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Speaker 2: Hello, hello
everybody, thank you for
listening to the how Big Is
Yours?
Series on relationships.
This is the continuation of the
series, part three, and it's
about material things.
Speaker 1: Your relationship to
material things.
Speaker 2: AKA Part 3.
Part 3.
Thank you for listening.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I think we should
push into is let's talk about
material things.
Okay, I mean, it was a great
little leeway into it with the
talk about the yellow Jeep.
Yeah, how many times have you
thought to yourself I'm going to
buy a new car?
I probably can't.
They probably they want to
prove me.
I don't want my credit, it's
not good enough, I don't make
enough money.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I can't go buy a
house because I can't buy the
house in that neighborhood,
because I can't afford it.
I have to settle for this one.
Speaker 1: Right yeah.
Speaker 2: And that's all a
relationship within yourself.
You don't think you deserve it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And so now your
containment device is becoming
too full of the negative
materialistic stuff or the
thoughts about materialistic
stuff.
Speaker 1: So clarify.
Speaker 2: Clarification I can't
buy that house because I can't
afford it.
Speaker 1: Right.
So your containment device is
full of the perceived Reality
Value, of what you can and can't
buy, or what.
What are you trying to say?
Speaker 2: when you perceive
that you cannot afford this
house prior to you even checking
into it yeah and so it makes
you fall back into yourself on
that materialistic item.
Then you are believing and
filling your containment device
up with those negative beliefs.
It's like you do with your self
worth.
Speaker 1: And you're saying
that's a type of relationship
with material things?
Yes, I got you Okay.
Speaker 2: You understand?
Yeah, did I lose you?
Speaker 1: For just a half a
second.
I was hanging on by a thread.
My door was open.
Oh no, I about fell out of the
car.
Speaker 2: Good thing?
Oh no.
Speaker 1: Did I lose?
Speaker 2: the audience too.
Speaker 1: Maybe, Ladies and
gentlemen, please keep your
hands inside the vehicle at all
times.
There will be sharp curves,
sharp turns, whifty-doos and
loo-lee-lops.
Speaker 2: And the doors don't
lock.
If you're in a Jeep, you might
not even have doors.
Speaker 1: Ooh good, one Might
not even have a top.
Speaker 2: May not.
And so when you start thinking
those kind of negative things,
you're putting that negative
energy into the universe and
filling your containment device
up with negative.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely
a trap if you're not careful.
Let's talk about the credit
score?
Yeah, let's do, because that's
a fun game to play.
It is.
Speaker 2: This is a fun story.
I'm going to give you a James
tip of the day.
Your credit score has nothing
to do with how much money you
make or how many times you make
an on-time payment.
Speaker 1: What.
Speaker 2: Nothing to do with it
.
It does solidify your credit
score, but it does not help it
go up.
You know what makes it go up.
Speaker 1: What.
Speaker 2: Debt to income.
Speaker 1: Really Well.
What else helps go up is if you
align with the frequency of
having a higher score, and then
you don't have to do anything
yeah like yours that's where I
was going with that.
Speaker 2: I was kind of baiting
you there and you didn't jump
into that.
I was miss, miss.
You can sit on her chair and
her patio and have a 30 point
higher credit score than me and
not do anything.
Anything, not do a thing.
It's crazy really.
Speaker 1: I'm doing things, I'm
just not working as hard as you
.
Speaker 2: You're not humanly
doing things.
I work smarter, not harder.
I understand it's what you
believe.
If you believe you can have a
higher credit score and you
believe you can own that house
and you empty your containment
device on material things and
they quit thinking those
negative thoughts, you'll bring
more materialistic things into
your reality and you know how
you do that.
Speaker 1: How.
Speaker 2: With abundance.
It's that spiritual word.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's
going to be some people out
there that are going to go on
the bandwagon of you.
Shouldn't be materialistic,
anyways, if you're spiritual I
agree and that's not really how
this is all designed it's all
perception it is now.
