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Speaker 1: Good morning, Dr
Jeannie.
Good morning we're back on the
show.
We've been off for a couple
weeks.
Speaker 2: Has it been a couple
of weeks?
Speaker 1: I think so.
We didn't do any shows last
week and we were gone, I mean
the week before last, and we
were gone on the cruise for
eight days, seven days.
Speaker 2: No, we did that one
that was like malfunctioning,
where it did half and then shut
off.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right
.
What day was that I?
Speaker 2: don't think it's been
quite a couple of weeks, but
anyway, hey, welcome back guys.
Thanks for listening to the
Spiritual Grind we are back on
the mic today, um, after a
seven-day caribbean cruise has
been.
It was really nice.
Oh, mexico, is it considered
caribbean or is it mexico?
Speaker 1: well, it was a mexico
trio, is what they call it, but
um, they kept calling it the
caribbean, so I don't really
know.
If it's's not the Caribbean, we
need to go there.
Okay, I shall get that planned.
Speaker 2: We can leave next
week.
Speaker 1: You know, and we've
been doing the relationship
series in here and I'm going to
take a break from it this week
Because this cruise may open my
eyes to a couple of things.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: I've never been on a
cruise before and it made me
realize that sometimes we forget
to be human in our spiritual
experience.
Speaker 2: Do tell.
Speaker 1: Like you know, I
guess what brings it to mind is
here I am.
I'm 52 years old.
Speaker 2: Oh my God, You're
what.
I'm old is here, I am.
Speaker 1: I'm 52 years old.
Oh my God, you're old.
Speaker 2: You did not tell the
truth when we got together and
I'm going to need an upgrade.
Just kidding.
Speaker 1: You're older than me,
Anyway.
So we we and I had never been
on a cruise and I think the
reason why I was so focused on
my, my journey and trying to
create things within my journey
I forgot to be a human in it as
of late or in your former life
in my former life I forgot to be
human.
I forgot to have experience in
some in in the fun side of life.
You know where we can.
I mean, I just spent seven days
on a boat.
That was delightful when I'd
heard all these you know,
stories about people getting
seasick and blah, blah, blah,
blah, all this stuff and and I
had zero negative experience.
Um, the only thing I would say
was I would consider even
halfway negative is how they do
the drinks on the boat.
It's hard to get something to
drink around there.
Speaker 2: It's not hard to get
something to drink.
It's just having a variety of
choices.
Speaker 1: Yes, all they had was
Coke products, that's what I
would say on this particular
cruise line.
Yeah, we had a delightful
cruise.
You know, we hit some some nine
foot seas and 49 winds and and
instead of getting seasick, I
enjoyed it and it rocked me to
sleep like a like a 52 year old
baby.
Indeed it was really it was.
It was very delightful.
Speaker 2: It was quite
enjoyable.
Speaker 1: Very peaceful, had no
cell phone service.
Speaker 2: I think what it did
for me was it gave me the
opportunity to you know, in the
semi-retired job that we
currently have, we say a lot of
times we are creating the
concept of a cruise ship on land
for these folks.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Where it is a
relaxing, enjoyable,
entertaining experience, living
in this communal type building,
and I think we do a pretty good
job of it.
And I think we do a pretty good
job of it.
But what it did for me is it
let me experience that concept
from the customer yeah, from the
participant side rather than
from the manager side kind of
environment for seven days where
somebody else worried about
who's scheduled for who, or
worried about, for example.
What brought it to my attention
is when we were not able to
port in Coast of Maya and I knew
in my head that, wow, the
activity department is really
going to have to go into red
alert and do plan B to keep all
2,000 of these residents
entertained for the day, because
the day just got shell-shocked.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I said to myself
F word.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that's not
me.
2,140 people.
Speaker 1: Happened to do that,
and they had to come up with an
extra sea day of activities yes,
and in a matter of, literally,
because we were at port.
I was on the deck when we got to
costa maya and I saw the port
light.
I saw them being green and then
yellow and then, you know, kind
of like the lighthouse light.
They say you know it was
blinking, and when all of a
sudden it all went red.
And then what?
10 minutes later he came on.
The captain came on and said
that the coast of my port had
been closed, and I kind of had
the same thought.
I'm like, oh, what's that bring
for the day today, then?
Because here we are planning to
be at port for 11 hours.
Yeah, and knowing from a
manager's standpoint of running
a similar concept.
