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Speaker 1: Thank you.
Guess what, dr Jenny?
What?
We're back in studio for the
Spiritual Grind doing another
podcast.
We only did one last week.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, we need a
spanking.
Speaker 1: And then we only did
two, and then before that we
didn't do any because we were on
vacation.
Speaker 2: We got to get back in
the groove, man we do.
Speaker 1: But this will be the
second one this week.
No, this will be the first one
this week, but anyway, welcome
back to the Spiritual Grind.
Everybody, we are planning
life's version of things out,
and my topic today is pretty
simple because, let's say it's
simple, it's something that I
see in a lot of people in our
environment, including ourselves
, and it's you know, we
generally on here we'll talk
about stuff that we're working
through.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the thing, one of
the things that has been
popping into my reality is not
allowing my human monkey mind
thoughts to control how I act
and be, because you know like,
for example, are you being your,
am I being myself or am I
changing away from myself
because of what I think people
will think or societal top
beliefs?
Yeah, and you know, I see people
change their persona every day
based on societal beliefs and
fears of what people will think
or do or say or be.
You know, and we see this a lot
, you know, and I think one of
the things that I see, you know,
one of the things that come to
mind, is like, for example, when
I was younger, I had a friend
that was way different, you can
tell he was a different kind of
guy than the norm and he was
perceived as homosexual, but he
wasn't just because of his kind
of feminine nature, he was just
kind of that feminine guy, um,
and so he started to put on this
big man persona and change
because he was fearful of what
people and how how people were
treating him.
And you know this is kind of
one.
You know that's kind of a major
example, but there are minor
things that we change and do
every day because of a fear of
what people will think or say to
us.
Speaker 2: Right, or what you
touched on.
Most often that I see that's
happening is not what people
will think of us, but the
storyline that we have created
in our head of what we think
they think, or what we think
will happen.
What we think, they think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree
Of us and so.
Speaker 2: And so, when you look
at that, these are the
questions I would ask.
Have I talked to that person
Right To see if that's what they
think?
That's one of the best ways to
squash.
Or why do I think that they will
think that Right, well, that
would be number one and two
question, as I'm researching
that for myself, is have I
talked to them?
What do they really think Right
, so I can squash the monkey
mind?
Lie, yeah, and then yes, yes.
Another good question would be
why do I think they think that?
Is it because of some previous
circumstance or event that I've
experienced where that was true,
and now I've clumped everybody
together and the whole wide
world thinks that and that.
And that is a lie as well, and
it will cause you to create a
reality and function within that
reality in not a true,
authentic way.
Speaker 1: Right, you know, I
have a family member, that's.
Speaker 2: Why did this come up
for you?
Speaker 1: Well, about a couple
of things.
Speaker 2: What happened.
Speaker 1: Well, there's just
the point in our life where we
are of going through what we're
going through here and me
presenting that and and and
thinking that they're going to
think that I'm crazy.
You know, that's when all
reality is, is it's obvious
what's going on?
And so when I present like when
I was, when I presented it to
the superiors, I was more
concerned about what they
thought of me than I was just
getting the truth out.
Speaker 2: Why?
What were you afraid would
happen?
Speaker 1: Don't really know.
That's where I'm kind of stuck.
Actually Don't really know what
the fear is.
I'm looking at it and trying to
figure it out.
Why did I alter who I am?
Because I know for what.
I know what the fear is.
I'm looking at it and trying to
figure it out, or what that.
Why did I alter who I am and my
note?
Because I know for what.
I know what I know, but for
some reason I just won't.
I would not be staunch about it
and like yesterday, you know,
we talked about being firm or
staunch about things and he's
like we're just not staunch
people and I don't necessarily
agree with that firmly.
But I have altered who I am
within a human issue because of
what I think that other people
will think and I don't like that
.
I don't like being that person.
I want to be who I am and I
want to do me, so to speak.
I want to do me and when I
alter my presence due to a
thought or idea or expectation
of how people are going to react
that's not a good perception.
That's not a good place to be in
, especially afterwards when you
get done, you're like why did I
do that?
Hey, yeah, good morning.
Good morning, how are that?
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Good morning.
Speaker 1: Good morning.
How are you Good?
How was your coffee this
morning?
Speaker 2: We didn't tell
everybody good morning.
Oh, we went right into it, man,
we just dabbed right in.