Here's the key.
If the thought of not having
that materialistic thing in your
bubble brings you to a place of
fear or panic, Then you might
want to look at it.
But having toys to play with,
having things nobody anywhere
said that was wrong.
Speaker 2: I agree, and it's
about pain and pleasure.
Those toys and those
materialistic things give you
pleasure.
Speaker 1: It is okay to have
finding your joy, your
excitement, in every given
moment, because that is a
frequency that aligns with the
creation that we've already
created.
When we ask for things, when we
desire things, that is the
vibrational frequency that
matches you up to those things.
So if you're finding your joy
in that, in every moment, then
that's the goal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree
with that.
Speaker 1: That's the
relationship you want to hold.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the
relationship and the containment
device that you need to judge
your reality on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you get to
the place where you can do that
on a regular basis, you won't
necessarily.
You'll get to a place where you
get rid of the containment
device.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Because it will
become obsolete.
Speaker 2: Right, so let's talk
about some of the higher up
people.
Yeah, let's talk about Elon
Musk.
Speaker 1: You mean like the
president?
Speaker 2: Do you think Elon
Musk has a containment device?
The wealthiest man in the world
.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's
the wealthiest in the world, but
I know he's up there.
Speaker 1: Their poop stinks too
.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but does he
have a containment device?
When it comes to, I feel like
he does in some areas.
You think so?
Speaker 1: When it comes to
money.
Obviously his is quite large.
Speaker 2: His containment
devices.
I don't think he has one.
Speaker 1: But I feel like that
he probably has some containment
devices in some area.
Let me add him for about an
hour, I'll find it, elon, you
hear that challenge.
Speaker 2: Dr Jenny is
challenging you.
Speaker 1: I will find it.
Speaker 2: So when you align
with that vibration and you
realize it's pain and pleasure,
and if the material things give
you pleasure, there's nothing
wrong with it.
Speaker 1: Right, I don't think.
Speaker 2: I know I agree with
you.
Speaker 1: But when it's time
for that to go away, it is
beneficial to be just neutral
about it, because if it's if
it's meant for you to have it
again, it'll come back just same
ways that came in the first
place.
Don't be so attached to it that
it creates a, an emotion that
lowers your vibrational
frequency and puts you in the
fear template or the loss or the
separation or the anxiety.
All those are heavy vibrations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there for a few
years I was trading my Harley
in every like seven or eight
months.
Yeah, and that's okay to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so I want to
clarify on something.
When we said earlier about the
credit score, I'm not telling
you not to pay your payments on
time so that your toys go away.
You want to pay your payments
on time, but it doesn't.
On time payments only affect
your credit score positively
after, I think that said, 42
months I have no idea, remember,
but I don't play the game and
when dr jenny this referred to
your, when it's time for that
toy to go away or whatever.
that is because we're not just
talking about toys, we're
talking about a house, a car.
Speaker 1: A relationship A
relationship.
Speaker 2: We're talking about a
Harley, we're talking about
whatever it is, that you want,
that nice guitar, that you want
to buy.
Whatever it is, it's okay to
buy those things and raise your
vibration with it.
Just because you're spiritual
don't mean you have to.
Speaker 1: Even if you only play
with it for one, two days and
then the mood of joy leaves,
it's okay, it's not a big deal,
even if you spent thousands of
dollars on it and then in a few
days, eh, it's not so much.
Then get rid of it, sell it,
move it, let it sit there and
move on to the next thing.
Speaker 2: That's pleasant,
joyful, I think the biggest part
of the containment device for
material things is to realize
that you don't have to be Chris
Farley.
Speaker 1: I don't know who that
is and live in a van down by
the river.
Down by the river.
I don't know if you've seen
that Skip.
Speaker 2: I'll have to show it
to you, Just because we're
spiritual.
Modern day spiritualism is much
different than it was 20 years
ago.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Absolutely I
mean modern spiritualism.
