Encounters in the Dark: Exploring Cryptids and Challenging Beliefs

Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. Ladies and gentlemen, what a fun time we're having doing these podcasts and we really appreciate you guys listening and tuning in. Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a lot of fun. We enjoy it we have a blast? Speaker 1: Yeah, we do. It's kind of a crazy world we live in, but we love it. Crazy good, crazy good, crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy good. So funny thing just happened. I come up, we were starting a podcast, I exposed that topic and my mind went completely blank. It's just like okay, spirit, it's time I get it. We're not supposed to talk about that right now. Speaker 2: So here we are again I, I mean it happens, it does it just got pulled, everything got pulled right out of my old radio spot. Speaker 1: What just happened? What, oh my Anyway. Speaker 2: I wonder what that'll sound like in the car. I don't know. We'll find out Anyway. Speaker 1: So here we are on the topic number two today. Okay, actually, I guess it's number three, because we did a podcast this morning. Speaker 2: I'm ready. I'm ready for it. Are you ready? Speaker 1: Yep, you ready for it ? This is a part of my growing up . I have a few experiences I want to talk about with this topic. I've done a lot of research in it and I know you are a certified cryptologist Certified . So the question is is Bigfoot real? The Yeti? Speaker 2: I feel like we've talked about this before. Speaker 1: We touched on it in one topic. Speaker 2: Oh. Speaker 1: In one podcast we touched on a a little bit on the Are we Alone. Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. Speaker 1: I'm talking about the aliens, the Bigfoot or the swamp creature or the Yeti or what do they call it in Louisiana they call it something down there Mud, mud or something I don't know. There's all sorts of names for this one entity that looks like a big giant monkey. Speaker 2: Hairy, hairy man. Speaker 1: Hairy, big, hairy man , monkey man, Nine foot tall. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: It's a funny story. Okay, I was hunting one day and I was in Osage County, oklahoma . My entire family used to get together during Thanksgiving week of Thanksgiving and we would go hunting. We didn't celebrate Thanksgiving, we went hunting, yeah. Week of Thanksgiving and we would go hunting. We didn't celebrate Thanksgiving, we went hunting, yeah. And it's about 4 o'clock in the morning and I'm sitting in a tree on the top of this ridge and I hear this noise behind me. Speaker 2: And Doug the Yeti from Progressive climbs up the tree and says you can save a lot on your insurance. Speaker 1: What is wrong with her? Speaker 2: I couldn't help it. I've had too much sugar, I guess. Speaker 1: And so I heard this noise behind me and I'm looking around. I'm like man that sounds big, that sounds big. And so I look around this tree, like imagine me with my hands looking around this tree, pulling myself over, and all I see is this red eyes. And I'm like the heck is that? And we had walkie-talkies and I get on the walkie-talkie and I'm like there is something big behind me that has red eyes. And you know my Uncle Gary. He was crazy and you know what he said. Speaker 2: No. Speaker 1: He said well, it's Bigfoot. What are you scared of? I was like 13 or 14. And I literally think I peed my pants. So I'm watching and I keep looking around the corner. I'm looking around there, the eyes are still there. I'm watching one time and then they blink. Speaker 2: Ooh, her, I'm looking around there. Speaker 1: The eyes are still there. I'm watching one time and then they blink and I'm like, oh mg, what is this, you know? And so I just turned back around and act like, if I can't see it, he can't see me this would be the time where you would pull the blanket over your head yeah, crawl up in a little ball and then it's not real, it's not real, it's not real, it's not real, it's not real. And so I keep looking and then you know it had to be. An hour went by, maybe hour and a half, and we started to get the moon was going down, so it got a little darker and the sun started to come up and you can see it cresting. And I'm just praying because I can watch the sun going down the trees as it's rising and probably 20 minutes before sunrise, complete sunrise. I look around the corner again and all I see is one eye, this time One eye yeah there's only one there. I don't know if he was winking at me. Speaker 2: Or if he was sleeping with one eye shut. Speaker 1: Or if he had put his head behind the tree or whatever . And then, as the sun's coming down and it gets to about my eye level, I'm like, okay, I'm going to look one more time. I never heard a noise. I want you to know that I look around the tree. Nothing there. There's nothing there. No, no, no, no no no, no, never heard a noise. You know what I did. Speaker 2: What. Speaker 1: I started looking down at the tree below me. Make sure you wouldn't climb it up in my tree. Speaker 2: I'm like. Speaker 1: You know, anyway. So to make a long story short, that was the first incident that I had that I can remember, and then I go. Speaker 2: So wait, I have questions. So you're up in the tree? How many feet? Speaker 1: Oh, I'm probably. Speaker 2: You're up on one of those tree seat things. Speaker 1: No, no, we were poor. We didn't have tree stands. We climbed trees by hand. Speaker 2: Sorry, I didn't mean to bring it up. Speaker 1: So I climbed. No, I was probably 10 or 12 feet up in this tree, maybe. