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Speaker 2: Good morning
everybody.
Welcome back.
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thank you.
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The Spirits Will Grind.
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Speaker 1: Daytona Beach oh
there's Jenny.
Speaker 2: There's the doctor in
the house.
Good morning, Dr.
Jenny.
Speaker 1: Good morning.
Speaker 2: Well, here we are
once again in Daytona Beach,
Florida, doing our thing, living
life, loving life, creating
awesome things.
Living life, loving life,
creating awesome things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are in an
amazing spot at the what's it
called?
Speaker 2: RV.
What's this place called
International RV Park?
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're
looking for a beautiful, quiet,
peaceful place to put your unit
or your tent.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: This is a really
amazing place.
It really is, it's got a couple
of little man-made lakes,
forestry out behind it.
You get to see lots of animal
life and it's very quiet and
very peaceful.
Speaker 2: It is, and there's
wildlife, lots of nature, yeah,
wildlife.
We've got a big eagle that we
get to look at every day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I named him.
Speaker 2: Biff.
You nicknamed him Biff yeah.
Speaker 1: He's big, he's huge.
Speaker 2: I guess people don't
really realize objects in the
mirror may be bigger than they
seem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no
mirror.
Speaker 2: Yeah Well, there is
across the lake because it
reflects.
Yeah Well, there is across the
lake because it reflects onto
him.
That's how I see him the first
time the reflection in the water
.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a big and
beautiful man.
Speaker 2: He's very majestic.
Speaker 1: He is very majestic,
but in my comic book life, in my
head, he's like this
bodybuilder bird that's big and
buff and I imagine him having
like an Italian accent.
Speaker 2: So I named him Biff.
Oh okay, but it kind of brings
me to the topic.
Actually it's kind of a good
little starter.
Speaker 1: I'm good at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are.
He is perception of oneself.
Do you think Biff sees himself
as this big majestic?
Speaker 1: Never really thought
about it actually.
I think that's where I'm
probably jealous with nature is
that do they get tangled up in
the quandaries of
self-evaluation from a mental or
physical standpoint, or do they
just kind of live life and they
just maintain their natural
state of being and about
self-perception for me today and
perceiving, you know, like, for
example, the uh journey we're
on right now and we're
developing these things and
doing things that I viewed
myself as wow.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can
do this, you know, and because
of a perception.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, We've
talked about that before in our
coffee talks.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can an old dog learn
new tricks, kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can an old dog
learn new tricks, kind of thing?
Yeah, but here's the thing with
it is being humble enough in it
to be open to learn.
That was my thing is.
My perception of me was I'm 52.
Speaker 1: Oh my God, You're
what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're older
than me, so easy.
Speaker 1: I don't even keep up
with that.
I don't even know how old I am
than me so easy.
Speaker 2: I don't even keep up
with that.
I'm 52 years old and according
to society is is I don't know
that an old dog can learn new
tricks, and so getting over the
hump and how you perceive
yourself for me is where my
thought process was this morning
.
Can I do and learn new things
at my age?
And the reality is, yes, but
getting through the beliefs
behind the perception.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should read
my latest article.
Speaker 2: How is it about this?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about
aging.
Adopt the beliefs of the
societal perspective of the
chronological aging process, so
that we can easier make sense of
the death and dying concept.
Yeah, so therefore, our body
listens to us because we're the
god, essence of our own universe
, which is the, the body, and so
your cells, molecules and atoms
listen to the frequency of that
.
And so if you believe that you
can age based on society's
teaching you that with each
birthday you're a year older and
so you must deteriorate and act
this way and act that way at
certain ages, yeah, you're right
, and a lot of people think and
this is another myth out there
that there's something to be
said for the length of time that
people lived prior to the
calendar being invented.
Speaker 2: In the Bible it talks
about people living for
thousands of years.
You know, in Egyptian culture
there's stories of people living
700, 800 years.
And the Aztecs?
You know the Aztecs.
The same way, you know, there's
historical documentation of the
oldest king being 312.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Or the oldest ruler I
don't Right or the oldest ruler
, I don't think they called him
a king, but that was before the
calendar was invented.
Speaker 1: I see.
Speaker 2: And so is the
societal type beliefs based upon
the age and the calendar that's
been created.
What does it do to you and your
thought process in aging?
