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SPEAKER_05: Good morning,
everybody.
Welcome back to the Spears of
Grind.
We are in studio again.
SPEAKER_01: Good morning.
SPEAKER_05: Right.
Be knocking on.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
Or the what are they called?
The EVPs.
EVPs, yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: Embodied voices.
Yeah.
It would be kind of cool if we
caught one while we were doing a
recording.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's kind of
hard to tell because uh the
audio is so good on these
things.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: They're not really
broad uh broad spectrum
wideness, so it's even you could
have somebody in your ear and
those mics wouldn't pick it up.
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I see, I see.
Well, and I guess the uh editing
part of it too probably captures
something.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I have a lot
of the all the white noises
removed automatically.
But anyway.
SPEAKER_01: Well, so well it
makes editing easy, but it's
unfortunate that it quite
possibly flushes out any amazing
EVP.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: It's all in you
know, that's I have that all set
up to where it automatically
does it when you upload.
SPEAKER_01: What's the E stand
for?
External voice phenomenon.
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
SPEAKER_01: Phenomenon due to
the external voice is it
external?
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
Maybe.
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
SPEAKER_05: Anyway, you ready
for the topic of the day?
SPEAKER_01: You know I am due
to.
SPEAKER_05: So this is the topic
of the day.
The topic of the day is you
know, we ha everybody has that
little inner voice that we talk
to ourselves with.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we've talked
about it on other podcasts
before.
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
And we we have it's been a
minute since we talked about it,
I think.
It's been a while.
SPEAKER_01: Uh no, we talked
about it on the last podcast,
actually, when we were talking
about AI and Oh, yeah, the I
guess it was that last podcast?
SPEAKER_05: Huh?
Well, I don't know for some
reason that was my topic that
came up in the shower this
morning.
SPEAKER_01: Was the internal
voice?
SPEAKER_05: The internal voice.
What is it?
Is it your subconscious mind?
Is it your conscious mind?
Is it your higher self?
Is the voice changed by if
you're working on a belief that
you like or you don't like?
And and there's many different
voices, you know, like we refer
to our monkey mind.
That's a negative voice in our
head that's it that tells us all
the bad stuff that could happen.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
Or creates those stories that
are lies.
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
And then you have that voice in
your head that says, hmm, that's
a great like yesterday or a day
before yesterday that happened
when we were all talking, and it
was like, hmm, that's a great
idea.
Now that voice, now how do you
distinguish that voice?
How do you know which voice is
which?
SPEAKER_01: Wow, that's a good
question.
It's a beautiful topic.
SPEAKER_05: It is.
It came up in my shower thought.
Because I was like, when do you
know it's the right voice?
Because I have, you know, I just
it's for me, it's a feeling.
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
SPEAKER_05: And and then I have
to look at it and say, you know,
are my belief systems or prior
history creating the negative
voice?
Or is it my subconscious mind
saying, Hey, you might want to
look at this.
Yeah.
There you go, Dr.
Denny.
Take over from here.
It's all yours.
You got the floor.
I'm gonna sit back here and
snore.
SPEAKER_01: Don't snore.
It's hard to get that out,
especially if I'm talking.
That is one of those
million-dollar questions.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no.
SPEAKER_01: And it is a trained
technique to be able to discern
between the two frequencies of
information.
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
And it is well, there's multiple
frequencies in there because
there is a conscious mind.
SPEAKER_01: There are multiple
frequencies, but whenever you're
new and you're just learning,
you start small.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: Don't try to
interpret all of them,
especially if you're uh, for
example, like highly sensitive
and and open and kind of an open
channel to where you have
multiple audio frequencies
coming in and you've not really
trained yourself to know what
they are or deal with them.
It's easier if you take it in
bite-sized things, just like
everything else we teach.
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: And so if you're new
to it and you're really kind of
just being presented with this
question, the first one that I
would recommend uh identifying
on a pretty regular basis would
be that monkey mind, one that
tries its best to always keep
beliefs, patterns, and programs
in place because it's fearful of
the change.
And it's the one that uh usually
will stimulate that fear
frequency, that uh revenge
frequency, that um anger
frequency.
It usually is coupled with those
kinds of heavier emotions.
Um, oh, that person did this to
me, and so I'm gonna go back and
I'm gonna do this to that
person, or you know, it made me
embarrassed, and so I'm gonna be
mad at that person because that
uh wasn't right.
You know, when you're having
those internal dialogues that
look kind of like that, that's
that monkey mind voice that we
talk about.
SPEAKER_05: You know, for me, I
identify it by asking myself a
question.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: A lot.
And that's sometimes the
question is what's the energy
behind it?
SPEAKER_01: Or yeah, or the
feeling.
SPEAKER_05: Like I just like I
was just down at the Jeep
dealership taking the the
gladiator in for uh service to
be done because we're having
some issues.
And um, I was talking to the
rental lady, which is the same
lady I talked about in the
previous podcast, actually.
Right.
Patrice.
And uh she was talking to me,
you know, we were just casual
conversation like normal as
we're going through paperwork,
and she was like, Yeah, my gut
feeling is telling me that, you
know, I I'm gonna I you know, I
need to not do this job anymore.
And I said, Well, what's that
exact gut feeling?
What is that?
And she said, Well, my you know,
that inner voice in your head
says, they're gonna eliminate
your job.
And then so I just flat out ask
her, what's the energy behind
that in your mind?
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: What I mean, what is
it?
Oh, downsizing or blah blah
blah.
She's going I said, So what's
the energy behind it though?