Oh, that was my funny bone.
Anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Sorry, a similar
concept yeah, at sea, but having
the enjoyment that I didn't
have to be an active participant
in creating that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was
really it was nice, it was
enjoyable.
It was a good time.
I really, really enjoyed it.
Did I just irritate you?
What did I do?
Did I do something?
Speaker 2: I just feel like you
weren't wanting me to finish
that sentence.
Speaker 1: No, I just bumped my
elbow, I bumped my funny bone,
oh, and it wasn't too funny, but
so we went on.
And then, what is?
About an hour later, they come
up with this activity list and
they have a full day of
activities.
And then all these people have
to jump into action.
Speaker 2: And grumpy people
yeah.
They have to jump into action.
And grumpy people yeah, they
have to somehow make the.
I mean because there was a
handful of people that were
extremely unhappy about the fact
that they didn't get to stop at
port.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: So it's got like a
double whammy.
Speaker 1: Well, and the crew
too.
You got to think about the crew
.
They were looking for a port
day and most of the time they
get some breaks and everybody's
off the ship, right, and so then
they have to call and wake
everybody up, go through the
crew deck and create a list of
stuff for these occupied people,
right, or to occupy the people
on the ship.
And it woke me up a little bit
to understanding that we were, I
was missing part of my life,
and so it's kind of opened doors
for me to look at things a
little differently and living
you know, a little bit more on
the, it's okay for us to enjoy
ourselves, no matter what it is.
You know we don't have to be
all serious all the time yeah,
100 and so that's where I want
to go with the podcast today so
when?
Speaker 2: when do you start
that?
Speaker 1: I'm I'm starting it
now okay, why he has that?
Um, are you?
Are you my best friend?
Yeah, but I want to talk to
people about I mean, don't get
so caught up in the riffraff and
the rigmarole and the
commitment and don't forget to
balance your.
You can have fun and balance
and still work and still be
lighthearted and still have
friends and still have a social
life and go do adventures and
you can.
You can have balance in that.
I think that's where my life,
or what what I recognized on
this boat is.
You know there's a reason why
we get what is it?
10 or 12 weeks a year vacation?
You start using them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 2: For sure.
I mean, that's what they're for
is to stop and unplug from the
day-to-day.
Speaker 1: I think we get so
hyper-focused on our spiritual
world not just us, I'm talking
about just humans in general
that when we are going through
an awakening process we become
so focused on trying to make it
easier we forget to live the
easy.
And you know, like the day we
got back to port, I didn't want
to get off the ship.
Like the day we got back to
port, I didn't want to get off
the ship.
I almost handcuffed myself to
the railing and was going to
refuse to get off because I
didn't want to go back to
reality.
And the key part of that is
it's how I labeled the reality I
made it to, where my journey
was out of balance.
Prior to going on this ship
Prior to going on this ship, I
see, you know, taking one week a
year in 52 weeks is not enough.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't even
think we do it that often.
Speaker 1: Well, this is the
first time since we've been with
this company that we have taken
that many days off in a row.
It's the first time.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: And so the and we we
could have took an extra day or
two if we wanted to.
Speaker 2: And, oh my goodness,
nothing major happened.
The building is still standing.
Speaker 1: I know right, it's
pretty cool.
And so how do we teach people
to create balance within life
and be more fun and lighthearted
within their spiritual journey?
How do we do that, doctor?
Oh, I hear it.
Wait, wait, I have the button
for this.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean it's
just just do it, Like you just
make a decision that you're
gonna not be so serious all the
time and you just do it.
You just make a decision.
Yeah, I mean, I can use you as
an example.
Speaker 1: Okay, what was that?
Speaker 2: That was me releasing
air.
I think y'all call it a burp.
You know like with you you get
very inundated with the work
part of your life and you get
wrapped up in that like a big.
Speaker 1: Banana.
Speaker 2: Burrita.
Banana I like banana better and
you get, and so it's.
It almost like blocks your view
, put your blinders on, so to
speak, to looking at the whole
big picture, and I think that's
the key component.
I see it all the time.
People on, so to speak, to
looking at the whole big picture
, and I think that's the key
component.
I see it all the time.
People are so engulfed in the
day-to-day got to go to work,
got to do the laundry, got to
pay the bills I don't think it's
even just the spiritual
community.
Got to pay the bills.