Oh sorry.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting.
Speaker 2: No, it's all good, I
just wanted to tell everybody
good morning.
Speaker 1: Good morning, well, I
think it's pent-up energy
because we haven't done a
podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1: And I have a few
subjects in my mind and this one
hit me in the shower again and
I was like why didn't I just
handle this differently and
trying to figure out why I
altered my presence?
And I don't like doing that,
because I see people do it all
the time.
Like you know, I have a family
member and this is a common
topic, that is, in the spiritual
world.
I think it's a common topic
amongst many different
parameters, where people will
alter who they are because of
what people think or say.
And you know, I have a family
member that was homosexual all
his life, when everybody knew he
was homosexual but he did not
admit it.
And then, finally, when he did
admit it, I asked him one day
why did you wait?
Everybody already knew.
Speaker 2: What is this
homosexual thing coming up?
Speaker 1: Why do you?
Speaker 2: keep using that as an
example?
Are you trying to tell me
something?
Speaker 1: No See, that's
exactly what that's a judgment
statement.
Speaker 2: No way, yeah, you are
.
That's a judgment statement.
Wow, chill, dude, I'm not, I
was just playing Well.
Speaker 1: I'm not Like take it
easy, but anyway.
So this scenario when I asked
why did you wait so long?
Everybody already knew he said,
well, it just wasn't okay and
it was.
It was kind of like a thought,
and these are the thoughts I'm
having in the shower, I don't
know why.
These are the topics that
they're popping in my head and
the subjects I don't know, but
it is a um.
Yeah, I see it a lot when people
this, where they change who
they are due to the fear of a
perception of what everybody's
going to think.
So how do we handle that
situation?
Speaker 2: Well, as you well
witnessed, it's going to be a
case-by-case scenario on where
the person is and where they are
wanting to go with it and what
they can actually be open and
receptive to hear and to handle.
I mean, you kind of just got to
evaluate each individual
situation.
You obviously are not at a
point where we can joke about
some topic like that for you,
because you got very defensive
about whatever, you got very
defensive about whatever, and so
then you're immediately
constricted and not open to
being able to really hear
anything about it and you put up
a barrier.
So it just depends on case by
case where you're at.
And so if we speak very
generally about the topic of
changing who you are based on
what you think other people
think or based on what you
witness other people commenting
about, it would be the topic
that we talk about just in
general.
Is that what you're wanting to
do?
Speaker 1: Is that where, I
guess I'm just trying to get?
Speaker 2: clarity on where
you're wanting to go with this.
Speaker 1: It is wherever it
goes.
I'm not trying to get clarity
on where you're wanting to go
with this.
It is wherever it goes.
I'm not trying to direct it.
I'm just trying to give it an
open forum of nonjudgmental talk
that people can be free to be
who they are and be honest about
it and be open about it,
without the perceived thoughts
of what people are going to say
or do to them.
Speaker 2: So let's first
clarify what it is exactly when
you say it.
What are you?
Speaker 1: talking about.
It can be any subject, it can
be anything.
Well, the most common one is
that I can think of off the top
of my head, that's just recently
is one of our constituents
constituents what is that?
That uh, that uh, um, is
obviously putting a front of who
he really is, putting out a
front and not being honest
because of the judgment that
people will put out there.
Speaker 2: So why do you care
what he's doing?
Speaker 1: I just, I just was
seeing it, it's just an
observation that I made, and
that is what I'm talking about.
Is they alter who they are and
not being true to themselves or
others and being honest about it
due to the fact of what people
will think, do or say?
I see, and you know it's a, it's
a common topic in.
You know, you asked about the
um why I was using the
homosexual examples, and that is
.
You know, that's the number one
thing.
You know.
You like, we watched that
RuPaul drag race and on there
they would talk about how they
wouldn't come out because of
what their parents would think,
or blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then when they do come out
they find out their parents
really didn't care, and so
that's why that topic comes into
play.
Speaker 2: I see.
Speaker 1: And so where?
Speaker 2: do we?
Are you or where do I'm letting
you have the floor, man, I'm
letting you.
Speaker 1: Well, this is Dr
Jenny too here.
What's going on?
You're just like shut down over
there over a situation that
happened.
Whoa chill, I'm not shut down.
Speaker 2: I'm letting you talk
it through and get to the place
where you're trying to get Okay.
