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Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I love that inter
music.
Speaker 2: It does have quite a
disco vibe.
Speaker 1: It really does.
I like it.
It makes me energized,
synchronized, so I have a pretty
good topic and it is one of the
things that I have actually
been dealing with myself.
Speaker 2: Can I just say this
one thing yeah, Let her rip
Tater Chip.
Speaker 1: Let her rip.
That's kind of funny.
You know, when we upload to the
podcast site, that's what it
says Let her rip.
Tater chip Let her rip.
That's kind of funny.
You know, when we upload to the
podcast site, that's what it
says let her rip when you drag
and drop it in.
I had to get it out of my head.
It says let her rip.
Speaker 2: Tater chip.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
So this is a topic I have been
working on myself and I've also
been discussing it with a couple
of the people on a daily basis
pretty much.
Speaker 2: Your imaginary
friends.
Speaker 1: No, they're real.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: Well, they're my
delusional realness.
Speaker 2: Illusional.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, it's
delusional, but 100% no, I'm
playing.
I've been talking with a couple
people about this, actually,
and myself I've been dealing
with it, and it's about being
real with yourself.
Do you tell yourself the truth
about yourself and become the
person that you want to do?
Because you can't become who
you want to be unless you're
real with who you are, because
it becomes a block for me and
the two people I've been talking
about, this exact thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean of
course.
Speaker 1: Do you tell you?
I mean, one of the examples
that I have is is we have a
tendency to have a grandiose
vision of ourself based off our
own perception, and with that
comes this story that ain't
always true about who you really
are or who you've been, and
until you can learn to address
those things that you view
yourself as, you don't give
yourself room to grow into who
you can be, based off your own
beliefs and patterns and
programs 100%.
Speaker 2: Grandiose, though
that's a big word.
I would be curious to know what
your definition of that word is
.
Speaker 1: My definition of
grandiose is pretty like bigger
than we are or better than we
are, like loss, complete loss of
humility.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean.
So this is a point in the path
where we will bifurcate and
agree to disagree.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't think I can
do that.
Speaker 1: You've been doing
that to me.
I like every podcast.
Speaker 2: I think that's a
grandiose idea.
It's not every podcast.
Speaker 1: The last three.
It's okay, though.
That's why we're here.
We're allowed to have different
opinions and different things.
That's okay I.
Speaker 2: I think there is a
place and a time for grandiosity
okay is that a?
Speaker 1: word grandiosity.
I don't know, is that your gen?
That may be.
Speaker 2: You haven't done one
in a minute.
That may be my genie-ism of the
day.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we have to
know now.
Grandiosity.
Speaker 2: You want the
definition of it?
No, I just want to know if it's
a real word.
Oh, somebody look that up.
Speaker 1: Yeah please, please,
do put it in the comments.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes
it's okay to envision and give
yourself a definition of being
bigger than you are, so that you
can open up your container and
allow yourself to become
something bigger and better than
what you are.
And so grandiose sometimes
carries a negative connotation
with it, and so I would just say
be careful with that.
Speaker 1: Right, that's the
basis of this whole conversation
.
Speaker 2: Because it's not
necessarily a bad thing.
Speaker 1: Right, I know it's
not.
What I'm talking about is the
step before that.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: When you're trying to
make yourself better than what
you are, and you do that by
having a vision, a grandiose
idea, a grandiose place or
person that you want to be, and
what I mean by grandiose is it's
bigger than what you are, I see
.
And so when?
When?
The step before that, though,
that that I see people struggle
with and that you know what that
stuttering thing must be
contagious stuttering stanley
stuttering holy cow and that
when you're working on yourself
like that, you know like we, we
do that all the time we're.
I am constantly looking at
myself and when I have people
approach me and they say man
you're like one.
one in particular comment that
was given was is man?
My counselor says that I'm not
being real with myself and I'm
like well, are you?
Are you being true with
yourself?
And he said the counselor told
him that he can't get where he's
going until he identifies where
he's been.
I don't necessarily agree with
that whole statement, but there
is a little bit of truth behind
it.
When you can't be honest with
yourself whole statement, but
there is a little bit of truth
behind it.
When you can't be honest with
yourself, who can you be honest
with?
And identifying the things that
you don't like in yourself?
You have to be true to yourself
and not tell yourself a story.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think,
further defining what is being
true to yourself.
If I were going to further
define that, I would say that
being aware of the patterns or
habits or beliefs that you have
in place that no longer resonate
with you is my definition of
being true to that, so that you
can put those in the universal
library and rewrite your history
to be what you want it to be.
Speaker 1: And move on from it.