What's so for you to have this
in your head, you have to have
an energy which creates an
emotion, and the emotion, and
most of the time that emotion is
based off previous history or
belief.
And so what's the energy behind
all that?
Well, and I was like, Have you
been downsized from a job
before?
You see what it happened was.
I'm like, ah, okay.
What happened was that's what I
did to her too.
She said, When you see what it
happened was, and she started
saying, I'm like, oh yeah, what
happened was and she just
laughed.
And I said, Well, because you
just explained to yourself that
this voice in your head is being
manipulated by a previous
incident.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Which is the
negative energy that's behind
it.
SPEAKER_01: Right, which is that
monkey, what we call that monkey
mind dialogue that goes on.
That's not a gut feeling, that's
not an intuition.
No, that's not intuition.
Yeah, that's a fear component
that's causing the monkey mind
to keep you from having to
experience history all over
again.
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: By convincing you to
do something different, not
because it's aligned, because
it's coming from higher self,
but because that monkey mind
dialogue is actually, it thinks
it's there to keep you from
experiencing harm.
SPEAKER_05: Right.
And sometimes there's a positive
behind it.
SPEAKER_01: There is.
SPEAKER_05: Because they don't,
if you haven't addressed the
belief or the situation that
happened, then monkey mind is
giving you this story because
they don't want you to have to
go through it again.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
The you know, the monkey mind
does have good intention.
It's there to want to keep you
safe and protected.
And doing absolutely nothing
physically, mentally,
emotionally.
That's what it thinks it's
trying to do.
SPEAKER_05: Because the monkey
mind is lazy.
It's the easiest thing for them
to do is to keep you in a state
of complacency.
Complacency and not doing
outside the box.
SPEAKER_01: Don't go visit the
unknown.
It's scary.
SPEAKER_05: Whatever you do,
don't take a chance in your life
ever.
SPEAKER_01: Don't do it, girl.
Don't do it, girl.
SPEAKER_05: And so, you know,
that's that was how the
conversation was.
And I said, you know, here's the
best thing you can do.
Ask yourself what's the energy
behind it, what is the history?
What what has happened in the
past?
And if there's something coming
up, then say, okay, if that is
going to happen, why?
And what are the what's the
worst case scenario?
I've learned this from Dr.
Jenny.
Create the worst case scenario
that you could make in your
head.
Oh my god, I have to take care
of my son, and and and if I get
laid off, then I don't have my
income.
I'm like, you have unemployment.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_05: You you'll have
unemployment.
SPEAKER_01: That's exactly
right.
You take the worst case
scenario, write it down,
identify it, whatever it is,
yeah.
Worst case thing you could
possibly come up with, give it a
solution.
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
SPEAKER_01: Or two or three.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: And it no longer has
power.
SPEAKER_05: That's right.
And that's what that was the
conversation we had while I was
sitting there.
And and you know, you had and
like then we got into, yeah,
then if I if I do that, then I
can't quit saving saving money
to to get the store up.
I'm like, I was here like six
months ago.
You said you were still saving
it, don't take that much money
to start a store online.
And she was like, Well, I
figured I need about$15.
What happened was And so I was
doing my research and and uh and
and my research tells me I need
about 15 grand so I can market
it right and and blah blah blah.
She's going through all this
stuff.
I'm like, you don't.
You have the best tool that you
can have in your hand right now.
And that is AI.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And so remove the
what ifs, remove the this
societal taught stuff that this
inner voice is telling you.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And just do it.
Because it's your monkey mind
and your energy and a fear of
failing that's got you held
back.
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
It's got you jammed up and not
taking any steps at all.
SPEAKER_05: So that's what bring
up the case.
Because she said, Well, how do
you know that's which voice is
which?
And so that's how the whole
conversation got brought in.
Because when I was in the
shower, it's like, how do you
teach somebody to identify that
voice?
Because there are multiple
voices and versions of it.
SPEAKER_00: Of course.
SPEAKER_05: You know, you have
the gut feeling, you have the
intuition, you know, you have
the monkey mind, then you have
your conscious thought, yeah,
then you have your subconscious
mind.
Right.
And then in some people's
beliefs, they have the little
devil on one shoulder and God on
the other.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it can look
like a many, many different
things, whatever the person has
created in their own bubble.
SPEAKER_04: Right.
SPEAKER_01: I think that for uh
beginners or novice coming in,
the the easiest thing to teach
is to ask yourself that
question.
How does it feel?
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: When that story
comes across in your inner
dialogue, how does it make you
feel?
Does it make you feel held back?
Does it make you feel fearful,
worrisome?
Like check in with how it makes
you feel, find that frequency,
find that vibration, yeah, and
practice doing that.
SPEAKER_05: Right, and that's
what I told her.
I said, when you ask yourself a
question, you're generally
speaking, your very first
emotional response is the right
one.
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
SPEAKER_05: And like, like for
example, if you think about you
thought about doing the store,
what was your very first
emotional reaction?
Oh, I was excited about it.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: So why'd you stop?
You know, and because because
generally speaking, and you can
ask as you can ask as
psychologists, anybody that
teaches about this topic,
uh-huh, that your very first
emotional response is the right
one.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
That's usually the true core
authentic response.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, because then
there's no before the monkey
mind.
SPEAKER_01: The monkey mind
kicks in and it starts trying to
protect you.
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
SPEAKER_01: Don't do that, you
might fail.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, what if
you fail?
Oh my god, oh my god.
SPEAKER_05: And yeah, that's so
that's where the the thought
came in this morning when I was
in the shower.
