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Speaker 2: Thank you, hey, dr.
Jenny, good morning.
Speaker 1: Good morning.
Speaker 2: Guess what, what?
We're back in studio.
Speaker 1: My favorite place to
be.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the
spiritual ground everybody.
I hope you've been enjoying the
podcast and understanding, or
helping get a better
understanding of a spiritual
life and the daily things that
we all go through, and maybe
some little tip here and there
will help out.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 2: For sure, for sure,
man, for sure, for sure,
proposure man.
Speaker 1: Proposure.
Speaker 2: So I got asked this
question yesterday and I've been
thinking about it.
I got asked yesterday what do
we use to assist in changing our
energy?
When we have a little bit of a
human day going on, what do we
do?
How do we change our energy for
the day?
Did you drop something?
Speaker 1: Well, kind of I was
picking up this big, beautiful
ball to hold.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good
example.
Actually, you have to ask a
question I got asked yesterday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I, we
use different, a lot of
different modalities and
techniques and tools.
Yeah, it just depends, and I
don't think that they're static
and consistent it changes.
Speaker 2: I agree, you know, I
think there's multiple things
that I know I do that can help
keep me out of a human moment
and more of a spiritually guided
one, like, for example, a lot
of times I'll just sit and dwell
and figure out why is this in
my reality, and that kind of
makes you feel better and
sometimes, like I used to have
this habit, I would go work in
the shop.
I would just take myself out of
the situation and go do
something different.
I personally find a whole lot
of pleasure out of getting deep
into the moment of just creating
something, right To where it
kind of takes your human mind
away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it
doesn't really matter what it is
.
Yeah, I mean it doesn't really
matter what it is.
The whole point of it is just
aligning with that frequency,
that higher vibrational
frequency that we, I guess, in
human terms, say.
Speaker 2: What did you say?
Higher vibrational what?
Speaker 1: Frequency.
Frequency Higher vibr,
vibration frequency.
That's the point of it.
And so when we say, you know
finding your highest joy in
every moment, big or small, it
doesn't matter what it is,
whatever works for you.
Speaker 2: What brought the
question up is I've been
teaching the Power Thought
School.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I have quite a
few people that have really
attended there all the 16 weeks
so far.
I got one week left, but she
came to me.
She's, like you, always seem to
be in a good mood.
I'm like, well, that's not
really true, that's just your
perception.
But I do stay pretty positive
and pretty higher vibrational
energy A lot of the time.
There are times that things
affect me and she said, well,
what do you do to get over it?
And I told her I'm like you
know, I try to find out why is
it bugging me, and then I'll try
to change the energy behind it
or the definition of it, you
know of why is it bugging me and
why is it in my reality.
And and realize that you know,
like you, like you have taught
me many, many times, this life
is not happening to me, it's
happening for me.
I was going to figure out what
is it that I have to?
Speaker 1: see, right, I mean,
what is it that I have to see?
Right, I mean, life has no
meaning until we define it and
give it meaning.
Yes, that's the truth about it.
Yes, and I teach that often
it's you and your beliefs and
your patterns and your programs
that create a perspective that
then creates a meaning of a
situation, circumstance, event
or person.
Yeah, and if you're not
enjoying where you're at, what
you're doing, who you're
interacting with, what beliefs
do you have in place that are
creating the perspective about
where you're at and what you're
doing or preventing you from
changing your reality?
And we just had this
conversation.
I was sitting in contemplation
before a podcast to get some
clear understanding for myself,
because I find myself today not
really wanting to go to work and
being a little agitated about
that and being kind of bored
with reality that I've created,
okay, and so I was contemplating
what purpose is it serving?
What am I not seeing?
How am I viewing it?
What perspective am I coming
from?
And or what beliefs do I have
in place that may be preventing
me from moving into and aligning
with a reality that I more
prefer?
Those are the questions that I
ask myself, and so I think the
key is.
One of the keys is becoming
aware that you're feeling
something that you don't
necessarily prefer.
Deciding that you want't
necessarily prefer yeah,
deciding that you want to feel
something different, and then
digging around in it and finding
out what perspective am I
viewing it from, which consists
of looking at your beliefs.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Looking at your
definitions and seeing.
Looking at your definitions and
seeing.
Is it because I have a
definition that is causing me to
see it in one way versus
another?
Is it that it is a contractual
kind of agreement with my higher
self that I'm going to
experience this fully until I
get some concept or I get
whatever was intended for me to
get out of it and I might allow
myself to see that?
You know, just really exploring
what the purpose is.
Speaker 2: You know, that's kind
of the way I do it too, but you
know, I kind of look at it as a
Twinkie pack.