I agree, but you still.
If you don't stop and look at
it wholeheartedly, you can't get
clear with it and you can't put
it in the library until you are
real with it.
Speaker 2: Right.
But at the same time, people
are where they are and it's it's
layered, it's onion work, right
, it's layers.
And so if you're not there yet,
a therapist or a life coach or
whatever their title is is not
going to get you there by the
energy around.
That feels like it's very
coerced and, and I don't know
why I'm picking up on that.
But whenever somebody says
you're not being true with
yourself and so you're not going
to progress or get any better
if you're not going to be true
with yourself, that just feels
like they're trying to bully
them into doing something they
think is going to be therapeutic
, instead of honoring where that
person's at and letting them
eat the elephant, one bite at a
time and progressing to that
point.
Because, from my perspective
and my thought process, there is
always improvement, there is
always growth and no matter how
baby steps you take, you're not
the same person that you were
before you took that tiny little
step, right, I agree with it.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with
you're not the same person that
you were before you took that
tiny little step.
Right, I agree with it.
I totally agree with what
you're saying, and that's
exactly what I said to myself
first of all is it's okay to be
who you are and it's okay to
identify those factors of which
you don't like, but don't let
the story get in the way, yeah,
and don't stay there too long,
because it has a vibrational
frequency and you don't like,
but don't let the story get in
the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and don't stay
there too long because it has a
vibrational frequency and you
don't want to hang out.
It's a lower vibration With
that lower vibration for very
long.
Acknowledge it, process it,
move on.
Speaker 1: Agreed, agreed, and
then clear the beliefs behind it
.
So you have the room in your
container to expand.
Speaker 2: Or redefine.
Redefine the stuff that's going
on, redefine whatever's going
on.
Speaker 1: The example that I
have.
You know that what I want to
say is what I said to him was
well, you've already done the
first step.
You're actually sitting here
talking about it, so you're
identifying it and it's okay
just to let it go.
Don't sit there and dwell upon
it, accept it, clear it, move on
and become who you want to be,
open your doors, expand your
container and believe and create
the story that you want to have
, because we create our own
reality, and so, if you don't
like the reality, you had quit
creating it and identify the
story, identify the beliefs and
put yourself in a position to
where you can be successful at
no matter what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I mean,
one of the fun games I play in
in doing that for myself is I
will take myself forward into
the life, basically, of the
person that I want to be next,
see visually and I usually do it
in a meditation how are they
living, what are they doing,
what are their day-to-day
actions?
And then I start mimicking that
in my current day-to-day
reality and become that person,
thereby leaving behind the
history of the person that I
used to be.
Speaker 1: Understood.
Yeah, that's good, and on the
other side of that is us as
human beings living in this
interactive environment that we
live in.
We have to deal with people
that are identifying those
things and have a grandiose idea
that doesn't always resonate
with us.
They have a grandiose idea of
themselves and that doesn't
always identify with people and
sometimes it's very off-putting.
Can be for sure, and on the
other side of that wheel is we
have to deal with those kind of,
those kind of interactions with
everybody in life, and I mean
everybody out there has to deal
with it.
Not, I don't mean we, I mean
like the entire world has to
deal with people that have aka
labeled as egotistical or
self-centered or overconfident,
or you know, they get labeled
like that, and so the the whole
impression upon that, what they
think they're putting out there
is literally shooting themselves
in the foot, so to speak,
because it's not what they
really are perceived at, because
perception is reality.
And so us having to deal with
those kinds of situations,
hopefully, if we're doing it in
a truly spiritual way, we are
stopping to identify what the
world is reflecting back to us.
Speaker 2: I mean that would be.
You know, that's the ultimate
goal is that we create our own
reality and every individual
that you interact with is
reflecting back to you
opportunities to see yourself in
a different light and to see
yourself from a different
perspective and then choose from
there.
To see yourself from a
different perspective and then
choose from there.
Is that something I want to
modify or change for my growth
and evolution, or am I not quite
ready to do that?
I mean, that's the ultimate
goal of the game.
Speaker 1: Right, and sometimes,
when we get these energetic
exchanges of these grandiose
things that people are
reflecting back to us, it
becomes difficult to see what's
in it that we're supposed to see
.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, we've
both agreed.
See Okay, well, we've both
agreed.
Great podcast.
Our work here is done.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 2: Where do you want to
take this?
Speaker 1: Where do I want to
take it?
I'm taking it to the direction
right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, are you ready?
Here we go.
Speaker 1: I don't have a, I
don't have a room, room sound.
Speaker 2: No, you don't.
