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SPEAKER_05: Good morning,
everybody.
Welcome back to the Spiritual
Grind.
SPEAKER_00: Good morning.
SPEAKER_05: We are back in
studio after a catastrophic
event.
SPEAKER_00: To say the least.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I know it's
hard to believe.
SPEAKER_00: It's been a
whirlwind.
SPEAKER_05: It has.
Just so you guys know, you'll
probably hear it one day.
I don't know, but uh I did have
a stroke.
Actually two.
SPEAKER_00: Actually, two, yeah.
That's what we've been doing for
the last week.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we ended up in
the hospital.
Well, I started having weird
confusion episodes on Wednesday
last week, and then uh Sunday
about one o'clock in the
morning, I woke up with a
blasting headache, and next
thing you know, we're in the
hospital, and I've got all this
metallic stuff being shoved in
my veins and going through all
sorts of things, and so I'm I'm
doing some recovery and I'm
actually doing quite well.
I actually think that Jenny
saved my life and and stopped
it.
We got it stopped quick enough.
And uh so I I do have a little
bit of slow processing going on,
but it has been uh it's been a a
little bit of a journey and my
my mind gets tired quickly.
But yeah.
Anyway, hey, you know what?
Once I get this all done, I'm
gonna write a book because there
are things that I have
discovered now with the new
processes in my brain of that
could help people go down the
road, and I think I'll I will
I'll write a book about it for
sure.
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
SPEAKER_05: Because you know,
like for example, I had for many
years, this is a good a good
thing to really recognize is I
had this spot in the back of my
head that I I had no feeling in
my scalp.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And and then after
the stroke I can now feel it all
again.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_05: And so that tells me
that there was some kind of
blockage going on there for
years.
SPEAKER_00: And so you think
it's uh physical or energetic or
uh well, Jerry's still out on
that.
SPEAKER_05: Don't know yet.
No, don't know yet.
It's uh uh definitely uh it was
a wide opening for me because
then on top of that we heard
that all of my blood work is
good.
Um except for my cholesterol was
a little bit elevated.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And everything that
was up was because what they
did.
They the it it purposely raised
my numbers on some of my labs on
purpose.
And so it's been kind of crazy.
It's like a roller coaster ride.
Don't really understand.
Um, don't really care to know.
I just know that uh that I will
not ever allow myself to lay
down and lick my wounds.
SPEAKER_00: And so Yeah, you've
never really been that person,
though.
SPEAKER_05: I'm not a quitter.
SPEAKER_00: You just are always
a go-getter, and you get up and
dust yourself off and begin
again.
SPEAKER_05: And it it kind of
brings me to a couple things.
First of all, I love my wife,
and you are the most amazing
person in the world.
SPEAKER_00: I love you.
SPEAKER_05: You have saved you
saved my life.
And you know that what it does
though, uh, actually having a
stroke?
It makes me emotional.
So I may cry on on demand, who
knows?
But we'll see.
See what happens.
SPEAKER_00: That might come in
handy if you ever became an
actor.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know,
yeah.
We are gonna be shooting some
commercials here soon for the
app.
Right, yeah.
Um but anyway, thank you very
much for what you've done for me
and and for being my definite my
foundation, my stable during all
this, because yeah, I am back.
SPEAKER_00: Yes, you are, and
and the milestones that you're
achieving in just uh couple of
short days.
Oh yeah.
Uh we just got out of that.
So today is Friday.
SPEAKER_05: We went home
Wednesday night.
SPEAKER_00: We just got out of
the hospital on Tuesday night
late.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: At about what, 7,
7:30?
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
I lay down at 9.08.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, to go to bed.
And so Wednesday and Thursday
were your first two days home.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know, it
was kind of crazy, you know,
some some and so we're still
very early on.
SPEAKER_00: And I mean, to me,
the strides that you're already
making as far as normalcy are
huge.
Yeah.
You know, like that first day
where we went out and we had to
go pick up your prescriptions,
yeah, which was the very next
morning, you wanted to I have to
drive for a little bit.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they took my
driving away until Monday.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it makes him
crazy.
SPEAKER_05: I can blame that on
the stroke.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_05: But anyway.
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, he doesn't
like uh he doesn't like me
driving.
No.
Um I don't drive bad to set the
record straight.
But I just don't drive like some
Hall Benton.
SPEAKER_05: Because it depends
on how you define that, really.
SPEAKER_00: I probably drive
more like conservatively for
sure.
I follow the rules.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
Anyway, so I guess I navigated
her all day.
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
You wanted to navigate me from
place to place and did uh
amazingly at it.
Didn't miss a beat.
And the brain, the areas of your
brain that you had to utilize at
the same time to do that is uh
is very remarkable.
SPEAKER_05: I 100% believe that
it's going to completely clear
off out of my brain.
