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Could envisioning a grander version of yourself unlock the key to genuine growth? Our latest episode takes you on a journey of self-discovery, inspired by the energetic rhythm of disco music, as we grapple with the challenges of authenticity and self-awareness. We scrutinize the concept of grandiose self-perception, pondering whether it hinders or helps our personal development. The importance of self-honesty is emphasized as we discuss how understanding our past is crucial for true progress. Through vivid discussions, we explore whether grandiosity, often seen negatively, might actually inspire us to become better versions of ourselves.

As you listen, you'll discover how to transform your life by identifying and redefining outdated beliefs and habits. We speak on the power of visualization and meditation in crafting our future selves, equipped to avoid the pitfalls of remaining in low vibrational states. Learn how interactions with those who project grandiose or egotistical perceptions can serve as unexpected catalysts for our evolution. Together, we peel back the layers of our identities, highlighting the layered process of personal growth and offering insights into embracing change or choosing to stay as we are.

We challenge societal norms with a fresh perspective on identity and social interaction, encouraging a life less reliant on fixed narratives. By examining the influence of labels and titles, we question their necessity and their impact on genuine connections. The episode also touches on generational shifts in communication, contemplating the effect of technology on social interactions. With personal anecdotes and reflections on past experiences, we invite you to consider the fluidity of identity and embrace the opportunity to shape your future, unburdened by historical baggage. Join us in crafting a life aligned with love, bliss, and authentic self-creation.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Speaker 1: I love that inter music. Speaker 2: It does have quite a disco vibe. Speaker 1: It really does. I like it. It makes me energized, synchronized, so I have a pretty good topic and it is one of the things that I have actually been dealing with myself. Speaker 2: Can I just say this one thing yeah, Let her rip Tater Chip. Speaker 1: Let her rip. That's kind of funny. You know, when we upload to the podcast site, that's what it says Let her rip. Tater chip Let her rip. That's kind of funny. You know, when we upload to the podcast site, that's what it says let her rip when you drag and drop it in. I had to get it out of my head. It says let her rip. Speaker 2: Tater chip. Speaker 1: Anyway. So this is a topic I have been working on myself and I've also been discussing it with a couple of the people on a daily basis pretty much. Speaker 2: Your imaginary friends. Speaker 1: No, they're real. Speaker 2: Oh. Speaker 1: Well, they're my delusional realness. Speaker 2: Illusional. Speaker 1: Oh no, no, it's delusional, but 100% no, I'm playing. I've been talking with a couple people about this, actually, and myself I've been dealing with it, and it's about being real with yourself. Do you tell yourself the truth about yourself and become the person that you want to do? Because you can't become who you want to be unless you're real with who you are, because it becomes a block for me and the two people I've been talking about, this exact thing. Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean of course. Speaker 1: Do you tell you? I mean, one of the examples that I have is is we have a tendency to have a grandiose vision of ourself based off our own perception, and with that comes this story that ain't always true about who you really are or who you've been, and until you can learn to address those things that you view yourself as, you don't give yourself room to grow into who you can be, based off your own beliefs and patterns and programs 100%. Speaker 2: Grandiose, though that's a big word. I would be curious to know what your definition of that word is . Speaker 1: My definition of grandiose is pretty like bigger than we are or better than we are, like loss, complete loss of humility. Speaker 2: Well, I mean. So this is a point in the path where we will bifurcate and agree to disagree. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: I don't think I can do that. Speaker 1: You've been doing that to me. I like every podcast. Speaker 2: I think that's a grandiose idea. It's not every podcast. Speaker 1: The last three. It's okay, though. That's why we're here. We're allowed to have different opinions and different things. That's okay I. Speaker 2: I think there is a place and a time for grandiosity okay is that a? Speaker 1: word grandiosity. I don't know, is that your gen? That may be. Speaker 2: You haven't done one in a minute. That may be my genie-ism of the day. Speaker 1: Okay, so we have to know now. Grandiosity. Speaker 2: You want the definition of it? No, I just want to know if it's a real word. Oh, somebody look that up. Speaker 1: Yeah please, please, do put it in the comments. Speaker 2: I think sometimes it's okay to envision and give yourself a definition of being bigger than you are, so that you can open up your container and allow yourself to become something bigger and better than what you are. And so grandiose sometimes carries a negative connotation with it, and so I would just say be careful with that. Speaker 1: Right, that's the basis of this whole conversation . Speaker 2: Because it's not necessarily a bad thing. Speaker 1: Right, I know it's not. What I'm talking about is the step before that. