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Are We Alone?

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Could ancient civilizations have harnessed alien technology to build the pyramids? This bold idea takes us on a fascinating journey through theories of extraterrestrial influences on historical landmarks and technological advances. From the mysterious lights of Roswell to the potential alien connections of Nikola Tesla, we challenge conventional notions of history and explore the possibility that humanity’s progress might have celestial origins. With a blend of humor and curiosity, we discuss the intriguing government disclosures and ponder what they might mean for our perception of the universe.

Imagine UFOs as conscious entities, capable of influencing technological leaps on Earth. Our conversation takes an unexpected turn as we recount personal experiences with unexplained phenomena, like static clouds and the elusive lights over Texas, which some believe could be more than they appear. We explore the role mysterious UFO sightings play in shaping public perception and dive into speculation about advanced technologies and their potential roots in alien interactions. Whether it's Maui's oceanic oddities or Oklahoma's historical sightings, the thread of mystery weaves through our narrative, leaving us to question the boundaries of our reality.

How do encounters with extraterrestrial species affect our consciousness and beliefs? Our exploration leads us to the depths of human experience, considering the impact of high vibrational energies and altered states of awareness when interacting with otherworldly beings. We share stories from an Irish pub in Frisco, Texas, where conversations with strangers lead to broader discussions about hidden towers and cryptids, sparking a reevaluation of societal norms. As we navigate through these extraordinary possibilities, we invite you to join us in considering the implications of not being alone in the universe and embracing the unknown wonders that lie beyond our everyday perceptions.

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Speaker 1: I dig that song, you like that song. I really like that song, I mean it's okay. Hey guys, welcome back to the show. Good morning Dr Jenny in the house with her wake up voice. Good morning, it's so hype, it's good morning. Speaker 2: Are you having coffee ? No, I'm drinking Pepsi. Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so high-pitched. Good morning, are you having coffee? No, I'm drinking Pepsi. Oh, I'm having a Pepsi Okay. I got a question for you. Speaker 2: I am not having coffee either. Thanks for asking. Speaker 1: Yeah, you're having water. I can see you're sitting across the table from me. I don't have to ask. Speaker 2: I am having actually water with apple cider vinegar and a touch of agave. Speaker 1: Oh, cleaning it out. Speaker 2: Cleaning it out. Speaker 1: Cleaning it. I got a question for you. Okay, are we alone? Are we alone in the world? Speaker 2: Are we alone? Is it a rhetorical question or do you want me to answer it? Speaker 1: No, it's kind of rhetorical. We are in a midst of the government releasing all these documents and all these videos and all these unidentified flying objects that are flying around the I mean, that's been happening for a minute yeah, it has, but they're just not releasing it and everybody is. Speaker 2: It's kind of a little bit of a hot topic well, but they're not just now releasing it. Those have been being released for quite some time. Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, some of it has. Speaker 2: So I mean maybe more than what previously was released. Speaker 1: Just recently, though , the military videos from the military ships have been released. That's the first time that's happened. Speaker 2: Well, I can't speak on that because I really don't watch the news or follow any of that, so I'm going to have you be the foremost authority on that. Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I want everybody to answer the question on our comments. Are we alone? Are we the only intelligent life form in this universe? I personally think that we would be naive to think that. Speaker 2: The only thing I did see was I saw something, and where did I see it? Maybe it was some documentary I was watching. They actually saw in a whole other universe, a planet that looked like it had city lights on it. Speaker 1: Oh, I saw that too. Yes, that looked like it had city lights on it. Oh, I saw that too. Yes, that was a YouTube video, or a short video I seen on YouTube where one of those high-powered telescopes saw what appeared to be lights on another planet. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah, I seen that. Speaker 2: Yeah, so I agree with you. I think there's no possible way that we could be alone and I can take it in the rabbit hole direction, or we can stay on the surface. Speaker 1: I think we ought to just keep it really fun. I think we should go wherever it takes us, that's right, I agree, and so here is the thing that came to my mind. Okay About this is and this is going to be funny we went to Roswell, new Mexico, and how disappointing was that. Speaker 2: I don't know what you were expecting. I know Little green men running around like serving you your hamburger and stuff. Speaker 1: I mean, I expected at least a museum or something. You know there was a museum there, but it wasn't in Roswell, remember, it was a town over, yeah, and that was disappointing . I was really expecting that. Speaker 2: I agree it was very anticlimactic. It was not at all what I expected either. Speaker 1: But the museum that we went to really was enlightening about how the government covered that up. Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean got to be careful because that is a conversation all in and of itself. I agree, you know the conspiracy theorist out there. Speaker 1: Yeah, there's plenty of that. Speaker 2: There's all kinds of crap that the government covers up. Speaker 1: And all the books that were released and the dying declarations from the people that were involved in it. All that was at the museum and it was pretty interesting to think about it because I mean, come on, let's just be real, we cannot be the only intelligent life form. That is such a minor way of thinking. Speaker 2: I mean, especially if you start talking about you know that show Ancient Aliens where they talk about. How did our ancestors build these big, huge pyramids with such precision, moving these rocks that are tons and tons of? Speaker 1: weight 200 tons apiece. Speaker 2: Without the tools we have, even today, that can't hardly move that amount of stuff . Speaker 1: Yeah, they say some of those stones on the pyramid. We couldn't move them today. We would have to use multiple cranes and things like that, because some of those stones were 200, 300 tons. I mean that's massive. Speaker 2: Yeah, so how did they move them? Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question. Speaker 2: I have my theory. Speaker 1: What's your theory? Speaker 2: I mean, listen, here's the thing Our energy. It's scientifically proven. We have enough energy in our individual body I don't remember what this study says to run some crazy amount of like so many like multiverses with electricity. That's how much energy we have in our own physical bodies. If you are living in an era where there is no TV for distraction and there is no TikTok TikTok and there is no cell phone towers, no podcasts. And there is no cell phones, you have nothing better to do but sit around and play with your energy. Around and play with your energy. They were much, much more advanced students of the energy body and what could be done with it, and so my theory is is that they knew very well how to utilize their energy and move stuff around very easily. Speaker 1: Oh, I agree. Speaker 2: Because they practiced their skill and honed in on being able to use things, move things with their energetic body. Speaker 1: My theory is that we used alien technology that was available. That's my theory. Speaker 2: Yeah, quite possibly Be what it ever is. Speaker 1: I mean, they could have used a. Speaker 2: UFO A combination. Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be a combination of them. The Anunnaki could have done it . Who knows, they could have been able to lift 300 tons. Who knows? We don't have any idea. Speaker 2: I mean that's yeah, I think it's definitely a combination. I think it's a combination of the alien advanced technology and the ancestral use of energy. I think it's a combination. Speaker 1: You know it's got to be intriguing to a lot of people to think about the Roswell, New Mexico, incident. Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like that's boring. Speaker 1: Well, you know, I was just going to start there because there's one I just seen yesterday that I'm going to kind of lead through it. But you know that was back in the black and white days. There wasn't even color photography then, and but they still found a way to suddenly develop technology after that. You know, like our first jet engine was was created not very long after that, and it was technology that nobody had ever seen before. And if you remember I'm trying to remember what Tesla's comment was about us not being alone in the universe, cause I thought that was very enlightening comment that he made. It was something about if we listen to our ancestors that are not of this world, then we would advance quicker than we ever thought we could, or something to that sense. Speaker 2: A hundred percent. Speaker 1: And the Roswell, new Mexico thing you know with supposedly they had one dead alien and one alive alien. Who knows what happened to them . And uh and uh, there's supposedly, you know, a hundred stories below ground now and the area 51. And so now you go through all this progress and all this stuff that the government denied area 51 even exists for 40 years. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And then suddenly they go oh yeah, just kidding, it really exists, you know, because all these guys that are retired and we're doing these dime declarations and they were kind of in a spot where they had to. And then there was video of Obama walking out of Area 51, but it didn't exist, with a signed rabbi's hadim that said Area 51, do not enter property of the United States government. Speaker 2: Exactly. Speaker 1: And so they kind of couldn't hide it anymore. Speaker 2: Yeah, for me it is a little challenging not to take us down the rabbit hole. I'm finding it a little challenging not to take us down the rabbit hole. I'm finding it a little challenging. I'm not sure who's packed their carrot sandwich. Speaker 1: It can be a rabbit hole. Speaker 2: Because if you think about it from a standpoint of we create our own reality and if there's people in the universe or the multiverse that want to know what it's like to experience having aliens, then that reality is created and it lives out there with all the other realities and anybody who vibrationally aligns with it is going to be able to experience that. Speaker 1: Yes. And so down the rabbit hole we go Right, you know, on the systematic timeline of events going through things is, you know, everything kind of quiet down in the 60s after the Roswell event and there was another one in not very far from there. I can't remember that one, the name of that town it was in, but there was like two that happened within a two year period and then everything got quiet and that's when the government started studying it. So it kind of tells you that's a rabbit hole in itself. Speaker 2: The government said they started studying it I assure you the government has been studying it long before that. Speaker 1: Yes, and and then then. So now, as we go through the 60s and the 70s, and then the lights of Oklahoma. Do you remember those in northeastern Oklahoma? Those videos came out. They were at I can't remember but I know where it was. It was in a town just north of Atoka, Oklahoma, and it was out in the country and there was like these lights that you could drive out there and see, that floated up and down the road and they would charge you and go away. Speaker 2: No, I don't remember that. Speaker 1: Oh well, but anyway. So all these videos. Then video cameras came out, changed everything. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Because denial couldn't happen after that. Speaker 2: Right. Speaker 1: And so what they did then was started calling these UFO videos spoofs or man-made yeah, and come on, really, I mean I could see maybe a few of them being done, because people are trying to sell video. Speaker 2: Right. Speaker 1: But you can't discount every single one of them. Speaker 2: I mean you can try. Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's what they did. Speaker 2: Yeah, that was their out on how to keep us in the dark, so to speak. Yes, there's some of us that are just hardcore believers and there's nothing they can say or do. That's going to take that away. Speaker 1: No, I agree. You know, when we were in Maui, you know one of the big sightings that always happened, where they say the UFOs come out of the ocean. Yeah, it was right off the eastern shore of Maui and we were on the western shore of Maui, but when we stayed there but they supposedly have a lookout there that you can go out there and watch these like objects come up out of the water , they fly around in directions and turn 90 degrees at 500 miles an hour and then go back into water. Speaker 2: Why are you just now telling me about that? Why didn't we go there? I don't know that would have been fun. Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, I think I did bring it up. I need a want. I think the kids didn't want to do. You need to, you need to. I missed that boat. I'm gonna get I'm get pow-pows after this podcast. Speaker 2: No, we're just going to have to go back now. Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to go back. I think I did mention it to Brandon and I think one of the kids and they were like yeah, I don't want to do that. Speaker 2: Well, maybe you did, I don't know. Speaker 1: I don't remember. Speaker 2: Nonetheless, we've been on. Speaker 1: Yeah, moving on, so let's talk about. Speaker 2: So what is the purpose of them being here now? Speaker 1: Well, you know, I don't really know what is their purpose of being here now. I don't know what do you think it is? Speaker 2: I mean, I think that there is a. I think in the past, the agenda was to help advance technology, and I think that's why they came so in the scheme of elementary, first grade, second grade. You know that school concept that I put out there, I think, back in the day when the pyramids were built. That was the technology. Yeah Is, let's build them. What do you think the pyramids are for, though? I think that they were beacons that did what kind of like a lighthouse in the ocean for the ufos of where their spots were that they would go to, to what I think I don't know I find it interesting that when you're working with energy and maybe this is an experiment that you and I do, since you can see energy I find that when I make a pyramid with my hands over certain aspects of my body, I feel energy movement quicker, faster, stronger, whatever. I feel like it has something to do with working with the energy . Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 2: Not only the planet, but of the tribe, tribe of the whole energy construct of, of everything. Speaker 1: I feel like it has something to do with energy oh, I agree with you, because there are how many different modalities in the spiritual world for meditation, for energy clearing, for are done with pyramids. I mean, well, we had that friend of ours in arkansas that had that fancy pyramid, that had that were all that was all lined in stones for meditation. Speaker 2: Yeah, made out of like copper or whatever. Speaker 1: Yeah, it was copper. Speaker 2: You got in it and sat . Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was a pretty crazy feeling and it was like dead silence inside there. Yeah, it was crazy what it looked like. Speaker 2: I feel like it creates like some sort of energy vortex and like blocks stuff out, and so I feel like pyramids were built to accentuate some sort of energy practice and accentuate some form of working with the energies of the planet. I feel like it had something to do with energy. Speaker 1: You know you asked what. I think that they're here for now. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: I would talk specifically about the oceans, because we've only like explored what less than 20% of the oceans. Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, A hundred percent. Speaker 1: We don't even have technology that can go to the depth of those things Right All the way to the bottom. Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wonder if there's not some kind of mega mineral or something down there that powers these ships that they go down and protect so we don't find them. I don't think it has to be an actual. Okay, listen, here's my thought . If they are so advanced that they can come and move stones that are so incredibly heavy and they can laser cut these stones to make pyramids back that far ago, I don't think they need some mineral from planet earth to cloak them. Speaker 1: Oh, I agree, I think that Not cloaking, I mean like it's a powerful kind of like, you know, like a diamond that's below in the ocean, the depths of the ocean that they use to power their ships. Speaker 2: No, I think the water's a conduit for energy. Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good theory as well. Speaker 2: We know that by science, and it's a good place to hide out when you don't want the mass to know you. Yet they don't want to create mass hysteria and we've been taught to be afraid of them. Speaker 1: I agree. Speaker 2: And so here's the conversations I have with the aliens that come to our bedroom. You know, as a channel I conversate with many people, entities, beings. I have lots of conversations. They're not something to be afraid of. That's been programmed into our head by the government so that if we're afraid of them we'll want to have nothing to do with them. They are here for our intellectual and technological advancement. They're a part of even our family of. We're hybrids of that alien species. Speaker 1: I mean, I think so. If you go all the way back to the ancient, they already live amongst us. Speaker 2: They just hide because we've been taught to be afraid of them. The ones that have the higher vibrational frequency can't come to this earth dimension yet because their energy is so overwhelming to us at the vibrational frequency that we're at. It actually causes physical symptoms of anxiety that mimic fear, anxiety, panic, want to run away, fainting goat syndrome where you can actually pass out , and that's what's happening. It's not that people this is just my opinion it's not that people were abducted against their will and then lost consciousness because the alien gave them a Mickey and knocked them out so they could probe them in places that they didn't want to be probed. That might be fun. They. It's all an agreeable thing, and so the humans that were abducted or that are being proverbially abducted. They've all agreed to that. But the energy is so overwhelming we can't handle it yet in our DNA structure and in our physical body, because we're not used to being around that high of a frequency. Speaker 1: I agree with you, you know. I think the government discovered that they can control the masses with fear of aliens. After that, what was it? The War of the Worlds that came out on radio and it caused all that mass hysteria. Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember. Speaker 1: Oh, there was like this radio show back before TV. Speaker 2: I've never watched the news, so I don't know. Speaker 1: The show the War of the Worlds. It was an audio radio show that was put on by a radio station. Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, I read about it. Speaker 1: And it caused, like this, mass hysteria in the entire world, like everybody thought we were really being attacked. Speaker 2: I remember reading about that. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, back in the 50s. Yes, and it was before TV or when TV was brand new. Speaker 1: Yes, nobody had TVs really yeah, yeah, yeah. Only the very wealthy. Speaker 2: And so it was a pretend or an imaginary radio show and everybody thought it was really happening. Okay, I'm following you. Speaker 1: I think the government discovered at that time they could use those kind of scenarios for their advantage to hide the technology that they were learning or what if it was a test to see how, how? They would react. Speaker 2: The masses would react if they put something like that out what a scientific way to think about it. It was a scientific study to see can we gain control over the masses by putting this out there? Speaker 1: Right. Speaker 2: What if it's like that? Speaker 1: You know, and I actually agree with you, I think they do walk among us. Speaker 2: Absolutely. Speaker 1: And I think they hide themselves quite well. You know, they obviously know how to look like. And I think they hide themselves quite well, you know, they obviously know how to look like humans. I think. I think that the aliens that are here are here for basically just studying us. Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and to help us advance. Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, I agree with that. Speaker 2: Help us advance and make sure I think they're also here overseeing when we do get given technology and there's those goofballs out there that want to do crazy crap with it that is going to blow the planet up. Stupidity is just aggravating to me. When you get those goofballs that want to play with crap they don't know anything about and they want to blow the planet up. I think they're here to make sure we don't do that. Speaker 1: I think I agree with you and that's why it kind of falls in place with my theory about there's something down in the oceans that they want and they're here to protect it, because every time we've had any kind of a nuclear disaster and be it a power plant, we drop the bomb on Hiroshima, any of those kind of atomic events there's always been photographs of UFOs over it. Speaker 2: But what does that have to do with the ocean? Speaker 1: Because I think that's why they're here. I think they're there. They get involved in these disasters that happen, like the Chernobyl thing. There's actually video of lasers coming out of this UFO into the plant and then suddenly the core cooled down and didn't blow up. Speaker 2: But what does that have to do with the ocean? Speaker 1: I think they were protecting what's in the ocean that they're down there protecting. And so because if this natural or this big disaster happens, it takes a chance on rupturing the plates of the earth and all that stuff and maybe that mineral goes away, or it hides into the core of the earth or they can't get to it. I don't know, that's just my theory. Speaker 2: No, we're just following your theory. Yeah, and so if they're here to protect? Speaker 1: the mineral that is deep below the ocean and one of these idiots take the atomic bomb and drop it in the ocean to blow it up and it shifts an atomic one of the earth's plates and this mineral goes away. That they're protecting would explain why they get involved in any of those natural kind of disasters or those big disasters that could happen and cause a plate to move. Speaker 2: So in your mind, what does this mineral do for them or for whatever? Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, I mean, I have no idea. Speaker 2: You just stopped the story there. Speaker 1: I just know that there's many, many movies that have been released about minerals that do things. I mean even back when Superman first started kryptonite. There's some kind of hidden minerals that we don't know about that creates power. You know, we actually interact with one now, shungite. Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a stoner, so we interact with lots of crystals and minerals and stones and a lot of that that harness power. Yeah, so I'm not questioning you, I'm just digging into where your mind is going with your theory. Speaker 1: Right, what is it? Speaker 2: that you think Does it power their spaceships, does it power their universe? Speaker 1: I think it powers their technology period. I mean, let's talk about what's the superhero? The guy with the red mask and got the thing in his chest. Speaker 2: Iron man, iron man. Speaker 1: Iron man. It's not by him, he's powered by a mineral. Speaker 2: He's a sexy beast. How can you not remember Iron man? Speaker 1: Well, I don't find him sexy, but you may, and so there's many little hints, just like everything else that happens that they give us via audio video movies, tiktok, youtube, that they're allowing to just give us just a little bit, and so it kind of makes you wonder maybe there's something down there that's powerful, that they have the technology to harness the power of that mineral, and that could be how the stones are moved. Speaker 2: Or maybe they're giving you tidbits, getting us to desensitize to the concept so that we can raise our vibration and come out of fear, so that we can have actual contact. Speaker 1: And you know what I'm ready. Speaker 2: I mean, if we get to a place where we're not afraid of them and we raise our vibrational frequency as a whole , then they can actually walk around with us and be a part of our society and let's not be afraid of them and not have to hide anymore. I would like to send a message and they could show us how to, because there's a lot of them that live in spaceships above our planet. If you look up at the sky and you see clouds that don't move, or the stars that follow you. That doesn't, that's not right. Clouds move. Speaker 1: I know it's been crazy. Speaker 2: And if you start paying attention to it, then you'll see what I'm talking about. Start looking up at the sky during the day and you'll take notice of these big, giant clouds that never change shape and they don't move with the wind. But then there's other little clouds around it that do move with the wind and float around in the sky like they're supposed to. Speaker 1: They project a hologram that makes you think that that's just a cloud and it's really hiding their ship. Speaker 2: Right, they're there. Speaker 1: No, I agree, I mean. Here's an example for you and I when we were in Texas, we walked outside of the apartment and there was those five lights in the sky. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: We moved to Arkansas. Two years later, the five lights find us again. Speaker 2: Yeah, we always kid each other about whose family it is. Speaker 1: Right. And then we. We are on the truck stopped in Idaho. There are those five lights again. We moved to Florida. We're in Ocala, florida, walk out the front door, there are those five lights again. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And Brandon was there and I was like look those lights fall, fall. And I showed him a picture of the ones in texas. Speaker 2: He's like, oh, that's weird yeah and so it's like so now what happens is we we've raised our vibration quite a bit over the years oh yeah and so now what happens? they come and go very easily through our house and in our bedroom and in the yard, but we still are not able to stay fully conscious when they are close. So we'll have those kind of nights where it's like we both crash out and don't even remember going to sleep and the night goes by very quickly and it's like I feel like I just went to sleep and I don't even remember going to sleep and the night goes by very quickly and it's like we're. It's like we're. I feel like I just went to sleep and I don't even remember going to sleep and now I'm awake and what happened the whole night? our vibration is not quite elevated enough to not go completely out of it. When they come, for the most part you know I have them, but it's only after I've had like a long day of lots of meditation and my frequency is so high that sometimes I feel stoned. Just practicing being in that high, high frequency and still figuring out how to function throughout the day Because it can to me, for me, because I'm not used to it, it can feel like I'm high and it sometimes is hard to function. Speaker 1: Because I got high. Because I got high. Speaker 2: Because I got high. Speaker 1: Do, do, do, do, do, do, oh, anyway it does not. Speaker 2: Now, there was a time when I would be approached. That's the word. Oh, I would be approached. I stay up late. James usually goes to bed, falls asleep pretty early. I am a late person from working nights. Speaker 1: She's a night walker. Speaker 2: And so there'll be times where I'll go out at one or two o'clock in the morning to sit on the patio just enjoy peace and quiet or whatever. So there've been times where I've been approached, but they can't come any closer than across the street or across the parking lot and I can actually see them. And at first, when it first happened, that was even too close and it did cause this initial anxiety feeling, kind of panic, oogie, want to go back in the house, kind of feeling, and they were like we're not here to hurt you, just sit in it , don't run away. And they coached me through it. And so now what happens is, you know, my hair will kind of stand on end, I'll get that kind of goose bump feeling, but I know that they're out there. And now they've got to where they can actually move into parts of the house and what they're doing is they're exposing us a little bit at a time to their frequency. I'm moving my hands back and forth, so he's staring at me as I talk with my hands and hit the microphone. So for James and I, what they're doing, they're exposing us to their frequency a little at a time because we've shown that we're okay with contact and interaction, and so it is. It can be an interesting thing. I guess the reason I'm bringing it up is because, if it's happening to you, stop and look at it from different perspectives, you know, stop and look at it from a is this really something to be afraid of ? Or is it such a high vibrational thing that it's causing feelings in my body that are similar to fight or flight fear? Because that's kind of what I'm kind of trying to explain. Is that initially for me that's how it felt in my body, and so for a minute there I wanted to be afraid of it because it was mimicking those same physical symptoms inside my body. But what I was then shown and instructed in my experience is I'm squishing that all together and it needs to be a little more discerned and clarified because it's not the same. Speaker 1: Okay, so what do you think they look like? Speaker 2: There's many different species. Speaker 1: Oh, so they all look different. Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 1: Kind of similarly the ones I've seen, similarly different. Speaker 2: Yes, the ones that I have seen. But they can. A lot of them can kind of, I guess, what we call shape shift. Yeah, so a lot of them can change their shape. Speaker 1: I think that's where the rumor shape shift came from. Speaker 2: There's a lot of talk about the praying mantis ones. There's a lot of talk about the praying mantis ones. There's a lot of talk about the greys, the reptilians. Speaker 1: The ones that come out of your chest. Speaker 2: There's a blue species. There's actually two different blue species, they look most human. Speaker 1: They're called the smurfs. Speaker 2: Yeah, they're part of the fairy species. There's actually two different species. They look most human-like. The blue species One's a very, very light blue with some opaque white looking, and then the other is a blue species that looks very ironically enough, looks very similar to the cartoon the Avatar. Oh yeah, they look very similar to that. Speaker 1: Well, there you go. The government gave us that little bit again. Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, there's. Speaker 1: Because that's what I think they look like. There's a bird species? Speaker 2: Oh, they do. I've actually come in contact with the bird species where they have actual beaks and feathers but they walk on legs like humans and I mean. So there's lots of species out there. There's a whole like Star Trek Federation, where a member or two from each species, we come together I say we, because I've been shown that I am part of that in my sleep time and we come together as a unified group . Speaker 1: I'm slowly taking us down the rabbit hole. I'm trying not to man. Speaker 2: I'm trying, not to. I. I'm trying not to. I'll stop there. Speaker 1: Oh, you're okay, Go ahead and finish your. You can't just stop your thought. Speaker 2: I can. Speaker 1: Okay, and so that once again, you just gave another example of how we just got a little bit of it in Star Trek, yeah exactly. And in Star Wars and in all of these very popular movies and TV series. I wonder why they're so popular . Speaker 2: I'll tell you another thing that they're doing to give us a little morsel those apps that are called AI apps that you see on the commercials or on the little advertisements or whatever, that