Yeah.
I just I don't know.
I just have that feeling.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Um and I think it's
gonna be an amazing recovery.
SPEAKER_00: Would you say that
one of the helpful things is
your mindset?
SPEAKER_05: Definitely.
Yeah.
Um, you know, staying positive.
Yeah, you know, because it it
was a catastrophic event.
And you know, I remember the
feeling of it when we were
sitting on the couch and and uh
I I couldn't make sense of
anything.
Yeah, it was like I couldn't I
was completely confused.
Yeah, I was there, I was
present, I could hear you, I
could hear me, but nothing I I
was trying to say or heard made
any sense whatsoever.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: It was like like uh
I mean I even tried to answer a
text message.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And I I was like, I
can't even read this, I have no
clue what it says.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: But it was uh
definitely a little bit of a uh
crazy journey.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I think uh
the part I wanna share is we're
human too, and so don't get us
wrong, we went through our
phases of being um mad about it,
pissed off about it.
You know, this is not fair,
emotional fear.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Um, but I think some
of the things we do differently
than what uh some folks do.
We allow ourselves to express
those emotions.
Yeah.
And so when the tears come, we
allow them to come.
When the fear comes, we allow it
to come and we talk through it.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, totally.
SPEAKER_00: And when the anger
comes and the this is fucking
not fair.
Why is this fucking happening?
SPEAKER_05: I wanted to punch
somebody.
SPEAKER_00: We talk through it
and we allow that emotion to
come in because holding it back
and stuffing it in some box just
means it's gonna come up again
and deal with it.
If you just go ahead and allow
it presence.
SPEAKER_05: You know, I think
the the biggest part of it for
both of us was there was zero
they have no explanation.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Like there's nothing
that says my I mean, my
cholesterol was high, but
nothing to a point of a stroke.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_05: Um, you know,
although my blood pressure, my
blood pressure was high, yeah,
but not exorbitantly high.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_05: Like if I would have
gone to the hospital prior to
the stroke, they would have just
sent me home.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and the
listeners know that for a few
weeks, we prior to that, we'd
been working with your blood
pressure.
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, within
that, there was a couple of
spikes.
But for overall, they that was
at the very beginning.
Yeah.
They actually are keeping it
high right now, a little high.
I say high.
It's running in the 140s over
90s.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, when yeah,
they she told me when she's
trying to keep it 150 over 80.
Yeah, and she wants it to be a
little higher.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's running
around there.
SPEAKER_05: She doesn't want the
diastolic number very high, but
she does want it, you know, in
the 80 to 85.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's that
was and the reality is that we
achieved pretty close to those
numbers uh weeks prior to that,
yeah.
Yeah on uh on a on a pretty
regular basis with what I was
doing herbally at home.
And so I don't know that they
would have been able to even
pre-determine if we in other
words, if we'd gone to urgent
care with your blood pressure or
gone to the ER with your blood
pressure, yeah, I don't know
that they would have even really
acknowledged it or done
anything.
So that's the hardest part, I
think, for you and I.
SPEAKER_05: No, it was hard.
SPEAKER_00: There was no it's it
feels very sudden and it feels
very blindsided.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it was
definitely hard.
SPEAKER_00: There was no
definite.
I mean, I have 24 years of
medical training, and for me,
what I battle with is did I do
enough soon enough?
And so I I I battle with that
because in this journey, you
know, I'm doing my stroke
checks, I'm doing my
neurovascular checks, and there
was no traditional textbook even
the doctors at the hospital,
they did the stroke test, and
and they're like, Oh my god,
you're strong.
That's right.
You're right.
He did.
SPEAKER_05: They did it multiple
times, multiple people did it.
Like everybody's like, I don't I
don't understand.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
Yeah.
I mean, it literally took them.
They they do a CAT scan when you
first go in, obviously.
But um, even from the CAT scan,
they weren't ready to make it a
final decision of, oh yep,
that's a stroke period, the end
of sentence, let's move on.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, at first they
thought it may have been a brain
infection or something.
SPEAKER_00: Or a tumor.
Or a tumor, lesion, you know,
whatever.
So they ended up making you do
an MRI so they could get better
imaging because they didn't even
know really what it was at
first.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Uh so I mean, I am
not surprised that we were
blindsided, but I think that's
the hardest part.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it is.
But you know, here's the cool
part about all of this.
SPEAKER_00: Do too.
SPEAKER_05: The the best part of
this is uh we I get the
opportunity to teach people
about how you empower yourself.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Um and then not
allow yourself to be um d
defeated.
You know, being defeated is not
the way to be.
Yeah, you heard that.
We all heard it.
Somebody forgot to quiet her and
she didn't have a stroke, I did.
SPEAKER_00: I did.
