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Speaker 1: Good morning
everybody.
Good morning, good morning Dr
Janie.
How are you today?
Speaker 2: What is that?
That's my high-pitched voice.
It reminds me of that you
remember on.
I think it was on Saturday
Night Live.
Speaker 1: Look at me, look what
I can do.
Speaker 2: The little dough boy
or the little clay boy.
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought it was.
What was that guy's name?
Speaker 2: Look at me, look what
I can do.
Yeah, he was made out of clay.
Speaker 1: Oh, anyway, I can't
remember his name.
Speaker 2: I felt like he had
that kind of voice.
Well, good morning Dr.
Speaker 1: Jeannie.
Speaker 2: You're so weird
sometimes.
Speaker 1: I am weird, that's
okay, I own it.
I prefer to be weird than
normal.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be
conformed.
Conformed, yeah, that's the
proper word.
Good morning everybody.
Thank you all for listening
today.
That's our shenanigans that we
deal with every day.
But hey, I got a fun topic
today.
Okay, this is one that keeps
bumping into my reality that I
keep putting it off because I
don't want to.
I keep putting it off of
societal beliefs, that I don't
want to fall into the trend of
everybody else and what they're
doing.
But who cares?
Right, let's just have fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's what it's
about is having fun, and so my
topic of the day is going to be
fun to explore, and I know our
editor is going to love it.
Oh God, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: Let me apologize
beforehand.
Editor.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk
about conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And what brought it
up this morning was kind of a
well, I've been thinking about
it anyway for a while about
bringing it as a topic because
everybody liked the Are we Alone
podcast.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of a
conspiracy theory.
And there's a bunch of them out
there.
And this morning when we were
having our coffee and we were
sitting out on the patio, the
thing popped up that they're
picking up radio signals from a
dead universe and they're
revealing it and how they
sprinkle the information to us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny, a
dead universe.
Speaker 1: But they get radio
signals from a dead universe and
of course they say
scientifically that it takes
light years for that sound to
get to us Right.
But the reality is is there.
They know a lot more than they
let on, I think, and the
conspiracy behind that one is is
they just sprinkle it to us so
we don't.
It doesn't send us into mass
hysteria, because everybody will
freak out if, if they actually
realize that there are more than
us out there, freak out if they
actually realize that there are
more than us out there.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the
premise.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think we're coming
closer and closer to being in a
place where there's not going to
be any freak out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, I
believe.
So I think we're in that segue
to where it's about to be
revealed to us pretty soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That we do have other
life forms and they've known
about it for a very long time,
just like the UFOs and the files
they released and all that
stuff.
But there's another conspiracy
theory I want to talk about,
okay, and this one revolves
around a mystery for many years
and why that happens, and this
is called the Buda triangle,
okay, and how things disappear
and how things in that area will
just fall off the grid, like
the five um military planes that
disappeared and the all the
boats over the years that have
disappeared I did have wonder,
you know, when we took the ferry
over to the Bahamas, did we go
through that?
We went through part of it.
We did the very corner of it.
Speaker 2: yes, Dang, and we
didn't disappear.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I'm a little
disappointed that we didn't
disappear, even though it was
kind of going back in time.
Speaker 1: It was kind of going
back in time over there a little
bit.
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean like
there's no stoplights, there's
no police, there's nothing there
that really controls the masses
.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the driving
experience by itself was.
Speaker 1: Entertaining, and
that was only on golf carts.
Speaker 2: Quite comical.
Speaker 1: Of course I don't
think I seen a car at all, did
you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw cars
Goofball.
Cars I saw golf carts.
No, there were cars.
There were yeah, there were
vehicles.
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe I'm crazy
.
Speaker 2: They didn't stand out
to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were cars
everywhere.
Speaker 2: Okay, to see a whole
different country driving what,
what, what I would view as
chaotic yeah, you know that
little mall that we went
shopping in, like they have no
qualms about turning in front of
you they don't use blinkers.
Well, first of all, they drive
on the wrong side of the road or
the opposite.
I won't say wrong, they drive
on the opposite side of the road
or the opposite.
I won't say wrong, they drive
on the opposite side of the road
.
And that experience by itself
is very different.
Speaker 1: I think that there
are more countries that drive on
that side of the road than
there are the ones that drive on
the side of the road that we
drive on.
I think the majority of
countries drive that way.
It actually makes more sense.
Speaker 2: You have to train
your mind to make turns
differently and the whole like
looking both ways.
I remember in driving school.
You come up to a stop sign, you
look in the direction of the
traffic that could possibly hit
you first, so you have to like
cross over that information to
do everything opposite.
It's like being in a day of
opposite.
Yeah, it was remember those
days you played uh opposite day
where you'd say things
differently, or where?
Speaker 1: where your clothes?
Speaker 2: inside out, yeah,
opposite day I remember those.
We had those in school it was
kind of like experiencing that
in an adult, in In real life
yeah.
Speaker 1: You know how many of
those houses didn't have power
Like that place where we went
shopping and you bought the
sweatshirt?
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Their power was
battery operated.
You see it all hooked up.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, they
didn't have actual power there.
That's the kind of stuff we
like to explore when we go
vacationing is how does the
other half live?