Speaker 1: Oh God, Okay, do tell
.
Speaker 2: You open the package
and you grab the right Twinkie
or the left Twinkie first.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: And you have, like
you said, you make yourself
aware.
Okay, so I have these two
Twinkies in front of me.
One of them is going to make me
very happy, one of them is just
going to be okay.
And now I'm going to figure out
which Twinkie it is.
Is it the right Twinkie or the
left Twinkie?
Because you know they're made
in two different factories and
it's shipped and put together.
No, they're not Uh-huh, the
right Twinkie is always made
different.
No Uh-huh, don't believe me,
just ask me and I'll tell you.
But identifying what is it in
the Twinkies, I need one of
those Twinkies that can change
my day into a better feeling
place, and this is what I told
her.
Speaker 1: No wonder your
pockets look so full all the
time you carry around.
Speaker 2: Twinkies yeah, every
now and then I get a triple pack
of Twinkies.
What?
Speaker 1: You get the bonus.
Speaker 2: Twinkie in the pack.
You know you buy two, get one
free.
Twinkie in the pack.
You know you buy two, get one
free.
But that's what I described to
her was is you.
You have to take it from a
different perspective and
understand that, like you said,
be aware of what it is,
understand that this life is
happening for us, not to us, and
then stop and say which twinkie
am I going to grab today?
Do I want to grab the left
Twinkie, where I'm going to stay
dwelling in it and continue to
feel like my vibrational level
is not in a good place, or am I
going to grab the right Twinkie
and change my perspective?
Speaker 1: Or am I going to grab
no Twinkies?
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Twinkies are open in
front of you.
Speaker 2: That's not an option.
Speaker 1: Oh, it most
definitely is an option.
I don't like Twinkies.
I would grab neither Twinkie.
They're gross, I just think
it's funny.
And they feel funny in your
mouth.
Speaker 2: They used to be a lot
better.
They used to have a lot more
cream in them.
They were bigger and then they
got chinsy and made them smaller
.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's
just weird.
Like the top coat of a Twinkie
is like soft and weird.
And then this weird chewy
sponginess with this.
That cream is hideous, Like
it's just gross.
Twinkies are gross and they
come up with the idea of frying
them.
That makes it even worse.
Speaker 2: A fried Twinkies are
gross and they come up with the
idea of frying them.
That makes it even worse.
A fried Twinkie, Deep-fried
Twinkies, yeah they used to do
that to.
Texas State Fair a lot.
Speaker 1: It's like a big
sponge for just grease.
Just turn the grease up and
drink it.
Speaker 2: So what I mean by
looking at a pack of Twinkies is
now you have a choice.
You decided to open the Twinkie
package.
That is being aware.
Speaker 1: I like Twix better.
Speaker 2: Twix Do you like to
ride Twix or not?
Twix.
Speaker 1: Depends on the day.
Speaker 2: It's a choice.
Speaker 1: It is always a choice
.
Speaker 2: You know, those are
made in different factories too.
Speaker 1: So I hear.
Speaker 2: That's what they said
on the commercial and I believe
them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you know, when we
open the Twinkie Pack, that is
kind of a sign of for me
becoming aware of, hey,
something ain't right in this
thought or in this day or in
this energy.
And so I open the Twinkies and
I have a choice Do I want to
dive into the history of it and
kind of figure out what it is
and maybe keep yourself in that
vibrational spot, which
sometimes we need to do that, or
do I grab the right Twinkie and
I just change the way it makes
me feel for this moment, until I
can go eat the left Twinkie
Crickets.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's your
process.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just kind
of given an analogy of one way
of looking at it.
Yeah, and so what is it that
the conversation went to?
Once you identify it, what do
you do with it?
Where do you go?
How do you change to make
yourself feel better?
Speaker 1: I mean, it just
depends on the person.
It depends really on what your
tool bag has in it.
That is your process.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I can give you what I
do, which kind of already did,
but it's very individualized
process.
If in fact you need a process,
yeah.
Every.
So I mean, do you really?
I guess what a rabbit hole is.
The fact that you think you
need a process is, in fact, a
belief in and of itself.
You love that statement In and
of itself baby yeah.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen,
you may pick up your copy of In
and of Itself at any local
library, newsstand or Barnes and
Noble, I think.
It's Books A Million now.
Books A Million?
No, they're still both.
Speaker 1: They have two
different stories.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's two
different stories, oh wow.
Speaker 1: I thought that one
bought the other one out and I
thought Barnes Noble was no
longer.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't think
so.
Oh, I didn't realize it was two
different stories, maybe, I
mean, maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know,
but maybe I don't know, maybe,
maybe we just don't know, maybe
we just don't know Maybe we're
in the I don't know dimension.