I don't think it's even just
the spiritual community, I think
it's just as a whole.
People are so engulfed in the
humanness of a task-oriented
mindset that they forget to let
in the spontaneity and the fun
and the unfocus.
Got to stay focused so that I
can achieve a goal, so that I
can be successful, so that I can
have the retirement, and my
goals are this, this and this,
and I got to stay on track and
stay on path.
And you get so wrapped up in
getting it done that you stop
looking for the adventure along
the way and the fun along the
way and the moments where you
can laugh and play and just
unplug for a second from the
robotic lifestyle that sometimes
can happen is what I see.
Speaker 1: I I agree.
Speaker 2: And I think to myself
when I see that, because I know
for me I go around a lot of
times just in my fairytale world
and you made a comment about it
just yesterday on the phone my
wife likes to watch Disney and
that gentleman had some comment
to make about it.
I don't remember what he said,
Are we?
Speaker 1: still six or
something.
I don't remember what he said.
Speaker 2: Right, it was
somewhat of a derogatory comment
, of being childish and I was
like well, try it on for size,
size, and you might feel a
little better.
You know, you know, this is a
gentleman that's not in the best
of health and has to go around
in a moby I mean, he has a, good
, he has a jovial personality
for the most part, but it just
reminded me that so many people
in society are so engulfed in
the robotic motions of the
day-to-day tasks of trying to
accomplish some kind of goal and
what is that?
you know, that's the way we're
talking go to work, let me get a
paycheck, let me pay the bills,
let me do the, let me have my
days off, so I can do my chores
so that I can just go and rinse
and repeat and do it all over
again.
And you get so wrapped up in
that that you forget to say oh
wow it's been 542 weeks since
I've taken an actual vacation
and unplugged and I'm talking
about unplug.
Like I'm not talking about going
on vacation and still having
access to your work email on
your phone and still taking
calls and still answering calls
and even just sitting around
thinking, okay, when I get back
to work, I've got to make sure
and do this, this and this and
this.
Or when you leave to board the
plane or board the ship or go on
vacation, whatever that looks
like you're saying in your head
okay, wait, did I do this?
Did I do this?
Did I do this?
That's not unplugged.
Speaker 1: Right, I agree.
Speaker 2: So when we got on the
ship, we made a conscious
decision to not buy the Wi-Fi
package.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did.
That was 100% on purpose.
Speaker 2: But even in using you
as an example, as you said I
could, there was still a moment
when we got to the first port
where you had cellular service
and you were right back in.
You got sucked briefly back
into checking your email,
checking your voicemail,
checking your phone, that you
went right back into that habit
and I had to actually get
extremely humanly frustrated
with you and say, uh, no, that's
not what this is about.
And so, hello, I know I agree,
I did.
Speaker 1: That's not what this
is about, and so hello.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, and
that's what I'm talking about is
being consciously aware that
we're doing that Right and not
calling out those of us that
don't do it as irresponsible or
aloof.
Or because I get.
I get tagged a lot of times
because, listen, I don't have my
email and all that shit on my
phone.
Nobody has my number.
I don't even know where my
phone is most of the time, but
that's because I choose to live
that way, because I don't want
to be inundated and engulfed by
the nonsense.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And I get you know
comments will be made like being
aloof or being not facing
reality or not being focused or
any of that, and living in the
fairytale world or living
childishly.
And you know what I say to
people who say that Piss off.
Speaker 1: Piss off.
Speaker 2: Piss off.
Speaker 1: I think this has all
come down to teaching, because I
was taught that the world's
never going to give you nothing.
You've got to work for what you
earn no such thing as easy
money.
I was I don't know how many
times I've heard all that stuff
growing up and that's how I was
taught Like, I mean, I started
hauling hay when I was what?
12, just to make money, because
I was from a low income family
and I went through building up
my you know, my work ethic and
my level of commitment, and I,
you know like, when all this
came to my reality the other day
on the boat deck, what I kept
thinking about is is, even back
then, when I was actually making
a ton of money, making a bunch
of money, I didn't do anything
to enjoy it.
You know, you put in this hard
work and dedication, so it's not
about to me, it's not about the
fact of having to, you know,
being dedicated to your work,
doing your job, earning your
money, allowing the world to
give you what you have earned
and deserve.
But what I want to change the
phrase of is you're right,
they're right, the world doesn't
, it doesn't owe you nothing and
the world's not going to give
you anything, but you will give
you something.