Speaker 1: And how do they get
power there?
I didn't see a power plant or
nothing.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's kind of an
interesting thought actually.
Speaker 2: Anyway, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no Are they using
Tesla's coil Maybe.
Maybe they're using the energy
from the Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 1: The Bermuda Triangle.
So here's the conspiracy that's
going on and I was reading
about it yesterday, and it's
about the Bermuda Triangle and I
kind of brought it up in a
joking way this morning you did
yeah.
Speaker 2: Did I miss?
Speaker 1: it.
Disclaimer we do not care what
your political preferences are.
Do not care, do not care, we do
not care.
Neither one of us really vote,
so we don't even care.
But the conspiracy theory that
went out was is how Florida
won't have hurricanes for four
years now because Trump takes
over and he lives in Florida and
now, and we've had so many
hurricanes over the last four
years we had three since he went
out of office and they think
that, you know, because the
weather machine's in the Bermuda
Triangle and that's why
everything disappears.
When they get close to that
weather machine that is cloaked
on radar, or these planes or
boats get close to it, they take
them out.
Speaker 2: I think they suck
them up.
Speaker 1: Yes, and they say,
the weather creating machine is
over there and there's also
supposed to be one down by Cuba
somewhere.
Speaker 2: And so they suck them
up because they don't want them
to find out that the machine's
there.
Speaker 1: Nothing.
They want it in no way, shape
or form to be able to get out,
so they will make it all
disappear.
And so now the Trump's in
office, they say that we're not
going to have any hurricanes for
four years.
So I'm going to see how that
goes.
Speaker 2: Okay, so stay tuned,
folks.
Speaker 1: We're going to track
the hurricane existence this
year.
That's our scientific
experiment, and so the the
conspiracy theory is that the
bermuda triangle it's got their
weather machine in it.
When anybody gets close to it,
they make them disappear, and
then they created the story that
it's got this magnetic polarity
.
Well, yeah, it's because
they're getting a weather
machine there.
It messes with the compass,
because every one of the stories
are the compasses went crazy
and they have this weather
machine that creates weather
somehow.
That would be my guess, because
I know they do it over the dry
lands in Nebraska and stuff.
They create clouds up there by
doing some kind of seeding,
cloud seeding or something.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And so that's the
conspiracy theory about it.
Speaker 2: What is the
conspiracy theory?
Speaker 1: That the Bermuda
Triangle doesn't really exist,
that it's actually the military
or the government removing
people that get close to that
weather machine, so there's no
chance whatsoever that anything
could ever get out about it.
Speaker 2: Oh, so that it
doesn't get exposed to the
masses.
Speaker 1: It doesn't get
exposed.
It doesn't get exposed To the
masses.
Speaker 2: Yes, so then, what do
they do with these people that
they suck off or suck up or like
?
Speaker 1: What just happened.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean like you
know I envision them sucking
them up in a little tube, and
what do they do?
Speaker 1: with them.
Speaker 2: They make their human
existence stop.
Like what do they?
Speaker 1: do with them after
they suck them up in a little
vacuum?
Speaker 2: Where do they put
them?
Speaker 1: They shoot them down,
they sink their boats, whatever
I don't know, and they let them
go to the bottom of the ocean.
What do they call that?
You know, something's locker
davy's locker.
Speaker 2: They send them to
davy's locker.
Speaker 1: Okay, gosh that
locker better be pretty big yeah
, but you know they have found a
couple of those planes.
Then they do the conspiracy
behind that.
Now, the five planes that went
missing they had three planes
that went missing.
Speaker 2: That made me tear up.
Speaker 1: And then they sent a
search group to go looking for
the three planes, and of the
three planes, two of those went
missing.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And they.
Recently we were watching that
show where one of those
discovery boats that does all
they do is go out looking for
sunken ships and these stories
supposedly located parts of one
of those fighter jets that had
battle wounds on it, like it had
been shot down, oh, down, oh.
And so I was just curious to
know I mean, is that conspiracy
true?
Because there's almost always
some kind of basis of truth to
the conspiracies and they just
make it either a too extreme
that people won't believe it, or
b they play it down and then it
just disappears yeah, so do you
want to have the rabbit hole
conversation?
or do you want to have the?
Speaker 2: let me keep it clean
so that humans don't flip out,
because there is another thing
to say about that.
But anyway, go ahead, okay.
Speaker 1: About the aliens
under the ocean that when you
get close to their base, they
make them disappear too.
They make the humans disappear
Because it's also the same place
, that Bermuda Triangle is the
same place.
Because it's also the same
place, that Bermuda Triangle is
the same place.
They see all those lights and
the UFOs that go shooting
underwater.
That's all in the Bermuda
Triangle.
Speaker 2: But it's not just
there.
Speaker 1: Not just there, but
the majority of the American
videos are from the Bermuda
Triangle.
Speaker 2: I see, because that's
happening all over.
Speaker 1: I agree, but in
Tanzania they say oh many, many
places.
Speaker 2: They say in Tanzania
that the Mount Kilimanjaro, yeah
, I mean it's happening in
California, it's happening in
Texas, it's happening in other
countries like the UK, like
there's hot spots all over where
it's going on.
That's a.