So how do you work yourself
through it?
Speaker 1: I'm, I'm still
working through this scenario.
I'm it's not that I'm bringing,
I don't.
I have no answers.
I I'm because all I'm doing is
trying.
I'm trying to set it up to
where, um, I can work through
the process of being who I am
when it comes to the scenario
that we're dealing with.
Why did I alter off of who I am
and be more worried about what
they're going to think, instead
of just putting the facts out on
the table?
Speaker 2: Okay.
So if we go deep and we go all
the way to the core of that kind
of behavior that people are
having, it is all culminated
into one word it's a fear-based
program.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: It's the fear that
somebody's gonna think something
.
It's a fear that we're gonna
lose something such as our job,
our relationship.
It's a fear that we're gonna
receive negative consequences or
get reprimanded.
It is a fear that we more
uncomfortable to experience pain
and pleasure than what it is to
just hide it and pretend like
I'm somebody else.
Now that's the core issue.
It's fear-based.
Then we come up a level and
begin to research and dig around
.
What are the layers that we've
laid on top of that core belief?
What is the soil that we've
laid on top of that seed that's
growing?
And for each individual those
layers are going to look a
little bit differently.
And you brought up the
homosexual idea.
And so if we go on that topic
because, like you said, there's
many topics that this happens in
it all basically boils down to
the same kind of characteristic
traits.
If I'm afraid that people are
going to not like me anymore or
not accept me into the tribe, or
I'm going to lose my job, or
I'm going to lose my social
network because I divulge that I
have a sexual preference that's
opposite of what the societal
gender requirement is, the fear
is is that I'm not, I'm going to
be alone, I'm not going to have
any social network.
There's nobody out there that
has the same thought that I do,
and there's no other social
network.
That is my tribe, so to speak.
But it's kind of that way on any
topic.
It's a fear of losing something
that you currently have because
those people won't see it the
same way.
Or it's a fear of being made
fun of or being judged or being
chastised for behaving in such a
manner.
Or it's a fear of maybe losing
your job because you've brought
something to the table that you
think the company is not going
to be open to or that your boss
is not going to be open to.
It's just fear based.
It's fear based, and so you
work through that, just like you
do anything else.
You do what I just did, which is
to acknowledge that it's fear
based, and I'm a journaler man,
so I'm always going to say get
your journal out, write down the
, the, the, the fear.
It's fear.
Then take the topic homosexual.
Okay, what am I afraid will
happen?
If I am experiencing life and
my true, authentic way of
desiring a different gender in
my life and wanting to dress in
the opposite gender way, what am
I afraid is going to happen?
And write down worst case
scenario.
And if it's like, if one of the
statements is I'm afraid that
people are going to think bad
about me, okay, what can you do
about that?
Well, you can do one of two
things.
You can take on the notion of
so what?
I don't care what people think
I'm going to be, who I am, and
if they have a problem with it,
if they're offended, it's their
beliefs, patterns and programs
they have to work on, and
perhaps that's not the person I
want to hang out with.
Or you can go on an
experimental journey and you go
to that person and you share
with them.
Listen, I am homosexual and I'm
just curious.
I'm doing an experiment and I
want to interview you on what do
you think about me, knowing
that I am that?
Speaker 1: because, I'm.
Speaker 2: You know, you can
play a game with it.
Or, if it's a closer family
member, just come to a place and
say hey, I'm homosexual.
I've been hiding it because I'm
afraid you think that I am some
negative something.
And so what do you really think
?
And be completely honest with
me.
That way you get to decide what
you want to be and do in it.
They get to decide what they
want to be doing it and trusting
that, it's going to feel really
good to be able to get rid of
that baggage that you're toting
around.
Because you may find, just like
you said, the parents didn't
really care, but that individual
was creating this story, that
they did care, and the story
then grew from there that not
only do they care, but they're
going to disown me and out me
and I'm not going to get to be a
part of the family anymore.
And the story just went on and
on and on and the findings were
that he was creating a story
that was an absolute lie.
Speaker 1: Well, you see with me
, what I've identified in this
perception of what we are
dealing with here is, I asked
myself why did I alter who I am
in explaining this?
And my only answer was because
it would change the way they
view us.
And the reality is, I don't
really know how they view us,
and so I've created the story in
my head of how they view us.