Speaker 2: But you're right, the
heaven, heaven process is, is,
is is a belief in itself.
Right, because there are
situations.
Speaker 1: For me, for example,
on certain topics, I don't have
to have a process, I just decide
I want it to be different.
Poof, it's different, it is.
It just happens in the blink of
an eye.
Because I've put no definition
on that it's got to take a long
time, or that I've got to try to
do something, or that I've got
to have some 10, 12 step
sequence of events to make it
okay for it to be something
different.
So having the process in and of
itself is a perspective, a
viewpoint, a belief, but first
you got to identify what the
thing is.
Speaker 2: What is the thing?
Speaker 1: And if it's just,
changing your outlook so that
you are in a better mood, then
the formula is very easy you are
finding things along your path
that make you feel better.
Really, it's just really black
and white, and whatever those
things are.
If it's sitting here holding a
big, beautiful sphere of quartz,
then do that for however long
it feels good.
If it's drinking a nice cup of
coffee with lots of chocolate in
it, do that.
If it's sitting reading, or if
it's going on a walk or going
back to bed, for God's sakes, do
those things.
Meditation there's many, many,
many and and modalities out
there.
You just have to figure out
what is aligned with your
frequency and what feels good to
you yeah nobody, no one person
can tell you, not even me, who's
the doctor.
Oh, I can't tell you what works
for you.
I can't say okay, go home and
do this and that and spit,
spultch, you'll be fixed.
And I think sometimes society
gives doctors too much clout and
goes to them as though there's
some Wizard of Oz guru that is
all-knowing and then follows to
a T something the doctor said.
No matter what kind of doctor
it is whether it's modern
medicine, chiropractic,
metaphysician such as myself you
go to the doctor thinking
they're going to know exactly
what your blueprint of frequency
needs.
You follow it to a T only to
find out that it doesn't work.
Or it doesn't work like you
thought it would, or it's just
not quite there.
I mean that's because nobody
knows you better than you.
How long have you been with you
?
Speaker 2: All my life Right
yeah you on my life, right?
Speaker 1: yeah, that doctor may
have only been with you.
You know part of your life, 30
minutes one time a year, and so
I mean you gotta figure it out
you gotta try.
the thing is don't be afraid to
try different things right?
You're not to know if the shoe
fits if you don't go to the
store and try them on, and
you're not going to know which
shoe you like based on how it
feels, what it looks like, if
you don't go try it on and look
at it on your foot.
Same thing with the techniques
of how to deal with the
emotional guidance system and
how to get yourself from where
you are to where you want to go.
Speaker 2: Right.
You see, one of the things that
I teach in the power of thought
school and why she's bringing
this question up is I taught
them that positive mindset is a
choice and being a positive
within everything is a choice to
do.
And she was like how do you
just choose to be positive?
Well, it's not so much that you
choose to be positive, it's
just that you choose to become
aware of what it is to make a
different way.
It's like more of a choice to
accept it the way it is and then
go into your own process by
which to do it.
You, you know and you also
brought up another good topic in
that same thing because I I
teach this constantly, because
everybody's been taught all
their life that going to the
doctor has all they have all the
answers right and you know
they're.
They are the law, you know they
, what they say is the truth,
and nobody ever stops to think
for one minute that this doctor
has been taught out of books
that somebody wrote.
Speaker 1: Right.
And it's not the doctor that's
treating you.
That wrote the book.
Speaker 2: Right and things
change and evolute and health
care is an option.
It is a choice to understand
and follow what your doctor says
, or follow what your body says,
or whatever that is.
But you said it once one day
and it kind of blew my mind.
That's something I never
thought of was a textbook, a
medical textbook is just average
.
A textbook, a medical textbook,
is just average.
It's just about the averages of
things and the chances of
things that have happened in
historical studies that they put
into this textbook.
It does not mean that it
absolutely is this way.
Speaker 1: Right.
It's not the blueprint for
every single human.
It can't be Right, because
every single human has a
different blueprint, just as
unique as the thumbprint right
right and it, and it doesn't
matter whether you're talking
about spiritual practice, right
um physical reactions to the
different things that are in
your bubble, you know right, you
might wash with this soap, I'm
fine.
Speaker 2: If you wash with the
same soap, you get a rash right
I mean, it's all so
individualized it is totally and
that's, I think, where modern
medicine misses it just a hair
you know because you're, you're
100 right, and here's a good
example that I see all the time.
That's why I said it like
everybody says what is the
perfect blood pressure?
Speaker 1: like 110 over 70 yep,
we just had this go on
yesterday talking about oh my
god, her heart rate was 160, oh
my god.