Speaker 1: So what's the rabbit
hole discussion of that.
Speaker 2: Of the Bermuda
Triangle.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean well, so we'll
trickle down the ladder.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so
everything happens for a reason.
Everything is happening
simultaneously.
Okay, so everything happens for
a reason.
Okay, everything is happening
simultaneously.
So, if you think about things on
a huge multiverse in order for
each individual to have their
experience within reality,
anything that we can possibly
drum up in our imagination
exists, yeah, and what we choose
to do with it as humans is is
just that it's a choice either
we play with it, participate in
it, or we are just oblivious to
it and ignore it.
Based on what we come to
experience and learn from
whatever it is, whatever the
topic is, that's the first thing
to wrap one's mind around.
Is that anything you can?
If you sit right here right now
and tell me the most absurd,
quick little descriptive
paragraph of something you can
imagine it exists?
somewhere, somehow, I agree
because it serves a purpose for
someone, something we're going
quantum physics here, guys.
Speaker 1: That's what you know
to experience.
Speaker 2: And it has to be that
way, because if you talk about
all that is, all that is is all
that is.
Every single thing exists in
all that is, by nature of its
design and its definition of all
that is.
Speaker 1: So maybe we should.
Speaker 2: Literally all that is
Every single daydream that
anybody has had any single
thought that anybody's had.
I wonder if this is happening
or this exists that's how all
that is, grows and evolves is by
putting over souls and then
next level souls and then next
level humans out here with free
will to see what we can imagine
and come up with and bring into
existence, to experience a very
profound, um, like you just
can't even imagine the large
gigatrillion concepts that are
out there, so that we have the
opportunity in the universal
library to experience any and
all of it if we choose to.
Yeah, so everything that you've
said about the bermuda triangle
, it exists.
Yeah, somewhere there's
Triangle.
It exists somewhere.
There's a timeline where it
exists, so that if someone comes
along and says, oh, you know
what I want to experience,
flying over the Bermuda Triangle
in a plane and I want to be
sucked off or disappear, and be
put in Davie's locker, then that
exists.
I want to go into a perpetual
place where I don't know where
I'm at, and I mean that exists.
I want to be able to travel
through there and have the
experience of having nothing
happen.
That exists.
Speaker 1: Okay, so describe
quantum kind of give a quick
description of quantum physics
and what you're trying to
describe, because there's a lot
of people that's probably never
even heard of quantum physics,
and that's kind of where she's
going with this, by the way, is
in this quantum physics.
Speaker 2: Don't tell me where
I'm going with it what you're
describing so far is.
Look at the definition of
quantum physics.
You're a little off.
I am, yeah, okay, a little bit
Okay.
Speaker 1: I thought they talked
about the multidimensional.
Speaker 2: Well, they do, but
I'm not diving into quantum
physics right now.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Well then carry on, my wayward
son.
Speaker 2: Well I'm done, oh,
you are word son.
Well I'm done, oh you're.
Speaker 1: That's all that is
like it has to exist that way.
So what more do you want to
talk about?
We're done, all right, have a
good day.
No, it's good, and so the next
conspiracy theory I would want
to talk about is the so all of
those things, so just to clarify
I thought you were done all of
those you said I'm done, and so
what do you want to talk about
next?
Bye, have a good day.
Speaker 2: I thought maybe you
were going to elaborate on it.
Speaker 1: All of those things.
Speaker 2: Like it's an energy
vortex.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: It is a place where
there are disappearances that
occur because somebody wants to
experience it.
Because somebody wants to
experience it.
It is a place where the
foreigners, aliens, other
entities, go into the water and
live there, work there.
Whatever it is that as well, it
is all of that.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: But at the same time,
it is none of that.
Speaker 1: Now they're really
confused.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm playing.
All that is has to be all that
is, so it has to be all of that
and it has to be none of that at
the same time.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: It has to be just by
design.
That's the way it works.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: That's all you got.
Speaker 1: That's all I got.
I mean, it's not, it's I.
When it comes to that thought
process, I am not to the point
where I can really fathom the
complete complexity of that.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 1: I really don't have
much to talk about on it.
I have.
You know, I think I'm much more
.
I have learned a lot more in
the last few years about it than
I ever have.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's back
up just a little bit.
We'll talk about it on a
different level okay beep, beep.
So it is within the evolution
of the planet and the and the
entities or humans on the planet
to experience an existence
where the unearthing of the
existence of another species
must happen.
And we're on the precipice.
Speaker 1: You're all over it
today.
First we're sucking off and now
we're pushing.
You are all over it today.
But the reality is that they've
already uncovered other life
forms the, the anunnaki this,
you know, the nine foot tall
people that were homo sapiens
they have and and so they can't
the way that it works is it
works like any other topic, on a
on a localized level.
Speaker 2: When we're working
with another human being and
we're taking them through an
awakened state, we have to take
baby steps based on their
beliefs, patterns and programs.
Well, the they has to take baby
steps based on the collective's
beliefs, patterns and programs,
so that it doesn't shoot us back
into a fear template and close
down all of the energy around it
.
So they have to feed it to us
slowly and gingerly and let us
digest one little bite at a time
.