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: When you're trying to make yourself better than what you are, and you do that by having a vision, a grandiose idea, a grandiose place or person that you want to be, and what I mean by grandiose is it's bigger than what you are, I see . And so when? When? The step before that, though, that that I see people struggle with and that you know what that stuttering thing must be contagious stuttering stanley stuttering holy cow and that when you're working on yourself like that, you know like we, we do that all the time we're. I am constantly looking at myself and when I have people approach me and they say man you're like one. one in particular comment that was given was is man? My counselor says that I'm not being real with myself and I'm like well, are you? Are you being true with yourself? And he said the counselor told him that he can't get where he's going until he identifies where he's been. I don't necessarily agree with that whole statement, but there is a little bit of truth behind it. When you can't be honest with yourself whole statement, but there is a little bit of truth behind it. When you can't be honest with yourself, who can you be honest with? And identifying the things that you don't like in yourself? You have to be true to yourself and not tell yourself a story. Speaker 2: I mean, I think, further defining what is being true to yourself. If I were going to further define that, I would say that being aware of the patterns or habits or beliefs that you have in place that no longer resonate with you is my definition of being true to that, so that you can put those in the universal library and rewrite your history to be what you want it to be. Speaker 1: And move on from it. I agree, but you still. If you don't stop and look at it wholeheartedly, you can't get clear with it and you can't put it in the library until you are real with it. Speaker 2: Right. But at the same time, people are where they are and it's it's layered, it's onion work, right , it's layers. And so if you're not there yet, a therapist or a life coach or whatever their title is is not going to get you there by the energy around. That feels like it's very coerced and, and I don't know why I'm picking up on that. But whenever somebody says you're not being true with yourself and so you're not going to progress or get any better if you're not going to be true with yourself, that just feels like they're trying to bully them into doing something they think is going to be therapeutic , instead of honoring where that person's at and letting them eat the elephant, one bite at a time and progressing to that point. Because, from my perspective and my thought process, there is always improvement, there is always growth and no matter how baby steps you take, you're not the same person that you were before you took that tiny little step, right, I agree with it. Speaker 1: I totally agree with you're not the same person that you were before you took that tiny little step. Right, I agree with it. I totally agree with what you're saying, and that's exactly what I said to myself first of all is it's okay to be who you are and it's okay to identify those factors of which you don't like, but don't let the story get in the way, yeah, and don't stay there too long, because it has a vibrational frequency and you don't like, but don't let the story get in the way. Speaker 2: Yeah, and don't stay there too long because it has a vibrational frequency and you don't want to hang out. It's a lower vibration With that lower vibration for very long. Acknowledge it, process it, move on. Speaker 1: Agreed, agreed, and then clear the beliefs behind it . So you have the room in your container to expand. Speaker 2: Or redefine. Redefine the stuff that's going on, redefine whatever's going on. Speaker 1: The example that I have. You know that what I want to say is what I said to him was well, you've already done the first step. You're actually sitting here talking about it, so you're identifying it and it's okay just to let it go. Don't sit there and dwell upon it, accept it, clear it, move on and become who you want to be, open your doors, expand your container and believe and create the story that you want to have , because we create our own reality, and so, if you don't like the reality, you had quit creating it and identify the story, identify the beliefs and put yourself in a position to where you can be successful at no matter what you're doing. Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I mean, one of the fun games I play in in doing that for myself is I will take myself forward into the life, basically, of the person that I want to be next, see visually and I usually do it in a meditation how are they living, what are they doing, what are their day-to-day actions? And then I start mimicking that in my current day-to-day reality and become that person, thereby leaving behind the history of the person that I used to be. Speaker 1: Understood. Yeah, that's good, and on the other side of that is us as human beings living in this interactive environment that we live in. We have to deal with people that are identifying those things and have a grandiose idea that doesn't always resonate with us. They have a grandiose idea of themselves and that doesn't always identify with people and sometimes it's very off-putting. Can be for sure, and on the other side of that wheel is we have to deal with those kind of, those kind of interactions with everybody in life, and I mean everybody out there has to deal with it. Not, I don't mean we, I mean like the entire world has to deal with people that have aka labeled as egotistical or self-centered or overconfident, or you know, they get labeled like that, and so the the whole impression upon that, what they think they're putting out there is literally shooting themselves in the foot, so to speak, because it's not what they really are perceived at, because