He's like, how do I how do we
teach that?
And and we teach about this, but
we don't specifically teach
about this subject.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's been a
long time since we've taught
about the the inner voices.
Yeah, the inner dialogue.
We talk about it being there,
right?
But I think the very first thing
to bring to your awareness is
when that conversation comes
about, stop right there, bring
into the awareness.
Okay, how do I just like you
taught her, just how do it, how
does that make me feel?
SPEAKER_04: Right.
SPEAKER_01: And if you're new to
the work, uh write it down on
something in a journal, in uh uh
your phone on the note page,
because you cannot remember
every single thing that's being
brought to every day, right?
Until you are many years into
practicing this or you have some
photogenic memory, you'll
forget.
And the key to all this is
awareness and habit changing.
SPEAKER_05: Right.
And this is what I that I want
to touch on this minute.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Because, like I told
her, I was like, that very first
impression and that very first
thought is right because then
here's a way to kind of give you
a modern day or reality thought
through it.
Is do you know when you check
out at Walmart or you check out
at Publix, whatever it is, and
you go down the aisle and you're
standing there waiting to check
out, and there's there's
something in one of those
aisles, you pick it up and you
buy it.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And she's like,
Yeah, we do it, I do it all the
time.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_05: Okay, when was the
last thing, last thing you
bought there?
She can't remember.
I'm like, okay.
So if it was such a negative,
would you not remember that
impulse?
That because that's the reason
why retail stores calls though
they call those the CTAs or the
impulse sections.
Is because they're impulse by
sections.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_05: Because people don't
think through it.
Right.
They just grab it because it's
last minute, you know, and
they'll they'll grab it, and so
it's an impulse.
Yeah.
And so it's that initial first
their initial first thought.
SPEAKER_01: Right, because
they're distracted on getting
through the line, getting in the
line, getting checked out.
What's the next thing I gotta do
when I leave here pre-planning
their next steps of the day?
So they're distracted.
And so when they find something
that visually is interesting at
those little impulse stations,
or you know, oh, you know what,
new candy's out.
That sounds good.
Let me throw that in the basket.
Or, oh, I've got a a child or
grandchild or myself.
I that uh okay, here let me do
that.
You don't pay attention.
SPEAKER_04: Right.
SPEAKER_01: You're not buying it
from a wait a minute, is this
something I really need and am I
gonna utilize it?
You just throw it in the basket
because it looked shiny.
SPEAKER_05: And it was the first
reaction.
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
SPEAKER_05: And that's what and
I told her, so how many of those
things that are in those aisles
that are you have just sitting
around not being used?
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
I don't think I have any.
Matter of fact, matter of fact,
I got one yesterday and there's
a half-eaten roll of uh Rolos.
And I was like, see, you're
using it.
It was an impulse buy.
It was your first reaction, you
bought it.
And so you know why they don't
put those out in the middle of
the of the grocery store?
Because then you have time to
think.
Right.
They don't want you to think,
they want you to react, have
impulse.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_05: And that's what your
conscious, health of the
conscious mind wants you to do.
Because if those rollos are
sitting out in the middle of the
thing and not in a great big
bag, you know, with just a
single roll, nobody's gonna buy
them.
Because then they know they're
gonna buy it right there.
And so all that little monkey
mind stuff starts coming into
play.
If you buy it now, you're gonna
eat it now, and then it's gonna
ruin your supper.
Or why would I buy the small one
when you get the big bag?
Or, you know, all the negative
stuff comes into play.
SPEAKER_01: I really need all
that chocolate and sugar.
Right, and what's it gonna do to
my diet?
And I don't need the extra
calories, or right.
SPEAKER_05: Right.
And so, and so that's what the
whole kind of conversation went
into was that kind of like a
grocery store scenario for some
reason.
And I was like, Why do you think
all the good stuff is on the
outside?
SPEAKER_01: And what did she
say?
SPEAKER_05: She's like, What do
you mean all the good stuff?
SPEAKER_01: Say more.
SPEAKER_05: I said, Well, all
the good stuff is on the outside
of the stores.
You have the produce right in
the beginning when you come in
because it's fresh, it's new,
smells good.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And then the
proteins are always wrapped
around the outside of the canned
goods around a grocery store.
And she's and she looks at me,
she's like, Huh.
SPEAKER_01: And then you usually
will have the cheeses, the
milks, that's right, the fresh
stuff that's perishable.
That makes a whole big circle.
SPEAKER_05: And I said, So why
do you think that they put it
there?
And she was like, I don't know.
I didn't re ever really even
notice.
Yeah.
I said they put it there, and
you did it because I mean, you
don't notice it because to you
it feels normal.
SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_05: But I can tell you
back in the day, I remember when
you would walk into a grocery
store and the first thing you
walk through was the canned
goods.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because they
were all stacked in some
organization.
And a big display, especially if
they were the one uh the item
that was on sale.
Del Monte, green beans, yelly
green giant.
SPEAKER_05: Right.
Would be right there in front of
you when you walk in.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_05: And so I said, So
think through your own
processes.
Why do you think that this all
the canned goods and all the
processed foods are in the
middle?
And then the the coolers now
have now been all moved to the
outside, and the freezer's are
actually in aisles.
And she said, Well, you know, I
was like, I don't know.
I and she goes, Well, I always
buy my freezer stuff last.
You're right.
That's a that's your you're
exactly right.
Now, why would you do that?
You know, why why what part of
your mindset would think the
last thing that I'm gonna buy is
freezer?