So, because the goal is,
whether you believe, the
government is against or for,
they're the ones that have been
appointed by the galactic
enterprise, if you will, to be
the governing body of how fast
the information gets fed, based
on the entities that live above
us in ships monitoring the
vibrational frequency of the
whole planet and of the
collective.
And so, as the galactic group,
which is made up of all
different kinds of species, is
placed and positioned around the
world in the spaceships that
people are seeing, gathers the
data of okay, where are we at
with the collective frequency,
the vibration?
Has it raised to a point where
we can share this information
and it be accepted in an
inquisitive and curious positive
way?
Or is the vibrational frequency
too low to where, if we expose
this piece of documentation,
it's going to create a fear
that's going to tip the balance
and put us back into a fear
template, which then stifles the
energy of evolution?
That's basically what a
conspiracy theory is.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: And the government,
even though they, for most
people, see them as this
governing body that tells us all
the laws and all the way that
the government's going to go is
their only job.
On a bigger level, they're
brought in to work with the
galactic enterprise to govern
the feeding out of the
information.
When they learned about it
years ago, it was too early to
share it with the masses.
Yeah, Because it would have put
us too far deep into that fear
template too far deep into that
fear template and it would have
been trying to get everybody
back out of.
That would have been a more
challenging journey than what
was necessary okay.
So then the plan became to feed
it to us a little bit at a time
to gradually coax us out of
being fear of that by giving us
little bits and pieces at a time
to desensitize us to that.
Speaker 1: And they always do it
with an explanation, you know,
like the Anunnaki thing.
They said that scientists are
trying to.
Oh yeah, they discovered this
race of the Homo sapien
descendant somewhere yeah and
they're.
They're nine to eleven foot
tall.
Speaker 2: They found them
buried in I think it was in
egypt, right and and they
they've actually found them in
many places, in many places,
yeah, and there's many of the
lithographs, the lithos, have
exposed them as well, so they
obviously were a another being
on this planet at one time, and
so what they do is they they're.
Speaker 1: The scientists are
discovering where they fit into
our evolution and then that's
all they say about it.
Speaker 2: right, because the
scientists have, you know, very
boxed in thinking, and so as we
give the information we, being
the galactic, give the
information to even the black
and white kind of mentality
Scientists we're coaxing them
out of that boxed-in thought
process as well, so that they
can have a broader perspective
and a more relaxed thought about
okay, well, maybe this does
exist, you know, just like the
cryptids, we talk about all
these, the yetis and the.
What are some of them?
Speaker 1: The Mothman and all
of that.
Oh, you mean all the like
Bigfoot, the Abominable Snowman,
Do they not?
That's all conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2: But if you stop in a
scientific mind and look at the
octopus, for example, if anybody
ever watched any documentaries
on the octopus and saw the
incredible, amazing things that
it can do, oh yeah it would.
It would remind you that
everything is a possibility,
right?
I mean, these guys can more
turn different shapes and colors
and colors.
Without seeing what the shape
and color is, they just sense
the vibrational frequency of it
and they become it a rock.
Speaker 1: I watched this video
of an octopus that got captured
accidentally in a fishing net.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And they unloaded it
on the.
You know, they'd always just
dump the fish down on the boat
and this eight, probably eight,
ten foot foot, um, you know,
wingspan octopus that they
showed they picked up the
tentacles and spread it out, and
yeah, and then they, they moved
it over to the other thing and
they were going to release it
after they got all their nets up
all right well, this octopus,
this big octopus I mean it was
huge went through a four by four
opening in the side wall to go
back to the ocean.
Speaker 2: Right, they have no
bones.
Speaker 1: And change colors.
While he was doing it, he
turned into a color of the ship,
and so when somebody walked by,
they couldn't see him.
They couldn't see him, and so
he looked like the black side of
the ship and he just squeezed
himself right through the hole.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they have
no bone structure.
Yeah, existing without bone
structure at one point in our
evolution was unheard of.
Yeah, you can't walk about, or
move about without bones.
At one point was a premise that
scientists had.
Speaker 1: So what if the
cryptids don't have bones?
Speaker 2: They don't Look at
the octopus.
That's a form of a cryptid, I
agree is that's a form of a
cryptid, I agree anyway.
So where we're headed with that
concept, like the bermuda
triangle, is where we're going
into, a place where we relax our
beliefs and our thoughts around
more of a air quote imagination
concept where any and every and
all things are possible, and
not living in such a constructed
confine of our mind that if we
can't see it, it doesn't exist
yeah, you know, do we want?
Speaker 1: I was watching that
show the other night.
What is the name?
Are we Alone?
I think there's several.
Speaker 2: we watch the
Unexplained.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway.
So they were talking about how
they kept seeing these lights
over the ocean and they were
going into the ocean and they
thought that there was.
One of the guys was saying I
think there's an underground
alien base.
Of course there is Right off
the coast of Belize.
And one of the other guys said
does anybody ever notice that
all of these lights are always
headed in the same direction,
like they're all going to a
centralized place?
And and so he, like they,
showed a map of the sightings in
the last three or four years
and how they're all actually
headed in the same direction for
some reason.
And he went, this guy took, you
know, they went out into
discovery and was looking for
this underground base and in the
process of doing that they
found literally what they think
is the city of atlantis.