I forgot to quiet my phone
again.
More money in the jar.
SPEAKER_05: The the biggest part
of it is is understanding that
you know, your recovery from
this from anybody, when you're
recovering from any kind of
catastrophic event, it's all
about your mindset.
And yeah, like like a lot of
people, like you said yesterday,
a lot of people just lay down
and lick their wounds.
We've I've seen it people do
that.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_05: They just you know,
they're just like you just give
up.
They don't oh my god, that's the
end of the world.
And you're gonna find out, you
know what's really cool is I'm
gonna get whole new brain stuff.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: You know, like my my
vision is so clear.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: You know, there's
lots of things that that your
body rew your brine re brain
rewires.
Yeah.
And it it can be it's so it's so
cool, really.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is.
It you know, like I like we
talked about the other day,
people can either go into a
mental state of uh victimhood
and depression, yeah, which is
quite normal to do, but if you
hang out there, you really do
interfere with the prognosis and
the progressive healing.
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
SPEAKER_00: If you can get
yourself past that and say,
Okay, yeah, this happened, yeah,
and the best place I can be is
start to find the positives.
SPEAKER_05: Well, when I was at
the hospital, when I was in the
hospital, though, I was they
weren't even giving me an answer
yet, but I still was like I was
wanting to move and walk around,
go outside, do something.
I just wanted to be moving.
Yeah.
Because you know, that positive
mindset, uh, if you allow that
to trigger into you, yeah, it
just the chemical the chemicals
that your brain produce, it it's
a hundred percent healing.
I mean, it will heal and you
have to allow it to be there.
And anything that you do in
life, if you you know, if you
get your butt kicked, I've had
my butt kicked a bunch of times
in my life.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: You know, I mean,
all the way from when I was when
I went to prison to when I when
I won uh when I was worth a
million dollars, millions of
dollars, and then when I went
broke.
I've been there and every but
every time it's about mindset.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And when you can
defeat that negative thought
process within your own mind,
because you are the one I'm the
one empowering this.
I I am the one empowering this.
And if you can think you know,
uh think properly and have
positive mindset, it it changes
everything.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Your positive
mindset and what I've taught
this class for many, many, many
years about positive mindset,
and now I'm living it again.
Again.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And and I will
continue to teach it because
positive mindset will change
your life.
SPEAKER_00: It does, for sure.
And anyway, so if you can just
get to that point of yeah, I may
be in a shitty spot and it feels
like shit, but if you can just
give yourself one glimpse a day
of finding that positive outlook
and that positive vibration and
make that the habit.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_00: Then it's a game
changer, man.
It just really is.
SPEAKER_05: I mean, because
don't get me wrong.
I mean, I get freaking
headaches, man.
Some of these headaches are
brutal.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: You know, you get
like cramps and you get shit
that's where from all the
medicine they're giving you and
all this other crap.
And it and it can it can take a
uh uh a turmoil on you.
Um and and y'all bear with me
because I'm still working on
some words.
But you know, it can be very
tormenting to think about it
like golly, when does this get
normal?
And but you just gotta keep
posting.
Like this morning when I got up,
I actually for the first time
didn't feel floaty.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Like as it's a part
of a stroke is you feel floaty,
like you're dis uh detached from
your body, kinda.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And today I'm feel
pretty grounded.
SPEAKER_00: Good.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and uh it's
it's been a pretty uh good
journey so far.
SPEAKER_00: I think the other
thing um with the stroke
example, you know, when you go
and you have like abdominal
surgery, for example, you can or
an abdominal injury or even uh,
you know, a physical injury to
the external part of the body,
you can look at that wound,
yeah, and your mind justifies
that, okay, you know what?
I feel a little off or I feel
like shit or I feel junky
because of this wound and I'm
healing.
SPEAKER_05: Um one of our
coaches is going through the
exact same thing right now.
SPEAKER_00: Well, you give
yourself permission to be
slower, yes, to need more rest,
to take it easy.
SPEAKER_05: That's tough for me.
SPEAKER_00: It's tough for you,
anyways, but when you don't have
that external um, you know, like
surgical incision or that
external wound to remind you
that it's okay to take rest
periods and it's inside your
brain, for example, in your
case, it sometimes is hard to
conceptualize that, you know
what, my brain went through a
traumatic event and it in two
places, yeah.
Yeah, and it has an actual wound
in two different places.
SPEAKER_05: And they're
purposely keeping my blood
pressure high and it stinking
hurts.
SPEAKER_00: And I'm going
through a healing process, and
so when I feel like I need to
rest or even lay down and take a
nap, because I've accomplished a
couple of tasks and I feel
exhausted.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it does, it is
that is one of the things for me
that's really defeating a little
bit that I have to stay positive
about is that is I don't like
quitting.