Your higher self will give you
what you need.
You're um, you create a balance
within it and then it becomes
an easier journey for and
remember to be lighthearted
through it.
I think that's where my
challenge is, because we're
taught that way.
We're taught that we have to
earn every dollar we make and
fast money.
Easy money is not good.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
All that stuff.
And what came to my thoughts
when I was on the deck was my
gosh.
I've missed a lot of life and I
don't want anybody else to do
that.
And so you know I'd say it's
okay to have a work life, it's
okay to have a fun life, it's
okay to have that personal
commitment to being adventurous
and having fun and keeping your
responsibilities and still
finding the balance within it.
It's about that level of
neutrality to where you can do
anything you want.
Speaker 2: It's okay to have no
responsibility as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: That's the life I
choose.
I want to be responsible for
nothing.
Speaker 1: What about your
listeners out there?
Speaker 2: I'm not responsible
for them.
Speaker 1: You're not, oh, okay.
Speaker 2: Nope, I provide the
frequency and the information,
and what they choose to do with
it is their journey, not mine.
I don't take that on.
Speaker 1: I 100% am on board
with that fact of well.
Let me back up.
So for some people, it's hard
for them to say I don't want to
have any responsibility.
That's a hard thing for some
people and I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Why.
Speaker 1: Because you know
that's giving up control,
because we're taught to control
our reality humanly, especially
when it comes to employment.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about
that for a second.
Okay Shall we.
Yeah, let's.
The concept of control Mm-hmm,
because the simple fact of
thinking that you're giving up
control or that you've lost
control means exactly that you
are in such control that you
have the ability to create an
illusion that you have given up
control or that you are not in
control.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Which then tells you
that you are in complete control
at all times and that you are a
very powerful being within that
.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So you never lose
control or give up control or
never don't have control.
Speaker 1: Hmm.
Speaker 2: Could you hit the
crit get button for me.
Speaker 1: Since I don't get
buttons.
I'm thinking about what you
said, can you phrase it in other
terms, you sure do doing a lot.
That was a whole lot of
doo-doos, mr.
Speaker 2: Pooty Pants.
Yes, mr Poopy Pants.
Speaker 1: Are you the Poopy
Pants?
You used to have the Poopy
Pants.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't poop in
my pants.
Speaker 1: Well, I sure heard
you doo-dooing over there.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you want me
to do a remix of the phrase we
can remix.
Okay, let's begin again.
Okay, so you're a spiritual
being having a human experience.
Agree, disagree, agreed.
Right so the concept of control
.
Right, so the concept of
control.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: You always have and
are in control, that you are not
in control or that you are
losing control or that you must
control it.
For the simple experience of
having that kind of reality, you
have so much power and so much
control that you have the
ability to create a virtual,
holographic experience of not
having control.
Therefore, you are actually
ultimately the ultimate control
king and queen by maintaining a
reality that appears to have no
control, but you have such
self-control that you can hold
back the control and trickle it
in or make a reality appear for
yourself to have absolutely no
control.
A little bit of control,
control in some areas, no
control in other areas, like
turning on a water faucet, but
you're still creating that
virtual reality from a place of
complete and total, powerful
control, because you create your
own reality.
Speaker 1: So you're saying
giving up control is really
controlling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a paradox
Giving up control is actually
you having so much control and
so much power that you have the
ability to create a reality that
makes it appear that you are in
fact giving up your control or
can't get control of a situation
.
Hmm, Interesting Rabbit
sandwich I mean carrot sandwich
people.
Speaker 1: We haven't rabbit.
Speaker 2: No, we don't eat the
rabbit.
Speaker 1: Oh, you said rabbit
sandwich.
And so for me to conceptualize,
what you are saying is putting
yourself into a different
dimension to where your human
experience, you give up the
control which, in turn, is
actually having control, because
you have the control to give up
the control.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not really
a different dimension, it's a
different reality.
But we'll go into that later.
But yes in essence, it's the
subconscious unawareness that
you have the control over your
reality.
When we say you create your
reality, that's what I mean you
literally create your own
reality, by which you utilize
your control, and if you need to
learn and expand and grow from
a reality that says I have
absolutely no control or have no
control over this or over that,
you have the ability to create
that experience by removing the
experience of having control
over whatever area in the life
of Pi that you so choose.