Reading the machine and not
coordinating with the body the
symptoms is so just not the way
to go about it.
That machine could be
malfunctioning.
The person's normal heart rate
could be 120.
Yeah, that could be their norm,
right?
And so if you're talking about
a normal heart rate of 120,
because that's how their body
likes to be, then 160 is not a
huge extravagant jump right.
Right, I, I can.
I can speak for myself that
before I had my pacemaker, I was
one of those people my
metabolism was just extremely
fast.
I can eat even now anything I
want to eat.
Never gain any weight yeah and
my heart rate.
My body likes my heart rate to
be faster, even with the
pacemaker yeah, no right,
because he turned it up like one
something right.
We go to the doctor and I get
checked and I'm like you've got
it set too low.
I need more right because my
body likes to live in the 100s.
I feel best when my heart rate
is between 100 and 105.
That's just how fast my
frequency vibrates.
Speaker 2: Remember, that's what
your pacemaker is.
Speaker 1: When I'm set at like
a robot, I feel like a robot.
Speaker 2: Like those robots
when they plug you in and check
all your mechanical.
Speaker 1: When I'm set at like
60 or 70, man, you have no
energy.
Speaker 2: I've experienced that
, I've seen that.
Speaker 1: I have no energy.
Speaker 2: I don't do well.
Speaker 1: Once I hit about 80,
then I start feeling life come
back into me and then I feel
best when I'm like, like I said,
104 to 111s, 110, 108, I feel
rejuvenated and I feel good.
Speaker 2: You know, this exact
conversation is why I say what I
said to this lady.
But in your example, you know
you're talking about the
pacemaker.
A lot of people don't
understand that a pacemaker.
When you have a pacemaker, it
controls the pace of your heart.
That's why it's called a
pacemaker.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And it is designed to
where it only raises your heart
rate when it feels the motion
of exercise or walking or moving
.
When it feels the motion of
exercise or walking or moving,
and so if you're sitting still
and perhaps doing a bicycle on
your tail, it's not going to
raise your heart rate, or when
you're like that time that you
were walking up the stairs.
Speaker 1: Wait, what are you
doing with your tail and why do
you have a tail?
Speaker 2: What are you talking
about?
You said when you're doing a
bicycle on your tail, when
you're sitting on your tail end,
do you have a tail?
What are you?
Talking about you said when
you're doing a bicycle on your
tail when you're sitting on your
tail, in when you're sitting on
your butt and you're working a
bicycle.
Speaker 1: If it's not picking
up that motion, it's not going
to raise your heart rate um, I
mean it, it will, because the
the like this is going in a
weird anyway, but it doesn't
matter, that doesn't really
matter it will raise your heart
rate, but you got to understand
the component and how it works
in the body, and I mean it's not
necessary to really get into
that.
This is not a pacemaker podcast
.
Yeah, that's not what it's
about.
Speaker 2: But going back to it
is I brought up the example
about the averages and the
choice and stuff because when I
was in ncaa, when I would go for
my physical you know, my heart,
I mean, my blood pressure was
92 over 60.
That was my norm.
That I mean for 18 freaking
years right that was my norm.
And when, like the last couple
of years, they're like oh my god
, you have, you have low blood
pressure, and I, I'm like Based
on statistical data.
The.
Speaker 1: American Heart
Association.
Speaker 2: Yeah, omg, you have
low blood pressure.
Speaker 1: We've evaluated
10,001 patients and the average
mean of blood pressure is 120
over 80.
That's the perfect number, and
if you're anything under or over
that, oh my God.
Speaker 2: Here, take this pill.
They sent me for a stress test,
like the last three or four
years.
I was doing it and I had to go
to stress test to make sure my
heart, my blood pressure and
heart rate would go up and all
that other stuff.
And and the doctor's like I
don't understand what they're
doing because your record showed
that this is your baseline,
this is your baseline.
This is where what you are and
you've been doing this for so
many years.
I haven't seen you fall on the
field yet, and so there he was,
like, anyway, he freed me of it.
But it brings to my reality the
thought of yes, when you
identify those things in your
life, um doesn't mean you, it's
a cookie cutter thing, right,
because, like I told you
yesterday, I can sit here and
tell you what I do, but if it's
not your norm, it's not going to
work for you.
Speaker 1: So I guess my
question would be for the
benefit of our listeners how do
you know if it's your norm?
Speaker 2: That's a good
question.
I just have a I don't know what
my norm is actually.
I mean, you know what your norm
?
Speaker 1: is.
But how do you know If somebody
says, you know, like if you say
I'm experiencing this and I'm
trying to figure out how I want
to navigate that Right, and
somebody says, well, I do this,
this and this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What do you do with?