And so then I have a fear of
losing this idea that's in my
head that I have created that I
really don't know how we're
viewed, right, and.
But I have a fear of losing
that when I really don't even
know if it's true.
So do I really have it in the
first place?
Right, and that's where.
But getting to the point of the
why.
But why did I allow myself to
create this story where I feel
like that, when I tell them
what's going on or whatever,
that it changes how they view us
, when I don't even know for
sure how they view us?
And so I'm getting to the point
of the why.
Why did I create what I feel
like that they viewed us as
prior to this, when I don't even
know if it's true?
And so I'm at the point of why.
Why did I create the fictitious
story in my head?
That that's not proven.
Speaker 2: Well, sometimes we
create a fictitious story
because that is a form of goal
setting, it's a form of
daydreaming, it's a form of
creating a reality and then
moving towards that goal.
And so sometimes it is a
positive thing If you create and
I'm going to just use us for an
example, and I'm going to just
use us for an example, if we
create this thought that we are
seen, as you know, the number
one managers in the company and
we do all of these wonderful
things and some of them maybe
have not even come to fruition.
That's a form of holographic
daydreaming, so to speak, of
goal setting.
And so then what?
Because the best way that it
works when you're creating your
reality or aligning with a
reality that you've put into
existence, is daydreaming
yourself there, without an
expectation and an insistence
that it must turn out that way.
And what we teach is talk about
what you want it to look like
and how you've daydreamed that
it looks like, so that you can
better come in alignment with
that right, right.
And so if you're creating a
story of you know what we beat
all of our numbers.
We are number one in the
company when it comes to all of
the statistical numbers.
We're 100%.
That's just you verbally
putting yourself in a frequency
that aligns with that reality
that you want, and there's
nothing wrong with that.
There's absolutely aligns with
that reality that you want and
there's nothing wrong with that.
There's absolutely nothing
wrong with that, unless you take
it in the direction that you
took it, which is okay.
So I've had this thing happen,
and if I share the trueness of
exactly all of the intricate
details of what happened, then
this perspective that I've
created, that I think they see
me as, will be modified in such
a way that I will have to
experience negative results of
that.
And so then you'll modify how
you tell the story or how you
give the information to them so
that you don't change that,
because you're afraid of a
potential consequence that you
might experience by giving all
the details or telling what's
actually happening fully and
completely.
You'll leave out details or
omit information or not talk
about it at all, not tell at all
.
And that happens in any kind of
relationship, whether it be
work relationships, personal
relationships, friends, whatever
.
That's how that kind of comes
about.
Speaker 1: Okay, makes sense, it
does.
Yeah, the parameters within
that I have been operating
within are based on my
perception of an assumed
perception, and that is not a
correct way of operating through
life.
Speaker 2: It's not that it's
not correct.
It's okay to daydream it's just
not okay to then modify how you
naturally would be based on
that holographic daydream,
especially if it causes you not
to be open and honest, and
that's what you're wanting to be
.
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, I get it.
And the perception of it like
our example that we're talking
about.
I use those a lot.
When I say and do the things
like the examples you've made,
like we're the number one
managers in the company, yada,
yada.
When I say and do the things
like the examples you've made,
like we're the number one
managers in the company, yada,
yada, that is for me more of
putting the energy out there,
because I know what you put out,
you get out and it's about
intention setting.
Speaker 2: Right, exactly.
Speaker 1: Even though I have
been told by our former previous
superior that we are anomalies.
Speaker 2: And that we're looked
at very highly by the company
for sure.
But before we openly got to
that place, you and I would
write our story verbally to each
other, that way to generate
that energy, to embrace that
frequency, finding what that
feels like so that we can align
with that reality, because
that's something that we wanted
to happen.
And so you kind of it's almost
like giving yourself permission
not to really face reality
because reality is old news.
I got to go rabbit hole for
just a second.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, so the rabbit
hole of all of this is the
actual reality that you sit here
and you're looking at was
created based on the beliefs you
used to have, maybe two minutes
ago, maybe two days ago
whatever this reality right now
that we're living in was created
in the history Right it was
created from the frequency of
what you previously were
experiencing or the beliefs that
you were running.
You previously were experiencing
or the beliefs that you were
running.
The minute you change a belief
pattern, program or you change
your perception that reality is
a whole new reality that you can
choose to line up with or not.