Speaker 1: Okay so.
Speaker 2: Like money or a job
or a relationship.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So when you said
having no control, what area do
you feel like you have no
control over?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's
just it.
It's not about feeling having
no control, it's the feeling of
feeling like that.
We have to keep control and we
are keeping control by creating
our spiritual world in reality,
clearing beliefs constantly.
We're constantly looking at
ourselves to better our reality,
and that is a form of control,
but yet we don't take the time
to um, let control of the
reality become lighthearted and
fun and enjoy the balance of the
reality.
Speaker 2: So what makes you
feel like you have to have
control over anything?
Speaker 1: Well, it's not really
that we have to have control.
It's more about it's kind of
what's bred into me, and
probably a lot of people out
there is trying to control our
reality, trying to be the best
we are at everything that we do.
And that is actually one of the
things that drive me is I like
to be successful and what I view
as successful because I set my
own parameters and I'm
self-managed really well and my
own goals and my own instincts
of those goals is what I follow.
Now, I'm really good at doing
that in a work performance
setting, but when it comes to a
pleasure, you know, uh, having
fun and lightheartedness in our
journey is the part that I have
a hard time struggling of.
Okay, Like at work, I can set a
goal and I and I know the steps
to get there because my
intuition tells me what to do
and I set those is it your
intuition telling you what to do
, or is it?
Speaker 2: no higher past life
experiences that dictate.
Okay, I know that in the past I
did this and I took this step,
so it got me this result.
And you're finishing the puzzle
by doing it that way, humanly
and humanly intervening and
controlling what you think is
controlling the situation, when
I think it's a little of both
and so you're humanly maybe over
controlling and over maybe
overdoing it you know, I think
it's a little both for me and
and clearing that stuff out of
the way is man that goes deep.
Speaker 1: That's a hard,
because my next question for you
.
Speaker 2: If you, if you were
an actual client that I was
working with, my next question
would be well, when you're
talking about that and you're
setting up your work day of,
okay, this is my goal and these
are the steps I know to do to
get there, how does that make
you feel in your emotional
guidance system.
How does it make you feel?
Speaker 1: It makes you feel
like I'm in control of my
reality.
Speaker 2: Makes me feel what is
the emotion?
Speaker 1: that probably secure
and um, a little bit of solace,
and you're going to accomplish
goals, setting goals and so I
would say that for me it creates
a harmony would probably be the
.
The emotion behind it is kind
of that.
Okay, I got this, you know, in
my work, history and my
intuition and guidance, in that
I have set those beliefs in
motion to where I kind of listen
to all of it.
And what was it about that?
That was a doctor, like you
know.
When you're talking to a
psychiatrist and they go and you
say on the third, you say wait
a minute, why are you and me so
you make it sound very easy in
your work life, right?
Speaker 2: why is it not that
easy in your whatever other
section of life?
You called it your pleasure
life or your fun life, fun life.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what
I'm talking about non-work part
of your life that's exactly what
I'm talking about in the
beginning of this podcast is I
realize that I am not creating
that same kind of environment in
my fun side and creating
balance.
I'm just kind of whatever comes
comes and you know, that's why
I mean I liked the fact that you
play into this crew and it was
in.
We had, I had something to look
forward to.
You know, there was a goal in
mind and I don't know how many
times we said 29 days.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I made
the rule that I asked one day
how many days we have left,
because I know he he was
counting down and he said
something like 31 days or
something.
I was like, oh no, that's not
the answer, it was 71 days.
Yeah, it was something
ridiculous and I said I do not
want to hear anything other than
29 days.
Until we get to the actual 29th
day and you're ready to tell me
28 days, I will hear nothing
else.
So you're not allowed to give
me any other number but 29 and
that's okay.
Speaker 1: So I played that game
, yeah, which?
Speaker 2: worked very well for
me because, yeah, whenever I
asked that day and you said 71
days or something like that, I
felt myself melt into this
bucket of.
Speaker 1: Disappointment.
Speaker 2: Yes, because I was so
ready.
Speaker 1: Why is it so far away
?
Speaker 2: Go enjoy some
downtime away from the hustle
and bustle of people and work
and being the person that
everybody looks at and wants all
this shit from, I get tired of
that.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
What does that mean Nothing?
What does that mean Nothing?
What does that mean?
Speaker 2: doctor.
Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor yet.