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: But it was on a ridge , and so the ridge was going downhill, and so it was down lower than the tree, than he was standing behind, and so I was pretty much looking eye to eye with this thing, probably 30 yards behind me, and so do you feel like he was standing, or do you feel like he was up in a tree as well? Speaker 2: I? Speaker 1: felt like he was standing because there was darkness below him. This only thing I could see was his eyes, and interesting like you could see the darkness of the tree. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And it was like unusually wide for the size of the tree that was above. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: You know, it just didn't make sense, it didn't fit Right, anyway. So I go through this day, of course I'm rattled, you know, I can't finish deer hunting and I go home and we go back to the camp and I tell everybody and of course they're all making fun of me, you know, and I go back home and probably a year maybe later, me and my buddy Billy, we were driving down back roads at night and he had an old Bronco. His daddy liked his dad liked to to. Uh well, we'll talk about it later. But we drive down this road and his dad's driving. I'm sitting in the back seat behind his dad, okay, and Billy is sitting in the front seat and they both got their windows down and we're driving down this dirt road Just hauling butt and the brown coat. Speaker 2: Is it day or is it night? It's at night. Okay, so it's at night. Speaker 1: And Bruce just stops. That's the dad. That's the driving. Yes, okay, the dad just stops, and maybe I shouldn't use names, huh, without their permission. I'm on the back road around. I'm in the back seat and so I've got my window down and I looked dead out the road because he had stopped because of deer. There was some deer in this little opening off to the left and I look out the window to the left and there is a bigfoot looking at the deer that bruce is looking at okay and I'm like uh, billy, and billy looks, and we both look at each other like what? And then we catch it. He just like just walks off. Speaker 2: The bigfoot. Speaker 1: Yeah, just walked off , and so that was the second encounter that I had had with one, and I think he was hunting those deer. Speaker 2: You do. Speaker 1: I do, and so there's lots of you. You know all sorts of videos about it and I know the natives believe that they're um spirits of the night, they can come and go through dimensions and they're they're a messenger spirit um, and that's what I know. I know that the cherokee nations, the osage nation, most of the seminoles, are the ones that are in the swamp area. They believe in the swamp creature and I know that they think that it's a sign of good tithing. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Of strength and encouragement, and so the whole scenario with Bigfoot is very controversial, indeed. Speaker 2: I mean, you have your believers, you have your non-believers, like anything else. Speaker 1: And I know that a lot of the native cultures believe that they dimension jump or you will see them when they let you see them. Speaker 2: Yeah, the natives are , wouldn't you agree? They're much more in tune with that meditative state that hooked into the intuition, yes, Energy. Speaker 1: Agreed. Totally agree with that statement. Speaker 2: yes, A lot of us that are tangled up in society are too distracted by the noise. Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 2: And so a lot of times we're not tapped into that. Speaker 1: Right. So these Bigfoot that travel around there was a TV show out. There's still many documentaries out there that you can watch on them, of course, and I think they're masters of disguise. When they are in this realm or in this dimension, they know how to make just you see them. Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, 100%. That's right, I think that I mean, if I were a big fit, it'd be really nice because I wouldn't have to shave yeah nonetheless, if I were a big fit it'd be. It would be kind of a fun game to play where I just let certain humans see me or throw rocks, or I mean I feel like I wonder, you know, is it when they do those kinds of things and they let us capture just enough evidence to keep us tagging along, yeah, but not enough, like hair or anything, to actually prove their existence? Right, is that part of the grand plan? Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think that their hair, when they dimension, jump. Everything that has anything to do with them goes with them. So, like them leaving hair or whatever. Speaker 2: Well, their footprints stay behind, though. Speaker 1: Oh, I behind though. Oh, I agree though. Speaker 2: So why would that? Why would that be? Speaker 1: That's a good question. Speaker 2: I mean, if you are easing a society into a concept of you existing, though you would want to leave some trace evidence behind so that they could digest it a little bit at a time. So popping in and then leaving no evidence behind, eventually it has to happen almost. I'm trying not to take us down a rabbit hole Can you tell me, take you down a rabbit hole, let's go. Speaker 1: I got a carrot sandwich. I always get choppy. I got a carrot sandwich. Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's my premise that we create our own reality, okay, and somebody somewhere along the way in the collective has come up with this entity that they want to experience, so they present it to the society. It is something of curiosity, it is something of interest and intrigue, and so those of us that want to play with it tap into that energy frequency of that reality and we ride the wave with them, and we do it because it's interesting to unlock the chain of events that occur. It's kind of like and like solving a mystery right step by step by step. If you play clue and you automatically already know that it was professor plum in the library with the candlestick, what's the point in playing the game? Speaker 1: right, no, I get. Speaker 2: I agree with you totally and so that's why, to me , there are so varying, varying degrees of believability. Right, you have some that absolutely will look at you like your cuck bird. You have some that are still questioning it because there are footprints, there are valid, concrete, see it, believe it, evidential things going on. And then there's some that are like down in the bottom of the believability pool, man, they're all in it. Speaker 1: Yeah, I think our human race has a tendency, you know, because there are some of that stuff out there that's been faked. I mean, there was a guy caught with a wooden handmade foot that he was doing and you know he was in, he was in oregon, he got caught doing it by one of the park rangers, and so it taints the pool of evidence. It does, and so it taints the pool of evidence. Speaker 2: It does. And what it does is it changes the vibrational frequency around that topic, if you think about it, from vibration. The Yeti, the Bigfoot, whatever that concept and that entity holds a certain kind of frequency, and only those that are able to tap into that frequency will be able to experience it, and so Well, that's kind of like mediumship. Until the whole collective is able to embrace the concept and tap into that frequency. It's not going to be one of your normal traditional lion, tiger, bear, zebra thing, yet it's going to stay what we call cryptid, which is that metaphysical entity that science can't wrap its head around yet. Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you know, I was watching that Bigfoot show the famous one that was on TV forever and there was this one guy that had been hunting elk Elk Been hunting elk and he was literally walking across the top of a snow-covered ridge, wide open, you know, there was like a bunch of trees, and then wide open to the peak of the crest. And he's watching this Bigfoot walk across the snow. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Like a mile and a half from him, two miles out in the wide open right and he follows this thing across the top of these ridges and follows the footsteps and he gets to the top of that same ridge where he originally saw him and the footprints just disappear. And he was, he was bewildered and of course the Bigfoot field researchers organization you know, they went. They went up and investigated it and and tried to figure out size and all that and what I found the part of that that I really was intrigued by was how they just disappeared on this guy's video. The footprints were there and then the footprints just stopped . There's no trees around. There's were there, and then the footprints just stopped. There's no trees around, there's nothing around. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And so it kind of proves to me the native belief on it. Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, the whole being able to dimension, jump and climb through portals and fade in and out, a hundred percent, yeah, totally. I mean, the other thing would be well, maybe it was still there making the footprints. It's just that this individual was only at a frequency where it could see the footprints and not the whole body maybe like it was walking in front of him and then just got sucked up by the vortex and said I'm out of here, yo, yo, I'm going out, beat me up, scotty. Mama rang the supper bell. I gots to go eat. Speaker 1: Oh, I got it. Mama told me I could. Speaker 2: Little Jimmy, it's time to come home. Speaker 1: I think one of the major things for me about that is not just Bigfoot. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: It's really about all the things that are out there that they say you know exist, that don't exist, and you have all these so-called experts that try to prove things wrong and you know, like the Loch Ness Monster. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: You know, I can just keep naming off a list of these things. What was the oh the woods one with the hunchback? Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the scary little Mothman, yeah, mothman. Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the other one? There's a whole bunch of these out there that these scientists Chupacabra. Speaker 2: The. Speaker 1: Chupacabra yeah. Speaker 2: That reminds me of a chalupa that you eat. That's always what comes to mind, I can't help it or snipe. Snipes. Speaker 1: Snipes, you know what's bad. Speaker 2: What. Speaker 1: Is there really is a bird called a snipe? I know. Speaker 2: You know, what's even worse Is that some generations after us probably don't even know what we're laughing about. Speaker 1: No, they don't. They probably don't Snipe hunting. Snipe hunting probably doesn't even exist, snipe hunting used to be a gag you would do with your friends. You'd take them out at night and give them a gunny sack and say, okay, you stand over here and you have to call theipe and we'll go round him up to you. And you'd walk away listening to your friend with his bag wide open, bent over, saying here, snipe, snipe, snipe, snipe, snipe. And then you walk away and leave him in the woods. Speaker 2: Or you come up behind him and scare the poop out of him. Speaker 1: And then you hear him saying guys, guys, guys, I don't know how to go home, guys, we would climb trees and just watch him panic. Speaker 2: That's so mean. Speaker 1: It got done to me. Speaker 2: That doesn't make it right, but anyway. Speaker 1: so all these things that you know Loch Ness Monster videos go back 50, 60, 70 years. Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look at the giant squid. Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the giant squid, yep. Speaker 2: That was encrypted for the longest time. Speaker 1: Yes, it was. Speaker 2: And then finally, we got energy vibrational change enough to where we could allow one to float to the top and catch it. Become into our reality, become verifiable, let it into our reality come into our reality, become verifiable. Speaker 1: Let it into our reality. You know, what I don't bite into is these scientists. You know that come up with these excuses and these explanations. You know, because they have found hair of the bigfoot and the is that anything like hair the dog? Well, I guess, if you want to have an orange juice and vodka the next morning. But you know, like I don't know what college or researcher or lab they sent it to, but the BFRO did find hair not identifiable and they sent it to a lab. I do I remember seeing that on something and they identified it as an ape, but it also had other things it didn't. It wasn't solely just the ape. It wasn't solely as an ape, but it also had other things it didn't. Speaker 2: Wasn't solely just the ape. Wasn't solely just the ape. It was mixed with other things. Speaker 1: And so there is proof out there of there's some kind of primate out there. Speaker 2: Huh Interesting. Speaker 1: But to be real, does this lab really even know what he's looking for? I? Speaker 2: mean, this is be real , yeah. Speaker 1: If you can't identify everything on it, then you can't identify any of it yeah instead of giving oh yeah. Well, the the root looks like a primate root, but the rest of the hair just don't match a primate right and so you know it . It's like a partial verification and I don't know if I believe these were. The bigfoot sit in the woods and they throw rocks and beat on the side of a tree, like I think they called it wood knocks , and then they they how. I mean I could see them howling , but why? Speaker 2: well, because, okay. So if bigfoot is a conscious entity, just like we are, and it has an obligation that it agreed to be, okay. So let me take you back Far, far away. Speaker 1: Do-do-do-do-do-do, do-do-do-do-do-do. What is that? I don't know. It's my going back sound. Speaker 2: Okay, back to the future. We are energy beings. Yes, the future, we are energy beings. Yes, we are, we're spiritual beings. Speaker 1: Yes, we are. Speaker 2: We decide what we want to experience when we come into our meat suits. Speaker 1: All right. Speaker 2: You make your play plan with all of your little group. Speaker 1: AKA script. Yeah, okay. So, if Wait a minute, what? Speaker 2: group, your soul group, okay. Your energy, spiritual soul group, okay. Your energy, spiritual soul group. Speaker 1: Okay, your group. Speaker 2: All right Of all your little characters and all that. Okay, you each take turns and if you wanted to come, say, to the reality and have an experience where you see Bigfoot , then you've asked someone to morph into that being Okay, and that gives you the opportunity to experience that human as a human. But, If all they did was just leave you footprints, that would be kind of a boring experience, right? You want depth and dimension within that experience. Speaker 1: We're humans. We like to touch, feel, taste, things. Speaker 2: Right, and so part of the arrangement is okay. At this point in my life, you're going to come in. I'm going to see your eyes. At this point in my life, I'm going to see you across the way in between the bushes. And then, when I get to be, you know, 30 years old, I want to have the wood knocking thing or whatever you called it. You would be bored if it stopped right there. Yeah right there, yeah, and so that's, that's what it is is. It's just giving you the depth of the experience, understood the people that go out and hunt them. They want depth, they want intrigue, they want the unknown, the curiosity, and so if bigfoot tosses a rock to hit a tree, that engages that sense. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: And a little more evidence and a little more evidence, so that it has the intrigue and the suspense and all of those good things. Speaker 1: The human fulfillment . Speaker 2: That create the fulfillment of the experience. Okay, that's why I agree. Speaker 1: That's why I agree with you. I agree with you. It's a it's almost got to be pre-life contractual agreement with your soul group absolutely. Speaker 2: This is all just an illusion that we are creating. Yeah, that's a whole nother podcast. Speaker 1: I'll stop there well, you can go down that rabbit hole if you want. Speaker 2: Well, you okay. I'm sitting here, I'm having a human experience, but you sitting here with me, I'm actually just sitting in an empty room. I have created you, I've created this experience. I have completely fabricated this whole thing in a virtual reality, almost kind of thing. Speaker 1: Can you create me a little younger please? Speaker 2: No, I want to experience you in your wise old age. Speaker 1: Oh, okay, can I have my wiseness in the body of an 18-year-old? Speaker 2: Absolutely not. I don't want to have to deal with that Okay, go ahead Sorry. And so it's all just an illusion? Okay, the reality is that I am creating my reality so that I can learn and evolve and grow. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: So if you do something in my reality that I've created, it's because I created it to where you would do that thing. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Are you stuck? Do I need to pull the string? Speaker 1: No, you're okay, You're okay. I'm just processing what you just said. But I mean, I know we've had this conversation before. It's 100%. We create our reality. But I mean, I know we've had this conversation before, it's 100% we create our reality. This is a you know, this lifetime and the next lifetime and the one last time was it's all scripted. You know it's all part of the greater plan. Speaker 2: It's part of the fun and the intrigue and the just, the curiosity and the fun, the fun of it. Speaker 1: I like it. It's kind of like the you know the ghost hunters. Speaker 2: So if I get mad at you for doing something, I need to be mad at myself, because I created you. Speaker 1: I'm going to say that to you next time. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: And you created, you wrote this script. This is your fault. Speaker 2: See if it works. Speaker 1: Yeah, I get a feeling it may backfire, but we'll see what happens. Speaker 2: I can just see Wiley Cowley blowing up and falling off the. We have to make our own sound effects because we're too poor to have the buttons programmed. Speaker 1: No, we have the buttons, I just haven't programmed them. Oh, I'm lazy. Speaker 2: But it's my fault because I created it wrote this script. Speaker 1: You need to write it into the script that I reprogrammed these buttons I'm gonna do that. Speaker 2: Okay, where's my alexa? Bring me my journal what's that ? Speaker 1: we have an alexa in here, you're right she'll be like I can't locate your journal , but anyway, so you know, on the bigfoot they're dimensionals . And now we have, on the other side of this kind of the same topic, in the same way, we have ghost hunters that are, you know they. They go out and they hunt ghosts all the time, and for spirits, and they have all this technical equipment that picks up, you know, voices and white noise. Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they're doing that with the Bigfoot now . Now they've got the big megaphone thing where they can hear. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: And they're logging and identifying the different noises and the responses that the Bigfoot gives back when they do this, when they do that. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: That's just learning and studying the behavior of the animal entity, whatever. We don't really know what to call it yet. Speaker 1: I mean I'm glad they started using those forward-looking infrareds. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Like there was a couple times on the show that we watched it, you could actually see the human-like figure in heat yeah, it's very, very interesting, and that one that had his head poked around the tree yeah, yeah, yeah, you could see his eye sockets yeah, I am always. Speaker 2: When we go driving somewhere, I'm always watching the trees to see if I can catch a glimpse. Speaker 1: I thought it would you. You just wanted to ignore me this whole time. No, it's a job I'm doing. Speaker 2: No, I'm on a constant cryptic investigation. I'm collecting data, sir. Speaker 1: Yeah, you're collecting some data, but the ghost hunters are doing the same thing that the Bigfoot researchers are. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And they're looking for interdimensional beings. And also we have the mediums that do the same thing. And so it's not too far-fetched to think about which mediumship has been proven in studies. And so it's not that far-fetched to think that some random redneck out in the middle of Oregon can see a Bigfoot, because he just has the gift to see the Bigfoot, just like the medium has the gift to talk to the spirits. Speaker 2: Right A hundred percent. Speaker 1: Or those people that channel the aliens and those kinds of things. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: You know it's Absolutely. So it all falls into that same realm of. When you're open enough and free enough in your energy, you'll be able to see these things, which is what the natives believe Absolutely of. When you're open enough and free enough in your energy, you'll be able to see these things, which is what the natives believe Absolutely. Speaker 2: It's getting those beliefs, patterns and programs out of the way, so that you can be open and not fearful of being able to see past the veil. Yeah, did you see my air quotes . Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. I see your air quotes. Speaker 2: The veil, a thinning of the veil so that you can see past that. But you have to come out of fear. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: You have to come out of the. I got to believe it. Speaker 1: Got to believe it. I got to see it to believe it. Speaker 2: You got to come out of all of that template. Come away from that part of the grid If you truly want to have that experience. Speaker 1: I agree, some people are just not there. You know the interdimensional beings when they show themselves it's like it shocks their human , but yet you know they were out there for some reason. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Like, oh my God, there he is. Why are you acting surprised? You're the one that you've created this reality to go look at him. And then they run the other direction because they get scared. But anyway. So the ghost hunters, the Bigfoot researchers, the Loch Ness Monster you said some more earlier those are all interdimensional beings. I believe earlier, those are all interdimensional beings. I believe you know a lot of our fairy tales and our nursery rhymes that have been sung to kids for thousands of years yeah are based off these kind of cryptid yeah, we watched a movie the other day at the uh cinema yeah can I say it yeah? you said red one, red one. Yeah. Speaker 2: It was a very, very cute film. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: And it took the whole Santa Claus thing in in that same kind of direction. Yeah, Of that individual or that entity existing, and how he came about being called Santa, and it put a very, very interesting twist on it for me. Speaker 1: I agree. Which I love when movies do that yeah, I didn't think about santa being the interdimensional for this podcast. I didn't get it because it's the same thing. Yeah, you know, could be mythological, could be fiction. Speaker 2: This could be an individual that can interdimensionally travel through the wormholes or that's so hard for me to say portal and wormholes, wormholes we're going through wormholes. The interdimensional travel. Speaker 1: Well, here's the reality of it all. It's our human, the human race. We have a tendency to pick up a book and read it and take it for the truth right and we have a very boxed in and very closed, or we go sit in front of somebody in a classroom and whatever they say is the law, is the rule. Yeah, and because we're assigned to be in a school and we're assigned to listen to this person. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And we take it for real. You know, like I used to always say, why is a pencil called a pencil, who named the pencil and how did they come up with the name pencil? Speaker 2: Mr Pencil. Speaker 1: How did that happen and where did the definition for that word come? From Mr Pencil and Mrs Lead I mean, how did we get the name october for the month of october or november for the month of november? Where did all these titles and labels and names come from? Speaker 2: yeah, I mean, it's a whole topic of research. You could spend your life. Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a pretty you know they, everything you read that it goes back to some kind of a Greek or Hebrew you know historical name, but still, where did those names come from ? You know, are we supposed to pick up this book and read it all and believe it, take it for truth just because it says trust by faith, not by sight? Speaker 2: I, because I think that, just like Bigfoot, the first person that ever saw this thing, what, what did they call it? Speaker 1: Right. Somebody called it Bigfoot the first person that ever saw this thing. What did they call it? Somebody called it Bigfoot. Yeah, because they have big feet, I guess I don't know, you know. Then you hear all these theories of evolution and the Big Bang Theory, and you hear all these theories out there and people have a tendency you know , it divides the human race into believing big foots are real, or big foots are not real, or it's fictitious, or it's interdimensional, or, you know, there's so many different opinions about all of this stuff because nobody takes the time to think through it themselves anymore I would would agree somewhat. Speaker 2: I would. Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me wrong, the collective has really grown. Speaker 2: The creativity and the ability to have an imagination is getting better, I agree. It's getting better, but it did decrease there for a while. But at the same time, if you come to a planet where you want the fastest growth and evolution that you can, the planet has to have diversity, yes, viewpoints , and so that you can. If you came to a planet where just everybody was the same and they agreed and it all was the same, you wouldn't have much room for expansion and growth especially if it was all. They were all just a plant full of people that agreed with you. Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be. I mean, I agree, that's what we need. Speaker 2: So it has to be that way. Speaker 1: It has to be. I agree with that, you know. But when we start limiting ourselves because of our belief in something that we've read or somebody told us, and then what really cloudies it all is when you have somebody that just listened to that person tell them something, not done it for themselves, not read it for themselves, not researched it. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Then they start preaching about it, and or they start believing or they start trying to expect everybody else to believe the way they believe, and that, just too, is this another limiting process within this same subject. Speaker 2: Yeah, I, I agree. I think that's where we get tripped up as a whole is expecting other people to buy into the things that we believe, instead of giving them room to have their own beliefs where he's walking away. Speaker 1: You know that was filmed in what? The 70s? Yeah, but there's thousands of years of historical writings about Bigfoot, yeah, and so that's not the first time Bigfoot's been coming around, right? That's just the first time that he's been caught on video. Speaker 2: That's the first time the paparazzi's gotten him yeah , and now he won his autograph. Speaker 1: Yeah, and his security team obviously went with him that day. His autograph. Speaker 2: Yeah, and his, you know, his security team obviously wasn't with him that day keeping the commercial. Speaker 1: His name is doug, but you know it's. It's about thinking in a different way. I think this is what our podcast