And so it is perfectly okay to
talk about the things that you
want to see come into the new
reality and not face reality,
the current reality that you're
in, because it's old news, it's
the manifestation of what you
used to see and believe.
And so when we, when I say I
never faced reality, that's what
I mean when I say I never face
reality, that's what I mean.
Like the current situation I'm
sitting in, whatever it may be,
I don't give a lot of focus to
that.
Now, I'm human, so there's
times when I have meltdowns if
it's not comfortable, but I have
to remind myself this is
already done.
Speaker 1: It's already over.
What did you say I?
Speaker 2: have to remind myself
that this is already done and
this is going to pass, and that
what I'm creating is the new
reality coming my way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: And so it's not like
you're telling yourself a lie.
It's not like you're saying a
lie when you like.
For instance, you and I having
those conversations in the past
of you, know we're 100%, we're
the top managers in the building
, when we would have that
conversation amongst us.
And the reason we had it
between the two of us in the
beginning is because when you're
sharing it with other people
and it's not the reality, they
see it can appear like you're
lying and nobody likes the
energy of that Right.
So you can talk with your
partner or a good friend or
write it down on a piece of
paper the reality that your goal
, your plan to align with on
piece of paper, defining exactly
what you want it to look like.
It's no different than telling
that story and becoming that
verbally.
Yeah, I agree, so that's, all
that's happening and it's not a
bad thing to do.
Speaker 1: Right, and so that's
why we've got to kind of do a
little plot twist with people
that are listening so they will
understand more that you have to
give yourself the permission to
be who you are and act the way
you want to act within your own
beliefs with when you have a
fear that pops up with that's
causing a bump up against place.
Stop and look at this story
behind it.
We know, like I have, an
example of a gentleman that is a
military vet, very proud,
decorated vet of the military,
but because of the war it was in
, he hides it.
Oh cause, he's embarrassed of
the right of the actions that he
caused because of caused
because of a perception that he
thinks that everybody will view
of him.
Speaker 2: Oh, I see.
Yeah, it's very common.
Speaker 1: It is.
It's a big deal and people
alter their lives every day
because of it.
And it can be a domino effect
of repercussions and perceptions
that change and becoming
aligned with you who you are.
No matter what your history is,
remember your history.
They say your history defines
who you are.
I don't believe that.
I believe that your beliefs
that you carry right now define
who you're going to become and
when you have a history of.
Speaker 2: Your history can
define who you are, if you
choose to bring that history
with you into your new reality.
Speaker 1: I agree with that.
But I'm talking about for the
common person that that doesn't
identify, that like when this
particular gentleman.
He doesn't identify with
spiritual beliefs or any of that
kind of stuff.
He just believes that what he
did was so embarrassing and the
way he got treated when he came
back home.
He is embarrassed to tell
people, you know that that he's
this decorated war veteran from
the vietnam war and because of
what he thinks people are going
to think, do and say to him and
like I told him is, you don't
know until you ask, and so
that's where I was going.
Next, and this is why I use
this example is I told him have
you even asked anybody?
You know what they think of it.
You know, go talk to one of the
fellow veterans that were in
that war and see what they think
.
Right, you know, give yourself
the permission to ask questions
to create a different perception
of the story.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of
where I'm at with this stuff in
the shower this morning.
I was thinking is is where do I
need to identify this at and
why?
Why did I allow myself to
create this version in my head?
And that's where it is.
Is it comes from a fear?
It comes from maybe former
history Right, how people react.
It comes from monkey mind.
It comes from many different
things and it can come from
other people's monkey minds and
that creates a reality or an
environment that causes you to
alter who you are.
Speaker 2: Or how you behave.
Or how you behave, yeah, I get
all the time I have people come
up to me and say you're such an
inspiration because you just do
and dress and be whatever.
And I just wish I could be that
way, and I do.
I mean, I'll put on, I'll wear
some of the craziest ass shit,
I'll do some crazy shit to my
hair, I'll just do whatever and
and I I don't ever, for the most
part I don't.
There are topics you and I I do
that.
With that I still am a work in
progress, yeah, but for the most
part I just do me in it.
And when you practice that
habit and you get to a place,
it's very freeing, and then it
just becomes a new habit and so
you just, you know, hey,
whatever.