Oh, I don't want it to thaw out
before I get home.
You're right.
And so if you were if they put
that freezer section a minute
you walked in, which would be
your monkey mind, you wouldn't
buy anything because you'd be
afraid during your shopping that
all of your freezer stuff would
be thawed out before you got
home.
That's the monkey mind thought.
Because the reality is is that
food as long as it doesn't drop
below thirty two degrees or
warmer than thirty-two degrees
which on average takes six hours
from a frozen point to
thirty-two degrees is six hours.
And that I know that because I
said that's your monkey mind
making up things.
That's the monkey mind thought
process that comes in after you
walk in or after you do things
in your life.
Is that simple thought of my
frozen foods are going to be
thawed out before I get home.
And because of that, you buy
those fancy freezer bags that
absolutely do nothing.
SPEAKER_01: But what made the
store design it that way?
Because all they're all pretty
much designed that way.
SPEAKER_05: Well, yeah, the you
well, you can thank Walmart for
doing that.
When they first started doing
big groceries, they're the ones
that came out and changed the
grocery store layouts because
they studied it and all this
other stuff.
And the reason why is the
thought processes that we're
actually identifying right now.
SPEAKER_01: Is that
traditionally people go to like
the back of the store, come down
the middle aisle first.
SPEAKER_05: Well, that came from
a 1940s study or something when
people actually had ice boxes.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_05: Because, you know,
you would when you would reach
in and get your items out of a
grocery store back then, you
would either get your meats from
a life butcher.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Or it would come
from a freezing section inside
of a literally a dry ice box.
SPEAKER_00: I see.
SPEAKER_05: And so and they
would always tell you because
dry ice doesn't hard freeze
food.
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
SPEAKER_05: Unless you leave it
in there for a number like days.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And so then they
would so that's how started it
was that would be the last thing
they would buy.
But so then, you know, the the
others to part of that is is the
conscious mindset.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_05: Is the grocery
stores used to put all the
canned food as soon as you walk
in because they consciously
think to themselves, and it
doesn't make any sense that they
can buy this canned food and
it's going to be good in three
years from now.
Because it's got shelf stable
food.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_05: And so they would
buy it because it's safe to buy.
And so that's why they would as
soon as you walked in, all the
canned foods is right there.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_05: Because there that
was back then was the impulse
buy because they will last
forever because you're coming
off the depression and the war.
SPEAKER_01: I see.
SPEAKER_05: And so all that all
this has been trained thought
over the years.
And so that's how even retailers
and all these people use this
actual concept of the different
minds, the voices in your head
talking to you to sell things to
you.
And so, but the and and why we
got into this conversation, her
and I, I have no idea about the
grocery store, but I thought it
was a great analogy for her to
understand.
I think it was just given to me.
SPEAKER_01: It was probably the
way she could understand the
information.
SPEAKER_05: Because I'm not
putting the pieces together yet
in my own mind, but Okay, so as
we were I I mean, I I sat there
for 45 minutes, we were waiting
on the service guy.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I get it.
SPEAKER_05: And so the the whole
conversation and it ended up
going full circle.
But even still, I I when I
walked away from the
conversation, I was like, I
don't know if she understood
that.
She did, but she didn't.
The real depth of it, I think on
the surface, she understood what
I was saying.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_05: Because that voice
in your head in that moment and
that initial response is always
the right voice to listen to on
something that's positive.
So if you were to uh the impulse
buy buys that because and you
can't even identify it because
it's never a thought.
You just do it.
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I see
where you're going with it.
I don't necessarily agree that
that that initial impulse
thought is.
That's for you, Nani.
Right.
SPEAKER_05: This is this is
sorry, yesterday somebody one of
our listeners said she's always
correcting you.
And I think she enjoys it.
SPEAKER_01: No, it's just us
with our two different
perspectives agreeing to
disagree with that.
No, no, it's fine.
I don't necessarily agree with
that um perspective on the very
first knee-jerk response is the
correct one.
Because it it depends on where
you're at in your journey.
If you're still living in a
victimhood template or a
self-sopotage template, your
knee-jerk reaction could quite
well be to do something,
especially if you've not
identified that monkey mind
voice versus that and their
voice of higher self.
If you've not taken the time to
really study those and you've
got that confused, then and
you're reacting instead of
actually responding after
contemplation, then you'll
respond from a trauma drama
place and create more of what
you're getting.
Correct.
And that and that knee-jerk
response doesn't always prove to
be the most accurate response
for some people, depending on
what their perspective is and
what template they're working
from.
SPEAKER_05: Right.
So in and so uh this section I'd
like to actually touch about a
little bit.
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
SPEAKER_05: There's a study out
there called the Watson Riley
Study.
SPEAKER_01: Watson Riley Riley
Study.
SPEAKER_05: It's a sales
strategy thing from years ago.
Their theory is that anytime
somebody is negative or
uncomfortable with something,
they will immediately respond
with a question.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_05: So for example, you
say, Are you ready to buy the
car today?
And you're like, Oh, you know,
you get that inner energy like,
ooh, he just put the you know,
he just put me under the gun.
And then instead of saying, Oh,
that was harsh under the gun,
they say, Well, well, what do
you mean by that?
Why do you why I mean, or they
go into a question, and our
subconscious mind, when we're
dealing with a negative thought
process or a negative history
previous or a negative belief,
you will automatically do that
to delay conscious thought of
answering.
That's their theory.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh I I see
where that theory is beneficial
because uh subconsciously you're
looking for more data and more
input before you make that
decision.