And it's like it's like got all
the structure, it's got all this
stuff and it goes for like 10
miles.
There's a road there, you know
all obvious man-made road, and
so there's got to be some one of
those things that they're just
sprinkling it in.
Speaker 2: Well, you have to
understand the.
We'll call them aliens, just
because that's what they are, I
guess, to the collective, the
aliens, they go through their
existence based on vibrational
frequency.
So if they're being seen in a
localized place, it's because
the frequency of that place is
high enough for them to thrive
and exist easily.
They won't go into a dense
frequency because their
frequency is so high.
Go into a dense frequency
because their frequency is so
high.
They've got to have a frequency
that matches it somewhat, or
they or they can't exist there,
yeah, their, their physical
structure will just not it, it
won't work, thrive, it just
won't survive.
And so that's why it's
localized like that in certain
places, because the frequency is
high yeah, I get it that's why
it's localized like that in
certain places, because the
frequency is high.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it.
That's the reality of that.
Yeah, and so with the
conspiracies is not only the
Bermuda Triangle, but there's
many of them out there, and I
think there's one thing that all
of them have in common is it
feels like it's a controlled,
released, very methodical way
that they always do it hands
down over and over and over, and
then these conspiracy theories,
like they'll get blocked from
social media.
They'll get basically just
blasphemed all over the Internet
when it always comes out that
part of these conspiracy
theories are always sprinkled in
truth.
Speaker 2: Your tongue tripped a
little bit.
Speaker 1: It was funny, it was
I said conspiracy.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it does.
But when you say it's a
controlled thing, don't get it
confused with controlled, as far
as we have no control over it.
What we don't remember is that
we agreed for it to be the way
that it is so that we could
experience the experience of it.
Where we're going as a whole is
we're going to a place of
contact.
Yeah, I agree we're getting our
vibrations set to a higher level
by getting rid of some of the
baggage of fear and non-belief
and all of those heavier
frequency ideas, where we can
raise our vibration so that we
can have initial contact with
the alien species one-on-one,
where we can walk up to them
just like we do each other and
be able to interact with them in
a way that's not fearful, in a
way that is friendly and
pleasant, and explore that.
That's where we're headed with
it, piece by piece, step by step
.
Speaker 1: I agree.
I agree.
We would be totally naive to
think that we're the only people
out there.
Speaker 2: Right and the
conspiracy theory, part of it
comes from there.
You know there are people at
different levels in their
vibrational frequency and in
their awakening, and so there's
some that just are not there yet
to be able to digest even to
the very basic thought that
aliens even exist.
There still is a group of people
that just can't even they can't
even embrace that right, and
that's what then creates the um,
piece by piece, information
that's exposed because we're
trying to get them, uh, to
embrace the concept at their
pace, not necessarily at the
pace where others are in a
little bit more advanced or
higher up the frequency chart
place.
Yeah, so that we can tip the
balance, so that we can have
that initial contact and go to
that place where we live amongst
each other as just two
different species, kind of like
we do now with humans and
animals.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know it'll be
humans and animals and aliens of
all different kinds and species
, because that's what we all
agreed that we want to
experience.
Next is what would it be like
to coexist with all of the
beings?
And with that will come
expansion on technology and
being able to use our energy to
instantaneously we won't even
need mouse anymore, because
we'll communicate with our brain
there are entities out there
that don't I mean look at the
house verbally at all.
Speaker 1: They do it all
energetically look at the house
they're, they're who are?
The house, the they're well,
the ones that were the owls, the
ones that we were, the, the
guys that have the stick legs.
They're real big and they have
no mouth, but they, they can,
they make the screaming noise
and they have no.
I mean, they have no mouth, but
they make the screaming noise.
And they have a mouth, but they
have no eyes.
Speaker 2: What are you talking
about?
Speaker 1: They were on the
movie.
We watched the Howls, the Mrs
Peregrines.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: You know the Howls
that were on there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They're totally.
You can't see them, but yet
they can destroy you, okay, okay
, that was a fun movie to watch
last night.
I enjoyed it.
Actually, if y'all haven't seen
that, this is pentagrams how
home home for peculiar children.
Okay, it was a good.
It was a funny movie it was.
It was a good.
I enjoyed it.
Actually it was.
It kind of tells you it's one
of those sprinkled in things,
right.
Yeah, all these kids that have
all these hidden talents.
Speaker 2: All the movies that
we get exposed to, all of the
rumor mill.
There is truth to every aspect
of that, aspect of that it's.
It's obviously covered up a
little bit with, you know, some
peanut butter and jelly so that
it's easier to digest.
Um, because there's people out
there that can't just totally
open up and embrace that, and so
we're trying to I say we
because I'm part of that
galactic.
We all are on a subconscious
level.
You just may not know that you
are.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Which is a whole
other topic.
Speaker 1: So let's kind of
switch gears.
A minute let's talk about.
Speaker 2: Switching gears.
Speaker 1: The conspiracy theory
of subliminal messaging.
Okay theory of subliminal
messaging.