perception is reality. And so us having to deal with those kinds of situations, hopefully, if we're doing it in a truly spiritual way, we are stopping to identify what the world is reflecting back to us. Speaker 2: I mean that would be. You know, that's the ultimate goal is that we create our own reality and every individual that you interact with is reflecting back to you opportunities to see yourself in a different light and to see yourself from a different perspective and then choose from there. To see yourself from a different perspective and then choose from there. Is that something I want to modify or change for my growth and evolution, or am I not quite ready to do that? I mean, that's the ultimate goal of the game. Speaker 1: Right, and sometimes, when we get these energetic exchanges of these grandiose things that people are reflecting back to us, it becomes difficult to see what's in it that we're supposed to see . Speaker 2: Okay, well, we've both agreed. See Okay, well, we've both agreed. Great podcast. Our work here is done. Speaker 1: And so. Speaker 2: Where do you want to take this? Speaker 1: Where do I want to take it? I'm taking it to the direction right now. Speaker 2: Okay, are you ready? Here we go. Speaker 1: I don't have a, I don't have a room, room sound. Speaker 2: No, you don't. You need to update your sounds. Speaker 1: I do. I need to update them. And amidst this conversation with myself, I'm kind of talking to one of these individuals and I'm kind of telling him what I was telling myself, and that is it's okay to be who you are, it's okay to own who you were and it's okay to become who you want to be. Giving yourself those permissions to do that will catapult you forward and make you become who you want to become. When you allow it to happen, like if you are not happy with who you were and you are trying to change, the first step of what you need to do is give yourself permission to change. So when we create this vision of ourselves, where we want to go with life, we have to give ourselves the permission slips to be the person we want to be and, step by step, through that process. What I've been doing is identifying what I didn't like, finding the historical event in my life that created it and the best that I can, and then removing it, one little baby bite at a time. You know, like you always say, eat the elephant one bite at a time. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And that's what I try to do with it. So it will open the doors for me to see a different me and try to live step by step into who I want to be. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: And so that's where I'm going with that, okay and so that's where I'm going with that and the steps that we go to that with is where I was looking for my Dr Jenny advice. Speaker 2: Dr Jenny, are you there, hello? Speaker 1: Dr Jenny. Speaker 2: Hello. Speaker 1: Dr Ginny Paging. Dr Ginny. Dr Ginny, are you there? Please report to the studio. Speaker 2: Let me pop in like Dr Bombay on, bewitched in a puff of smoke. Speaker 1: And so that's where I want to go, because I know you are my mentor Okay, you are the person I look up to and I'm in a spot to where I'm struggling with allowing myself to create the story in a way that is beneficial for everybody. Because that's where I battle with is we're in an environment to where you and I, we have a human agreement with one another , and if I create this story of myself, what's it going to do to you? Speaker 2: Okay, let's break it down. So if you are preventing yourself from, Let me get a drink of my coffee so I can wet my whistle. Speaker 1: That's root beer. Speaker 2: Indeed, it is Not mixed with coffee. No, that's root beer. Indeed, it is Not mixed with coffee. Speaker 1: No, that's root beer. Speaker 2: Okay, so let me understand exactly what it is that we're talking about. We're talking about allowing oneself to create a new story and become that story. Create a new story and become that story, and why one would not be allowing themselves to create a new story. Speaker 1: Right. Speaker 2: Well, it's been my experience that one of two things could possibly be happening, maybe one of three. A holding on to that old story is what is defined as giving you your identity, and if you let go of the story, then it could possibly be creating a situation where, oh my God, if I let go of this story, then who am I? And that in and of itself a loss of identity temporarily could be more uncomfortable than hanging on to the story. So it could be that that's a thing in a bill Feeling like that you deserve to, or because you have an additional story going on that you somehow have to do what's right by everybody else. So let's dive into that one a little bit, because that seems to be the general consensus out. There is that if I create the story to where my life looks exactly like I want it to look, then I am all of a sudden becoming a selfish individual that doesn't have kind, loving heart and compassion for the other people around me. The story somehow it gets written that if I do things that make me happy, I am going to trample on or affect somebody else's reality. So let's break it down. The reality of it is is that if you are always OK so let's begin here You're a spiritual being having a human experience, which means 90 of your being is spiritual. The spiritual aspect of you always maintains the highest vibrational state, which we as humans like to call it a love state of being, because there's really not another word for that vibrational frequency that feels amazing and blissful, and there are some people who can relate to that They've reached that place, you know, temporarily in meditation, or they've experienced it somewhere along the way, they may not be identifying it. If you are in that state