That was the alien side of me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was your
TikTok.
Speaker 1: You take those three
things that this person has
offered forth to you.
How do you know?
Speaker 2: Right, and you really
don't because I know.
I myself.
I don't really know what my
norm is on certain things,
because I have I'm trying to
take you in a certain direction.
What I do know is there are
certain things that I don't like
the way they feel.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I
was digging for, and so when I
get to that point of something,
I do not like to be angry
anymore.
Because of historical events,
I've changed beliefs on things
and I don't like to get mad.
Why I'll experience the moment
and I'll try to raise my
vibration off of anger.
Why I'll experience the moment
and I'll try to raise my
vibration off of anger.
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Because I just don't.
It doesn't.
Anger is an emotion for me that
can allow my human to kick in
too much, and so I will be in
the moment, and then I'm going
to figure out a way to remove
myself from that on the ladder
by raising my vibration.
Speaker 1: Because it doesn't
feel good.
Because it doesn't feel good.
Speaker 2: Because it doesn't
feel good.
Speaker 1: right, that's what I
was trying to get at.
It goes if all of this, all the
topics, fall back to using the
emotional guidance system and
how you feel.
Speaker 2: And the ladder.
Speaker 1: That is the.
That's the important piece.
Speaker 2: So if somebody says
to you well, I tried this, this
and this.
Speaker 1: You take those three
items and ask yourself okay,
when I think about doing this,
how does it make me feel?
Eh, not much of anything.
Well, okay, let's take the B,
the second choice.
How does that make me feel if I
think about doing it?
I hate that.
That feels awful.
Then you know it's not that one
.
If you take the third one and
you check in with it the same
way and you're like I could see
where that feels kind of maybe,
a maybe, then go and try it and
see if you get an actual yeah,
that feels good, I like it, or
no, that don't fit either,
because if it's a maybe, then
it's just simply because you
can't really conceptualize what
it truly would feel like to do
it.
So then go do it or have it, or
get it, or and try it and try
it on and see does it fit, Does
it not?
And if it does and it makes you
feel good, then do it until it
doesn't, Right.
If it doesn't, then take all
three options and file 13 of
them and move on and and give it
no further meaning.
Speaker 2: Right, you know
that's uh, it's kind of a good
analogy for me to make a better
understanding of things, because
we're like like this is one
thing that just popped in my
head.
A scenario is when we go
shopping at Christmas time and
we go to the mall, I have to
have a Starbucks because, you
know, I go to the Starbucks
because I enjoy that, because it
brought back some happy times
when the kids were young and
going to the mall and shopping,
and I used to give my son a
Starbucks and he would go
running around the mall like a
crazy man during the mall, and
so it gives me a place to go to
that it feels better.
Speaker 1: That's right, because
I really don't enjoy shopping,
so that's feels better.
That's right, because I really
don't enjoy shopping that much,
so that's a technique.
It's a technique on pulling
those memories of past events
forward to find the feel better
frequency and vibration of that
memory, and that's one of the
techniques that you can use that
you can use.
If there's a memory or something
from the past that you can pull
from to do, that brings back
the frequency of that moment in
time and it raises your
vibration because it gives you
feel-good feelings, then do that
.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, and
that's kind of where I was going
with.
That is, I do that kind of
stuff and I never identified it
until you said something to me a
couple of years ago.
I didn't identify it as why I
did it and that's what we do
naturally as humans is we will
go through these processes and
we'll actually jump into doing
our processes and don't even
realize we do it, because it is
a habit.
Speaker 1: Right.
And when you naturally will go
towards the thing that feels
better.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And I teach this in
my energy class.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know there's
different.
I teach a class here where
we're at about the energy,
chinese medicine meridians, how
to work with your energy, while
you teach a class on how to work
with the mind, to have a whole,
complete being and experience.
And so in the energy class I
teach that.
Speaker 2: Um, I just lost my
thought well, you know that's
okay, because I can tell you
that what I was telling her was
and it'll come back in just a
minute was is you're probably
working the process and you're
not identifying it, because it's
a habit and our subconscious
mind has a tendency to go to the
path of least resistance and do
what it knows.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, so in
the energy class, one of the big
energy movers is taking your
flat palm of your hand and
putting it across your forehead
and that will help move a shit
ton of energy when it is kind of
stuck and representative by
maybe like a little stale
headache or some sinus stuff or
you know, just feeling
overwhelmed or whatever, putting
your hand there to move energy
around.
Right, and I'll I'll.