You need to update your sounds.
Speaker 1: I do.
I need to update them.
And amidst this conversation
with myself, I'm kind of talking
to one of these individuals and
I'm kind of telling him what I
was telling myself, and that is
it's okay to be who you are,
it's okay to own who you were
and it's okay to become who you
want to be.
Giving yourself those
permissions to do that will
catapult you forward and make
you become who you want to
become.
When you allow it to happen,
like if you are not happy with
who you were and you are trying
to change, the first step of
what you need to do is give
yourself permission to change.
So when we create this vision
of ourselves, where we want to
go with life, we have to give
ourselves the permission slips
to be the person we want to be
and, step by step, through that
process.
What I've been doing is
identifying what I didn't like,
finding the historical event in
my life that created it and the
best that I can, and then
removing it, one little baby
bite at a time.
You know, like you always say,
eat the elephant one bite at a
time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And that's what I try
to do with it.
So it will open the doors for
me to see a different me and try
to live step by step into who I
want to be.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And so that's where
I'm going with that, okay and so
that's where I'm going with
that and the steps that we go to
that with is where I was
looking for my Dr Jenny advice.
Speaker 2: Dr Jenny, are you
there, hello?
Speaker 1: Dr Jenny.
Speaker 2: Hello.
Speaker 1: Dr Ginny Paging.
Dr Ginny.
Dr Ginny, are you there?
Please report to the studio.
Speaker 2: Let me pop in like Dr
Bombay on, bewitched in a puff
of smoke.
Speaker 1: And so that's where I
want to go, because I know you
are my mentor Okay, you are the
person I look up to and I'm in a
spot to where I'm struggling
with allowing myself to create
the story in a way that is
beneficial for everybody.
Because that's where I battle
with is we're in an environment
to where you and I, we have a
human agreement with one another
, and if I create this story of
myself, what's it going to do to
you?
Speaker 2: Okay, let's break it
down.
So if you are preventing
yourself from, Let me get a
drink of my coffee so I can wet
my whistle.
Speaker 1: That's root beer.
Speaker 2: Indeed, it is Not
mixed with coffee.
No, that's root beer.
Indeed, it is Not mixed with
coffee.
Speaker 1: No, that's root beer.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me
understand exactly what it is
that we're talking about.
We're talking about allowing
oneself to create a new story
and become that story.
Create a new story and become
that story, and why one would
not be allowing themselves to
create a new story.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, it's been my
experience that one of two
things could possibly be
happening, maybe one of three.
A holding on to that old story
is what is defined as giving you
your identity, and if you let
go of the story, then it could
possibly be creating a situation
where, oh my God, if I let go
of this story, then who am I?
And that in and of itself a loss
of identity temporarily could
be more uncomfortable than
hanging on to the story.
So it could be that that's a
thing in a bill Feeling like
that you deserve to, or because
you have an additional story
going on that you somehow have
to do what's right by everybody
else.
So let's dive into that one a
little bit, because that seems
to be the general consensus out.
There is that if I create the
story to where my life looks
exactly like I want it to look,
then I am all of a sudden
becoming a selfish individual
that doesn't have kind, loving
heart and compassion for the
other people around me.
The story somehow it gets
written that if I do things that
make me happy, I am going to
trample on or affect somebody
else's reality.
So let's break it down.
The reality of it is is that if
you are always OK so let's begin
here You're a spiritual being
having a human experience, which
means 90 of your being is
spiritual.
The spiritual aspect of you
always maintains the highest
vibrational state, which we as
humans like to call it a love
state of being, because there's
really not another word for that
vibrational frequency that
feels amazing and blissful, and
there are some people who can
relate to that They've reached
that place, you know,
temporarily in meditation, or
they've experienced it somewhere
along the way, they may not be
identifying it.
If you are in that state of
being, not only from your
spiritual standpoint, which
never changes, because that's
your natural vibrational
frequency your higher self, your
spiritual self is never going
to leave that place of being.
By design.
It is not going to leave that.
It's not going to join you when
you're having a crappy day.
It's going to maintain its
place, its vibrational frequency
, and you're going to have to
dump the baggage that you're
carrying around and come to the
level of frequency with the
higher self, thereby creating a
feeling of feel better.
That's how that mechanism works.
When you're having a grumpy day
, higher self doesn't drop to
your vibrational frequency and
meet you there and say, oh okay,
here, let's muck around in the
mud puddle.
It just doesn't happen that way
.