I and so I want to keep going, I
want to keep going, I want to
keep going, but sometimes it's
just man, like the other day we
lay down at two o'clock and I
didn't get up until six o'clock
the next morning.
Right, and it was okay, you
know, because I had to, but it
is what it is, you know.
SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah.
Because you've always been that
just push through.
Yeah, I've always been that
still freaking ragged, just push
through.
I mean, I've seen you get up
with uh bronchitis and get up
high fever, I've done all sorts
of stuff.
Go to freaking work and I cannot
talk you off the ledge, man.
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
SPEAKER_00: And uh so what I see
is is that you're listening more
to your body and honoring what
it needs and taking those
results.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the
perseverance behind it is is uh
different.
You know, you have to do it
differently now because like my
mind is there.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Um there are it's
all there.
It just like it processes a
little bit slower right now.
Yeah.
And I'm doing it and on purpose,
you know, according to the other
doctors are they're doing things
on purpose.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Because they want me
to have good solid blood flow in
my brain.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And when I try to
process things and get going too
fast and I get too tired, then
it slows that stuff down.
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
Yeah.
And so you're you're honoring
where your body is.
Yes.
And that makes me feel better,
obviously.
SPEAKER_05: I'm trying, I'm
doing my best.
It's and because it is tough,
it's hard for me to stop.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're
definitely not a sit still, no,
oh my god, guys, listen, when we
were in the hospital for that
few days, there was no windows
to the outside.
It was in a it was in a unit
type thing, and they wouldn't
let him off the unit, and it was
a smaller unit.
I was like, Well, we can walk
the halls, and it literally was
like this little bitty tiny
horseshoe shape.
And he was like, I just need I
need to get out of here.
And I was like, They're not
gonna let you off the unit.
They wouldn't I just want to go
look outside, look out the
window.
I'm sorry, it's just not gonna
happen right now.
Well, they can't tell me what I
can do.
I'm like, okay, listen.
SPEAKER_05: And then I I went to
the doors and I could see out
the doors when I you were
asleep.
And I walked out and I was
walking around the thing, and
then I went looked out the door,
and then the window that's there
is covered because they're doing
construction.
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
SPEAKER_05: I was like, son of a
Yeah.
Couldn't see nothing.
SPEAKER_00: So there were
aggravating moments, especially
for you, because you're just a
you're you're a go-getter.
I was a case.
And you don't you don't sit
still well, but you're doing
very well.
You're honoring your body and
doing my best.
Like on our first day home, you
were like, Wow, it took it out
of me to go to the store, get
prescriptions.
We had to pick up a few things
at the grocery store.
SPEAKER_05: And then I was done.
SPEAKER_00: And then you were
just kind of done.
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
SPEAKER_00: And I think for a
minute it was like, Wow, am I
gonna you had made the
statement.
Am I ever gonna be normal again?
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, you but you
had the monkey mind.
You know, that monkey mind can
come from nowhere.
SPEAKER_00: But you just take it
moment at a time.
Yeah.
And day by day it gets better
and better.
SPEAKER_05: And it's no matter
what it is, if it's a stroke, if
it's a car accident, if it's a
divorce, if it's whatever it is,
you know, it's about it's about
keeping staying positive and uh
understanding that your p
empowerment, uh your
self-empowerment to stay
positive in your mindset is the
will change the way any recovery
happens.
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
Yeah, it's a hundred percent
mindset.
Yeah.
And that's why we are can we
continue on a regular basis to
try and teach and get the word
out of the you know the the
power of the mind and doing the
positive mindset workshops that
we do and once once I get
completely healed, I'll I'll put
on another clinic and I will
definitely teach people because
your your decision to make the
right thing today or the right
your decision to make the right
decision today that's positive
mindset, no matter what it's
about, it will change your
outcome on anything that you do.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah and and I'm I'm
sitting here preaching it right
now because I will not lay down
and lick my wounds.
Yeah, I won't do it.
Yeah, I mean you're I mean what
what what's the purpose of it?
SPEAKER_00: You're rocking
walking the road, man.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and I'll I'll
uh continue to teach people and
and help every chance I get.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_05: For sure.
So that's kind of where my
mindset is today with is
understanding the positive
thought and how powerful it is.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: You know, I used to
I I used to say one thing, and
the only thing today that can
come empower you stronger for
tomorrow is your mindset today.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And when when you
get to the point that you
understand that how the the
energy frequency of positive
power in your mindset and the
difference between saying I'll
be okay or an I am okay is way
different.
Yeah.
And like, you know, like even at
the hospital, I told the the
doctor, I I don't care.
Because I am okay.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: I will be just fine.
SPEAKER_00: I don't care what
you say, I'm okay.
That's right.
I'm I'm okay.
I'm better.