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And the beliefs that
are behind that.
Because we are, you know, we
have a birthday party every year
, so we're a year older.
And in the spiritual world, in
the spiritual life, there is no
calendar, there is no clock.
There is, you know, none of
that really exists.
Speaker 1: Right, it's all an
illusion.
Speaker 2: It's all an illusion,
that's all an illusion I agree,
and if people were to look at
it differently from a
perspective of?
Well, let me let me back up my
challenges within it were this
is I have been societally taught
that you're you know, when you,
when you get to our age, you
know?
I remember when I thought 40
was old, I used to make fun of
my dad for being 40.
And here I am, I'm 52, and I
don't feel 52 for what I thought
52 would feel like.
Speaker 1: Right yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, we have a
friend of ours that they're
going on a trip to Italy.
She's the 70s, I don't know in
her 70s, I don't know, oh, 70s,
I don't know in her 70s I don't
know.
Speaker 1: Oh, late 70s, yeah,
and she's talking about going on
a segue tour.
Never rode one in her life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah and you
know, we were talking about this
issue just yesterday, and how
cool is it that you don't
realize your age right, I mean
because age really doesn't exist
.
Speaker 1: It's a thought and it
doesn't really matter right and
it doesn't matter I mean, the
rabbit hole part of it is is
that you didn't come here to get
it done.
You never get it done.
You're not finished.
If you choose to, you'll come
back here and experience
humanness and a different way,
or same way, different content.
You don't get it done.
Death is not the end-all be-all
, because death doesn't exist.
You change form and that was
part of what my article is about
.
Because society has such a hard
time with the death and dying
process of young versus old, the
aging process.
One of the reasons it was
constructed, I think, was to
help ease us through death and
dying of the physical body,
because you'll hear people say,
oh, she passed away, she was 90,
she lived a long full life and
she was in such pain and her
body had deteriorated and so it
makes it okay.
But then if you have a young
person die, leave their physical
body, the conversation looks
much different.
Oh yeah, why?
Speaker 2: did.
Speaker 1: God, take them.
They had so much life to live.
God needed another angel.
Leave their physical body.
The conversation looks much
different.
Oh yeah, why?
Speaker 2: did God take them?
They had so much life to live.
Speaker 1: God needed another
angel.
They had so much life left to
live.
I don't understand, I don't get
it Right.
Or if somebody leaves their
physical body and there's
nothing visibly wrong with them
and they're still very healthy
and vitality is running through
their bones and it it's hard for
the human mind to make logical
sense out of the concept of
death.
Speaker 2: Or live in the
physical body, and that's
evidenced by the conversations
that take place there's so many
different realms out there that
that uh are ways that people
have thought about.
Are they how they think about
death?
Speaker 1: and it's all done by
different cultures too yeah, and
the aging process, too, is
entangled with rites of passage
wisdom yes if you're a, as a
society, we get tangled up in
the mess of children have no
intelligence value because
they're young and haven't lived
a life and they haven't been due
.
And the elderly are so wise
that we must listen to the
elders because they've lived
such a long life.
But I know some pretty dumb old
people.
Speaker 2: And.
I know some pretty dumb old
people and I know some pretty
smart young people.
Speaker 1: And so all of that's
just a bunch of hooey to me.
I agree?
Speaker 2: No, I totally agree.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a status
thing.
Age has become a status thing.
Yeah, All the way down to
respect your elders.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm old
.
You must now respect me you
know, there's a reason why the
natives don't call it elders,
they call them ancestors.
Speaker 1: But anyway, and
that's why because they don't.
Speaker 2: They recognize the
human leaving the body, but they
don't recognize the spirit
dying oh, I see and so they,
when they, when they pray to
their ancestors.
Technically, you know the
elders, whatever you want to
call it, Because you know the
tribe does have people they call
elders that are supposed to
help carry on the traditions.
Speaker 1: Guide or whatever.
Speaker 2: Guide through the
process.
But going back to what I was
saying was is the other cultures
treat it much differently.
Speaker 1: Also.
Speaker 2: You know, they'll
have different different.
They have different rituals,
they have different ways of
burying their, burying their
people.
You know they have different
thought processes on it and I
was the reason why I was saying
that is because when you go into
the thought of leaving the
human body does what does the
spirit does and what does it do?