of being, not only from your spiritual standpoint, which never changes, because that's your natural vibrational frequency your higher self, your spiritual self is never going to leave that place of being. By design. It is not going to leave that. It's not going to join you when you're having a crappy day. It's going to maintain its place, its vibrational frequency , and you're going to have to dump the baggage that you're carrying around and come to the level of frequency with the higher self, thereby creating a feeling of feel better. That's how that mechanism works. When you're having a grumpy day , higher self doesn't drop to your vibrational frequency and meet you there and say, oh okay, here, let's muck around in the mud puddle. It just doesn't happen that way . It's your responsibility as a human to dump beliefs, patterns and programs that will allow you to float back to your natural state of being humanly, which is the goal, or the objective is to get to a place where you, humanly and your spirit come together and begin to flow, ebb, flow, ebb as almost like one unit, and enjoy that love or blissful, happy frequency, to where then, you know, serendipity, synchronicity happens. Things are always in flow. Life feels like you know just spot on. Just grooving and grooving, and there is none of that yucky stuff. If you're having any kind of negative or not so pleasant feeling experiences, it's because you have dropped your frequency lower than what your higher self is. Okay, lower than what your higher self is. So if you are having an experience that has brought you lower than that frequency, then it is because you have written a story, you have taken on somebody else's baggage of belief, you've done something, that you're toting around some junk that is not serving you anymore and you have to get to a place where it's okay to let go of that junk. Because here's the part after the comma If you get to a place where you are vibrating at that frequency by doing what makes you happy and joyful in any given moment to the best of your ability and following that joy, you're going to put off an energy frequency that helps the collective, that helps the masses, because our energy intertwines, even on a subconscious level. When you come into contact with another individual, with your aura, for example, your energies mingle, and if your energy is at a high frequency, what it does is it takes the person that's not as necessarily at a high frequency and it uplifts their vibrational frequency. And so, more often than not, what happens is if you get to a place where you're constantly mentally in a feel-good place and positive, you're affecting your energy and your frequency stays high. That's more beneficial than worrying about your actions humanly, not affecting somebody or affecting somebody in a negative way, because then what happens? If you're so worried about how's this going to affect this person, it will change your actions and then it will become it'll feel like you have to. It'll become almost feel like chore-like. Like you have to. It'll become almost feel like chore-like or like you've got to perform. Keep the audience happier to keep the others happy, instead of looking for that joyful frequency within you, and let it happen on an energetic level rather than on a human action level. Speaker 1: Which, in turn, makes it energetic projection from yourself that other people will say oh, I'm happy that you're happy. Speaker 2: I'm just happy being in your energy because you're a feel good place for me. Speaker 1: Right Yep, yep, yep, yep. Speaker 2: Instead of your actions, creating situations that are feel better but not feel amazing. Speaker 1: Yeah, that are feel better but not feel amazing. Yeah, so the part that came up for me in this you know, because I have been developing this book in my head and I'm going to write this book and part of that is that came up on this topic was we are taught to respect others, to respect, um, our elders. You know, you've heard that, you've heard all the sayings. You know you need to respect your mama. You know you need to, you need to show all your elders respect and love, but nobody ever tells you how to. What do you mean by that? And you know, when you're not given, when you're given directive without explanation, the directive is pretty much useless because you're just out there floundering to figure it out yourself. And it's the same thing on this topic, when you're developing yourself into who you want to be and you become true with yourself. It didn't allow that to become not a loss of identity, because that rang a bell for me, you know, because that's truly what happened. You can give yourself a feeling of losing who you are and losing that identity, of how you've identified yourself, and that really rung a bell. But the other part of that is we get taught things and people have their perception or expectations of us, and when we go through here floundering without direction on how to really write this story in a better way, then it becomes a new point. Speaker 2: Well, it certainly can, especially if you're depending on somebody else to create the criteria and the definition around a word. Like we were taught as children , I'm going to teach you this word and the word gets this definition, which is then followed by this chain of steps that you must follow. And when we're taught that algorithm or that process, then we get dependent upon somebody creating the story for us, which then becomes not beneficial right. And so people forget and don't remember how to use their imagination and don't understand that they can create the story however they want it to be. There's no longer a parental rule book that you have to live by. And so that story can look however you want it to look. You can create the definitions