SPEAKER_05: Slow down.
You need to do this, you need to
do that.
You're right, I will, but I'm
gonna do it three times faster
than anybody else.
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
SPEAKER_05: This is because of
how that's how I am.
SPEAKER_00: Do you find that
your perspective on trivial
things or minor things and
worrying about them has changed
at all?
SPEAKER_05: Totally.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it changed my
Do you find that some things
that you were seeing as high
importance have lowered on the
priority list of things to like
be concerned about?
Oh wait.
SPEAKER_05: Does that change
any?
I wouldn't say that it changed a
lot of things.
What what it did was is it
pre-re-prioritized things.
Right.
You know, like the more
important things is uh are are
you, you know, and me.
That's the most important thing.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And everything else
is really, you know, is it now
gets pre-reprioritized down here
somewhere else.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And that's okay.
Because it used to be I was just
go-getter, I was doing
everything.
I was everything was being
completed to 100%.
SPEAKER_00: Oh, mo most of the
time.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And and all it does
is cause uh a diminished mental
state when you when you put that
much weight in your own plate
and or you do that much to
yourself that you have to really
accomplish all of this stuff.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_05: And why?
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Because I mean,
don't get me wrong, we're gonna
accomplish all of our goals in
life forever.
Right.
But I don't have to do it all at
the same time now.
Yeah, right.
It reprioritizes things, that's
for sure.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: But anyway.
SPEAKER_00: Very good.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and I I I feel
pretty complete.
unknown: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, our biggest
thing was, you know, because we
haven't done a podcast in two
weeks.
About two weeks now, just
because of the journey we've
been on.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And I said, we need
to probably get back on the
horse this morning and start
normalizing life.
And so we decided we would get
on and we're gonna put this one
up and we're gonna publish it.
SPEAKER_05: We're gonna put it
out so people can hear it.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Um it's not
something that I'm embarrassed
by anything.
Yeah, if you're because I am I
promise you, if you were to walk
up to me in the street, you
would have no idea that I had a
stroke a week ago.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but just so
that everybody knows, there you
did kind of go through that a
little bit.
The first uh the first kind of
um I guess outing and the first
meeting we had to do coming up.
SPEAKER_05: Oh my gosh, that was
the very first day home.
SPEAKER_00: You were nervous.
SPEAKER_05: We had to do an app
meeting, and I was you know, I
was processing shit slow.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: In my mind, I was
doing it slow, but to them it
was like normal.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
And that's what I was trying to
help you um kind of understand
is that I'm the outsider looking
in, and I would never even know
at this point, or even on that
day, the day after you got home
from the hospital.
You you can't it's not something
you can pick up on unless you
went through the journey with
you and you know it.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: But you were worried
that they would know, and that
was kind of a little
nerve-wracking, right?
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's still
it's still creates a little
anxiety.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Um, that I'm gonna
say the wrong thing, or because
I technically right now I have a
a uh card that's in my wallet
that says I can say stupid shit.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_05: And get away with it
if I want to.
And have an excuse.
And have an excuse card.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we talked
about that yesterday on our
little walk.
You said I have a card basically
that lets me be uh Yeah, like
the idiot.
SPEAKER_05: Oh my god.
We're we're at a walk yesterday
evening.
Yeah, and we're we're it was my
first really walk back as we
came home.
We did the walk, but it was like
a little small one because I had
headache.
And we meet this guy, and he's I
was like, I was like, How you
doing today?
You know, just in passing.
And he starts complaining about
having a bruised ankle.
SPEAKER_04: Right.
SPEAKER_05: And Jenny said,
Yeah, he had two fucking strokes
two days ago.
So it's like, you know, it was
kind of like I didn't say it to
him.
SPEAKER_00: No, it was something
you and I said when we laughed
about it.
Because if you can't laugh about
stuff, man, and I have a
permission card.
SPEAKER_05: I could have said
something really shitty.
SPEAKER_00: You could have, you
for sure could have, because
then I followed that up with,
yeah, I have a fucking pacemaker
and he had two strokes two days
ago or a day ago.
Uh, you know, cry me a fucking
river.
SPEAKER_05: Crammy a river, by
the way.
SPEAKER_00: What I said, and
then we laughed about it.
But uh, you know, that's just
our way.
We try to find jokes and fun and
ways to maneuver the the
situation.
SPEAKER_05: But you know it is
what it is, and and uh I'm I'm
happy for for where I am.
Yeah, I'm happy for what is what
is changing in my life.
SPEAKER_00: Gosh, yeah.
You know what?
SPEAKER_05: I am so proud of you
because finding a proud moment
in all of this, you know, for me
is accepting the fact that hey,
you know what?
