.
He said what are you planning
on doing?
And I told him he said that
won't work.
Let me show you my energy,
buddy right and so you know what
I was doing when I was, when
I'd be up mingling in the dining
room, because that was part of
the, where you know everybody's.
So often you're supposed to do
a dining room walk right right I
would.
As I'm walking through these
guys, you see people pick up the
card and pick it up.
I'm like, hey, that guy comes
in here all the time.
Speaker 2: It was just about
energy you know it's about the
energy right, I'm confident in
it.
Speaker 1: They know I'm
allowing it to happen because
they all knew me.
All the customers knew me.
Right, they didn't realize it
was me and so it worked out
quite well.
But it was about the energetic
exchange.
It was um following the next
thing that felt good in it.
That's right and just following
what your intuition tells you.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's right,
not getting jumbled up with.
Oh my God.
Okay, once I do this step,
what's the next one?
What's the next?
Speaker 1: one, Because that
monkey mind you can kick your
butt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just stop right
there, Because that's what was
going on.
Just do this for now until it's
time to do the next thing.
Speaker 1: You know, when I'm
making this, writing this book
and stuff, and I'm thinking to
myself, my monkey mind's always
in ain't nobody going to buy
that?
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody going to
buy that.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody got time
for that.
You know what I mean and it
keeps going through my mind.
But as I got done and I was on
one of the servers I don't want
to talk about the server openly
and I was on one of the servers
I don't want to talk about the
server openly, but I was on one
of the servers and I asked it to
analyze this data and they told
me it was in the top 97%, I was
like, or 92% of its genre.
Oh, what Nice I wrote this Me
Little old me Little lemonade
boy wrote this Me Little old me
Little lemonade boy.
Speaker 2: Is this thing on?
Speaker 1: Hello, is it me
you're looking for?
Speaker 2: Look at me now.
Look at me now.
Look at me now.
Speaker 1: It's very eye-opening
, yeah, and it's very exciting
to be where I am.
Speaker 2: Very cool story.
Speaker 1: It's very exciting to
see where you are Watch.
You do this too.
Go through the steps.
It's going to be fun.
Speaker 2: You'll pay attention.
I didn't go into a lot of
detail, but I got a lot of irons
in the fire as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do.
Yeah, we have multiple books
we're working on.
Speaker 2: Concepts, different
things.
Speaker 1: Anyway, yeah, I feel
good good yeah, I think that was
great that was a good thing.
Speaker 2: Good thing just
remember, follow that child like
yeah, excitement perspective
and forget perspective and and,
uh, try, try it, try it on you
know what I want to do play with
legos no, I want to put on you.
Speaker 1: remember those
glasses that have little springy
eyes?
Oh yeah, so when we tell people
to do everything through
childlike eyes, yeah.
You can put them glasses on.
Speaker 2: Right, I always liked
the ones that were in the shape
of the star.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that had the
different colors yeah.
Speaker 2: I always liked
wearing those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the big stars.
Speaker 2: And they had glitter
on them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I
remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always liked
those yeah.
Speaker 1: I know, I remember
that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always liked
those.
Yeah, that's the key takeaway.
Real quick, just to recap
briefly, is follow your
childlike perspective.
The next best step that feels
right, focus on that and find
the enjoyment out of that.
Don't look at the whole big pie
.
Don't let yourself get tangled
up in the overwhelm overwhelming
of looking at the whole big
structure.
Right, Remind yourself of what
the goal is when you do that and
then say to yourself stop, and
what is it?
What's the next best thing I
need to do right this minute?
Speaker 1: Right and move in
that direction and you know for
me, for me, this is the a bit of
advice I would tell you.
Even if you're, if you're
fearful of it, the monkey mind's
in the way, take the step to do
something like for me on
writing this book.
Yeah, everything, my monkey
mind said I mean ain't no way
going to buy nothing, it's not
going to be good.
Um, and when I got done, I just
went with my gut.
I was you know what?
I'm just going to write it and
then wait, that'll release
energy.
And then I read it I was like
holy crap, I wrote this.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and then
what that does is that
re-anchors or redefines the
monkey mind talk of.
You can't write a book nobody's
going to buy it.
Because you write it and then
you read it and you think wow, I
am.
Speaker 1: I actually wrote that
.
Speaker 2: I'm much better than
I.
Speaker 1: Realized.
Speaker 2: Initially told myself
I was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that will
then Tell yourself.
I told myself.
Speaker 2: What that does is
that re-energizes you, gives you
a new level of energy around
the topic, yeah, which then adds
to that fire or that desire to
do the next thing, and it will
just build momentum on itself,
because then you do the next
task and you do it and it turns
out better than you ever thought
right that then feels really
good and you just keep going in
that frequency, raising the
frequency, raising the vibration
, raising the confidence until
that momentum gets bigger than
the negative talk or monkey mind
conversation.
That's quite enlightening it is
it's beautiful, nicely done.
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