Because I remember a time when
I would dress a certain way to
be accepted into a group or
laugh at something I didn't find
funny, or you know, I would do
certain things that were not
authentic and I just kind of I
came to that place, that place
of where you're at, and I'm like
I'm going to just do me,
because that feels right, it
feels better, because when I
would behave in ways that were
not authentic.
I would check in with my
emotional guidance system, egs,
and I would feel yucky for doing
it Right.
It wouldn't even be pleasurable
.
Speaker 1: And I find myself
holding back.
Yeah, like there's a certain
situation right now in our work
environment that you know about
that, I want to go up on the
roof and scream on the
mountaintop that this person
that's in our reality is a
complete and utter liar.
Yeah, and I wouldn't tell
everybody right and I hold
myself back because it's not my
well.
There's many different
parameters, but I think the main
thing is it's not my job to
change that person's reality and
not my job to expose.
Well, the reality is that you
can't change their reality
necessarily.
Speaker 2: But if it doesn't
feel like it's again, you go
back to your EGS emotional
guidance system, and if it
doesn't feel right to do that,
then it's not time to do that,
right?
I?
Speaker 1: agree, and it may not
be a time to do it at all.
It may not ever be.
Speaker 2: Because if you're
doing things like that from an
angry place, or a revengeful
place and not from a guided
place of.
I know this is the right thing
to do.
It will feel much different.
Speaker 1: And I'll give you an
example.
Speaker 2: We had an employee
that Performed an act, and I am
not generally a manager who
enjoys or gets any enjoyment out
of having to relieve somebody
of their job duties while they
work under me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't like
to change anybody's reality.
Speaker 2: We're very much
giving people a chance to learn
and grow, and so we don't tend
to be canners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or the staunch
managers.
Speaker 2: But I recently had
this experience where I had to
make that decision and because I
knew spiritually that it was
time for her to go on a
different journey, because I
checked in with it and our this
is kind of rabbit hole and it's
a little bit advanced, our
interaction of why we really
came together in the guise of or
in the perception of she came
here to work for me.
That was the kind of surface
idea, but the underlying idea
spiritually was that we had a
contractual agreement that I was
going to play a character she
was going to learn and grow from
, was going to learn and grow
from and because of that and my
understanding of that level of
what's going on, I was
completely at peace on my
emotional guidance system of and
it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Well, it was
obviously a divine flow, because
the actions that took place.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a pleasant
thing by any means.
Speaker 1: The actions that took
place.
Her actions, your actions,
everybody's actions were
obviously there for a reason,
and that was like an obvious
thing because it was so off the
wall and so crazy that you
almost couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2: Well, and what I'm
saying is you know that you're
doing what you're doing, even if
it looks like or feels like,
you know gosh.
I hate that this is having to
go on.
I don't know, I don't Wow, what
was that?
That's all folks.
I don't necessarily enjoy
dismissing people under my
command, so to speak.
That's not something that's
enjoyable.
I don't get pleasure out of
that.
But what I know is that, in
this particular situation, I
checked in with it, as I do with
all things, and I knew that
this decision was the decision.
And I knew that this decision
was the decision and it was time
for me to follow through with
releasing this person from the
job.
Speaker 1: Well, there was
obviously your responsibility
because I had zero feelings in
it.
I was just kind of neutral in
the situation, yeah.
Speaker 2: And so that's one of
the ways that you will, as we
use us to teach people how do
you know when things are what
they are and how do you know
when they're not.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So, for me, I knew
that it was in mine and her
journey for me to play this
character of releasing her of
her holographic job
responsibility.
Holographic job responsibility
and even though it was a little
bit of an unpleasant series in
the play, I knew that this was
the right decision and so,
therefore, I didn't have guilt,
I didn't have yucky feelings
within it, I was at peace with
the decision that I'd made.
There was no, I didn't do it
from a place of resentment.
Speaker 1: I didn't do it from a
place of anger.
Speaker 2: I didn't do it from a
place of resentment, I didn't
do it from a place of anger, I
didn't do it from a place of any
other emotion, except I just
knew that it was time and this
was our agreement.
And I moved forward because I
checked in with my emotional
guidance system and I was at
peace with the decision.
Speaker 1: Well, in humanly, the
actions were against company
policy.
Speaker 2: And for you, knowing
that it wasn't your cue card to
step up and play and it wasn't
you that was supposed to do.