Okay, we just watched that
video yesterday morning to where
there was a gentleman he was a
magician actually and he
actually subliminally messaged
two marketers that set up
marketing for a very large
advertising firm by doing this
fictitious company, and he
wanted them to develop a, a logo
, a name, um, a slogan and a
some kind of graphic design in
30 minutes and the the key to
all of it was is he actually
picked them up at their hotel,
drove them a 20 minute drive to
their place and throughout this
course of this 20 minutes, he
hidden they had hidden these
things where he know they would
be looking at and to to
subliminally give them the
message that they want to do
that he wanted them to do.
And then the guy that did it
put on, drew a picture of it and
you also look it up.
It's on YouTube.
It's actually pretty interesting
video to watch and at the end
of this thing, these guys
actually drew almost an
identical picture that this guy
had drawn because he had
subliminally messaged throughout
their whole course of their
hour interaction to draw this.
And so here's one of the
conspiracy theories behind it is
all this stuff that that
happens, like all the news and
all that are all in some way
linked together to either a
think a certain way they want us
to think or B to distract us
from something they're trying to
distract us from.
There was a big discussion
going on in one of the forums
right now that popped in my
thing yesterday and popped in my
feed yesterday, and that's what
there is a probably a thousand
people having having
disagreements or arguments back
and forth about this whole
scenario of if subliminal
messaging is really there.
Speaker 2: OK.
Speaker 1: And I'm here to say
it 100 percent is Absolutely
Because, as you have been a
hypnotist, we do it to each
other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do, I agree,
been a hypnotist we do it to
each other?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do, I agree.
Speaker 2: On a subconscious
level, we do it to each other
all the time.
Speaker 1: Being a hypnotist,
you know all about the levels of
consciousness.
Speaker 2: Right.
Absolutely Subliminal messaging
happens all the time, even the
people that don't believe in it.
They're arguing for the
platform that it doesn't exist.
Don't believe in it.
They're arguing for the
platform that it doesn't exist
they themselves.
If they would stop and look at
their day, they would see that
they're doing it, even on a
subconscious level, to the
people that come to exist in
their path and their journey.
We do it all the time, all day,
every day.
We're always giving subliminal
messages.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 2: That's the human
level conversation that we can
have.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: If we take it to the
rabbit hole conversation, what's
really happening is that
they're not what we have
originally defined as subliminal
messages, which is hiding the
information in some cloaked
verbology or visualization.
It is reminding an individual
of something they already know
through a vibrational frequency.
So what we are doing on a
bigger scheme, on a bigger level
, is we're learning how to play
with the vibrational frequency
so that we can communicate on a
frequency level without without
using the words.
Speaker 1: Yeah, without using
the words well, you know,
because that's what I came to my
mind when I watched that video
the other day is how does this
guy know that his subliminal
messaging really worked?
Or was it the fact of the
energy he brought to the room
with the message he was putting
out and the vision in his own
head of the drawing that he did
and, within that unknown
communication, passed the
message on to these guys?
Speaker 2: Well, by definition,
that is a form of subliminal
messaging.
I agree if you really look at
the definition completely open,
if you are giving them.
Here's the thing on a human
level, we know that we can speak
with our mouths and talk and
that's a form of communication.
We can visually communicate by
doing pictures or the
hieroglyphs, facial expressions
body language.
What we've not embraced is
communicating via energy, and
that's what we're being taught
and being shown a little bit at
a time.
So subliminal messaging, in
essence, is just us encoding the
energy with the message that we
want to send to that individual
or groups and them reading the
energy of it, without it having
to be communicated visually or
verbally, and so that's just us
practicing that technique, and
we don't really even know that
we're practicing that technique.
Speaker 1: Right, okay, yeah, I
totally, totally agree with that
.
Speaker 2: Once someone becomes
aware that that's actually a
viable form of communication and
can be done with it, then you
can begin to work with it and
play with it and do little games
, like you know putting drawing
an image on a piece of paper but
don't show your playmate or
your partner and having them
close their eyes, tap into the
energy of what's on that piece
of paper and seeing if they can
come up with what is on the
piece of paper energetically, if
you wanted to practice more in
depth playing with the energy,
because energy holds codes and
information.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I got
asked the other day what
happened to the day when
everything on the news was
proven true before advertised.
I know and this kind of all
falls in together how it all
marries is because back in the
beginning of the Obama
administration, when he first
started, he actually signed a
bill that was got this hidden, a
hidden agenda in the backside
of it on one of the sub sections
, and it was about removing the
truth in media and where they
don't have to prove their
sources anymore, they don't have
to make everything true, and it
also give the government full
control on anything that was
labeled as news bulletin.
You notice those news bulletins
went away and only time that
can come out as a bulletin or
something like that is if it's
controlled and approved by the
government.
Speaker 2: I don't, because I
don't watch it.
Speaker 1: We don't watch the
news, but there are majority
people do.
Speaker 2: No, I don't because I
don't watch it.
Yeah, we don't watch the news,
but the majority of people do.
Well, how do you know all of
this news information?
Where do you get it from?
Speaker 1: I've signed this up
because of our the Merc Center
stuff.
It's in through our social
media.
I'm on all these forums and I
get alerts for them.
It's not that I'm watching the
news, but this is one of the
topics.
You can watch the news if you
want.
I know I'm a big boy.