It's your responsibility as a
human to dump beliefs, patterns
and programs that will allow you
to float back to your natural
state of being humanly, which is
the goal, or the objective is
to get to a place where you,
humanly and your spirit come
together and begin to flow, ebb,
flow, ebb as almost like one
unit, and enjoy that love or
blissful, happy frequency, to
where then, you know,
serendipity, synchronicity
happens.
Things are always in flow.
Life feels like you know just
spot on.
Just grooving and grooving, and
there is none of that yucky
stuff.
If you're having any kind of
negative or not so pleasant
feeling experiences, it's
because you have dropped your
frequency lower than what your
higher self is.
Okay, lower than what your
higher self is.
So if you are having an
experience that has brought you
lower than that frequency, then
it is because you have written a
story, you have taken on
somebody else's baggage of
belief, you've done something,
that you're toting around some
junk that is not serving you
anymore and you have to get to a
place where it's okay to let go
of that junk.
Because here's the part after
the comma If you get to a place
where you are vibrating at that
frequency by doing what makes
you happy and joyful in any
given moment to the best of your
ability and following that joy,
you're going to put off an
energy frequency that helps the
collective, that helps the
masses, because our energy
intertwines, even on a
subconscious level.
When you come into contact with
another individual, with your
aura, for example, your energies
mingle, and if your energy is
at a high frequency, what it
does is it takes the person
that's not as necessarily at a
high frequency and it uplifts
their vibrational frequency.
And so, more often than not,
what happens is if you get to a
place where you're constantly
mentally in a feel-good place
and positive, you're affecting
your energy and your frequency
stays high.
That's more beneficial than
worrying about your actions
humanly, not affecting somebody
or affecting somebody in a
negative way, because then what
happens?
If you're so worried about
how's this going to affect this
person, it will change your
actions and then it will become
it'll feel like you have to.
It'll become almost feel like
chore-like.
Like you have to.
It'll become almost feel like
chore-like or like you've got to
perform.
Keep the audience happier to
keep the others happy, instead
of looking for that joyful
frequency within you, and let it
happen on an energetic level
rather than on a human action
level.
Speaker 1: Which, in turn, makes
it energetic projection from
yourself that other people will
say oh, I'm happy that you're
happy.
Speaker 2: I'm just happy being
in your energy because you're a
feel good place for me.
Speaker 1: Right Yep, yep, yep,
yep.
Speaker 2: Instead of your
actions, creating situations
that are feel better but not
feel amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that are feel
better but not feel amazing.
Yeah, so the part that came up
for me in this you know, because
I have been developing this
book in my head and I'm going to
write this book and part of
that is that came up on this
topic was we are taught to
respect others, to respect, um,
our elders.
You know, you've heard that,
you've heard all the sayings.
You know you need to respect
your mama.
You know you need to, you need
to show all your elders respect
and love, but nobody ever tells
you how to.
What do you mean by that?
And you know, when you're not
given, when you're given
directive without explanation,
the directive is pretty much
useless because you're just out
there floundering to figure it
out yourself.
And it's the same thing on this
topic, when you're developing
yourself into who you want to be
and you become true with
yourself.
It didn't allow that to become
not a loss of identity, because
that rang a bell for me, you
know, because that's truly what
happened.
You can give yourself a feeling
of losing who you are and
losing that identity, of how
you've identified yourself, and
that really rung a bell.
But the other part of that is
we get taught things and people
have their perception or
expectations of us, and when we
go through here floundering
without direction on how to
really write this story in a
better way, then it becomes a
new point.
Speaker 2: Well, it certainly
can, especially if you're
depending on somebody else to
create the criteria and the
definition around a word.
Like we were taught as children
, I'm going to teach you this
word and the word gets this
definition, which is then
followed by this chain of steps
that you must follow.
And when we're taught that
algorithm or that process, then
we get dependent upon somebody
creating the story for us, which
then becomes not beneficial
right.
And so people forget and don't
remember how to use their
imagination and don't understand
that they can create the story
however they want it to be.
There's no longer a parental
rule book that you have to live
by.
And so that story can look
however you want it to look.
You can create the definitions
and the processes in that,
however you want them to be.
So the first thing I would do
would be the first question I
would ask myself is why do I
need an identity?
Why do I need that?
What purpose is it serving for
me?
It's okay to be a blank canvas
and have no, necessarily no
identity, right?
If you go through life as a
blank canvas and you're not
holding on to some identity that
makes you you, because you're
going to get lost in who you are
.
Well, who are you?
Answer that question who are
you?
Speaker 1: Me right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right now.
Stop and just answer that
question.
If I said to you who are you,
Well, that's a good question.
First thing that comes to your
head.
Speaker 1: Papaw.
I am Papaw.