Because for years and and what
I'm getting to is it's to a
point is we were taught that you
know when you're younger and
your spirit goes to heaven or
goes to hell.
We were also taught all these
other little things in science,
and science is ever evolving,
and we just watched a show
yesterday that used to think
that what I think the pyramids,
or stonehenge, was the oldest
existence of life right, yeah,
something like that and they
discovered a whole nother
civilization, civilization that
dates back 1500 years prior to
that, like supposedly right
before the Ice Age.
And so everybody takes all this
stuff.
They're taught, they take it as
it's fact.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah.
Speaker 2: And they take it as
it, but the reality is that it's
ever evolving.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And that is what
we're here to do.
We're here to evolve.
Do I believe that that's even
the oldest civilization?
Absolutely not.
I'm not even sure I truly
believe in the Ice Age that
supposedly happened, because I
think what happened is, I think,
that we were brought here from
other planetary better, you know
, not better, but
extraterrestrial,
extraterrestrial I can't even
say the word right now ETs.
ETs.
Yeah, I think we revolve from
there and I think that if we
think that we are the only
intelligible intelligent species
in existence, then we would be
completely naive.
There are way too many.
I mean, the galaxy is huge.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And if you were to
look at it from different
perspectives, of where do we go?
Do we go to the next planet
next, whatever it is, I don't
really care, but science is ever
evolving and it's not always
right.
Speaker 1: Well, it's just not
static.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You have to leave
room for the growth of science
as well, because we have not
explored no-transcript, but just
a small percentage of the
planet, so we don't know what's
been buried up by the sands of
the planet we live on or the
waters that we can't dive to yet
, and so to think that there
were not some other
civilizations that existed way
before the 15,000 mark is also
very naive.
Totally Because we haven't
gotten to a place where we can
explore them doesn't mean that
what science currently shows us
is the end, all be all.
Speaker 2: Correct you got to
leave that open because there's
so much more that we've not
explored we have no idea, we
have no clue no clue I mean
every piece of land or whatever
that we are in right now could
have somebody below us could
have yeah evidence of it.
I mean, I was just watching
another show where they just
found a new dinosaur in wyoming
that they didn't have documented
before.
Speaker 1: Right, exactly.
And then beside that, they
found Well, and then I was
watching, I guess I don't know,
ancient Alien, one of those
where they found civilization.
They dug it up, it was buried.
Then they began to dig below
that and evidence showed them
that there was a whole separate
civilization and their community
was underneath that layer, yeah
, separate, and apart from the
one they had found.
So, they essentially found two
civilizations stacked on top of
each other in the actual earth.
Speaker 2: Right.
Civilizations stacked on top of
each other in the actual earth,
right?
My biggest question was on that
show we were watching that
found that 1500 year earlier
spot that was out in the middle
of nowhere.
There were no big mountains
around it.
Speaker 1: No, it was desert.
Speaker 2: So how did that get
covered in dirt and how cool was
it that that guy they're
claiming that they, like the
inhabitants of the, the
civilization, covered it up on
purpose.
Oh, okay, I didn't hear that
part of it.
Speaker 1: That's what they're
claiming.
Speaker 2: I mean it would make
sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, like anything
else, that would be a lot of
dirt, you know, as the winds
blow and they carry the dirt and
you're talking about desert.
Like there were no trees, there
was nothing in that space, it
would be very easy, over 15,000
years, for the dirt to blow over
that and cover it up.
Speaker 2: But how long is that
really?
What, If there's not a calendar
?
How long is it really?
Speaker 1: Well, now you're
wanting to go down the rabbit
hole Right.
Speaker 2: I'll grab you by the
hand and pull you in the
calendar.
How long is it really?
Well, now you're wanting to go
down the rabbit hole right I'll
grab you by the hand and pull
you in but it could have been
just yesterday and we just
jumped dimensions it certainly
could have been you know that's
a could be a whole nother
reality a lot of people can't
perceive they're.
Speaker 1: They're still
actively living in that uh place
and we just can't see them
because we're not open and
receptive to it right, you know
it's, it's totally a um, because
the quantum theory and the
multiverse um community believes
that there are realities going
on simultaneously oh yeah, so
for every reality there's an
opposite reality going on, and
every variation in between that.