and the processes in that, however you want them to be. So the first thing I would do would be the first question I would ask myself is why do I need an identity? Why do I need that? What purpose is it serving for me? It's okay to be a blank canvas and have no, necessarily no identity, right? If you go through life as a blank canvas and you're not holding on to some identity that makes you you, because you're going to get lost in who you are . Well, who are you? Answer that question who are you? Speaker 1: Me right now. Speaker 2: Yeah, right now. Stop and just answer that question. If I said to you who are you, Well, that's a good question. First thing that comes to your head. Speaker 1: Papaw. I am Papaw. That's a label that you've given me and that we've had for a long time, which is a very loving, caring person. Speaker 2: Because you defined it that way, right? Okay, so that's part of your identity structure. Speaker 1: Correct. Who else are you? I am James, your hubby, your husband, okay, your significant other. Speaker 2: Again, that's just a word that you've given some sort of meaning and definition to that creates this need for an identity structure. Okay, so who else are you? Speaker 1: I am a manager. Speaker 2: Okay, that's in the pie portion of your job. Speaker 1: Right and I, if you were to, you know, I think, who I am. Okay is I'm a loving, caring person. I'm very outgoing, and so I would identify myself as a very social individual that has fun. I like to be pretty lighthearted. I have my moments, but I think lightheartedness is part of who I am and I don't take things as serious as other people do. That's a tough question to answer for yourself. Speaker 2: It is, and so, if you stop and ask that does it really even need an answer? This is where I'm taking you so follow me for a second identity . Does it really even need to be who are you? Does that even really need to be? Does it matter who you are? Because the reality is is. Does that? Does that question even have an answer? Because you didn't tell me who you are. You told me the components that make up who you think that you are by way of the definition that you've given your story and yourself. Speaker 1: And the actions I think I'm putting out. Speaker 2: I think I'm putting out, and if you have to hang on to that to be something or to be successful or to feel like you're something then that's what's going to trip you up. So, getting to a place where you don't need, and nine times out of 10, you create this identity characteristic made up of all these different titles I'm a mother, I'm a wife, I'm a manager, I'm a doctor. Those are just titles, they're just words that you use to structure. But why? Why do you do that? And here's why. So, if you feel like you have to have an identity, you're usually doing that because you're needing to satisfy the expectation of people that come into your path. We've been taught that we have to explain who or what we are, and that's how we socialize, that's how we interact with other individuals, because awkward silence is awkward. Nobody's comfortable just sitting there reading the energy Like it's just not a thing. And so, therefore, you have to have a verbal story that gives you the opportunity to get to know one another, or what you think is getting to know one another. And so if you don't have an identity that is created by all of these titles that you've put together as your story, then somebody comes up and says hi, I'm Betty. And you say I'm James, and you get to socializing and mingling. By doing what? By saying, oh, I'm a manager and I do this at this building, and this is what that looks like , and I'm a father and I have so many kids Like you're telling a story as a way to socialize with an individual, because we've been taught that that is the appropriate way to mingle or interact with individuals. With individuals, we, as a tribe , we no longer sit quietly in the presence of their energy and read each other's energy or telepathically get a download of who they are or what they are or what their agenda is. We have to do that verbally. So if you have to do that verbally on a daily basis because as a society we've been taught that that's how we mingle or socialize, then you have to have a story, or you've convinced yourself that you have to have some sort of story, and telling a story means that you have to pull forward the history of what you've already lived to incorporate some sort of story to tell this individual because they're getting to know you, accompanied by air quotes I'm doing my fingers air quotes, the getting to know you is you having to relive the historical past of the story, which then, in turn, keeps bringing the history back in, because you keep telling stories to socialize. And so, if you have no identity, how awkward of a conversation have we been taught that it would be if you walk up and you say Hi, I'm James and I currently have no story because I'm rewriting my history, so I have nothing to tell you about me because I don't know who I am yet, because I've let go of the need for an identity. Speaker 1: Well, you know, we're taught this. That's a weird story, right, it is a weird story, you know, because all your social interactions are ranked by your identity. Because this is where my mind just went with all this. How profound is that statement you just made? Because everything that we do is ranked. I'm a doctor, I'm a lawyer, I'm an engineer, I'm a sacker at the grocery store, I'm an Uber driver, you know, and those are all looked at in different ways, sometimes condescending, sometimes not, but we're taught socially that we have to identify who we are to other people so we can maintain our level within society. Speaker 2: Yeah, social economical status. Speaker 1: Correct and we are. When we're taught those