Speaker 2: Back then was men,
didn't work Minimal, minimal,
they're minimalist.
Minimalist, that Minimal.
They're minimalist.
Minimalist, that's a good way
to put it, and you don't have to
do that nowadays.
It's coming into the forefront.
Everybody is starting to accept
it into the modern day
spiritualism.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because it's normal.
It's normal to have things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to
have those people out there
that say, yeah, but what about
the planet?
And what about the carbon
footprint and all of that?
And that is a rabbit hole.
So let me give you a snippet of
how it works.
There is a multiverse and there
are many earths, and on this
particular earth the footprint
is perhaps of clean, new, small,
but on the other earth it may
be that it's a hot mess, because
each one of us is at a
different level of learning and
experiencing the contrast.
So there is an earth that fits
where each person is in their
journey or their mission, so to
speak.
And as you increase your
vibration or decrease, you
actually are moving from each of
those different earths,
different frames of parallel
realities.
You're moving in between those
in every second.
Speaker 2: I think on this
dimensional plane, if we all
raise our vibration through the
collective consciousness and we
get our vibration level up, you
can't hurt this earth.
Speaker 1: You can't hurt this
earth anyways, because by design
, it is designed the way that it
is, so that we can have the
experiences that we are having.
And so then what happens is, as
you learn and grow and evolve
from the experiences that you're
having on this particular earth
, you raise your frequency, you
raise your vibration, then you
become aligned with a different
kind of earth that gives you a
whole nother set of ways to
explore different scenarios,
different journeys and evolve
again.
Yes, and it just keeps going.
It's kind of like being in
school.
Speaker 2: This is a rabbit hole
?
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it.
Can you start out in pre-K,
then you go all the way to 12th
grade, then college?
It's like that.
And so it's not that you're
changing the earth.
It's like that.
And so it's not that you're
changing the earth.
You're changing yourself so
that you go to a parallel
reality that has a different
earth.
So you literally are a
different person every second of
the day.
Speaker 2: I'm a first grader.
Now well, I'm just a first
grader in this dimension, but
that's okay, I'm learning and
I'm here too.
Speaker 1: That in this
dimension.
But that's okay, I'm learning
and I'm here too.
Speaker 2: That's what we're
here for.
Yeah, that's that's.
All we can do is continue to
learn and grow and be better at
it.
And so back on to the
containment device with the
abundance.
It's okay to be abundant, and I
think that's the really.
The only thing you have to do
is dump out that cup of I can't
have, I can't, I can't, I don't
deserve, I can't, I can't, I
don't.
You know those kind of words
need to be removed or I
shouldn't.
Yeah, that's a good one, I
shouldn't.
I shouldn't go buy this.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't buy this
because I should spend the money
on something else, or we paid
this much thousands of dollars
for this and we've not played
with this, so let's sell it,
yeah.
Speaker 2: That even happened as
kids.
Speaker 1: You had to go do a
spring, that's right, yeah, If
you don't go play with those or
you know some of us.
Okay, it's spring cleaning,
we're going to go through the
toy box and donate the things
you don't play with anymore
because you, some other little
kid needs them, that's right,
yeah, I mean.
So we were taught that.
Yeah, that if you don't play
with this, this thing, every
single day for the rest of your
life, then you shouldn't have it
right, and I'm here to squash
that.
That is not the way it works.
Speaker 2: I remember one time
my brother left one of his toys
out and my dad, he stepped on it
and he got so angry.
He got so angry, it was so
funny and he yelled at my
brother, you need to pick your
toys up.
Speaker 1: It's called the Lego
reaction.
Speaker 2: And my brother was on
the floor playing with him and
my dad said you need to pick
your toys up, we ain't playing
with him.
I remember my brother was on
the floor playing with him.
He looks up.
He's like I'm just playing with
him, dad.
It was so funny.
It was like that innocence lost
for a moment.
But uh, I don't know why that
story came in.