So anything that you can think
of, the slightest little change
in your current reality
automatically creates a reality
with that change in it, and so
then those realities are
parallel and they're flowing yes
and if you choose to jump over
and ride that reality and align
with that frequency, then you'll
experience that that's how the
mandela effect actually happens
is that you were in this reality
and you chose to change
realities.
And there's a part of you that
remembers being in the previous
reality at the same time that
you're in this reality, and
that's how that all happens.
There, you have it, ladies and
gentlemen.
Rabbit hole the Bernstein.
Speaker 2: Bears.
Hope your sandwich was
goodernstein or bernstein
depends on who you talk to and
how do the simpsons know all the
future events?
This exposed another one where
that uh, in their one of their
episodes in the 90s, where that
billionaire, that ceo for that
big major company got caught
cheating on the kiss cam at the
game.
It was all over social media, I
don't know if you saw it but no,
he was in with the director of
hr the company and he's the ceo
of the company and they were.
They got caught on kiss cam in
front of everybody and and that
was predicted on the symptoms as
well.
Speaker 1: Not very smart.
Speaker 2: Nope, Especially the
director of HR.
That's kind of crazy, Anyway.
So going back to where I'm at
is you know, we're taught all
this stuff scientifically and
throughout the time growing up
and the beliefs were in my mind
of being 52 and not being able
to sustain that amount of
intelligence to be able to do
learn what I'm learning now.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Clearing those
beliefs out of the way.
You know it was a tough one.
The last couple of days I've
been kind of dealing with it.
Speaker 1: Really I have
Interesting.
Speaker 2: And what I discovered
was, as I was taught this is
that there's a certain point
that I remember in class was
taught.
This is that there's a certain
point that I remember in class
getting taught this there's a
certain point that the brain
quits growing, and I was taught
that in school and that you
should learn while you're young
and take advantage of it, and
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and
you know.
Then, of course, you hear the
old.
You can't teach an old dog new
tricks.
Yeah, you know that kind of
stuff.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And I was dealing
with that the last couple days
and then I realized you little
pea brain.
I learn something every single
day.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: And that is nonsense.
A hundred percent nonsense and
so I've been working on clearing
all that because I'm I'm
learning how to do this new
process of uh for our I don't
want to make it a sales thing,
but you know, for our app and
learning to do that it's I mean,
it's entailed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah,
there's videos to watch and's.
I mean, it's entailed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's
videos to watch, and yeah, and
there's.
It's not like you went to
college for computer programming
or anything like that.
Speaker 2: We barely had
computers when I was in high
school, right, I mean, we had
like what that little dos with
that little green cursor yeah,
yeah, and I did learn how to use
that.
Speaker 1: I remember in class
the teacher would say okay, type
this in some configuration of
characters and then type in run
and it made a heart.
Yeah, I do remember that Like
little fun things like that.
And so that's how our computer
life started, and if you think
about the generations to follow,
like our kids and their kids,
they are all about computers.
That's their norm.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what one
of our kids does.
He's a coder.
Speaker 1: And that's his norm.
That's his normal.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like a whole
other language.
I was reading some of the
coding yesterday, and there's
words like Ajax.
What the heck does that?
Speaker 2: mean.
Speaker 1: Is it a cleaner?
It's some kind of a command
problem, maybe Because Ajax is a
cleaner that you have under
your sink that you can scrub
like the shower.
Speaker 2: It's one of the
command prompts in coding.
I'd be curious to know what it
means.
Speaker 1: Does it mean it's a
scrubber.
Speaker 2: Maybe who knows,
there was a whole bunch of stuff
after it, but it was like C,
colon, slash, slash, ajax, a
bunch of other stuff.
And then you're like, how the
heck does everybody remember?
I mean, there's words for
everything and I guess somehow
that's all defined in coding.
But right, if, if you know, I'm
sure, I'm sure our, our son
knows how to, what it means, and
I'm going to ask him today
because I'm curious, but because
I was just looking at some of
the stuff when I get down on the
video and, uh, there's a lot
there to remember, like you know
yeah, but you have.
Speaker 1: You've got a
beautiful memory and you can run
the video back and tap into
that.
Speaker 2: So give yourself
credit.
No, I agree I can.
And uh, the yeah, you know
that's, that's kind of what I
how I got over the hump
yesterday and this morning.
I kind of finished it up a
little bit this morning and I'm
just done with that.