SPEAKER_05: It puts you in an un
what they say is it puts you in
an uncomfortable spot and you're
buying yourself conscious time.
By answering by asking a
question.
SPEAKER_01: It can, for sure,
but it can also be revealing
that you don't feel like you
have enough information or data
to answer the question.
So therefore, you're asking
questions for more data so that
you can make an intellectual
decision and uh committed
response.
SPEAKER_05: You know, and
according to their to the study
that I read, I mean I read this
years ago, I don't even know if
it's still around, but the they
would say that that those that
are really engaged will actually
do a sub a question that's on
topic.
So that means that instead of
saying something stupid like
when you get are you ready to
buy today, they have that
pressure, that
uncomfortableness, and then they
snipe with it with a question
with a stupid question.
You know, that's not even on
topic really.
They'll have a question that
just deters conscious thought.
SPEAKER_01: Well, I don't know.
Is it supposed to rain?
SPEAKER_05: Right.
Well, you know, or or or or I
mean, can we do can you do the
paperwork?
It's something that's way off
topic.
It doesn't it's not in line with
the subject.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_05: And then they they
also say that if it's if they're
engaged but not ready and don't
have enough information, they
will respond with a question to
deny to delay conscious thought.
But it's on topic.
And so, yeah, oh yeah.
I mean, the the like for
example, well, you're ready to
buy today.
Well, what's my percentage rate?
That's an on topic line.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_05: Oh, it instead of
responding with, oh, well, I
wanna I want to look at this
other car first.
Can we go look at that?
That's off topic.
They've already picked a car and
he's now the salesman's asking
them to sell.
And so that's an op top an
off-topic question.
And so that's an
uncomfortableness that they're
not really engaged in it.
But the other question, or the
another response, is an inline
question that delays conscious
thought.
And so that's the question that
I'm getting at.
That's where this all t uh,
dang, I wish I'd have thought of
this when I was there.
I just talked myself right into
it.
That's how you tie the thought
process of what's the worst case
scenario?
That's an inline question.
Bam.
That's what I should have said.
You gotta ask yourself that
question.
What's the worst case scenario?
And that's an inline question
with what the topic is.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it can be.
But if you, for example, and
we're gonna take the car thing
for an example.
If if you feel like your budget
is not at a place where you can
afford right now to have that
car, and you go up and you visit
the car lot, and you are you
know, touching it, feeling it,
smelling it, collecting data of
okay, what's the licking
doorknobs?
What right?
Yeah, one of your favorite
things to to own it is to lick
it in various places.
So you guys buyer beware when
you're out there.
SPEAKER_05: There could be a
couple of fancy sports cars out
there that have been licked on
the door handle.
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, so gross.
You're gonna have so many people
out there wanting to wipe your
hand sanitize the doorknob
before they freaking open it.
You just never know where James
has been.
Yep, never know.
So if you're using it as a
realistic vision board and you
go, you know that you're you're
not there to make the purchase,
but you don't want to be
embarrassed or look silly
because you're wrapped up in
steal what they think of you, or
you don't want to just say to
the person, listen, I want to
own the car.
I just financially am not at a
place where I can do that yet,
or give myself permission to do
that.
I just came in to touch it,
smell it, taste it, and all of
that.
Because that kind of
conversation will put you in
that, oh my god, I'm kind of
weird category.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: And when you've got
a salesman barking down your
collar, that's not a
conversation people generally
are comfortable having because
they find it embarrassing.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, I do.
I agree.
SPEAKER_01: So by asking a
question, it's sometimes can be
you trying to avoid further
embarrassment.
And so you'll find that asking a
question gives you an outlet.
SPEAKER_04: Agreed.
SPEAKER_01: Um, well, what is
right uh what what what does the
2025 look like?
Can I look at that first?
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
SPEAKER_01: And that's you
buying time, yes.
I agree with, so that you can
devise that plan of having your
friend call as your husband
needing you to come home
straight away and you have an
emergency exit plan.
SPEAKER_05: That sounds like
you've said done that before.
SPEAKER_01: No, I'm taking it
off of a movie.
Oh, and so that you don't have
to give the person the truth,
which your monkey mind has
judged as this is gonna make you
sound really stupid, and this
guy's not gonna take that on and
not appreciate you tire kicking.
So you've got to come up with a
better way to it's escape plan,
emergency, emergency, emergency,
emergency.
So I partially do agree with
you, but then uh sometimes you
go in and you have every
intention to buy the car, and
you don't yet have enough data
to make a true informed purchase
because you want to know, yeah,
I'm gonna buy the car as long as
we can come to terms on the
interest rate or the retail
value of the vehicle and what
you're actually gonna sell it
for, or what what whatever those
components are.
So the question comes out of,
okay, sure, I'm I'm committed to
buy, but what is my interest
rate?
Right.
And so some of those questions
will come out of that
perspective.
Yeah, some of them will come out
of a perspective of buying time,
which I agree with, but you can
also have them come from n
needing more knowledge about
making the deal and negotiating
the deal.
SPEAKER_05: You know, and and
you know, when it comes to the
internal thoughts or those
voices that are in our head, it
can be very confusing.
And and and you have the
conscious mind that is being
confused constantly.
Yeah.
And like like I would like I was
telling her earlier, is it's
easy to be confused, and let me
tell you why.
You have car, you have you just
sit in front of the TV for an
hour, and how many times have
you been told different
directions to do things?
Like, for example, you'll see a
car commercial for buying a car,
it's on sale, and it's it's
MSRP, it's down five thousand
dollars off this weekend, you
know, and so you think, oh, it's
inspiring you to buy a car.