That's a label that you've
given me and that we've had for
a long time, which is a very
loving, caring person.
Speaker 2: Because you defined
it that way, right?
Okay, so that's part of your
identity structure.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Who else are you?
I am James, your hubby, your
husband, okay, your significant
other.
Speaker 2: Again, that's just a
word that you've given some sort
of meaning and definition to
that creates this need for an
identity structure.
Okay, so who else are you?
Speaker 1: I am a manager.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's in the
pie portion of your job.
Speaker 1: Right and I, if you
were to, you know, I think, who
I am.
Okay is I'm a loving, caring
person.
I'm very outgoing, and so I
would identify myself as a very
social individual that has fun.
I like to be pretty
lighthearted.
I have my moments, but I think
lightheartedness is part of who
I am and I don't take things as
serious as other people do.
That's a tough question to
answer for yourself.
Speaker 2: It is, and so, if you
stop and ask that does it
really even need an answer?
This is where I'm taking you so
follow me for a second identity
.
Does it really even need to be
who are you?
Does that even really need to
be?
Does it matter who you are?
Because the reality is is.
Does that?
Does that question even have an
answer?
Because you didn't tell me who
you are.
You told me the components that
make up who you think that you
are by way of the definition
that you've given your story and
yourself.
Speaker 1: And the actions I
think I'm putting out.
Speaker 2: I think I'm putting
out, and if you have to hang on
to that to be something or to be
successful or to feel like
you're something then that's
what's going to trip you up.
So, getting to a place where you
don't need, and nine times out
of 10, you create this identity
characteristic made up of all
these different titles I'm a
mother, I'm a wife, I'm a
manager, I'm a doctor.
Those are just titles, they're
just words that you use to
structure.
But why?
Why do you do that?
And here's why.
So, if you feel like you have
to have an identity, you're
usually doing that because
you're needing to satisfy the
expectation of people that come
into your path.
We've been taught that we have
to explain who or what we are,
and that's how we socialize,
that's how we interact with
other individuals, because
awkward silence is awkward.
Nobody's comfortable just
sitting there reading the energy
Like it's just not a thing.
And so, therefore, you have to
have a verbal story that gives
you the opportunity to get to
know one another, or what you
think is getting to know one
another.
And so if you don't have an
identity that is created by all
of these titles that you've put
together as your story, then
somebody comes up and says hi,
I'm Betty.
And you say I'm James, and you
get to socializing and mingling.
By doing what?
By saying, oh, I'm a manager
and I do this at this building,
and this is what that looks like
, and I'm a father and I have so
many kids Like you're telling a
story as a way to socialize
with an individual, because
we've been taught that that is
the appropriate way to mingle or
interact with individuals.
With individuals, we, as a tribe
, we no longer sit quietly in
the presence of their energy and
read each other's energy or
telepathically get a download of
who they are or what they are
or what their agenda is.
We have to do that verbally.
So if you have to do that
verbally on a daily basis
because as a society we've been
taught that that's how we mingle
or socialize, then you have to
have a story, or you've
convinced yourself that you have
to have some sort of story, and
telling a story means that you
have to pull forward the history
of what you've already lived to
incorporate some sort of story
to tell this individual because
they're getting to know you,
accompanied by air quotes I'm
doing my fingers air quotes, the
getting to know you is you
having to relive the historical
past of the story, which then,
in turn, keeps bringing the
history back in, because you
keep telling stories to
socialize.
And so, if you have no identity,
how awkward of a conversation
have we been taught that it
would be if you walk up and you
say Hi, I'm James and I
currently have no story because
I'm rewriting my history, so I
have nothing to tell you about
me because I don't know who I am
yet, because I've let go of the
need for an identity.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, we're
taught this.
That's a weird story, right, it
is a weird story, you know,
because all your social
interactions are ranked by your
identity.
Because this is where my mind
just went with all this.
How profound is that statement
you just made?
Because everything that we do
is ranked.
I'm a doctor, I'm a lawyer, I'm
an engineer, I'm a sacker at
the grocery store, I'm an Uber
driver, you know, and those are
all looked at in different ways,
sometimes condescending,
sometimes not, but we're taught
socially that we have to
identify who we are to other
people so we can maintain our
level within society.
Speaker 2: Yeah, social
economical status.
Speaker 1: Correct and we are.
When we're taught those things
and we're taking ownership of
those repetitively by repeating
our story or looking for that
common ground.
When you socially meet somebody
new, you're looking for that
common ground because we are
social individuals, but society
teaches us that we have to do
that, and then we it's oh wow,
that's crazy.