Speaker 2: Does that mean I need
a new medication?
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
And so this is exactly you're
actually bringing up the point
of where I was when, on that
deck, I realized that I am not
setting goals for my fun life
and letting my intuition and
guidance run me through that.
Setting goals for my fun life
and letting my intuition and
guidance run me through that,
like you know, I kind of go
willy nilly and I I kind of
handle in our relationship.
I kind of handled the business
side and you handle the fun side
and I have not been in track or
on track with you in creating
the fun side of that stuff.
Speaker 2: And that's where I'm
working on getting my parameters
set in the things that I want
to accomplish in my fun side
yeah, I'll agree with that,
because you, you, you say a lot
of times on the weekends you'll
try to plan something and you'll
, you'll make the statement of
had all this stuff planned and
nothing's working out.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
And it happens frequently we
were going to take the motor
home to Daytona Beach and then I
called to get a place at the
campground and it was bike week,
so we couldn't even everything
was booked you couldn't get
anywhere.
And I am not staying at a
campground during bike week
because I hear it gets crazy
over there.
But the realization on the deck
for me to say to myself you
know, why aren't you creating
that same kind of environment in
your fun side is where I'm at
with it and I'm working on
setting on parameters and
clearing some beliefs.
And you know like I remember
one time my Uncle Gary telling
me all you ever want to do is
play, when I was younger, you
can't take life serious.
And so that's been enthralled
and I'm working on clearing.
Speaker 2: I would look at Uncle
Gary and say, yep, you're right
, I'm not taking anything
serious.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I was
raised in a redneck country.
Speaker 2: Nothing serious is
going on around here, folks.
Speaker 1: I was raised in a
redneck state in a redneck area,
and when you're not a serious
redneck and take control of your
reality, you're a loser is how
they look at you, and my uncle,
gary, said that to me that time.
You need to be serious about
life and quit playing.
All the time you know, set your
life up.
This world owes you nothing.
And blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah went on, and that that you
know that business came in my
head of him saying that to me
one time, and and and it stuck,
and so I've been working on
clearing that out of the way and
making sure that I allow myself
to play, to have fun, to create
a place of balance and
adventure, and that's what I'm
working on today and that's why
I wanted to bring it up in this
topic, because, you know, it
makes me wonder how many other
people out there do the same
thing, and are they humble
enough to stop and identify that
?
I mean because I want to sit on
that, or I mean because I want
to sit on that when I was
sitting on that deck and we were
pulling back into Tampa Bay and
the Tampa Bay smell came back
and all that stuff, because, man
, oh, down in the water in
Mexico, it's beautiful yeah, it
is the the bay is such brown,
murky water, it's not not ocean
water.
In my opinion, it's right, it's.
I don't know why it's even
brown.
It smells the way it does, but
it doesn't matter to me.
The the point was is I enjoyed
that cruise wholeheartedly, even
though we missed the port, even
though the drinks were weird.
I still enjoyed it, because you
know why the drinks weren't
weird.
Speaker 2: it's just that we
don't drink water on a regular
basis, necessarily, and we are
Pepsi product people, and so
what they offered was Coke
products.
Speaker 1: Yeah Well, and the
only place you could get water
was at the buffet.
They won't give you water at
the bar.
Speaker 2: I tried once, but
does it matter where it comes
from?
Speaker 1: It was just weird,
you wanted water.
It was just weird to me, it
wasn't very convenient for comes
from.
It was just weird.
You wanted water.
It was just weird to me, it
wasn't very convenient for the
customers.
Speaker 2: Guess what?
You had two bottles of water
sitting in your cabin.
They could have very easily
taken the lid off and drank.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, but
anyway, that's where my light
heart is.
What's that?
Speaker 2: show called where
they debunk.
Speaker 1: Mythbusters.
Speaker 2: Mythbusters Myth
busted.
Speaker 1: They had a metal sign
that would come up and say
busted.
I used to love that show, it
was fun to watch.
So, identifying it and being
humble enough to say you know
what, I have been kind of
screwing that up a little bit up
to say you know what, I have
been kind of screwing that up a
little bit and I'm working on
the, the steps and the beliefs.
You know, like I said, with my
uncle gary, and creating a
pattern, trying to create that
pattern in my life of allowing
myself to create fun and
adventure and setting the goals
for that and creating the steps
and following this I could do at
work, in my, in my fun life or
my fun side of my life that
creates balance.