I can watch.
I don't care to because the
only thing it's about it's about
murder and drama.
I don't, I don't care to see it
um.
It serves its purpose and right,
they use it to serve a purpose
in the same kind of way.
Right, because news is a way of
subliminal messaging and, of
course and that is where this
comes in the conspiracy theory
that this subliminal messaging,
the government is controlling
why they've released the CIA
documents, why they've done all
these things in a quiet,
secretive type manner and can
manipulate how we do things.
Speaker 2: Well, again, you're
presenting it in such a way that
it feels like we have no
control over it.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just doing
what the forum people are
talking about.
I understand, but it could be
interpreted that way.
Speaker 2: But the reality is
that it was all a pre-negotiated
plan and there are people out
there who want to have an
experience of.
The news is all lies and
they're just trying to trick our
brains into making us behave a
certain way.
There's a group of people out
there that wanted to know what
that felt like I agree and to
work themselves out of that into
a different thought process
look, you're ruining the
conspiracy theory talk okay, I'm
sorry.
I don't mean to ruin it, but I
thought that's what you wanted,
I'm playing with you I thought
you wanted that no, the goal,
though I I mean I'm sharing
information I'm just playing
channeled because the goal is to
get to that fourth and fifth
dimensional place of
experiencing things in a whole
different way and in order to
get there, we've got to change
our frequency of not feeling
like we're controlled, not
feeling like somebody else is
manipulating us to do something
we don't want to do, and so
we've been given the go ahead to
start communicating that it's
time for us to wake up and
remember what we already knew.
It's time for us to remember
that these were all negotiations
that we put in place so that we
could have experiences, so that
we could experience it in a
certain way.
Speaker 1: It's all a big game
of risk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a mystery,
because we find puzzles and
mysteries exciting and
interesting, even if humanly,
they seem difficult or
challenging and not pleasant at
the time.
Getting that place where we are
back to looking at it as an
exciting and inquisitive thing
Wow, look at the mystery I got
to you because when you go
through something like that and
you live in the hidden mystery
of it and you figure out what
the mystery was, it's quite
fulfilling yeah even if you
watch a show on tv.
What was that lady's name?
Um, I'm gonna show my age, um
murder.
Speaker 1: She wrote yeah, I'm
going to show my age Murder.
She Wrote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or I mean any
of those.
It's very fulfilling to watch
Sherlock.
Holmes yeah, that's a very,
very good one, my favorite
Scooby-Doo.
It's very interesting.
Shaggy was a detective, and
that's what keeps you hanging on
is watching the mystery unfold
and finding the conclusion of
that mystery.
Our lives are no different.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When you have a
mystery at hand going through
the process of investigating it
and finding the clues.
Speaker 1: Do you think
Scooby-Doo really talks?
Do you think that dog really?
Speaker 2: talks, of course.
Speaker 1: I think so too.
Speaker 2: All animals talk.
It's just that most people are
not in a place where they will
allow themselves to hear.
I agree.
Look at Dr Doolittle.
Speaker 1: It's a crazy movie.
Speaker 2: We all have the
ability to do that.
Speaker 1: I'm just playing
around, but they expose us to
Scooby-Doo many, many ways as a
child.
Of course, and on the show they
have a dog, scooby-doo and
Scrappy.
They both talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you
have a van full of hippies.
Scrappy's better at it than
Scooby-Doo.
Speaker 1: You have a van full
of hippies that wear the same
clothes every day and they drive
around in a van.
Speaker 2: But let's talk about
this.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: They had the dog
Scooby-Doo and he was able to
communicate at his level by the
whole rut-ro and it was a little
bit hard to understand him.
Then they create the next
generation of character,
scooby-doo, next generation of
character, where he can speak
very clearly English to the
humans and communicate with the
previous generation.
Speaker 1: So you see the
correspondence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know the
correlation between all of it,
the correlation between all of
it Each generation of humans are
being born with a higher level
of functioning and closer and
closer to where we're wanting to
go.
Each species of human is
getting to that place where they
don't necessarily need to, and
we've talked about that.
They don't need social
engagement to be fulfilled and
happy.
They can sit around on social
media and live in their virtual
world and they're coming in on a
different level of awakened and
a different frequency and a
different vibrational existence
you know, there's all the
conspiracy, everything out there
that all marries together with
the same process.
Speaker 1: It is exposure,
either downplaying or just
completely wiping it away.
And then the next part of it is
is the human saying wait a
minute, I want to know more
about this?
And so those three steps always
happen in every conspiracy
theory.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think the first
part of it, what you just said
was is you're right, we signed
up for all this, this human
existence of this collective
consciousness, all signed up for
this, for the experiences, and
to realize that your human is
curious about it because you're
here for the experience.
You're not here for that
particular conspiracy, you're
here for the experience.
You're not here for that
particular conspiracy, you're
here for that experience and the
experience of the conspiracy.
Speaker 2: Right, and the reason
that you're curious about it is
because what it did is it
tapped on an area of your being
that already knows about it?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And wonders, because
there's some sort of remembering
that frequency.
Speaker 1: Yes, and so the I
think the last thing I would
like to talk about on the
conspiracy theory talk was are
our government leaders lizards?