I get to learn some new shit.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And I get to, you
know, I get to experience a part
of my body that a lot of people
never have the opportunity to
understand.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: I get to I get to
train brand new brain cells to
do things.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And it's it's really
kind of cool, actually.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Because I have been,
you know, I've been going
through all these little brain
games from on the phone and
stuff from after stokes in a
stroke, and I've I've I've I've
already like scored 99% of all
of these things.
SPEAKER_00: Well, and that's one
of the things you did right
away, uh, was you downloaded a
stroke app and got going
immediately on your mind work.
SPEAKER_05: Right.
And I was I'm I'm already up to
210 words a minute on the
reading, which is more than 90th
percentile of most people's
reading.
SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah, because
in the hospital when you
downloaded the app it's 130, I
could all I could do.
SPEAKER_05: I found and I I
failed like four times in a row.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you struggled
with the 130.
SPEAKER_05: And I'm at 210 this
morning.
SPEAKER_00: And I remember you
saying, Am I ever gonna be
normal?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And now you're
you're yeah, I'm impatient.
It's been like four days,
whatever.
SPEAKER_00: It well, no, because
this is Friday.
Yeah.
You just got discharged on
Tuesday.
Tuesday.
This is the third day, the
morning of the third day.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: I think uh, you
know, I I have to remind him
guys often of how many days it's
been.
Because it's uh there's times
where it feels like it's been
forever.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And then there's
times where it's like, you know,
this just happened two days ago.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Take give yourself a
break.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you're right.
SPEAKER_00: And as the
co-partner in it, um, I know one
of the things that I have to
work with is not being uh mother
hen.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
It's okay.
You're I'm giving you the
opportunity.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it reminds me
of raising the kids.
You know, I didn't uh I I let
them explore and do, and if they
got it right, yay, great.
If they didn't, we reevaluated
and they got to pick a different
way to try it.
If we made a mess, we cleaned
the mess up.
Yeah, and I really had to stop
myself and say, Okay, you know
what?
We gotta do it this way because
he needs it and because I need
it.
Yeah.
And um, so I did.
I had to stop myself because I
went through uh my trauma in it
as the as the co-partner, yeah,
was uh I went through some fear.
Oh yeah, we both did.
Oh my gosh.
And um not wanting And I felt
bad.
SPEAKER_05: I felt because of
what I what happened to you, the
fear in it and the right.
SPEAKER_00: We had to work
through the guilt on both sides
because I went through a moment
of did I do enough?
Did I cause this?
Did I delay and cause this?
SPEAKER_05: You know, like the
one thing that I've jumped into
thinking about is like what did
I do to cause all this?
And that that's you can't fall
in that mindset.
SPEAKER_00: No, you can't stay
there very long.
SPEAKER_05: It can be very
depleting.
SPEAKER_00: You gotta you gotta
pop right back out of that.
SPEAKER_05: Because the reality
is is the doctors all said that
couldn't tell you really
anything.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: They can tell me
what it caused it, why it was
there.
Yeah, it was just weird.
And like and I started having
just random high blood pressure
for no freaking reason.
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
It just popped on one day.
SPEAKER_05: Just for no reason
out of the blue.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
And it is what it is when and
you we we're and so one of the
things I can speak about about
my side of the journey.
I don't know how we are on time,
but I just wanted to review this
real quick.
Um, because as a caretaker or as
a partner of someone who has
gone through this, it's
traumatizing to that person as
well.
And if you're not careful, you
can get hung up in the fear
place.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's easy to
get caught up in in both
directions.
SPEAKER_00: Um and then what
happens if you do that is you
start treating the other person
like they are not capable.
Yeah.
And that's not beneficial to
them because then it makes them
feel like they are sickly or
they're not gonna be normal and
and they can lose their
confidence.
And but for you, if you don't
snap yourself out of that fear
place, it makes you take on
there are times it pops in.
Yeah, there are.
But I'm not gonna do everything
for you like you're some
invalid.
SPEAKER_04: Right.
SPEAKER_00: But people I've seen
them do that.
Yeah, they uh they begin to te
to treat the person like they
can't do anything, and the next
thing you know, they've taken
over the caregiver role, and
they wear themselves out putting
on the shoes and the socks, and
yeah, and this person is capable
of bending over and putting on
their own socks and shoes, for
God's sakes.
I'm cooking supper tonight, so
and it's not beneficial for
either person.
So if you are going through
something like this and you feel
like as the as the partner who
didn't have the experience, that
you are exhausted and you're
overwhelmed or you're
overworked, stop and really
analyze the situation and say to
yourself, you know, yes, this
happened to this person that I
love, but are they really
capable of doing some of these
things I'm doing for them?
And and recognize that it would
be beneficial to let them do
that so they can reestablish
their own confidence healing.