And then on then you have you
you have a a church group that
comes on TV and tells you not to
overspend and overuse credit w
because they wouldn't and and
then on Sunday they ask you to
to pay their tithes.
You know, there's many different
things.
Be healthy, have good food.
The next commercial talks about
some kind of prescription drug.
So you're being yo-yoed
constantly and becoming, and
that confuses your conscious
mind as well.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because those
are designed to trigger emotion.
SPEAKER_05: That's right.
That's what they're there for.
SPEAKER_01: You know, in the
marketing world, I believe I've
heard many times if you can
activate some emotion inside
that person, then they become a
customer more easy.
I teach it.
Right, exactly.
Um, and so yeah, it can be very
easy to become emotionally
charged and confused um in all
of that.
SPEAKER_05: And it doesn't
matter, like in the in in the
sales world, it doesn't matter
what emotion it brings up.
SPEAKER_01: Especially if you're
still in that place of caring
what other people think.
Right.
Especially if you're there.
Um, you know, because if you if
you go to town and somebody's
trying to like this just
happened to us the other day at
Walmart, and it's a very I see
it all the time.
You go into Walmart and you've
got that little phone person
that wants to sell you their
phone plan, and they will not
give up.
Oh my god, they are relentless.
You're trying to get emotion in
there, they literally will chase
you down the aisle even if you
say no.
So we walk by and this sweet
little girl trying, she was new,
I think.
But she wasn't new, she was
trying to get our attention and
trying to get us just to give
her a moment of our time so she
could do her cell pitch.
And the minute she started at
us, I was the one closest to her
because I have no qualms about
saying nope, no, thank you.
Not interested.
But she kept on.
SPEAKER_04: Right.
SPEAKER_01: And then you engaged
with her and said, Um, we
already have spectrum or
something.
Yeah, but she's still whatever.
Whatever you said to her, that
was kind of like, okay, he's
gonna give me the open door
access.
So she then started following
after us, but but uh but but but
and I was like, no, thank you.
And you were like, nope, we're
good, we already have it,
whatever, whatever it was.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, she's not new,
she just don't nobody's been
trained her at a sell.
That's the key.
SPEAKER_01: But nonetheless,
that's not the point of the
story.
The point of the story is you go
into places in your world, and
instead of being able to tell
that person, no, no, thank you,
you don't want to seem rude, you
don't want to seem um negative
because you've logged that
response as rude or negative,
you'll sit there and you'll
listen to the sales pitch.
And then inadvertently, what
ends up happening is they
convince you to purchase or buy
into the concept because you
don't want to appear to be rude
or whatever.
That's a trap that can happen in
the confusion state as well.
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
Agreed.
SPEAKER_01: Especially if you're
worried about what other people
think of your interaction with
your reality, with your right,
with your day.
SPEAKER_05: That's correct.
And so and to kind of because
this kind of marries together,
because what you just described
to me was learning to identify
your conscious voice.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And but in the
process of that is it also
identifies something else that
all kind of ties together a
little bit.
Was the salesman, you know, I
teach this, is when you get an
emotion out of somebody, when
you're in the process of a sales
process and you get an emotion
out of them, no matter what it
is, that is your identifier.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_05: If they're if they
go mad, like say if you're a car
salesman and and you bring up
their car, oh I'm so tired of
this car, or you know, or
whatever, now you've brought now
you've learned their emotion is
telling you where to go next.
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
If true.
SPEAKER_05: You become the hero
and get them a new car.
Or if they if you're um you
bring up, say you bring up uh
your the payment, and that it
makes them angry because their
payment was supposed to be a
hundred dollars less on the last
car they bought.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_05: And now you put
yourself into a spot of oh, I'm
gonna be the financial guider
through this.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: So let's identify,
and so that emotion identifies
the next process of the sales
process to the salesman.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_05: And your internal
voices do the same thing.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: But and so, like,
for example, if you're you're
you know, you brought up the car
shopping thing.
If you're there and when you go
to walk in and you have this, oh
my god, what everybody's gonna
be watching me, you know,
everybody and I'm just looking
at cars, and but I'm not gonna
say I'm just looking because I
want to build energy because I'm
using it as an active vision
board.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: You know, because
because of that conscious
thought is gonna create that
uncomfortable feeling, which is
the emotion.
And so the salesman reading that
is gonna, if the uh they're
gonna come up, introduce
themselves, and because of your
subconscious mind of the feeling
behind it, you're not gonna just
gonna come out and say, I'm just
here creating a actual vision
board or a real life vision
board, and 'cause I'm I'm gonna
buy this car, I'm just not gonna
buy it today because I can't
afford it yet.
Instead of doing that, us as
humans, we protect ourselves.
SPEAKER_00: Mm hmm.
SPEAKER_05: And that emotion is
what the salesman pick up on.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_05: And now so that's
why they That whole interaction
becomes uncomfortable.
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
And that whole interaction then
ends up being a depowerment.
Yes.
That's a ginism.
It's a genism.
And let me explain.
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
SPEAKER_01: On the consumer
side, you going in, creating the
visual board and feeling like
you're gonna be hackled at
because you're creating a vision
board and you're saying, you
know what?
Listen, listen, guy, I'm not
ready to purchase.
Back up.
I'm just creating a real life
vision board.
I just want to touch it, smell
it, whatever.
SPEAKER_05: Taste it, but don't
like it.
SPEAKER_01: The you're
pretending and that energy gets
read incorrectly, then you've
given that power to them.