One of the things I'll bring to
their awareness when I'm doing
a class is how many times now
that you know that is what that
is and that's what you're doing,
how many times do you sit with
your hand on your forehead when
you don't quite feel right?
Yeah, be it stress, be it a
head cold, be it just just kind
of energetically declined a
little bit, I mean, we all do it
naturally, yeah, even when
you're talking about working
with energy.
So same premise You're going to
do things that feel good
naturally.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: You just don't know
you're doing them.
Speaker 2: And is it going to be
based off historical?
What made you feel good
previously in the same situation
?
It can be, but it can also just
be, because it's ingrained in in
your overall blueprint I agree,
you know, and that's where, uh,
we, we get into a habitual
moment when the brain goes into
that subconscious easy thought
and goes from point a to point b
.
If you have done this energy
session before and it made you
feel better, and they're, like
you know, putting your hand on
your forehead, their brains
would automatically take you
there.
So you teach yourself a habit.
And that's what I told her was
is you have to teach yourself a
new habit that creates a
different environment so you can
free up the energy to identify
the issues.
When you're struggling with
identifying what's making you
feel bad, right, and she said
because a lot of people don't
actually back up, because a lot
of people don't realize that the
, the brain does that, just like
water or electric and um so
he's got something wrong with
his contact and so he's Popeye
in it right this minute with one
eye closed and he's got
something in his eye, so he
looks like Popeye right this
minute and trying to focus.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about
why we brought that into our
reality, literally and
symbolically.
Is there something he's not
seeing?
Is there something that is
challenging to look at for
himself, that the body is
bringing up for him as a
representation of something he
needs to look at and is not
looking at?
Maybe You've got to look at the
symbology of it that did not
feel good it didn't look like it
felt good, but it was funny, it
was so weird.
It was like suddenly something
was in my eye yeah, so I mean,
even that is communication from
the body.
Why did you create that
something that you're ready to
look at, but not allowing
yourself to look at Something
that you're not seeing?
Energy that's built up there.
Maybe you need to do a little
bit of energy work.
Speaker 2: Camera one camera two
.
Camera one, camera two.
Speaker 1: Tell me which is
better, one or two?
Speaker 2: One or two Probably.
Speaker 1: It's annoying to go
to the eye doctor and have them
do that, especially when they do
that little trick, where they
are exactly the same.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you're like oh my
.
Speaker 2: God, they look the
same.
Speaker 1: They look the same.
Is that the wrong answer?
Oh my God, there's something
wrong with me.
Is it supposed to look
different?
Oh my God, my eyes are broken.
Speaker 2: It's supposed to look
different and I'm gonna give
the wrong answer.
Speaker 1: And finally, I'll
just break down Under the sweat
and I'll be like listen, I don't
know if I'm broken or not, but
they look exactly the same Did I
get the answer right or wrong.
Speaker 2: This is not a test.
That's what he said.
I'll be like those look the
same, yeah, so I guess I flunked
this test.
Well, anyway.
So the, the communication kind
of continues with ourselves as
we identify the habits and the
we start doing those things,
start doing the things that we
have done historically and
changing the way.
If we don't like the result of
what we've done historically,
then we have to look at the
process by which we're doing it
and identify a new way.
You know, like you, putting
your hand on your forehead,
you're teaching people to work
energy.
I'm teaching people to identify
thought differently, and when
those two things come together
and when you get good and
practiced at it, you can go
right into auto mode.
Speaker 1: Right, it takes no
time.
No time at all Time doesn't
exist actually Rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We create the time
through our definitions of what
we think, the amount of time it
should take to do option A or
option B, or whatever the
Englishman invented the clock
the time, I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I wanted to say that.
Speaker 1: Englishmen yeah, I
don't know who are they.
Speaker 2: You know those people
.
You know those people.
Speaker 1: Versus the Spanishmen
.
Speaker 2: I don't know who did.
I just know the Mayans had a
calendar and they didn't have a
clock.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: So time was actually
created by kind of the all.
That is Because without time
you can't really experience
things linearly, and if we go
into a reality where we know
that everything is happening
simultaneously, it takes away
from the authenticity of
experiencing one thing at a time
, of the human experience On a
timeline.
Yeah, okay, so it was actually
created by the all, that is for
the purpose of having a very
Human experience.
Linear experience Linear.
Speaker 2: Okay, that way you
don't just randomly jump from
dimension to dimension.
Maybe you do.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a
different experience if you know
that you can do that, versus if
you think you can't.
Right, you're going to perceive
it differently.
Very good and the outcome of
the experience would be much
different.
I'll give you an example.
Okay, you practice all the time
aligning with the reality that
you can change the red light at
a snap of your fingers.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you created the
concept that I'm better at it
than you are, and you continue
to practice your magic.