And you can clean your plate and
come out of that caregiver role
and begin the supportive spouse
or friend or whatever role
again.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well, that's
the same thing we used to teach
about tough love.
Sometimes, you know, they they
label it as tough love when it's
really not tough love.
It's really just people
balancing out their prisms or
their what word am I trying to
think of?
SPEAKER_00: Uh tell me when you
want it.
SPEAKER_05: Go ahead.
SPEAKER_00: Pendulum.
SPEAKER_05: Pendulum.
Yeah, they're balancing out
their pendulums again.
And where you they're in the
middle of a negotiation of
finding new grounded space that
is a pendulum of complete
correctness.
And so, like for me, like me and
not allowing you to do
everything for me is a pendulum
for me, and you accepting it is
a pendulum for you because now
you're also going to clarify and
remove the fears.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_05: And that's what it's
about because that fears can be
tough, man.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then
there's just one other small
tiny thing I wanted to talk
about in this because it's very
comical, but you brought it to
my awareness.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Um not treating the
person like they're not able to
relearn.
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And what I mean by
that, one of the things that I
did not know I was doing when I
would say words to you, oh yeah,
I would over-articulate them.
Yeah, you because I so I because
I still feel my nursing side pop
in every once in a while.
And I'm like, you know, how
especially that first day right
before we came home, I was like
uh doing some testing on you
myself just to make myself feel
better.
And I would say, uh, can you say
the word ball?
And I was over-articulated.
Like I was deaf or something.
Like you couldn't like
comprehend what I was saying.
It was previously and you called
me on it, and rightfully so.
SPEAKER_05: You talked to me
like a normal person.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
You said, you know, my hearing
is not bad.
My I can understand what you're
saying, but you're saying the
word in such a weird way.
Yeah, I don't know what you're
saying, but it's not because my
brain is not working, it's
because it made zero sense what
you're saying.
SPEAKER_05: It was like I didn't
know how you said it.
I was I was like, How did you
even say that?
I don't even know.
SPEAKER_00: I was
overpronouncing it because I
wasn't sure.
Like it's a learning experience
for everybody.
It was funny.
It was a good job.
Yeah.
So he brought it to my
attention.
I was like, holy shit, he's
right.
I am.
I'm like doing this whole other
language that probably is hard
to understand.
So if you are someone that has
gone through the injury and you
find that your partner is doing
things that are not helpful,
right.
Right.
And it would be helpful if you
would let me.
Or hey, you're doing this and
it's not helpful.
SPEAKER_05: I think the biggest
thing for me is is understanding
that I'm injured.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: I'm I'm not dead.
I'm not um I'm not able to do
things.
You know, I I am I am injured.
And I'm just injured and
temporarily injured.
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
And so, you know, it's And you
being able to voice to me when
I'm doing something that's not
beneficial or that you can't
even fucking understand.
SPEAKER_05: And I was like, what
the fuck do you say?
And so that's what I wanted to
put out there too, too because
it made me feel like I was like,
was I missing that made me think
I was doing something wrong or I
wasn't comprehending again.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
Exactly.
SPEAKER_05: And I'm like, the
fuck?
You know, right, but anyway.
SPEAKER_00: And so I give those
people that have had these
catastrophic catastrophic events
happen to them, yeah, injury,
trauma, I give you permission to
tell your partner, hey, you're
doing this thing, yeah, and it's
not helpful.
Or I wish you would let me do
it.
Let me at least try.
Yeah, because there's been times
as well in our new little
journey here that you've said,
no, let me try first.
Let me do it, yeah.
Let me try first, let me and
it's all coming right back.
SPEAKER_05: So it's not like
it's I mean, I mean, hell, I'm
sit I'm three days home and then
we're doing a podcast again.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_05: And and when just a
week ago I couldn't process two
freaking words.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_05: And and I don't mean
I I don't mean it.
Let me let me rephrase that.
I I had a g a few glimpses of
confusion.
And that and that's what and
that's something I want to talk
about about this with stroke
people, and so they will
understand that a stroke can
last five seconds.
Actually, two seconds.
Yeah, because that's what
happened to me.
Is I it it was literally less
than 30 seconds of confusion,
and then everything was back to
normal.
And then I but then it felt
weird.
It was just like a weird thing,
and so like no this stroke
prevention.
SPEAKER_00: And did you say in
your mind that you heard what I
was saying?
It's just that you couldn't
process the information to get
it from your brain to your
mouth.
SPEAKER_05: That's one hundred
percent.
SPEAKER_00: And so it wasn't
even like you were completely.
Yeah, it was just like you
couldn't make the communication.
SPEAKER_05: It's kind of it's
kind of a weird thing to
understand, is because it was I
was completely comprehending
everything that was being said.
Even at the lady at the At the
uh the tech that admissions,
everything she said, I could
completely process.