SPEAKER_04: Right.
SPEAKER_01: So then they're
like, okay, well, what keeps you
from wanting to buy it today?
Well, I can't my budget won't
allow me.
Oh.
Well, guess what?
SPEAKER_05: Well, they're on
sale$500,000 off the MSRP.
SPEAKER_01: And I can get you
financed.
And so if I can get you a$50 a
month car payment, does that fit
into your budget?
And then you're trapped.
Then you're sucking.
I'm just doing worst case
scenario to get my point across.
SPEAKER_05: Right.
No, I understand.
SPEAKER_01: You've given your
power to them because you didn't
tell a truth because you monkey
mind said it's better to do this
and instead of being
embarrassed.
SPEAKER_04: Right.
SPEAKER_01: So you basically
handed your power card over to
the salesperson.
So now you have to deal with
more hackling.
You've got to deal with, you
finally have to come to terms
with, listen, I'm not ready to
buy yet.
Because you stop.
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I'm sorry, I got
a family emergency, I gotta go.
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
Because if you don't stop the
madness, next thing you know,
you're in their office, they're
like, okay, well, you know what?
Let's just run your stuff and
let's work up some numbers and
let's just see where we are.
And you're too embarrassed to
say no and stop the trajectory
of the train.
SPEAKER_05: Right.
SPEAKER_01: Then the Wayne
train, then you drink it.
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
That's a wow.
That brings back a whole old
memory.
Yeah.
I haven't thought about the
Wayne train in a minute.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
Then you've basically said,
okay, you know what?
Here's my satchel full of power.
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01: And now you feel
like he you're being hackled
into making a decision you're
not ready to make.
SPEAKER_04: Right.
SPEAKER_01: And so at some point
in all that interaction, you've
got to regain control and power
over your own power and and
stand up and say, No, I'm not
ready to buy.
And period, end of sentence,
stop the madness.
SPEAKER_05: Right.
And and that's that's you're
you're giving a prime example of
controlling the inner voice.
Because that's what you're
identifying in a real realistic
way to where the conscious mind
is doing the work.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because if it
just keeps making you feel worse
and worse and yuckier and
yuckier, then you know you're
not in the right place.
Right.
That is monkey mind voice, and
it keeps just creating another
layer and another layer and
another layer.
So ultimately coming to the
realization that the first
question to ask straight out of
the gate, how does this feel?
SPEAKER_04: Right.
SPEAKER_01: What is my emotional
guidance system telling me?
Right.
When that statement was made in
my inner dialogue head, what did
it first make me feel like?
Right.
Did it make me feel yucky?
Did it make me feel good?
And then from there you get to
decide and discern what is your
next step, what is what is the
next thing you're gonna do.
SPEAKER_05: Right.
And that's what uh you know, in
that same study in the Watson
Riley study, is that they talk
about how that first impression
and that first response is
generally the right one because
if you had any negative history
with it, the then the initials
response is not gonna be that
positive.
SPEAKER_01: Well, it can be or
it can not be.
SPEAKER_04: I agree.
SPEAKER_01: And the trip-up
point is if you've not practiced
identifying monkey mind versus
intuitive voice, when you are
given a real life next action
step, you won't be able to
identify it as that, especially
if you're in a victim
self-sabotage steel uh template,
you won't even be able to
identify the next action step
that you are supposed to take
because you'll inadvertently
still be trying to sabotage
yourself, right?
So there's there are some
trip-up points that go rabbit
hole, carrot sandwich much
deeper than that.
But on the surface, you know,
especially in the in the
business world, I know they
teach that if you're trying to
make a big decision, you just go
with that first knee-jerk
response, and that's always the
right one.
But in my area of expertise and
what I do, sometimes that's not
always the right one.
SPEAKER_05: Right.
And so, you know, I have sat
through many, many, many war
rooms of doing, you know,
strategic planning and and
guiding and for developing
business.
And I have sat in the middle of
many of those conversations with
hundreds and hundreds of people.
And it always seems, as crazy as
it may seem, that I can remember
that it always seems to fall on
the very first idea that came
out.
SPEAKER_01: And that in that
scenario, yes.
And that's a good premise to go
on, but I'll give you a
scenario.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, please do.
SPEAKER_01: And uh, we love you
so much, Danielle.
SPEAKER_05: Um you're gonna
bring her up.
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna use her as
an example.
Okay, she's okay with it.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: Uh so you know, when
you went in the other day to get
your hair cut, we were casually
talking about um her career
choices, and she was given an
opportunity.
Uh uh a gentleman crossed her
path and said, uh, they got to
talking about yoga or whatever,
and he said, I have a space you
can use during the day, and was
willing to let her utilize the
space for her own yoga classes,
and her knee-jerk response was
her monkey mind saying, I don't
know this man from Adam.
I don't what's the drink?
I'm not doing it.
What's what's the what's the uh
writing catch?
What's the the fine print, so to
speak?
So she was on guard.
And that that's because in her
physical awareness and in her
construct right now, she's not
given herself permission to
become the yoga instructor
full-time that she truly desires
to be.
And so when an opportunity did
present itself that could have
very well been a viable
opportunity, she had a very
closed and conservative
perspective about it and didn't
even let herself go and um you
know, put together a meeting
with this guy and ask more
questions or explore it further.
She was just like, Oh no,
there's weird energy there.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: And it's not an
opportunity, and you know, what
if, what if, what if.
That's all monkey mind.
There, she didn't even allow
herself to schedule a meeting in
a safe place.