I'm done with that thought
process.
I'm never going to quit
learning.
Speaker 1: Burn the bitch down.
Speaker 2: I'm never going to
believe anything anybody teaches
me unless I check it out for
myself.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, 100%.
I feel like that's one of the
things we teach along the way in
the podcast is we will explain
our viewpoint and our opinion of
a scenario or a situation.
We'll provide the tools that
worked for us, will provide the
tools that worked for us, but
always, always, will tell every
single client or person that we
interact with go do your own
homework.
If it does not resonate with
you, if it does not feel right,
fit right, put that shit in the
garbage and move on and try
something else.
Speaker 2: You're going to be
careful.
You're going to get deemed as
explicit content by cousin, our,
our, uh, our podcast
distribution centered our
podcast.
Last podcast that jenny posted
this morning flagged it as
explicit content because we were
both cussing we were feeling a
little salty that day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we
teach is don't take what we even
say as the guidebook for life
no like.
What we teach is go figure out
what your process looks like but
use ours and see if it works
for you right, test it out, and
if it works, wonderful, great.
If it Test it out and if it
works, wonderful, great.
If it doesn't put it in the
garbage and try something else.
Speaker 2: Try something else.
Speaker 1: And the other part of
that is, if it works for one
day, two days, 10 days a week a
month, and then it doesn't work
anymore, give yourself
permission to toss it out at
that point and try something
different.
Speaker 2: Because everybody can
learn.
Speaker 1: Of course, everybody
can learn to do any of the
things that we talk about doing
as far as spiritual gifts, yeah,
Anybody can learn human skills
and abilities.
Any one person can learn any
aspect of any of this.
Yeah, don't box yourself into
thinking that you can't.
Speaker 2: Right, you know.
Speaker 1: Give yourself the
space to know that if you are
breathing and your heart is
beating and you have a brain,
you can learn it.
Speaker 2: Right, totally agree.
I don't know how many times I
heard in our last, in our
previous job, that getting old
sucks well, old is, old is a
perception it if you want to
believe that then you want to
jump down another little theory
that kind of popped in my head
yesterday always.
Speaker 1: You know me, I live
to live in the rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: You know, we live in
a universe.
Planetary universe is what
science teaches us, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you actually.
You run a universe and live in
a universe.
Speaker 2: Right, and we rotate
around the sun.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: And the sun has other
planets that rotate around it
as well.
The sun has other planets that
rotate around it as well.
And what if we are just an atom
in somebody else's body?
Of course, Because the sun
could be the nucleus of the atom
.
Yeah, and we could be.
I mean think about that
perception.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what if we're
the tick on the back of the
dog's body?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Thinking that we're
living on some planet.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's really just
a dog.
Speaker 2: And we're really just
a tick on the dog's butt or a
cat, or Isn't that crazy A
flower.
Speaker 1: Think about that
perception for a moment, or like
on Men in Black, because if you
look, we live live in a locker.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you think
about it, they look the universe
and an atom, look a whole lot
alike.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2: And that is what
science has taught us is what
the atom looks like.
So you know, if it's not
exactly like the universe, it
doesn't mean it's correct.
It means it could be, we could
be living as a cell in somebody
else's body.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Crazy.
It's a beautiful thought it's
the fun places I like to be it's
one of those things I was like
am I smart enough to even think
about this?
Speaker 1: it's a twizzler
moment.
Am I smart enough to think
about that?
Speaker 2: those are the kind of
things I sit around and think
about and yeah, that was that
was a as a pastime that was a
comment, that was a thought I
had last night, right before I
went to bed, actually, wow,
right before I went to sleep.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you
didn't have a dream off of it,
or something.
Speaker 2: I didn't, I had no
dreams last night.
It was kind of a quiet night
for me.
I slept good, though, and I
slept like, and I was like yep,
go to my sleep.
Speaker 1: Okay, because.
Speaker 2: I like to sit outside
and drink my coffee, and it was
raining, yeah, so I was like,
okay, I'm going to go to my
sleep.
But going back to where the
conversation, is.
Speaker 1: Are you complete?
Speaker 2: I am complete.
Okay, I'm always complete.
You mean for the podcast?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, no.
No, I mean, are you complete
for the podcast?
Yeah, I don't know.