will actually write things or do things for you. The AI apps, yeah, artificial intelligence, and they've been working on the robots that actually look human-like. What was her name? Sophia? Speaker 1: I think yeah, Tesla's got one now too. Speaker 2: Right and they're putting them in the cars. So part of what's already going on in the alien world is that their spaceships actually have a consciousness by themselves, separate from the people who ride and live on them. You mean, like self-driving cars, has its own awareness and its own consciousness and it chooses to participate in the big scheme of things. It chooses to let these entities live on it and to basically tote them around. And so, because it has its own consciousness around, and so, because it has its own consciousness, it can, as a very advanced technology can move through space and time very quickly. That's why you can see them and then one minute they're there, and then next minute they're not in the blink of an eye. It's because the ship itself has read the energy of the person that's basically captaining the ship and knows okay, they're ready to go here. They don't have to even verbalize it, they just read the energy and then they take them to that place that they're wanting to go by connecting with the energy Rabbit hole. Speaker 1: Sorry, you just continued right on down there no , I just was saying I'm just playing that's how advanced they are with the things they've. Speaker 2: So they've shown us the whole ai concept and we're playing with the elementary version of it and they're already light years ahead by they already interact with it and utilize it on this higher level. Speaker 1: I understand. You know, one of my personal experiences is do you remember the lights over Texas, when there was like a thousand videos of the 11 lights that were all moving and then they'd split off into more and then they'd come back into one? Speaker 2: I don't know where I was at when all this was going on. Speaker 1: I don't know it was in Fort Worth, this I don't know it was in fort worth the lights in oklahoma, the lights over texas, that was all over the news in texas and it was, I mean , literally right at the next morning, or actually the 10 o'clock news after it happened, because it happened to like eight o'clock at night and it was on the 10 o'clock news that everybody's calling in. But don don't worry, it's a military exercise. Speaker 2: Yeah, they use that. They use that a lot. Speaker 1: And then the videos come out of it and you can tell we don't have any military vehicles that can move like that . Right, and even there was a retired general that was interviewed on one of the stations there that stated that he has just retired from the military after 46 years and never seen a military vehicle that can move in those ways. Speaker 2: That moves in that manner. Speaker 1: But it was videoed by thousands. I mean thousands and thousands. It was all over all the social media, it was everywhere. Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was just on the show the other day I actually saw it. When the video thing started to come out, they couldn't keep it as hidden anymore. And now that we have the iPhones and the Androids with the video capability and all of that, I feel like the government was like okay, if you can't beat them, join them. Let's start just feeding them little tidbits. Let's unclassify some of these documents to start satisfying their need to know. Speaker 1: We started the space military. Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Speaker 1: But here's the crazy part about that interaction I had is that happened out in the middle of the country, like it was out in the middle of nowhere , and so I went driving towards it and I would. Speaker 2: I have no doubt that you did. Speaker 1: And here's the crazy part that happened is I kept passing these towers that had lights. I was going down these dirt roads and they had lights and I would pass it. And there was a light there, and I chased these lights down these back roads for hours until daylight, and then when I came back those towers weren't there. It was like they were up and then they were just gone. And so I went to investigating and I found to where there was one. I turned down this back road and it said private property. Of course I drove down it anyway. Speaker 2: I'm sure you did, and I drove right down this road to this. Speaker 1: It was like a 16-foot tall fence with razor wire in this like probably 100-yard square. Speaker 2: My money's on. He climbed the fence y'all. Speaker 1: I couldn't. There was a razor. I tried and when I rattled the fence, the fence was electrified . Oh, Luckily I just happened to have an electrician suit so I could ground myself and climb it . But I got to the top and couldn't move the razor wire. But there was nothing in there. It was just this random 16-foot tall fence that was covered with razor wire and electrified, but there was nothing inside of it. Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty. It makes you go, hmm. Speaker 1: It did and I was like I used to have pictures of it and I went to try to find them off my cloud when I switched phones and couldn't. Speaker 2: And you couldn't find them anymore. No, that's because they don't want you to have them. Speaker 1: And so for like two weeks Can I ask you a question? Yeah, and so for like two weeks Can I? Speaker 2: ask you a question. Yeah, do you also go trying to get to the end of the rainbow for the pot of gold from the leprechaun? I? Speaker 1: tried once and ended up to water. Speaker 2: Did you get lucky charms? Speaker 1: No, ended up with fruity pebbles and no milk. Speaker 2: So that's because you found the unicorn and not the leprechaun? Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much and so, and so this would, for like a week I couldn't get these towers off of my mind, okay, and I made sure I'd drive down these roads and because you know , I know those roads pretty well out there yeah because we used to go fishing and hunting and everything out there dove hunting, right. Matter of fact, one of the fields that we used to dove hunt in that there was this big line of trees and a river. Well, I discovered on the other side of this field, across the trees, was one of those. I found numerous places of those fences that were like that throughout down these roads Curious. And it went on for like four or five days. I went doing this every single night. I was kind of obsessive about it because I know I seen those towers. Speaker 2: So did you like create a whole place, like in your basement, where you have all these pictures pinned to the wall, with string going from here to there? Speaker 1: No, but I did have a map in my truck where I marked them all and I don't even know where that map went anymore, actually. But and then the last night this was like a saturday night I had been on the lookout for commercial property and I and I went driving. I thought, you know, I'm gonna drive down this road tonight last time, see him or not, and I'll be damned if they weren't there the fences or the towers Interesting. And I go to drive down the road that I had been down before. Yeah, and it's blocked off. It's got these metal bar thing across it. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And so you can't even get down the road and so I was like, and I didn't mind. At that point I'm thinking, oh, somebody knows I've been here. Speaker 2: They don't have like. Speaker 1: But the tire was there. Speaker 2: Plaster mold of your tire tracks and all of that. Speaker 1: It was like they purposely put a dead center of the mile. Well you know, because everything in Texas out there is mile radiuses. Yeah, you know they call them squares, I think, where it's a mile road this way, mile road that way and the ranchers own the entire square. Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in real estate there's like this whole grid work thing. Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah, and and. So you couldn't get close to them unless you knew a road or something to get to them. Speaker 2: Right. Speaker 1: And they always had really big ditches. Speaker 2: What do you think they were? Speaker 1: You know, I don't know beacons of some sort. I don't know because beacons to summon what do someone's I mean ? Because it literally I was driving towards those lights and came across these towers and so I don't know if it had something to do with those lights or what, but I just know that those towers were there and then they weren't there, and then they were there and then when I went back never saw them. And then they were there, huh. And then, when I went back, never saw them again. Speaker 2: And they were behind these big weird electrified fences. I don't know. Speaker 1: Thing, Because at this point I couldn't get to them because they had blocked off. I was able to drive up to three of these fences. Speaker 2: Right, but you said that one time you got there they were there. Speaker 1: The fence was there Right and the tower no, the tower wasn't there, and so during the day, and it's only at night that you saw these things- Right, but I thought you said when you drove by there at night, the tower was there. No, the tower was not there. Now, the last time I drove by, the towers were back up, but I couldn't get to them to see if they were inside those fences. Speaker 2: Oh, because the road was blocked. Yes, but you could see the tower. I could see the tower you just couldn't get close enough to see if it was inside the little fence thing. Speaker 1: Right, and here's the crazy part is, one side of those towers were red lights, one side of the tower was blue lights and the other side of the tower was a yellow light, and so they all. It was like they had three lights going three different directions and when you drove around because I drove around these mile radiuses a ton and the lights were always up there in the air at night not all the time, but they were normally you would see them at night. It always happens when you saw the moving stars or the, the, aka, the satellites in the sky that you can see, that are in orbit around the United States. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: When you saw those kind of lights, you could bet that those towers were up. Speaker 2: Interesting. Speaker 1: It was a pretty profound thing for me. And then I come to find out later. I was at a bar in Frisco, Texas , and I was talking to a guy. Speaker 2: And so tell me, you were drunk through this whole thing. Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, I wasn't drunk. I was getting drunk that night because this is the night that I saw him. And I was in a bar in Frisco and I was in there talking to a guy. It was an Irish pub and he's like man, you look all sweaty, cause man. I tried to walk through the through the brush, across these ditches, to do walk over there to it, but it was so brushy you couldn't get to it and I was beat up. I was scratched up, I was all sweaty and I stopped to get a beer and this guy's like man, you've been where you been. I'm like man, I'm chasing these towers. And he's like what do you mean? And I, and I told him Did you know this? Speaker 2: Hold on. Did you know this person, or was he a complete stranger? Speaker 1: Complete stranger. Speaker 2: Okay, so he's going to walk away from this conversation, thinking cuckoo bird. Speaker 1: Yeah, this dude's great. No, you know, actually he said, bro, I know I saw one of them in Garland. Speaker 2: So you had to get your map out and add a little ping to it. Speaker 1: So you go where it is and what's weird is Garland's a very rural area, I mean it's very populated but there's this one part of Garland that's next to the river that goes through there, that is off limits. It's all government property. And he said there's a tower on that property, that's there one day and gone the next. And so he had always just assumed it was military vehicles that had the mobile towers. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, they're in the ground, they're for something. Speaker 2: Well, of course, I mean, if you take it all the way back to Tesla and his experiments, you know he built that whole big, huge electrical tower thing that went down into the earth and use the power of the earth or 12 feet or something, according to the documentary that I watched, so they could tap into the energy lines of the planet yeah and was trying to actually get us free electricity. Speaker 1: But it was. Then the dude was killed. I know, right, you got to be careful what we talk about. I guess we need to make this subscriber, only I guess, I don't know. Yeah, at least if they're going to abduct us because of our conversation, we can make some money off of it. They can at least pay us for it, but anyway. So the alien thing for me has been more realistic because even growing up, you know, there was many times that we saw things out in the middle of nowhere Because we used to go chasing tornadoes and wildfires. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And every time we'd chase a wildfire, we would see something in the air, and it wasn't an airplane, it didn't have any lights on it and it was just sitting there, and so it always makes you, always made me wonder. Speaker 2: I mean nowadays- it doesn't ever make you wonder if it's your like little hybrid family following you around making sure you don't get into some beep that you're not supposed to. Speaker 1: Maybe, maybe, who knows? But I think they exist and I am a firm believer in them, and I think that we would be a very unintelligent life force as human beings if we did not believe that. Speaker 2: Absolutely. I agree, I completely agree, and I think that it's becoming more and more talked about. Speaker 1: I agree. Speaker 2: I see a lot. I don't watch the news ever. I watch a lot of documentaries and I see a lot of documentaries popping up about the people catching them coming up out of the ocean, like you talked about . Speaker 1: The Smoky Mountains. They seem to be having a lot of sightings there. Speaker 2: Coming out of the mountains. Speaker 1: What about that one in New Mexico that we saw that time? Remember? It was like this weird mountain that just plateaued and it looked like there was an opening or something inside of it. Do you remember that? Speaker 2: I don't remember that , I think it was outside. Speaker 1: Maybe it was in Utah, maybe it was out there south of Salt Lake somewhere. Speaker 2: But anyway, I remember seeing it. I even saw a thing where there are different cryptid type species coming out. I know they can doctor up the videos and stuff, but it was a video and it was this little deer that had these little speaking of gills. It looked like little gills that were covered in fur that popped out on its face and she videoed it. I get it. I know, but, I still think that it is. Speaker 1: You are certified in cryptic research. Speaker 2: I am. I am certified in cryptic research and as an investigator that's one of my many bags of tricks that I have. But that person, even if that particular video is a hoax, they were inspired to create that. And if you take it down the rabbit hole, why were they inspired to create that? They were inspired to create that to begin to desensitize us to and expose us to the concepts of other species that are not of the norm, that exist, that we're not allowing ourselves to see because we are not always a race, that it can embrace things that are outside of the normal structure. Speaker 1: We get scared. Speaker 2: Well, but even still, even in our human species, how many times do we find people making fun of people that don't look the same because of some medical thing that distorted their body or the way they look and that's how they chose to come into their meat suit, their hybrid Right? I mean, we just don't accept some. We've made a definition of what norm should be and anything outside of that we are so hesitant to let it in and it's so ridiculous I agree look at all of the cool, interesting things that we are missing out on by not allowing ourselves to look past the nose on our face I agree, I mean the big giant squid, for goodness sakes, how cool is that? Right, we finally opened up our collective consciousness enough to be able to let one be caught and float to the surface so that we know that their existence is there, or I'm waiting for the…. Speaker 1: Bigfoot, yeah, sasquatch the Yeti guy, the Yeti guy, the. Speaker 2: Yeti, I'm waiting for that to be, you know, for us to open our collective consciousness enough to where we can actually get quantifiable data of, like a hair specimen or something to validate that they exist for all these people that are non-believers. They exist, of course they do. I believe they exist for all these people that are non-believers. Speaker 1: They exist. Speaker 2: Of course they do. Speaker 1: I believe they exist. Speaker 2: Of course they do. Speaker 1: I believe they. Speaker 2: I believe they exist. Speaker 1: I believe they live in the forest oh. Speaker 2: Yeah, they shape, shift in and out, they time travel. Speaker 1: I think they're masters of camouflage. Speaker 2: I think they are masters of finding the energetic superhighway. Agreed, not necessarily. Some people call it the vortex, the portal, the wormhole. Speaker 1: So I'm here to say from the Merck Center podcast aliens do exist, dun, dun, dun. We believe in aliens. We're open to alien Contact, contact, we're open to alien. Hey, take us to your leader, I want to meet them. Speaker 2: They do take you to your leader already. Speaker 1: So I think they exist , I think we would. You know, it would be so stupid of us to really not believe that there's not something smarter than us out there, or as of A hundred percent. But that's my thought. Speaker 2: That's my thought as well. What do you think? Further and farther out, they're finding that there is multiverse after multiverse, after multiverse and more and more stuff out there that they never knew existed, be it up in the sky, be it under the water. Speaker 1: I seen that thing the other day, where they said that there's a new insect or some kind of a new animal discovered every single day. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: In the Amazon, in caves in different places. Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I watched a documentary on. They actually sent up balloons to a certain level in the atmosphere in a sterile type situation. Oh, yeah, yeah, I've seen this At a certain level in the atmosphere in a sterile type situation. Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, I've seen this. Speaker 2: And captured part of the air in a non-contaminated way, brought it into a lab and found that it had actually new species that were falling into our atmosphere from space. Interesting yeah, little babies , little tiny, falling into our atmosphere from space. Interesting yeah, little babies , little tiny aliens, aliens, they're tiny, goo, goo ga ga. Can you imagine a little tiny alien? It looks like a baby, but talking like a grown man with a deep voice. That would be cool, like I'm boss baby. Speaker 1: Well, are you ready to wind this one up, dude? Speaker 2: I mean you know we're under time constraints. Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fun topic man. It is hey guys, if you all have any alien experience, please, please, please, go put it in the comments. Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 1: And if you have video , hey, post it on there, let We'll see it, and that way we can look at it too, because we really enjoy that kind of interaction. Speaker 2: Absolutely For sure. Speaker 1: We appreciate y'all listening. Don't forget to like, follow, subscribe and. Speaker 2: Ring the bell. Speaker 1: Ring the bell for Dr Jenny. We appreciate y'all. We love you and have an awesome day. Okay, love you. Bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, we'll see you next time.

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