It comes from you checking in
with your emotional guidance
system and saying I'm neutral in
this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very
neutral.
I was very neutral in it, it
doesn't.
Speaker 2: I don't get any kind
of guidance on I should do it, I
shouldn't do it.
She can stay, she can go, and
so there was no nudge
necessarily for you to go any
direction in it and that's how
you guys can know what part
you're playing in any of this.
Right, you check in with that
emotional guidance system and
don't make decisions from those
lower level vibrational
frequency emotions like anger,
resentment.
You know, check in with it, set
with it and when you know it's
the right thing, even if it's
having to fire somebody, you'll
still feel at peace.
Speaker 1: You know.
I think another topic we need
to carry on in this is how does
it feel when you do be yourself?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And how rewarding it
can feel and how good it feels
on the inside, how releasing of
energy it can be, how light,
yeah, light.
That's a good way.
Speaker 2: And free.
Speaker 1: Light and airy to be
who you are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you
release that baggage that's not
yours, then you.
So how it works is, if you have
a topic and you've created this
mindset that other people think
this way, you've basically
taken on a piece of heavy
luggage that's not even yours,
so you're carrying that around.
And when you're carrying around
a vibrational frequency that's
not yours, it is very heavy, and
so the minute you come to a
place of awareness and the
willingness to release it, then
it aligns you back with your
natural frequency and you feel
very free, you feel very light,
very airy, and it feels good.
Yeah, totally, it feels really
good.
Speaker 1: You know, we as
humans have this habit, a lot
that we do and we use it to
manipulate our own environment
and most of the time it's
involuntary and that is that
perceived story that we create.
Say more Say, for example, you
know, I was in a pretty terrible
marriage for a very long time
and because I perceived what
other people would think of me
if I ended that relationship,
even though that relationship
was done many years before I
actually left, I just continued
to put myself humanly into a
situation that was not happy,
not healthy for anybody, because
of the stories that I thought,
you know, people would create in
their own head.
And some of that has come true.
Those stories were created, but
I felt so much better when I
just walked away.
Speaker 2: And what you came to,
the realization, was that, even
though they created the stories
, nothing bad happened to you,
correct?
Correct, because that's the
other piece of it is whenever
we're creating this story, the
way that that mechanism works,
called the monkey mind, is we
create this story to keep
ourselves away from doing a?
Thing, that we think is going
to be worse than the situation
we're in right.
Speaker 1: They say the pain,
yeah, the, when the pain of
getting out of it is greater, or
the pain of getting out of it
is, or the pain of staying in it
is greater than the pain of
getting out of it.
That's when we start changing
things right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And so that mechanism
, your monkey mind, will keep
creating little tidbits of story
of okay, well, if you do that,
what if it does this?
And what if it does that?
Oh my, god, this is gonna
happen and then it's gonna be
I'm, I'm gonna be all alone and
I'm to be a social stigma and
nobody's going to want to even
touch me because I have some
contagious disease.
Speaker 1: And our monkey mind
can be so.
Maximizing, yeah, but that's by
design, you're right.
Speaker 2: The monkey mind is
there to serve a purpose.
Create a big dramatic story
Because, on a rabbit hole forum,
it's there to keep a reality
created so that we can learn and
grow.
If we are living through this
life knowing that we are this
powerful being and that none of
this is real, then we don't have
quite that authentic and that
visceral experience on the human
level, and so, by design, it
has to continue to try and keep
itself as real as possible.
Speaker 1: I agree.
The monkey mind plays such a
big part in this topic.
Speaker 2: It really does.
Speaker 1: And I think the
message I want to give out in
our podcast today is giving
people the permission to, if
they have this story created, to
ask why.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And go communicate
about it and ask you know, just
go ask somebody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would say
that the other part of it is if
you're not there yet, if you're
not at a place where you can
actually go to that person and
say you know, hey, I want to
know what you think about this.
Then explore your own self.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Use that time when
you've come to the aware place
that you know it's happening,
you know that you're modifying
your true, authentic behavior.
Because you have this
underlying fear of what people
are going to think or what's
going to happen and you're not
ready to really go and confront
that person or those people you
can't really get there.
At least do some research on
yourself and dig around in it.
Why am I afraid?
What am I afraid of?
What am I afraid that's going
to happen?
And research that and write it
down.
Speaker 1: And be prepared for
your monkey mind to prove your
thoughts.