No, I mean, are you complete
for the podcast?
I mean, you stalled out a little
bit, I did stall a little bit
actually you were like in your
own little I was in my own
little world world of living on
the ass of a dog as an atom I
mean we could be anything.
We could be.
A tire on a truck, we could be,
because everything is made up
of matter, matter energy.
Absolutely, we are yeah we
could be just spinning around
the nucleus of somebody's
digestive digestive system
getting ready to be a big pile
of poop.
Yeah, you know who knows you
don't, you have no it's kind of
comical if you think about it,
like I could be a ball that a
clown's throwing in the air.
I could be that snot that comes
flying out of the to the emu's
mouth when they spit at you.
It's the truth.
You could be, you just never
know.
It's kind of funny at times,
but that's the.
That's where my mind's been.
Speaker 1: The last is is
understanding the perception of
of so if we take it a little bit
deeper, here's the deeper now
that you've had that thought
that it's a possibility that
reality now actually exists in
the multiverse, and if you chose
to find the frequency of it,
you could line up with that
reality and that could become
your actual reality that you
live and breathe in, with the
awareness that you're in that
reality here's another thought.
Speaker 2: No, no, totally,
totally 100.
It's been a kind of a crazy
thought for me, because here's
another part you want to live on
the ass for years no, no,
listen, listen here, you hear
this out, the.
I've always thought for a moment
.
I've had that thought in the
back of my head.
You know, during this time I've
had this thought of but do we
only exist on living things?
Yeah right, I know you're
looking at me crazy, because
that trailer right over there is
not a living thing according to
our science, but in reality it
is living Because it's made up
of the same things that we're
made of.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
That's quantum at its most
finest, because energy is made
up of molecules and atoms and
they have their own
consciousness.
So the rabbit hole, reality is
that the chair that you sit on
has a level of consciousness in
and of itself.
Speaker 2: And we are made of
the same stuff that this chair
is made of.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Am I wrong in the
scientific teachings?
Speaker 1: Well, in the science
world, they're not there yet.
And the metaphysical world?
You know, that's the kind of
crap that we metaphysicians play
around with and toy with all
the time.
Speaker 2: So here's food for
thought in that world.
Speaker 1: Food for thought.
Bring your carrot sandwich.
Speaker 2: A living tree that's
growing and blossoming okay that
is a living entity.
Okay, right, yeah, okay.
So you cut a branch off that
tree and you make a chair out of
it.
Yeah, is that branch still
alive?
Is that chair alive?
Deep thought too.
Is it Cause?
Speaker 1: I mean, are you
asking me?
No, I'm just rhetorically
putting it out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's one
of the things that I've been
thinking about, one of the
thoughts of you know, you have a
tree, you have dirt, you shovel
dirt, you put that dirt
somewhere that creates a
foundation for a house.
Yeah, where does that dirt
belong?
Back in that hole or into the
foundation of that house?
You know, what I mean and so
that's where my head has been
going to is is not believing
what we've been taught and
actually proving it for
ourselves, because I truly had
that conscious thought of man.
I don't know if I can learn
this.
Speaker 1: And then, of course,
my ego was like F that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your ego
sometimes is off the chain.
You hear me sometimes talking
to myself.
I do hear you a lot of times.
Speaker 1: I just ignore it, and
it's not because you're talking
with your mouth, it's because
telepathically I can hear you
having the conversations.
Speaker 2: Like I can be the
same thing as that trailer
sitting right there.
Speaker 1: In some reality in
the multiverse.
You are that trailer sitting
there.
How does it feel?
Speaker 2: What a boring life.
You're sitting there doing
nothing.
Speaker 1: What a peaceful life.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe because I
humanly, you know I don't like
to sit.
Still, I do a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: so but just think
about it Like there is no monkey
mind.
There's nothing that trailer
has to do, but just sit there
and be.
Speaker 2: And hold on to his
buddies.
Speaker 1: And just exist in its
beauty and in its existence.
Speaker 2: And so here's another
thing, another food for thought
I had when we were walking
through the flea market last
weekend.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Because I've been
kind of dealing with this
thought process for a minute.
Speaker 1: The perspective yeah,
yeah, okay 3D printing.
Okay.
Speaker 2: Hmm, are they really
making living creatures in
another dimension?
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: So when they print up
one of those fancy lizards,
that's all.