I want to be able to have that
same intuition and that same
guidance that allows me to be
who I am.
Still.
I hear crickets.
Speaker 2: Okay, I got nothing
there well, I mean, there's not
really much to say.
Journey Journey on dude.
Speaker 1: Journey on Create it.
Speaker 2: Party on Wayne I mean
, I guess the only thing I would
say is sometimes it's even okay
to be out of balance, like you
keep using the word to create
balance and harmony, but that by
itself can trip you up a little
bit.
If you're so staunch in trying
to maintain this balanced
position where you don't have
too much fun or you don't have
too much work, give yourself
permission to just have too much
fun.
Like, get rid of the word
balance sometimes, because even
that can create a very
structured reality.
Okay, I've got to have 50% fun
and I've got to have 50% work,
and right now I've had 49% fun
and only have 1% left, and so
when I laugh at this person's
joke, that's going to use up my
last 1%, and then the rest of
the month I have to be only work
and business minded and have no
more fun points left, and and
so just be careful, because that
can trip you up as well.
Allow yourself to be unbalanced
sometimes, because wanting to
maintain balance, if it has a
wonky definition, can trip you
up as well.
Don't be is not constant.
You have to have flow, yeah,
which sometimes will take the
balance.
So I envision this that little
weight, you know that, um,
apothecary weight scale and and
each side is is equally weighted
so that it never moves that's
not how life is.
That's not even how your
physical body functions yeah
even in your physical body, your
chemistry, your hormones.
Sometimes this one will be
elevated and this one will not,
and then other times, depending
on what you need physically in
your body, the chemical a will
decrease and chemical b will
increase, and so the balance
ability.
I feel the need to clarify this
.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Balance, ability or
the word balance, and what that
actually is intended to mean is
not this static, consistent,
both sides of the scale always
at the middle place.
Yeah, that, the two mechanisms
or the two components or the
multiple components within a
mechanism or within whatever
you're doing, have the ability
to be malleable or movable and
can fluctuate and move within
that and move within that.
It's more of almost like an
adaptability, because if you
always are just trying to
maintain this staunch balance,
where your emotion is constantly
neutral and you don't listen,
you will find yourself back in
that robotic place of just
wanting to maintain this
straight line of balance, and
that's not what balance is okay
balance is, you know, finding
the joy and the fun and
experiencing the contrast it's
not so fun so that you can
better identify what you want
that moment to really look like.
So that when you go and you
experience that moment again,
you can say to yourself okay,
I've come to a fork in the road.
I've been here before, I
recognize it's familiar.
But now, now that I had the
previous experience experience,
I do remember that I went left
in this fork in the road and I
didn't enjoy the aspects of it
quite as much.
So you know what, this time,
even though going right is
unknown and a little bit scary,
rather than going left because
it's familiar, I know that I
didn't enjoy it as much I'm
going to go ahead and I'm going
to jump off and go right that if
you were trying to stay
staunchly balanced, you wouldn't
allow yourself to go right.
Speaker 1: I am totally
understanding and agree with
what you're saying Because I
look at it the scale kind of
like a teeter-totter.
Agree with what you're saying
because I look at it the the
scale kind of like a
teeter-totter.
When you put two 200 pound
people on one of one side of the
teeter-totter one other side of
the teeter-totter, you can go
up and down, you can still flow.
There's still a flow in it.
Speaker 2: But if you need to,
you can balance but if you put a
200 pound person on one end and
150 pound person on the other,
and the 200 pound person gets on
second and the 200 pound person
gets on second and the 150
pound person gets flung up in
the air, it is some funny shit
it is.
Speaker 1: I agree we used to do
it on purpose, or when the 200
pound person falls off and then
the other jumps off on purpose
and yeah, and the other one goes
flying the other one goes
flying.
Yeah, we used to do that all the
time that's some good laughs,
honestly and the reality is, on
a teeter-totter is a 200 pound
person and 150 pound person can
still balance the teeter-totter,
and that is where my analogy of
the situation is for me and
where I'm trying to go in a
direction of more freedom, in
fun and freedom and experience
and adventure and allowing my
giving myself the permission to
be more of that kind of person.
And that's what I'm working on
clearing beliefs for them.
And you know like cause there's
many of them.
You know there, there's many of
them that I've been really
checking in with since I was on
that deck that morning and
trying to figure out where in my
life did I turn?