It just keeps, you know,
compounding the history of our
own selves.
It's a big loop and making us
identify who we are to others,
just so we can be ranked and
judged.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: It's a big, huge loop
, and so, therefore, we teach to
rewrite history.
Let go of the past, let go of
the history, let go of the
previous story and become
somebody new.
It is okay to do that, but if
you're still living in that loop
that we just explained, it is
not okay.
Those two programs will
conflict every single time,
because the minute that you come
up against a new person and
you've got to pull on some story
to find common ground with that
individual or have something to
conversate about, because
somewhere along the way it's
become socially awkward to just
sit and stare at each other or
whatever, you will pull from
your historical stories and
retell those, and every time you
do that, unfortunately, you're
you're reactivating them,
reinstilling it reinstating that
history, reactivating that
energy that that's.
Speaker 1: that's what a what a
crazy way of looking at it.
I mean not crazy, it's a
profound way, but it's crazy how
it really makes it.
When you put it in that
perspective, if we don't live by
societal taught ways, then us
repeating history verbally to
others is inevitable.
It's inevitable, is inevitable.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
And so you have to figure out a
way to circumvent and pop
yourself out of that loop.
So it doesn't really matter if
you identify who you were and
take ownership of it.
You just got to give yourself
permission to not identify it.
Yeah, let it go.
Speaker 2: It's okay to, so
let's go this direction with it.
Yeah, let it go, it's okay to,
so let's, let's go this
direction with it, because the
first question that's coming up
is okay.
Well, how do you do that
without looking like a weirdo?
How do you come across a new
person?
Find relatable conversation?
Speaker 1: and not you just hide
in the corner somewhere and
don't live experiencing.
That's how you do it.
Lay in a fetal position and
suck your thumb.
Don't forget to rock back and
forth.
Speaker 2: I don't want this
Make sure you rock back and
forth, because that helps.
How do you navigate that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's
a good question.
Speaker 2: That would be the
answer that would be beneficial.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think for
me, what I'm going to really
focus on and what I'm going to
tell these individuals I've been
talking to is just, if you
introduce yourself, introduce
yourself as what you are right
now.
Hi, I am James and I'm a
podcaster.
That's it.
You don't have to give me any
history, because that's what you
are right now I'm a podcaster.
That's it.
You don't have to give me any
history, because that's where
you are right now.
You said something about how we
are taught to not relive
history, but really, what I was
taught in school was to learn
from history.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: And that's a much
different energy.
Speaker 2: That's what I was
going to say One way to go about
it is you can have your stories
is one way to go about it is
you can have your stories.
If you remember correctly, I
taught you to put them in a
history book and put them on the
universal shelf, Because
anytime you're doing anything,
you want to be relatable to that
individual, Like, for example,
in your job.
You're the marketer of our
company and we all know if
you've had any experience in
marketing.
One of the good ways to relate
with somebody is to find common
ground, and that sometimes means
that if they've had an event
happen that is really big in
their life and you've had a
similar event, they know that
they're not alone.
Speaker 1: You share stories
right.
Speaker 2: And so you share
stories, re-manifest and
recreate the feelings that it
did when it happened is
basically sinking yourself back
into that moment in time,
because the mind doesn't know
whether you're doing it or
whether you're not.
But if you'll visualize in your
mind pulling that book down,
that history book, turning to
that page and reading it from
the book as a way of saying,
yeah, you know what I did, have
this experience happen to me and
what is the point of it, are
you helping them come up with a
solution on how to navigate that
?
And so I did this and this and
this and that helped me.
You might try that.
Whatever the new agenda is in
pulling that history forward,
identify that.
Speaker 1: Don't just pull it
forward randomly and then let
yourself become that again
because you can't ever just say,
oh yeah, I did that, and then
people will be like why are you
bringing the story forward?
Speaker 2: what's the?
And get to the purpose, get to
the point of it.
Speaker 1: I understand yeah.
Speaker 2: And don't go so far
deep in the story to where it
brings up those emotions,
especially if they're
uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: You know, I just had
a vision of what would the world
look like if everybody just
lived in a place of I am who I
am, it doesn't matter what you
think of me.
Wow, that would be a crazy
world.
You just walk in, you have a
whole bunch of people.
They're not identifying who
they are, so you'd have to learn
to see if you resonate with
people or not, because we are
social creatures.
That's what we do as humans we
socialize, and so you would have
to have a whole different way
of learning to socialize.
It would be kind of a cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
So everybody, pack you a carrot
sandwich and hang on for a ride
, because I'm going to take you
in a direction for a second.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: You do realize that
we're already being exposed to
those concepts.