Speaker 2: so to speak.
Speaker 1: And then the other
day when you did it, you're
pretty excited that you're like
oh my God, I finally did it, I
finally did it, I finally did it
.
That felt good.
Speaker 2: El Chango.
Speaker 1: It was fun and it was
exciting, but if you went into
that knowing that you have the
power to do that at any given
time I've got the power, and it
doesn't have to take any time at
all.
When you did it, it would be
like oh yeah, I know I can do
that, so what's the big deal?
You wouldn't have gotten the
same feeling or experience out
of it.
It would have been a different
experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a good
time.
I did it twice actually in that
day.
It was pretty good.
You know, everybody does that
and I don't think they realize
they do it.
Speaker 1: Do what?
Speaker 2: When they're sitting
at a stoplight.
Speaker 1: They're sitting there
trying to energetically change
it, because they're tired of
sitting at the stoplight already
.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you're
doing something else and the
stopped is a convenience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like for me if
I am trying to do something and
I need to not drive for a minute
, so I can get it done, like
putting on mascara while you're
driving, oh.
Speaker 2: I knew I'd get
somebody when I threw that out
there.
Speaker 1: You're going to get
the weapons, Because the other
day I saw a lady doing that
while she was driving.
I was like wow Anyway.
Speaker 2: Haven't done that in
a minute, huh.
Speaker 1: Stop it.
I haven't.
I haven't done that in a minute
Ever since I got my eyeliner
tattooed on, and now I go and I
have a lady put my little
eyelashes on.
Speaker 2: I don't do that
anymore.
I remember when we first
started dating I would watch you
drive off on your little
Volkswagen Bug doing your makeup
, driving down the road Doing my
eyeliner.
I'm asking when you were
driving with your knee.
I'm talented.
Speaker 1: I'm a talented biatch
.
Speaker 2: That comes from
smoking weed back in the day.
Speaker 1: I wasn't a big weed
smoker.
Actually, my body didn't
resonate with it.
Every time I try to smoke it I
pass out and go into this realm
of unaliveness.
So I wasn't a big.
I mean, that's happened to me
Even from the first time I
smoked it in school.
I passed out, it stopped
breathing, scared the shit out
of my teacher, and then I did it
a couple of other times.
Speaker 2: That's how I learned
to drive with my knee, so I
could hold the pipe and the
lighter at the same time while I
was driving down the road.
Speaker 1: No, literally, I
learned to drive with my knee
because I needed my hands to
either curl my hair you remember
when the curling irons were
butane Cordless.
That was such a new invention
Never.
Well, you don't curl your hair.
I didn't have that money.
No, my hair is naturally curly.
Yeah, if you don't curl your
hair, you wouldn't understand.
Yeah, but they.
Speaker 2: I definitely couldn't
afford a cordless, freaking
hair curler.
Yeah, so when?
Speaker 1: they first came out,
the cordless was not a thing.
What they did is they came out
with curling iron that ran on
this little uh, this little tank
of like butane some kind of
burner in it.
Yeah, like somehow it ran off
of like uh butane type product
and you put this little
cartridge in it and it would get
hot and it was cordless it
didn't have a cord.
You didn't know that yeah, they
may even still have them, I
don't know.
Nowadays they have the
rechargeable batteries and all
of that that are much safer.
Oh yeah, I can imagine Good to
mention.
So those of us that don't really
live in the construct of time
or we create our own time, tend
to be tagged as late all the
time, tend to be tagged as late
all the time, and so, to fit
into everyone else's bubble of
time watchers and time police,
we find loopholes.
So my loophole was to put my
makeup on and do my hair in the
car on the way to work the car
on the way to work, and so
having a cordless hair, iron and
learning to put my eyeliner and
my mascara on.
I digress in the car was quite
convenient, so coming up to a
red light, I could get a lot of
shit done at the red light.
Make it stay red yeah, I was
okay with it being red and and
sticking there for a minute
because I was like man, I can
get this whole eye done if
you'll just hang on one more
second.
And then the next time I can
get the whole other eye done,
and then I can curl my hair, and
then I get to work and
magically I'm all put together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty
crazy.
Speaker 1: Fun times.
Speaker 2: It was Good times
back in the day um so what?
We still have good times every
day oh yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 1: So, just different
kind of fun I think we we
covered that topic pretty good,
but you know the I think the
thing that people need to
realize is there is no set way
of doing it no you, you just got
to figure out what feels good
next yeah, and what's so
surprising to me is that there's
still, even though we keep
repeating that and we keep
teaching it, you know, be it
through the podcast or through
seminars, there's still so many
people out there that think that
there's, like this guru,
instructed, set way of doing
things to get you to a feel
better place, the magic cure
Right here.