Are they lizard people?
Speaker 2: Some of them are yes.
Speaker 1: Because have you seen
?
I've seen lots of little videos
and stuff of things where weird
things happen.
Again they could be manipulated
.
But they could not be
manipulated.
They could be put out there
just in a way to make us think
they're manipulated.
Put out there just in a way to
make us think they're
manipulated.
Speaker 2: Well, the thinking
that they're manipulated by the
humans that are not quite there
yet, it's easier to have a
perspective of To sprinkle it in
there for them.
I don't have to embrace this
concept right now or at all, if
I don't want to, if I'm not
there yet, by saying, oh, they
manipulated the video, that's a
permission slip to not
experience it right now, because
there still is that level of
beings, humans, out there that
will not, in this lifetime, ever
embrace the concept, because
that's how they chose to
experience it and and so that's
how the manipulating videos and
being able to came about is it
essentially gives them a
permission slip not to accept
the information as it really is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's still,
but it's still planted in their
subconscious.
Speaker 2: Those that are at the
next level and the next level.
And the next level then, yes,
the aliens and the different
types of species.
They are living among us.
They just are doing it in such
a way that is visually
acceptable, so that we can get
to a place where we're not
afraid of them.
Speaker 1: It's like on that
show, ghost Whisperer with her
dead husband.
That's in a different body.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When she looks at him
he looks like her husband, but
when everybody else sees her, it
looks like the guy that was
dead Right, and so that's kind
of the same thing is we have
been trained that they look a
certain way Right, and so when
they do look another way, we
still see them that way.
Speaker 2: Of course, that's how
your beliefs, patterns and
programs come into play is?
It provides a pair of glasses,
if you will, a pair of glasses,
if you will, on how you're going
to see the world around you and
what you choose to see whenever
you look through that pair that
you have on.
Speaker 1: And so when you look
at me, just remember to adjust
your glasses that.
I've got the body of a
22-year-old.
I'm jacked.
I've got a 44-inch chest.
I've got 20-inch biceps Okay so
go ahead and adjust-inch biceps
, okay.
So go ahead and adjust that
belief for me.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, let me
adjust that.
Speaker 1: Because you're
programmed to see me as a chubby
50.
Speaker 2: Only because you
programmed me that way I'm
playing.
And so those that are ready to
see that the lizard people are
living among us because their
frequency has elevated to a
point where they are allowing
themselves to be open minded
enough to be able to see the
true reality of it.
Then they will catch the
eyelids changing in some video
conference and they'll toy with
the idea of oh my gosh, I saw
that.
I wonder if it's real.
Speaker 1: Or is it?
Is it memory?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Oh God, I cannot get anything
completed here guys.
Speaker 1: He is just goofing
around.
I don't even know.
What do you mean?
What am I doing?
I didn't interrupt you, I'm
just adding to your comment.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: No, the reality is
you said it right is 100%.
Speaker 2: Did I ever get to a
point where I got to say
anything?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
Let's ask the editor how long
of this podcast did you talk?
Did you not complete your topic
?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm just
jacking with you.
Speaker 1: Oh, so you're making
me feel bad here.
Speaker 2: I'm not making you do
anything.
You're choosing to feel bad.
It's your fault If you're
offended, then you need to look
at yourself.
Speaker 1: No, if I'm chubby,
you need to look at yourself.
No, if I'm chubby, you need to
look at your beliefs.
Okay, I'm playing and so
conspiracy theories, guys, we
gotta remember we've correct, we
create our reality, we, we have
built this into our.
Uh, I let me, let me back up.
The reason why I want to talk
about this topic is because I
watched thousands of people in
this forum fight, argue, you
know, cuss, all this stupid
stuff, and back and forth on two
different opinions, and neither
side is open and receptive to
really have a true discussion
about it and a discussion that
creates balance.
Instead, they're right there.
It's kind of like the, the
republicans and democrats, the,
the you know players and the
coaches, the referees and the
you know whatever.
It's just all, there's all the
contrast within it, and they're
not open to think about it.
Then reality is that they've
created all of it yeah, well,
there's gonna be.
Speaker 2: like I said, there's
that group of people that are
just not going to evolve to that
next dimension of existence, to
where they're open and ready to
receive the information.
So they will stay in that lower
dimension.
Yeah, and they will continue to
argue about it.
Speaker 1: Stay in the drama.
Stay in the drama.
Is it accepting as a reality?
Speaker 2: well, and the thing
is is that if there's a group
that wants to have it only their
way, the only way they can have
it only their way is if there
is a group that is an opposition
, because the opposition is what
brings about the existence of
having it only my way, because
if they don't know that there's
another way, then they can't
have it only their way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, so it
has to be that way.
Understood.
Speaker 2: How many times can I
say way in a sentence?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
You said that a whole bunch
right there.
Can I make an?
Speaker 2: entire paragraph of
way and make it make sense.
I did a pretty good job right
there.
Speaker 1: You did do a bunch of
it.
You said way like 19 times in
two sentences.
Speaker 2: Curdles and ways.
Speaker 1: Anyway, do you feel
complete?
Speaker 2: I'm good, yeah, okay,
I mean, I'll talk about it
forever, or we can end it now.
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