Now, Okay.
And here's how those concepts
now.
Okay, and here's how You've got
the generation.
Those that are computer
generated.
They very rarely talk, they're
always on their phone and their
electronics.
And those are the Gen X.
Speaker 1: No, we're Gen X.
Speaker 2: Millennials, whatever
they're called.
They're a whole generation that
don't feel the need to talk I
know they were sitting at the
table texting each other.
That's right, we're already
being shown what the world would
look like if that's what we
morphed into.
We're being shown that and and
getting desensitized to the wow.
This is weird, especially gen x
people where we ran around
laughing, playing, telling our
stories, like just.
I feel like we ran around like
man cubs on tarzan and so you
have this whole new generation
that feels no need to
communicate with their mouth,
have that energetic social
interaction, and they don't.
They don't have a need to do
that.
We're being shown that a little
bite at a time, generation by
generation, and so if you go
even to the generation before
them, you could kind of already
start to see it manifest and
happen.
Crazy, kind of already start to
see it manifest and happen, or
even like the people that have
the label of autism, who don't
speak at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They just go based on
the vibrational frequencies and
then they have a behavior.
Yeah, we view them as you know,
odd or different, for sure.
Difficult yeah, and challenging
because we've come so far away
from our ancestral practices of
sitting quietly in the energy
and getting to know the energy
sequence of people and it being
okay to sit quietly.
Speaker 1: You know, I remember
when I was a kid, before the
electronic age really hit, I
mean we had black and white TV,
but my family would get together
and put on music and just dance
.
You know they would get
together and just dance.
It wasn't about watching HDMI
TV or whatever HD 4K, you know,
TV or movies or any of that
stuff, or having computers and
playing games or going on
Facebook.
None of that ever existed when
I was a kid.
And it's kind of a profound
thought because I remember just
sitting on a dirt mound in my
front yard, not watching TV, not
having a cell phone.
But yet here we are, evolved,
as they call it, which I think
is not really evolved.
Speaker 2: Oh, most definitely
it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
You think it's an evolution.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to.
I mean, if we're going to talk
about electronics evolution, of
course, because where we're
going with that is creating AI,
all the way to the point of
having cars that have a
consciousness and can read your
desires and your thoughts and
acting on their own accord to do
what you want them to do,
without you having to say
anything or touch a button or
any of that.
That's where we're evolving to.
That's where we're evolving to.
Speaker 1: That's where we're
going to you know.
Yesterday morning when I was
watching my shorts videos it, an
app popped up on the
advertisement called ai go and
it is literally a virtual friend
or girlfriend or whatever you
want.
It said it's not limited to
anything, you can take it in any
direction you want and I was
like, wow so, and it can
actually take on other people's
personalities, pictures like you
can create, like if you had
like.
In the commercial it showed the
guy setting up the girlfriend
because he chose a girlfriend in
his app and he took a picture
of his ex-girlfriend and turned
his ai ai girlfriend into his
ex-girlfriend and turned his AI
girlfriend into his
ex-girlfriend.
Wow.
Speaker 2: And so, basically,
what's happening as a collective
as a whole, as the all that is,
we're being shown that the
reality that we create is an
illusion.
We keep talking about that, we
being me and myself and I, we
keep talking about the reality
that you're creating is just an
illusion.
But in order to explore that on
a much more profound and
multiverse level, we have to get
the collective to embrace the
concept of illusionary thinking,
virtual thinking, virtual
reality, so that we can grow and
evolve past.
The point of seeing is
believing, needing an identity,
needing to see it for yourself
in order to believe it.
The mechanism of believing and
the belief systems doesn't work
that way.
You believe something, you
create it, you find the energy
of it and that's what brings it
into and aligns with you.
It's not seeing it first and
then believing it.
That does not work, never does.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
You know, I started this
podcast in a one mindset and
I've completely changed to
another mindset of who needs
identity.
You know, 10 years from now
we're probably not even going to
have names.
Speaker 2: You do realize that
the whole gender identity and
the pronoun movement that's why
that came about is getting us,
as a collective, more
comfortable with not needing an
identity, not needing a story to
be who we are, not needing to
answer who are you?
Being okay, with that question
not having an answer.
Speaker 1: Because we, you know,
for those that are in life, I
am whoever I want to be in this
very given moment, that's
correct.
Speaker 2: Whatever that is.
Speaker 1: What a different
train of thought, but I really
don't have anything to say about
it actually, because you're
right, he's speechless ladies
and gentlemen, it very much can
take you down a very deep hole
of thinking about things, and
that's what I enjoy doing, by
the way Of course I love just
thinking about it, and the
identity movement, as you call
it, I think, is a way that we
have been taught to realize that
spiritually we're asexual
beings.