But when it comes to
articulating anything back, that
just wasn't happening.
SPEAKER_00: And then one of the
other things you said was when
you tried to multitask.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, I
couldn't do more than one thing
at a time.
SPEAKER_00: And then you tried
to do more than one thing at a
time.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Which now you're
much better at in just a couple
of days.
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, I'm I'm
totally coming back quickly.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_05: Um, I mean I it's
it's no it's just a a healing
process, and I I believe that I
will be 100% healed in the next
ten days.
SPEAKER_00: That's the key, man.
SPEAKER_05: And I I I know it.
And I and I there's no doubt in
my mind that this little image
that's in my brain that
supposedly is damaged, I think
it's gonna come right back and
it's gonna act like it was never
there.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Because I I believe
that.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
And that's the key.
SPEAKER_05: It is the key.
Anyway.
SPEAKER_00: That's and that
stuff's been documented with
other people.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_00: You know, like
Christopher Reeves and I mean a
lot of them have stories where
they used their mind when other
parts of their body didn't work,
and they created how they wanted
their reality to be until they
actually were physically able to
achieve that, and they did not
let anybody or anything bear
them from that.
SPEAKER_05: There ain't nothing
gonna get in my way, I promise
you that.
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
SPEAKER_05: Nothing's gonna help
me.
Nothing's gonna help nothing's
gonna help stop me.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And I I plan on
being able to help people
somewhere down the road with
this.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so it is
good.
SPEAKER_05: But anyway, well,
um, so real quick update
lucidiumworld.com.
You can check it out.
It's our new app.
Uh the Salty Tarot has migrated
into Lucidium World, and it's a
really cool app.
Oh my god, it's gonna have
metaphysical practitioners, it's
gonna have a store, we're gonna
have gamified avatars, it's
gonna be a mystical world of
just fun, exciting, and
learning.
We have the video of light, or
the I'm sorry, the library of
light, which is a uh building
that's gonna have video modules
where you can learn um about
different things, and we're
gonna have all the you know,
it's it's really just a cool
thing.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's turned
into a really amazing thing.
SPEAKER_05: It's AI powered,
it's gonna be like your higher
self right there, just in your
palm of your hand on your phone.
Absolutely.
It's really a cool thing.
Uh we're very excited about it.
We are and I will be updating
the uh um Lucidingworld.com, the
domain, all the information.
I have new images of all the
phone, you know, because uh the
coders when they create the
coding, they give me images of
what looks like in the phone.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And so I'm gonna put
that on the website so people
can actually see it, see what
it's gonna look like.
SPEAKER_00: See the progress of
it and everything.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's gonna be
a three-phase rollout.
Phase one is eight buildings,
uh, phase two is seven
buildings, and then phase three
is eight buildings.
And so we have a you know a
total of all that, and then and
then there's gonna be all sorts
of cool things coming to we have
Alien World, the uh cryptid
zone.
Yep, we have uh things coming up
and it's gonna be lots of fun.
But anyway, check it out
www.lucidiumworld.com.
And if you really, really want
to, you can check out our
website as well at
w.themercenters.org.
And uh go and subscribe on
Lucidium World and uh we'll give
you might give you the free um
trial run for the beta testing.
SPEAKER_00: For the beta, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And we will start
doing some discounted um ability
for the for the practitioners
that want to sign up.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Uh we'll do this uh
if they'll if they sign up
pre-launch, then we will do some
discounted pricing for them.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And then also for
people that want to subscribe
early, we're gonna give you some
heck of good discounts for the
first year off.
So that'll be coming up soon as
well.
SPEAKER_00: And as always, you
can get my book on Amazon
scripted from within.
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
SPEAKER_00: And then uh if you
want to really go into rabbit
hole areas, you can read my
articles that I produce on
Blogger.
SPEAKER_05: Do the edge and back
with Dr.
Genie.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
Good stuff.
SPEAKER_05: So that's on
Blogger, by the way.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's on
Blogger.
SPEAKER_05: And it's actually on
all the blog sites, but Blogger
puts it all as the one.
It's Blogger, Blogger is like
the thing for the podcast where
it puts everything at the same
place.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: It just puts it on
blog sites.
SPEAKER_00: So there you have
it.
SPEAKER_05: Anyway, don't forget
to like, follow, and share, and
tell your friends about all the
good stuff going on, and y'all
pay attention and uh for the
updates on the stroke prevention
stuff, because I am gonna put
that out there.
I am gonna definitely teach it
because I have lived through it
and I know what it felt like.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05: 100%.
And if I can help one person,
then I've done my job.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, awesome.
SPEAKER_05: Anyway, don't forget
to like, follow, share, and ring
that bell.
Hey, y'all have an awesome day.
SPEAKER_00: Love ya.