is more about than anything is trying to show people to think in a different way yeah and fulfill every curiosity within you with its out like heart. Right and whether you believe that whether you believe there's a Bigfoot or not, whether you believe there is ghosts or not, or if there's spirits or not, or if there's mediums out there that can really talk to the dead . How do you know? In this, you research it. Speaker 2: Right. Speaker 1: In this. You go out and you do the research. You don't. Speaker 2: You're reading somebody else's research which is a good segue into this little reminder, when we are teaching how to walk the spiritual path in a human society, also known as the spiritual grind, because sometimes it does it feels like you're grinding it out. Man, it does trying to figure out, remembering that anything anybody tells you is only a suggestion to try it right and go try it or research it, or study it for yourself and check in intuitively and see if it fits and, and if it fits, then do it. If it doesn't fit, then let it go and move on and try something different. Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's the conversation I had with a person that is around us here last week, and the conversation was this is oh, that stuff don't work. I'm like, well, how do you know it don't work? I mean, come on, how can it be real? I mean, what makes you think it's not real? Well, I read this book. I went to this school. I am much more intelligent than that. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: Okay, because you read a book that somebody else wrote, including the world famous book the Bible. If you look at it, it's got a published date and it's published by a date. And who makes it? You know those books are all published and written by somebody, edited. And if you fall for everything in every one of these books and you truly believe it, you are limiting your own self. Speaker 2: Yes, I agree. Speaker 1: And it's not a healthy way to expand and get bigger and get better at what we are. Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it definitely can trip you up when you're trying to expand and grow . Speaker 1: I mean, let's just think about it like this If you follow the theory of evolution, that first little primate boy, that was a gung-ho fella. Speaker 2: He was so cute though . Speaker 1: But it was a gung-ho fella because he created, with an open mind, the next level. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And so I mean they just didn't randomly start evolving. Something had to prompt the evolution, if you follow that theory. Speaker 2: Right. Speaker 1: If you follow the Big Bang Theory, you have to believe there's something out there greater than us. Speaker 2: Yep. Speaker 1: You have to. Speaker 2: That's right. Speaker 1: If you follow God created everything, then you are believing that there's something greater than us. That's right Interdimensionally . If you pray every day, you're believing that you are interdimensionally speaking to something greater than us. That's right, and what is the difference between God and Bigfoot? Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's craziness if you really think about it, Things that make you say hmm. Speaker 1: And so what is the difference between? You know the Loch Ness Monster, I mean the difference between God and Bigfoot. Speaker 2: According to the pictures of God are. Speaker 1: A whole lot of hair, a lot less hair, about three feet, about three feet a night, and a lot bigger feet. I don't know. I've never seen a picture of God's feet. I don't know, I've never seen a picture of. Speaker 2: God's feet. I've only seen something drawn by a human. Speaker 1: And so because, if you read the Bible, what does it say? What it looks like, what God looks like. It doesn't. Speaker 2: I don't know, that's your expertise. It just says God was. Speaker 1: you know, men were created in God's likeness, and so, because we know what we look like, they assume that's what he looks like. Speaker 2: But what if he didn't mean in God's visual likeness? What if they meant in the likeness of love or energy or something different? Speaker 1: Yep, or it could have been hey, I like that look. Or just hey, I like this walking on two legs. Speaker 2: Yep, or it could have been hey, I like that look. Or just hey, I like this walking on two legs and not four . Speaker 1: And my knuckles hurt. So can I please stand up on. Can I be? Can I please be bipedal? Speaker 2: It's really hard to find four shoes that look exactly the same. Speaker 1: Can I please be bipedal In four different sizes? I guess it would be two different sizes. Speaker 2: I can't get my knuckles to fit into an eight and a half, so I have to buy a nine. Speaker 1: But really it's just about don't limit yourself. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And don't limit anything. Be childlike, allow yourself to not believe everything you see on the news, everything you read in the book yeah, if there's something that intrigued you study it for yourself. You never know. Speaker 2: That's right. Speaker 1: You don't really know , because you believe what somebody else research. Come on, yeah, if, if we, if this entire country believed what everybody else wrote, we would not expand or evolve at all. Speaker 2: That's right. Speaker 1: There would be no medical expansion, there would be no medical growth, there would be no spiritual growth. Because you're not believing, you're just staying with the same trend, over and over and over. Speaker 2: Right yeah, there's got to be those blaze runners that. Speaker 1: Trailblazers. You mean, oh yeah. Speaker 2: That make you go? Hmm, asked the questions right myself. Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's what metaphysicians do yeah, I mean you know, you're a metaphysician. We have, you know, those. I would say any of us in the spiritual world are metaphysicians in some way or form, of course, even the, the ghost hunters, the, the mediums, the tarot readers, the palm readers. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: You know, they're all metaphysicians that. Speaker 2: We give light to any and all possibilities 100% correct. And then the scientists go and collect the data to prove or disprove it. Speaker 1: Right In 1952, UFOs were fake 195 we have a space force, yeah, so if we did not, if metaphysicians did not push for ufos to be looked at and the people you know, if that vibration didn't change, ufos would have not been seen by the military, would have not been seen by those people of influence. Yeah, I mean we have three former presidents that have made public statements that they have seen UFOs. Speaker 2: I can't wait till the president says I've seen a Yeti . Speaker 1: Right, you know that would be kind of cool. Well, didn't Nixon instill the no-kill Sasquatch rule or something? Oh no, I don't know. Somebody. One of the presidents wrote that law where you can't kill. It's a federal law. You can't kill a Sasquatch. Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know anything about it. Speaker 1: Really, yeah, for real. That's for you to look it up. Speaker 2: Hmm, that's very curious. Speaker 1: There's rules and laws against it. Speaker 2: I mean I'm not sure how you would kill them anyway. Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, unless you get an interdimensional bullet, I don't think you're gonna kill one. If you're lucky, you walk up to him and hold his hand and be his friend and he'll walk back with you because that's really you know in all all kind of side . That's really you know in all. All can decide. That's what we do, and that's what metaphysicians do. We push scientists to to keep improving. Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean we , we give them something to chew on. Speaker 1: Yeah Well, you make them think with the possibilities. Speaker 2: We give them something to chew on. Speaker 1: We covered the the energy thing here on a podcast, not thing here on a podcast not very long ago, yeah, that they didn't exist. It didn't. Humans don't have the energetic field full crap. Guess what we do. Speaker 2: It's proof, scientifically proven now yeah, they even gave it a name yeah, they mean the biofield, yeah biofield oh, here you are scrub your biofield today. It. Speaker 1: It's what for dinner Anyway. So I guess what I was trying to get at today with this Bigfoot thing is just to kind of bring a different thought process into reality. Indigenous people, you know, have been open vibrationally to those things for many, many, many years. Speaker 2: Oh yeah, A hundred percent. Speaker 1: Not just Bigfoot, but all of it mean there's some, even some, of the african. You know, the crazy part about it is is the similarities between all of them. Yeah, I mean, they didn't have telephones. They didn't. You know, the leader of one tribe didn't call the other and say, hey, you know what? I think, I'm going to believe this today, and they'll be. And he's the other chief, the other chief's like oh okay, yeah , let's do let's do that. Yeah, let's do that. Speaker 2: Let's all meet together. Speaker 1: Right, it's like all the temples that are created the same way around the world. We didn't have telephones, we didn't have internet, we didn't have any of that stuff. So how did all that get communicated? Speaker 2: And so similar, and so similar yeah. Speaker 1: A different thought process and a different way of thinking that really causes change and expansion and growth and brings us into a human world with greater experiences. Absolutely and that is our job as metaphysicians, podcasters, social network influencers, whoever you are out there, don't limit anything for people. Give them what they want, and that is expansion and growth 100%. Anyway. So what do you think? Did we do good on cryptozoology ? Speaker 2: Cryptozoology. Speaker 1: That's what you are. You have a cryptozoologist that's right on the wall over there somewhere. It is. Speaker 2: And one of your 19 million. Speaker 1: Cryptozoologist. See, Dr Jenny is the most educated person I've ever met. We literally have stacks of certifications, degrees, diplomas. It's what I do for fun, I'm a nerd. Yeah, what are you doing this week? Well, I'm bored, so I'm going to take my master's Physics. Speaker 2: I'm going to go get a doctorate. I've been looking into physics, quantum physics. Speaker 1: So it's like most people say, oh, I'm going to take a nap and watch a movie. Nope, she reads and signs up for another class somewhere. Speaker 2: Let's see how fast I can get my PhD in physics. Speaker 1: But anyway, well, we appreciate everybody listening Indeed, expanding your mind, opening up your thoughts and allowing our words to come into your reality. Really do appreciate it actually. Speaker 2: We do. We appreciate every one of you. Speaker 1: We love honor, respect and guess what? I believe in Bigfoot. Speaker 2: I believe in the foot . Speaker 1: I believe in the great Bigfoot. Anyway, we love y'all. Don't forget to like, follow and share. Speaker 2: Ring that bell Ring. Speaker 1: The bell Ring ring ring ring. Speaker 2: Love you. Speaker 1: Love. You have an awesome day. 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