Here's the magic pill.
Here Let me wave my magic wand,
which I do have, you know, like
there's some sort of magical
recipe that we're all doing, and
it's not.
I can't tell you how many
techniques and tools and things
I have tried along my 30-year
journey and they change.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: You know, like for a
few months it's this particular
stone.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But then it changes,
and then it's smelling this
particular herb.
So I'll burn it my patchouli
yeah, you're a patchouli guy.
I do like patchouli.
Burn it, my patchouli.
Yeah, you're a patchouli guy.
He really resonates with
patchouli, so we run that often
in the.
I do like the patchouli In the.
What is the little machine
called?
Speaker 2: Motor coach.
The diffuser, oh, the diffuser,
yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we run a lot
of patchouli through our life.
It just doesn't.
I mean it just it varies.
Speaker 2: Are you glitzing?
Speaker 1: No, I was just trying
to decide what.
Speaker 2: I wanted to say next.
So the key is try stuff.
I think all you got to do is
make yourself aware, and if
you're judging yourself through
it.
Speaker 1: Oh my God, if I carry
around a big ball of quartz,
people are going to think I'm
weird.
So what Says the person that?
Speaker 2: carry around a big
ball of quartz, people are going
to think I'm weird.
So what Says the person that
carries around a big ball of
quartz?
Speaker 1: Who cares Like try it
.
Speaker 2: If it makes you feel
better, I don't care what
anybody else thinks.
If it makes me feel better, I
don't care what anybody thinks.
Of course I don't care what
anybody thinks anyway.
Speaker 1: If it makes you feel
better to wear big clown red
shoes, then put them on.
That might be kind of fun.
Speaker 2: Maybe I have to do
that one day.
Can I put it on my nose?
Speaker 1: You can do whatever
you want.
Speaker 2: Can I make it where I
push the nose and it goes
whoo-da.
Speaker 1: Why do your eyes look
so sleepy?
Oh, because you had a stick in
your eye.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you had a
sharp stick in your eye.
I'd rather do that than get a
sharp stick in the eye, I don't
know.
But so, um, you have anything
else?
Speaker 1: I have lots of stuff,
but I don't know where we are
on time.
I could literally sit here and
just conversate all day.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: With myself or others
.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to
talk about, I will go there with
you, and that's a great prelude
, isn't?
It Hand in hand.
I will go there with you, of
course.
Speaker 2: This is a great life.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's a great way to
live.
Speaker 1: And there's no topic
that's off limits, nope.
Speaker 2: Go ahead and leave a
comment, send us an email,
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about
anything.
Speaker 2: We sure will.
If there is something you're
stuck on, just send us a note or
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Speaker 2: Check us out.
Speaker 1: Because we have a
Facebook thing too.
We do.
I think we're on most all the
platforms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you go to
one platform and you type in at
the Merck Centers, it'll link
all of them together for you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing to
take away is that you are the
most interesting thing, so
explore yourself.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: And figure out.
Get curious about yourself.
Get curious about your mind,
your body, your soul and see
what that communication is.
Develop a line of communication
with you and yourself and start
to explore that.
Speaker 2: Totally.
Speaker 1: And see what feels
good.
What permission slip do you
need?
Speaker 2: I need the lottery
one yourself and start to
explore that and see what feels
good.
What permission slip do you
need?
I need the one I need the
lottery one.
Speaker 1: There's different
ones out there.
Yeah, I'm playing, and so just
start trying them on to see what
fits.
Yeah, I totally agree and then
don't get stuck in the okay,
this one is what works.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't go,
definitely don't have
expectations.
Speaker 1: If it changes, then
go with something new.
Going with intentions not
expectations, because I get this
a lot whenever I'm working with
people.
I used to do this, but it
doesn't seem to be working
anymore.
Well, that's because you're a
whole new person every second of
the day, so the person that it
used to work for you've evolved
and you're not that person
anymore, so go find what the
next thing is yeah, we change,
that's for sure that's.
Speaker 2: The only thing you
can depend on is that I have no
idea what's the mission we're
going to be in including us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's been
proven scientifically.
You're a whole new person every
so often.
I mean even your blood cells.
They change out.
120 days in You're getting a
whole new lineup.
Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
Speaker 1: Skin cells.
You slough off your skin cells.
You get a whole new lineup.
Speaker 2: Yep, totally agree.
Speaker 1: So you're a whole new
person.
Yep, totally agree, so you're a
whole new person.
Anyway, one second to another
and stay real with it.
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Hey, thank you all for
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Um, you did.
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