Because, like this happens,
these kind of things will happen
where you may have one topic
and you've created this
perceived story, and then you
interact with others and then
you hear them making judgmental
comments or doing judgmental
things, and our monkey mind will
take that and say, see, I told
you so They'll go through that
issue.
You know, like our tattoos on
our arm sleeves, we hear people
all the time oh my God, I would
never do that.
Speaker 2: Oh well, then it
leaves more ink for me, because
I love doing it.
Speaker 1: Right, but our monkey
mind takes that information and
feeds into saying but do you
know why it does that?
Speaker 2: No, would you like
you know why it does that?
No, would you like to know why?
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: So the reality that
we live in, that we've created,
if you can think about it this
way, it is basically a mirror
reflecting back to you what
you're still hanging on to or
what you could still work on if
you were wanting to continue to
work on something okay and so
it's.
It's kind of a test of have I
let that go?
What is the next thing I can
work on?
What is still?
What is it that I'm still
reflecting out to the universe
on a frequency level, and so
then it bounces that back to you
through your reality as kind of
a glitch in the channeling
Maria Maria.
As I channel the information,
there sometimes are glitches.
Anyway, if you are actually
wanting to evolve and grow in
this topic, wanting to evolve
and grow in this topic, the
reality that's in front of you
will reinforce what you're still
running.
The patterns, programs and
beliefs that you're still
running, Reflecting back to you
what you're doing Right, and so
the example you gave is just the
universe or the guide or
whoever you work with showing
you know, the universe or the
guide or whoever you work with
showing you that, hey, you still
have a bit of this that you're
running in your reality, and
that's why you're having people
come across your reality that
are still talking about, or
whatever you still have a little
bit of that belief running
around, and so, if you choose to
, you might want to look at it
and can you tell me?
put it in the trash.
Speaker 1: Can you tell me what
it means to have a splinter pop
up on your finger when you
haven't done any woodworking in
probably eight or 10 years?
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: Cause I have a
splinter and it just popped up
on one of my fingers.
It's driving me insane and it
hasn't.
I haven't touched a piece.
You know, did any woodworking
for a very long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is
representative or symbolic of a
belief that is ready to come to
the surface and come out.
That has been a burr in your
saddle for quite a long time.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
That's what a spender means,
that's what.
Speaker 2: That's what a spender
means.
That's what it's representative
of.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep.
Anyway, hey, I feel pretty good
.
So, basically, before we end
this, I want to tell everybody
it's okay to be who you are,
what you are and how you are,
and if you want to change your
reality, change your beliefs
right now and move forward.
Speaker 2: Right yeah, because
whatever beliefs you're running
right now, whatever perception
you're running right now, is the
reality that you're creating
for your tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Yes, totally agree
with that statement.
Speaker 2: So the reality that
you're witnessing today was
created from the beliefs that
you had a while ago.
Speaker 1: A while ago.
Speaker 2: A while ago.
Speaker 1: A while ago.
A while ago.
A while ago.
Is that an animal Can I get?
A while ago.
Speaker 2: It's an animal.
Now it's encrypted.
Speaker 1: Welcome to McDonald's
.
May I take your order please?
Can I get a while ago?
Speaker 2: What does a while ago
look like?
Speaker 1: Can you McBiggie that
?
Speaker 2: I need a Mcgie
wallago Can.
Speaker 1: I get a Biggie
wallago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and does that
come equipped with a leash and
collar, because I would like to
have a lime green.
Speaker 1: I would like to have
the pink wallago please yes.
Can I get a pink wallago with a
leash?
Yes, I would like to be size
that that's perfect.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna create a
wall ago.
I'm gonna decide oh, I did that
a while ago I'm gonna decide
what that looks like and I'm
gonna put it on a shirt yeah,
there you go, I got a wall ago
I'm to create a whole new
creature.
Speaker 1: This is my wall ago.
Ask me about it.
Speaker 2: What's your wall
ago's name?
Speaker 1: Yesterday Would you
help me name my wall ago.
Speaker 2: My wall ago's name is
yesterday.
Speaker 1: My wall ago name was
10 minutes 10 minutes wall ago,
while ago name was 10 minutes 10
minutes while ago.
Speaker 2: I also have one
called five minutes five minutes
while ago.
Her brother's name is five
minutes.
Five minutes while ago.
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