Because I used to be.
Everybody talked about me.
I was that kid that bounced
around.
I was always laughing.
I remember my teacher telling
my dad one time in one of my
parent-teacher conferences that
he's got to learn to be a little
serious every now and then.
Because, I was always cracking
jokes.
I was making everybody laugh.
I was the class clown as they
would call you.
Speaker 2: You can still get
stuff done and be that.
Speaker 1: Right, and here's
another thing that popped in my
head.
On that deck the other day was,
there was this kid I'm going to
call him Randy who was in high
school.
He was the epitome of
irresponsibility, according to
everybody else's perception.
You know he got caught smoking
weed behind the gym.
He, you know he got suspended
multiple times because he acted
up, didn't do homework, blah,
blah, blah, blah blah.
But he was a really fun guy to
be around, right.
And I remember one time when he
got in trouble in the hallway
and our principal said, looked
him dead in the eye and said you
know, your life is going to be
so rough if you don't straighten
up.
And he said my life's going to
be as fun as I allow it to be.
And he, of course he got in
trouble for backtalking back to
the principal and blah blah,
blah, blah.
You know what he is now.
He's a multimillionaire, of
course, and still the same guy.
Yeah, um, and we, you know,
like I, I went to, uh, my old
high school and I stopped by and
I seen the sign as I went by,
because I'm not gonna say his
last name, but there was this
thing that said his last name
oil company and supply.
I was like, hmm, and it brought
to my reality, is that is that
him?
And so I turn around on the
highway and I turn and go back
and I pull in and, sure enough,
there he is still, the spitting
image of what he looked like in
high school, yeah, and I was
like, well, hey, randy what is?
going on.
Is this yours?
I mean, it was this huge
company.
He was in the last little suit
and he was sitting there playing
with legos on his desk.
He wasn't creating a lego
structure, yeah, and I was like,
wow, what are you doing now?
And he had started doing oil
pipe supply and then ended up in
the oil business and you know,
he just he said, I just continue
to follow my adventurous
thoughts yeah, that's exactly
what you know, because that's
what I keep putting out there.
Speaker 2: If you continue to
follow the next piece of joy or
excitement, you'll get there
step by step by step by step.
And I actually asked him being
serious or being responsible,
piss off, he said.
Send that out the window.
Speaker 1: I said so you know
what kind of you know what are
you doing next?
What's after this?
And he said nope, this is it
for me.
And he said I'm just going to
sit here and play and enjoy life
and work three days a week and
still control my company, but
I'm going to go have some fun.
And that's what he does.
I mean, he's got a pilot's
license.
We went to his house.
He had this huge mansion and
you know what?
He created a basement and his
entire basement was nothing but
stuff for him to play around
with.
It was booze, ball tables,
movie theater, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah this whole sabang.
Speaker 2: And so he wasn't
living a life of I can have this
or that, I can have it all, I
can have this and that.
Speaker 1: Right.
He said I live how did he put
it that day.
I think I live without
restrictions of thought.
Something he said, something to
that extent.
And then of course it was kind
of cool to see him and hang out
a little bit and listen to him,
but it didn't really absorb into
me.
When I created my business and
I created my company I was being
too serious because that belief
of being taught when I was a
young kid by one of my uncles of
you know was stuck in and
embedded in there, braided right
into my hair.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was.
I'm working on removing that.
That's what I'm working on.
That's what I'm trying to say.
I'm wanting you to quit judging
me.
No, that's what I'm saying I'm
working on.
That's why it's in my reality
is because I want to be that un.
Speaker 2: Irresponsible person.
Speaker 1: The unrestricted
thought.
Speaker 2: I think that was a
good way for him to.
I challenge you to be
irresponsible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's you know
.
I want to get to that point of.
Speaker 2: Never face reality
and be completely irresponsible.
And see what happens.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe I'll get
there.
I'm trying, that's what I'm
doing.
I'm working on that.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm never
facing reality and I'm always
irresponsible.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess you
create balance for me, but
anyway I feel complete, do you
feel?
Complete, and I hope they got
something out of this for me.
I always feel complete.
Do you feel complete?
And I hope they got something
out of this for me because this
podcast was more about me, I
think, than anybody, and I I
hope that somebody got something
out of it.
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did so you feel complete,
somebody did somewhere all right
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