Speaker 1: you are Out of matter
.
Speaker 2: That's made out of
matter.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 2: And so that's kind of
crazy, like those 3D printers
are creating life.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Let me go one better.
Guess what science is doing
with 3D printing.
Speaker 2: Making.
I've seen them making organs.
Speaker 1: They're actually
printing organs like livers and
hearts.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, isn't
it?
It's cool, though.
Speaker 1: So how do you know?
You're not just a 3D print that
I created for my experience of
having you to play with.
Speaker 2: Hmm, or maybe we're
all.
Everything is 3D printed by the
ETs.
Speaker 1: Or a bigger
consciousness than that, or a
bigger consciousness.
Speaker 2: I know it's crazy,
isn't it?
It can go crazy directions, but
the point of the matter is is
you're never too old because age
is a taught societal belief.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: And guess what?
All those holidays on the
calendar, those are created to
sell things.
Just so you know, Like today is
National Read a Book Day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't forget
who do you think invented that.
Speaker 2: I looked it up Barnes
and Nobles.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Barnes and Noble put
it out there While we're here
you can get my book Scripted
from Within on Amazon and on KDP
.
Yep on Kindle.
Speaker 1: It is there, ready
for the taking.
Yep, mine's on there too, it's
a little read about beliefs and
how to go about identifying them
and working with them.
Speaker 2: That is actually a
book you could read in one day.
Speaker 1: It is on purpose.
I wanted it to be a gentle,
easy read so that people could
get it.
Speaker 2: I mean, don't get me
wrong, I did make the format a
little small for the letters, so
it probably should have been a
little longer.
Speaker 1: No, I think you did.
I think it's it ended up
exactly the way it was supposed
to.
Speaker 2: I agree that's.
It ended up exactly the way it
was supposed to.
I agree, that's what I believe.
I still think it's crazy that
in the manuscript on the
computer it shows page numbers,
but by golly you look at it on
the author's side and they're
right on there well, we also
ordered the author's oh, I
didn't think about that.
Speaker 1: Author's copies could
be copy, and so maybe we didn't
pay enough to get the page
numbers printed.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know,
that's funny.
Anyway so that's where my
perception has been there and my
thoughts have been the last day
or two, or actually I've been
thinking about that for probably
a week or two.
Speaker 1: you know cause I had
that thought at yeah, I, I feel
like you kind of go back and
forth and retouch it every time
you have to learn something that
you, from your perspective uh,
you perceive by for yourself is
challenging or a learning curve,
as I do air quote your
perspective is you kind of have
to walk yourself through that.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: Because you did the
same thing when we started the
podcast.
Speaker 2: And the website Over
a year ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then when
you went in and decided you were
going to put the website
together, you kind of did the
same thing.
Yeah and so I think, anytime it
is something that you find
challenging to learn, you kind
of bump up against that place
again yes, I agree, I concur,
but anyway, that's where my
thought was, and I'm here to
tell you all.
Speaker 2: First of all, age is
just a belief that you've been
taught by society yeah so look
at that.
Um, you can be anything.
You want to be, even a trailer,
if you want to be a trailer,
right and uh, food for thought.
While you're sitting there
drinking your coffee in the
morning, I want you to close
your eyes and imagine yourself
being the atom of something else
that's existing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know,
that's how.
Manifestation really Not even
being the atom.
Speaker 2: You're actually a
piece itty-bitty, tiny piece of
the atom.
Speaker 1: Well, you know,
that's what one of the theorists
back in the day did essentially
and I don't remember his name,
I apologize you guys he took and
cut up a plant and cut it again
, and cut it again, and cut it
again to get down to the
smallest piece that he possibly
could, to see if it still was
going to be a plant leaf.
And so he was the first one that
introduced society to the atom
yeah and I think his name is
some version of the word atom
and that's how it became called
the atom, because I think his
well, isn't that how the atom
bomb came around too?
They split the nucleus of an
atom I think his name was
autonomous or something like
that well, anyway, all right.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm complete,
are you complete?
Always well, guys.
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Speaker 1: Does that mean I have
to put it there?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'll teach you how.
Okay, because I don't know how
to do that yet.
I'm now the editor of our
podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, our editor
retired.
She won the lottery and flew to
France, anyway.
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, Not this me.
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