It doesn't matter what our sex
is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll give
you an example of kind of a
little bit of what we're talking
about.
We have a friend.
He was convicted of a crime
that he was innocent of, so he
spent his entire life trying to
prove his innocence and that's
become part of his identity.
And so, because he hangs on to
that as part of his identity and
has the need for an identity,
he constantly and has the need
for an identity.
He constantly, subconsciously,
is conversating with the people
around him justifying his
innocence in every single given
situation, and he doesn't even
realize that he does it.
He constantly is going off on
deep, deep stories of why this
has to be this way, or why this
is this way, or why I need you
to do this, in an effort to
constantly validate his
innocence in everything.
And he does it subconsciously
and he doesn't even realize that
he's doing it, because he keeps
hanging on to that traumatic
experience that happened to him
as part of his identity.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Who needs an identity?
Speaker 2: I mean, do you, do
you really need an identity?
And that's why I say I would
never face reality because,
reality is actually Weird.
It's not weird, but here's
another harebrained idea.
The current reality that you're
in is actually old news and
it's part of history.
So why face reality?
It's already done, you've
already manifested it.
Once you get to a place where
you're actually physically
experiencing a thing, a place,
an, an event, a person, it's
because you you lined up with it
way back whenever you were this
other identity, and so now that
it's manifested into your
reality, it's actually just
history.
You've already done that.
That's why sometimes, when
things finally come into your
reality, it's like oh, it's
anticlimactic, because it's like
I don't really even need that
anymore, or I'm it didn't really
create that emotion or that
feeling or that experience that
I wanted, because it's almost
like I already had it.
I've had that happen to me.
Speaker 1: Huh, you would
totally change my thought
process on this topic.
Speaker 2: Can I get a round of
applause?
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, let
me see, let me see, wait, wait,
wait, ready, because the really
I think what I'm taking away
from it is it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: The history doesn't
matter.
You can create the future
however you want to, and that's
really the best thing to take
away.
If history doesn't matter, you
can create the future however
you want to, and that's really
the best thing.
If you don't like the story,
then let it go.
Who cares?
Speaker 2: Put it in the library
, because it doesn't matter,
because every single second
you're creating a new you anyway
, every single millisecond.
And so what happened?
So, on a bigger scheme of
things, since we're already kind
of one toe in the rabbit hole,
so, on a bigger scheme of things
, since we're already kind of
one toe in the rabbit hole, all
it is is a type of consciousness
that wanted to experience, see
what happens, to see what it
feels like to see.
And so, once you've done that,
that's your mission, that's your
objective.
Your objective was never to
come and hang on to the traumas,
the dramas, the identity.
Hang on to any of that and try
to move forward.
Hang on to any of that and try
to move forward.
Your objective was to come,
have the experience, give it
back to the all that is they get
, to log the data as an
experience of that, and so it's
not necessary for you to lug
that baggage around.
It's not yours to lug around.
You as an individual, as a
spiritual being, are light when
you're at your natural state of
being.
Speaker 1: So, if it feels
challenging or heavy or whatever
, it's not your, it's not your
stuff anymore, like it's not
yours, so let it go I had a
gentleman in my life when I was
in high school that really made
a change in my life and he used
to always say this he was a
football coach, his first year,
the first year in there, you
walk into the gym, you're
signing up to go play football
and you walk up to the table.
Actually, I walk up to the
table and I was like hey coach,
um, I'm here, I want to play
football.
I've never played before, um, I
don't know how to play.
And he stopped me and he says I
don't care what you've done, I
want to know do you want to play
football and what do you want
to be in football?
Because I can teach you any of
it.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: I just want to know
what you're going to be.
I don't care what you've been
Way before his time.
Love that man, coach and Coach
Ted Foster.
Speaker 2: That goes with
anything.
Yeah, you can learn absolutely
anything.
It's the mind blocks that you
can't.
That trip people up Interesting
.
You can be whoever, you can do
whatever.
Speaker 1: You want to be.
Speaker 2: Anything.
Speaker 1: Anything, anything,
and just let the history go.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No need to dwell on
it, just let it go.
Speaker 2: No need to be blocked
up by it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
I feel very complete.
Do you feel complete?
Speaker 2: I am always complete,
sir.
You're always complete.
You complete me.
Speaker 1: Oh, she loves me, she
loves me, anyway.
Well, hey, you know, who cares
who you are?
Just be who you want to be.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: Love it.
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