Speaker 1: I just remembered
that yeah, that's the thing is
that you deserve to have every
and anything that you want.
Or desire or desire.
Speaker 2: In life.
It is Because you're here for
experiences, and sometimes those
toys are experiences.
Speaker 1: That's right.
If they bring you joy and get
your vibration and your
frequency raised for that moment
, then then let it be that.
Let it be that.
Let it be that.
There doesn't have to be any
criticizing.
There doesn't have to be your
parental voice coming in your
head saying okay, you've only
played with that once this
summer, let's sell it and get
rid of it.
But if you only play with it
once a summer and it brings you
fun and joy, you still played
with it once that summer.
Then, guess what?
It's not your toy box anymore
and you're not at home.
You don't have to throw the
toys out or donate them off
anymore.
You can keep it.
Yeah, you're right, it's not a
big deal.
Speaker 2: So when you play with
that toy one time in the summer
, it is okay, because it still
gave you pleasure that one time
in the summer.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And so when we think
about our containment device for
materialistic things or
possessions, it is okay to have
them, just not okay to develop a
negative attachment to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean and I'll
give you an example, Because we
went through this and this
popped up for us we have jet
skis and it's been a minute
since we've been on them, but
when we do get on them, we enjoy
it immensely.
I mean, we get out there on the
ocean, we bebop around, play,
do tricks.
Speaker 2: Play with the
dolphins.
Speaker 1: We enjoy it.
It's just that we've found
other things that bring us joy
as well.
So we go in this direction for
a minute with this toy and this
one, for a minute in this toy,
and I don't really remember why
it came up, and I don't remember
if it came up for you or for me
, but at some point it was like
you know, we probably just need
to sell them.
We don't play with them anymore
, we're not using them, we just
need to sell them, get rid of
them.
And I think it was you that
said that, because I was like no
, they're, they're my we bought
them because I wanted them.
I wanted them and, um, I was
like no, those are my toys,
you're not.
You're not.
You can get rid of yours, but
you're not getting rid of mine
you're not taking my toys and we
kind of dug around in it and
that that's what came up is that
we had been taught as children
well, if you're not going to
play with it, then we're going
to declutter, we're going to get
rid of the junk stuff.
You don't play with it every
single day.
Like.
I don't know what the
expectation was when we were
taught that.
I don't know if we were supposed
to play with things every
single day but that's what came
up for us is that we had this,
this little pea-sized thing that
came up about it of okay, well,
we're not playing with it, so
let's just get rid of it I did
the same thing with the harley
yeah, exactly and I even you
know it's probably really funny,
because when you're not in the
proper journey on getting rid of
something, it.
It don't happen very easy, man,
it doesn't.
Speaker 2: I took my Harley over
to Harley and the amount of
money that they offered me for
it was like.
Laughable, laughable it was
Because they have so many bikes,
because nobody's buying
motorcycles right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so they're like.
They made me a stupid offer,
yeah.
Speaker 1: And so I was like,
yeah, no, have a good day, yeah,
and so when that happens, we
just to walk you through what
happens with us.
So he went up, he went to see
what they would give for the
Harley came home, told me about
it.
So then we we immediately sit
down and we're like, okay, what
does that mean?
Why is it happening?
What popped up and we dig
around in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the reality
is I haven't had really a lot
of time to ride.
Speaker 1: No, the reality
that's a cop-out, and whether
we're on the radio or not, it's
not that we haven't had time,
it's that we haven't made time
to ride that because we've been
playing other toys.
Yeah, you're right, we've been
playing with our bowling balls.
We've found a lot of enjoyment
going to the movies.
We found a new place to go to
the movies You're right, that's
been our joy, for right now
We've been doing other things
that are bringing us joy, and
that's just kind of how we roll.
We're all over the place.
I agree we may be doing this
and that, and I mean you just
never know what we're doing.