things and we're taking ownership of those repetitively by repeating our story or looking for that common ground. When you socially meet somebody new, you're looking for that common ground because we are social individuals, but society teaches us that we have to do that, and then we it's oh wow, that's crazy. It just keeps, you know, compounding the history of our own selves. It's a big loop and making us identify who we are to others, just so we can be ranked and judged. Yeah, that's crazy. Speaker 2: It's a big, huge loop , and so, therefore, we teach to rewrite history. Let go of the past, let go of the history, let go of the previous story and become somebody new. It is okay to do that, but if you're still living in that loop that we just explained, it is not okay. Those two programs will conflict every single time, because the minute that you come up against a new person and you've got to pull on some story to find common ground with that individual or have something to conversate about, because somewhere along the way it's become socially awkward to just sit and stare at each other or whatever, you will pull from your historical stories and retell those, and every time you do that, unfortunately, you're you're reactivating them, reinstilling it reinstating that history, reactivating that energy that that's. Speaker 1: that's what a what a crazy way of looking at it. I mean not crazy, it's a profound way, but it's crazy how it really makes it. When you put it in that perspective, if we don't live by societal taught ways, then us repeating history verbally to others is inevitable. It's inevitable, is inevitable. Speaker 2: Of course. Speaker 1: That's crazy. And so you have to figure out a way to circumvent and pop yourself out of that loop. So it doesn't really matter if you identify who you were and take ownership of it. You just got to give yourself permission to not identify it. Yeah, let it go. Speaker 2: It's okay to, so let's go this direction with it. Yeah, let it go, it's okay to, so let's, let's go this direction with it, because the first question that's coming up is okay. Well, how do you do that without looking like a weirdo? How do you come across a new person? Find relatable conversation? Speaker 1: and not you just hide in the corner somewhere and don't live experiencing. That's how you do it. Lay in a fetal position and suck your thumb. Don't forget to rock back and forth. Speaker 2: I don't want this Make sure you rock back and forth, because that helps. How do you navigate that? Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's a good question. Speaker 2: That would be the answer that would be beneficial. Speaker 1: I mean, I think for me, what I'm going to really focus on and what I'm going to tell these individuals I've been talking to is just, if you introduce yourself, introduce yourself as what you are right now. Hi, I am James and I'm a podcaster. That's it. You don't have to give me any history, because that's what you are right now I'm a podcaster. That's it. You don't have to give me any history, because that's where you are right now. You said something about how we are taught to not relive history, but really, what I was taught in school was to learn from history. Speaker 2: That's right. Speaker 1: And that's a much different energy. Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say One way to go about it is you can have your stories is one way to go about it is you can have your stories. If you remember correctly, I taught you to put them in a history book and put them on the universal shelf, Because anytime you're doing anything, you want to be relatable to that individual, Like, for example, in your job. You're the marketer of our company and we all know if you've had any experience in marketing. One of the good ways to relate with somebody is to find common ground, and that sometimes means that if they've had an event happen that is really big in their life and you've had a similar event, they know that they're not alone. Speaker 1: You share stories right. Speaker 2: And so you share stories, re-manifest and recreate the feelings that it did when it happened is basically sinking yourself back into that moment in time, because the mind doesn't know whether you're doing it or whether you're not. But if you'll visualize in your mind pulling that book down, that history book, turning to that page and reading it from the book as a way of saying, yeah, you know what I did, have this experience happen to me and what is the point of it, are you helping them come up with a solution on how to navigate that ? And so I did this and this and this and that helped me. You might try that. Whatever the new agenda is in pulling that history forward, identify that. Speaker 1: Don't just pull it forward randomly and then let yourself become that again because you can't ever just say, oh yeah, I did that, and then people will be like why are you bringing the story forward? Speaker 2: what's the? And get to the purpose, get to the point of it. Speaker 1: I understand yeah. Speaker 2: And don't go so far deep in the story to where it brings up those emotions, especially if they're uncomfortable. Speaker 1: You know, I just had a vision of what would the world look like if everybody just lived in a place of I am who I am, it doesn't matter what you think of me. Wow, that would be a crazy world. You just walk in, you have a whole bunch of people. They're not identifying who they are, so you'd have to learn to see if you resonate with people or not, because we are social creatures. That's what we do as humans we socialize, and so you would have to have a whole different way of learning to socialize. It would be kind of a cool. Speaker 2: Yeah. So everybody, pack you a carrot sandwich and hang on for a ride , because I'm going to take you in a direction for a second. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: You do realize that we're already being exposed to those concepts. Now, Okay. And here's how those concepts now. Okay, and here's how You've got the generation. Those that are computer generated. They very rarely talk, they're always on their phone and their electronics. And those are the Gen X. Speaker 1: No, we're Gen X. Speaker 2: Millennials, whatever they're called. They're a whole generation that don't feel the need to talk I know they were sitting at the table texting each other. That's right, we're already being shown what the world would look like if that's what we morphed into. We're being shown that and and getting desensitized to the wow. This is weird, especially gen x people where we ran around laughing, playing, telling our stories, like just. I feel like we ran around like man cubs on tarzan and so you have this whole new generation that feels no need to communicate with their mouth, have that energetic social interaction, and they don't. They don't have a need to do that. We're being shown that a little bite at a time, generation by generation, and so if you go even to the generation before them, you could kind of already start to see it manifest and happen. Crazy, kind of already start to see it manifest and happen, or even like the people that have the label of autism, who don't speak at all. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: They just go based on the vibrational frequencies and then they have a behavior. Yeah, we view them as you know, odd or different, for sure. Difficult yeah, and challenging because we've come so far away from our ancestral practices of sitting quietly in the energy and getting to know the energy sequence of people and it being okay to sit quietly. Speaker 1: You know, I remember when I was a kid, before the electronic age really hit, I mean we had black and white TV, but my family would get together and put on music and just dance . You know they would get together and just dance. It wasn't about watching HDMI TV or whatever HD 4K, you know, TV or movies or any of that stuff, or having computers and playing games or going on Facebook. None of that ever existed when I was a kid. And it's kind of a profound thought because I remember just sitting on a dirt mound in my front yard, not watching TV, not having a cell phone. But yet here we are, evolved, as they call it, which I think is not really evolved. Speaker 2: Oh, most definitely it is. Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. You think it's an evolution. Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to. I mean, if we're going to talk about electronics evolution, of course, because where we're going with that is creating AI, all the way to the point of having cars that have a consciousness and can read your desires and your thoughts and acting on their own accord to do what you want them to do, without you having to say anything or touch a button or any of that. That's where we're evolving to. That's where we're evolving to. Speaker 1: That's where we're going to you know. Yesterday morning when I was watching my shorts videos it, an app popped up on the advertisement called ai go and it is literally a virtual friend or girlfriend or whatever you want. It said it's not limited to anything, you can take it in any direction you want and I was like, wow so, and it can actually take on other people's personalities, pictures like you can create, like if you had like. In the commercial it showed the guy setting up the girlfriend because he chose a girlfriend in his app and he took a picture of his ex-girlfriend and turned his ai ai girlfriend into his ex-girlfriend and turned his AI girlfriend into his ex-girlfriend. Wow. Speaker 2: And so, basically, what's happening as a collective as a whole, as the all that is, we're being shown that the reality that we create is an illusion. We keep talking about that, we being me and myself and I, we keep talking about the reality that you're creating is just an illusion. But in order to explore that on a much more profound and multiverse level, we have to get the collective to embrace the concept of illusionary thinking, virtual thinking, virtual reality, so that we can grow and evolve past. The point of seeing is believing, needing an identity, needing to see it for yourself in order to believe it. The mechanism of believing and the belief systems doesn't work that way. You believe something, you create it, you find the energy of it and that's what brings it into and aligns with you. It's not seeing it first and then believing it. That does not work, never does. Speaker 1: It's crazy. You know, I started this podcast in a one mindset and I've completely changed to another mindset of who needs identity. You know, 10 years from now we're probably not even going to have names. Speaker 2: You do realize that the whole gender identity and the pronoun movement that's why that came about is getting us, as a collective, more comfortable with not needing an identity, not needing a story to be who we are, not needing to answer who are you? Being okay, with that question not having an answer. Speaker 1: Because we, you know, for those that are in life, I am whoever I want to be in this very given moment, that's correct. Speaker 2: Whatever that is. Speaker 1: What a different train of thought, but I really don't have anything to say about it actually, because you're right, he's speechless ladies and gentlemen, it very much can take you down a very deep hole of thinking about things, and that's what I enjoy doing, by the way Of course I love just thinking about it, and the identity movement, as you call it, I think, is a way that we have been taught to realize that spiritually we're asexual beings. It doesn't matter what our sex is. Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll give you an example of kind of a little bit of what we're talking about. We have a friend. He was convicted of a crime that he was innocent of, so he spent his entire life trying to prove his innocence and that's become part of his identity. And so, because he hangs on to that as part of his identity and has the need for an identity, he constantly and has the need for an identity. He constantly, subconsciously, is conversating with the people around him justifying his innocence in every single given situation, and he doesn't even realize that he does it. He constantly is going off on deep, deep stories of why this has to be this way, or why this is this way, or why I need you to do this, in an effort to constantly validate his innocence in everything. And he does it subconsciously and he doesn't even realize that he's doing it, because he keeps hanging on to that traumatic experience that happened to him as part of his identity. Speaker 1: It's crazy. Who needs an identity? Speaker 2: I mean, do you, do you really need an identity? And that's why I say I would never face reality because, reality is actually Weird. It's not weird, but here's another harebrained idea. The current reality that you're in is actually old news and it's part of history. So why face reality? It's already done, you've already manifested it. Once you get to a place where you're actually physically experiencing a thing, a place, an, an event, a person, it's because you you lined up with it way back whenever you were this other identity, and so now that it's manifested into your reality, it's actually just history. You've already done that. That's why sometimes, when things finally come into your reality, it's like oh, it's anticlimactic, because it's like I don't really even need that anymore, or I'm it didn't really create that emotion or that feeling or that experience that I wanted, because it's almost like I already had it. I've had that happen to me. Speaker 1: Huh, you would totally change my thought process on this topic. Speaker 2: Can I get a round of applause? Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, let me see, let me see, wait, wait, wait, ready, because the really I think what I'm taking away from it is it doesn't matter. Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. Speaker 1: The history doesn't matter. You can create the future however you want to, and that's really the best thing to take away. If history doesn't matter, you can create the future however you want to, and that's really the best thing. If you don't like the story, then let it go. Who cares? Speaker 2: Put it in the library , because it doesn't matter, because every single second you're creating a new you anyway , every single millisecond. And so what happened? So, on a bigger scheme of things, since we're already kind of one toe in the rabbit hole, so, on a bigger scheme of things , since we're already kind of one toe in the rabbit hole, all it is is a type of consciousness that wanted to experience, see what happens, to see what it feels like to see. And so, once you've done that, that's your mission, that's your objective. Your objective was never to come and hang on to the traumas, the dramas, the identity. Hang on to any of that and try to move forward. Hang on to any of that and try to move forward. Your objective was to come, have the experience, give it back to the all that is they get , to log the data as an experience of that, and so it's not necessary for you to lug that baggage around. It's not yours to lug around. You as an individual, as a spiritual being, are light when you're at your natural state of being. Speaker 1: So, if it feels challenging or heavy or whatever , it's not your, it's not your stuff anymore, like it's not yours, so let it go I had a gentleman in my life when I was in high school that really made a change in my life and he used to always say this he was a football coach, his first year, the first year in there, you walk into the gym, you're signing up to go play football and you walk up to the table. Actually, I walk up to the table and I was like hey coach, um, I'm here, I want to play football. I've never played before, um, I don't know how to play. And he stopped me and he says I don't care what you've done, I want to know do you want to play football and what do you want to be in football? Because I can teach you any of it. Speaker 2: That's right. Speaker 1: I just want to know what you're going to be. I don't care what you've been Way before his time. Love that man, coach and Coach Ted Foster. Speaker 2: That goes with anything. Yeah, you can learn absolutely anything. It's the mind blocks that you can't. That trip people up Interesting . You can be whoever, you can do whatever. Speaker 1: You want to be. Speaker 2: Anything. Speaker 1: Anything, anything, and just let the history go. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: No need to dwell on it, just let it go. Speaker 2: No need to be blocked up by it. Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I feel very complete. Do you feel complete? Speaker 2: I am always complete, sir. You're always complete. You complete me. Speaker 1: Oh, she loves me, she loves me, anyway. Well, hey, you know, who cares who you are? Just be who you want to be. Speaker 2: That's right. Speaker 1: Love it. Thank you all for listening today. Thank you, love you we love you , like, follow, share, subscribe , hit that little Bing and don't forget the notifications for when we post one. And don't forget somebody to put in the comments is grandiosity. Is that a? Is that a definition? Speaker 2: Yes, I love it. Speaker 1: I love you all, thank you.

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