Speaker 2: I guess cop out's
kind of a heavy word, but
anytime somebody says I don't
have time for something, I call
them so the you always have time
if it's important, but going
through that, understanding that
those journeys and know that
your containment device can get
rid of the negativity and being
okay with having things.
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay,
that's what we're here for.
We're here for adventure.
Speaker 2: We're here for fun,
we're here for experiences,
right, and it's kind of hard to
do that when you just pick up a
rock off the river all the time.
No, sometimes rocks on the
river is.
Keeping across the water is fun
yeah you know.
Speaker 1: But it's okay to have
other devices, it's okay to
have other toys yeah, you know,
one of the things for me that I
came to the realization of, I
really practiced trying to find
my joy.
That doesn't mean that you have
to be doing some big, huge jump
for joy ecstatic thing all the
time either.
Speaker 2: Agreed.
Speaker 1: One of my joys is
taking a nap.
Speaker 2: You know watching
Disney movies.
Speaker 1: One of my joys is
getting on what I call my perch,
which is just set up in my bed
and my little pillows behind me,
and watch a good series or
movie or whatever.
Those are all enjoyable things
as well.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just
sitting vegging out, not doing
anything else.
You left something out.
Speaker 1: What.
Speaker 2: You forgot your
Haagen-Dazs.
When she's on the perch, she
has Haagen-Dazs.
Yes, it is quite yummy that's
kind of the, the summation, I
guess, of the materialistic
stuff, because that's really
it's just that simple.
I mean it's okay to have things
, it's okay to have those
experiences, um, it's okay to
for them to sit in your garage
and collect dust and it's okay
for them to get run every single
day or picked up or whatever.
That is right um it's okay to
allow yourself to have it it is,
it's okay, it's all okay, and
you just have to believe that.
And the really cool part about
it is is when your energy behind
it becomes what it is.
Everybody says I can't afford
it.
We always always live to our
means, and so if you, might not
be able to afford it right at
this moment, but spirit's going
to give you the abundance that
you need.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your needs are
always met.
Speaker 2: Right and don't and
I'm not saying to run out today
and buy everything in the world
that you can buy.
I'm saying to make sure you
align properly and get your
beliefs in line before you do
that.
But it is okay to go buy things
, it's okay to have things.
We do not have to be minimalist
anymore.
No matter of fact, I think for
us we need to set an example of
what it can be like and if you
truly live in that spiritual
flow and that spiritually guided
spot and check in with your own
self and be simple minded with
it, if we can set the example,
all we're going to do is grow
the consciousness to where
everybody's going to 100% be on
board with us growing and
bidding better at this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again
you're feeling your.
The way you feel is is your
guide.
That's right, I mean you know,
if you try to go and buy
something and it's feeling yucky
, stop and ask yourself why.
Because there's some sort of
habitual pattern, some sort of
belief in there that you have
created that is trying to come
up.
I agree, when you don't feel
good, you're not in alignment
with your higher self.
Your higher self is always
holding the vibrational
frequency of every single thing
that you want, desire.
It holds that space.
Speaker 2: Right.
And if you go, like if you go
to go buy a new car, I said, go
go.
If you go to go, go go.
If you go to go, go to go.
If you go to buy a new car and
on the way up there you're
thinking, oh, they're not going
to give it to me, my credit's
too bad, then you're going to
fulfill that prophecy.
Stop yeah and clear that energy
out of the way.
Be open-minded, yeah, and let
it happen as it's supposed to.
Don't humanly push it, don't
humanly get involved with it.
Let the spirit do it.
Now pick out the one you want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it can be
hard.
It can be a challenge.
Especially, we are an instant
gratification society.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: We want it now, I
know, and we want more now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we get to a place
where sometimes we are not
patient yes, and I don't.
Sometimes we are not patient.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: And I don't even like
the word patient, don't even
like to be patient.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not really
.
I think we should change it to
at peace instead of patient.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Be at peace
with it where you are.
Be at peace.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so now we
have went through the bucket for
relationships.
Speaker 1: Thank you.