The weird energy she was feeling
was not his, it was her own.
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01: It was her own
energy of not giving herself
permission to have this thing
that she subconsciously thinks
is not something that she can
have yet.
Yeah, she hasn't given herself
permission to have it without
being in the uh shadows of
somebody else that already has
it.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and see that
and that's the crazy part about
it, is how complex those voices
are.
SPEAKER_01: So that knee-jerk
reaction was not a healthy
knee-jerk reaction in that
scenario that I've provided.
SPEAKER_04: I agree.
SPEAKER_01: And so sometimes
there's gotta be some inner work
done so that you can even see
the opportunities that are being
presented to you and realize
what the next action step would
be.
You know, so in that scenario,
realizing, okay, you know what,
my first interpretation was uh
this feels weird and unusual,
but I'm gonna flag it as it's
not safe because I don't know
the person, rather than saying,
mm, wait a minute, this could be
a viable opportunity.
And even if what comes up is the
monkey mind saying, okay, this
is a male, I'm a female, I want
to meet with this individual, I
want to find out more, but let's
do it in a strategical manner.
Let me take someone with me.
Let's meet in a public place and
actually have a business
meeting.
Let me ask the questions I need
to ask, get to know this
individual.
Instead of having that kind of
constructive conversation with
herself and acting upon the
opportunity possibility, she
immediately shut it down and
said, mm-mm, the energy was
weird.
Maybe I'll look at it, maybe
whatever.
And in that scenario, her
knee-jerk response was not the
best response because she closed
herself off to potential
possibilities.
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's what I
was getting to earlier was in
that Watson Riley study, that's
what they talk about is if it's
a negative gen uh knee-jerk
response, that is attached to
some kind of a negative history
or belief or something behind
it.
SPEAKER_01: Within yourself
that's having the response.
SPEAKER_05: Because if it's a
happy quick response, that's
generally the right perfect
because it's a good happy spot,
and you don't have any negative
beliefs or anything behind it,
and that knee-jerk response is
almost always the right one.
And then if there's something
that you need to look at, you're
not gonna get like mad and upset
about it, you know, or a bit
bothered by it, or come up with
these monkey mind responses,
you're gonna be you're gonna ask
more questions.
This nature, this naturally.
You're gonna say, Oh, so like
like for this example you have,
it's instead of you know her
having that knee-jerk response
because there's some kind of a
negative belief behind it.
You know, like the other day
when we during yesterday when we
talked about our stuff, she was
all excited about it
immediately.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Because she didn't
have any negative responses.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And on this guy,
there's negative responses, that
means there's some kind of
history within her.
Right.
And then if it's something that
you need to look at, you're
gonna have logical questions to
ask.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: That's what they're
saying, and that's what and
that's what we teach too.
And that's how you identify
those voices on the end in the
those internal voices is by
asking by looking at those
things.
So if there's something that
comes into your reality and a
voice, and if it's a logical
question that you would bring
that comes to your mind, then
logically ask the question.
But if it's a negative response,
you need to stop and say, wait a
minute, what am I logically ask
what question?
Whatever it is, if something,
whatever that comes up.
So I see if something comes up
and it and you're not you don't
you're not upset about it, but
you're not unhappy about it, all
you do is have questions and
then there's something that you
need to look at or ask more
questions about because you're
either A, you're interested and
you want to know more about it,
or B, there's something you look
at within you.
SPEAKER_01: I see.
SPEAKER_05: And on the last, on
the if they say there's any kind
of a negative response, they
actually teach to go ahead and
continue with the motion because
it's going to come up to them
that it's something on them.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And that's where a
lot of people get confused with
those inner voices.
SPEAKER_01: Something on them,
meaning it's something on the
customer.
Yeah, something that they need
to look at.
SPEAKER_05: It's not the
salesperson's fault.
It's their there's some kind of
they've had some kind of a
negative history or whatever.
And I think it's a it's a very
good example on how to handle
the internal voices.
And if you have a you know, just
a knee-jerk response or wait a
minute, uh, you produce have
that knee-jerk response that's
happy and feel good, then that's
probably the right answer.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Then just do it.
Right.
Don't be scared, don't let your
monkey mind come in.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_05: Don't let your
subconscious mind come in.
You look and definitely don't go
talking to everybody about it.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Because, you know,
then now you're not only taking
your internal voices, you're
taking all theirs as well.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that's
right.
SPEAKER_05: That's that's
definitely right.
SPEAKER_01: We always say when
you have an idea, you know, keep
it to yourself for a little
while.
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
SPEAKER_01: And marinate with
it, especially if you're trying
to make a decision on whether to
act on it.
SPEAKER_04: Right.
SPEAKER_01: Because the last
thing you need is a bunch of
outsider naysayers or uh people
coming out.
SPEAKER_05: You don't want all
their history coming into your
your decision making.
SPEAKER_01: Telling their red
flags about their personal
experiences with a similar
situation.
You don't need all that garbage.
SPEAKER_05: And that is the
number one deterrent of of
sexual business, by the way.
SPEAKER_01: Is people that
external involvement.
SPEAKER_05: They they ask the
wrong people.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: You know, they'll
bring like a prime example is
the gentleman that we used to
work with years ago.
SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_05: That would go ask
the wrong people questions.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_05: And get all the
negative and all the red flags
and everything that they could
possibly give them because of
their history and their beliefs.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
And then he would make a
decision.
SPEAKER_05: And then he would
view them as expert decisions,
as expert, you know, witnesses.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
And then wonder why his reality
keeps looking the same.
SPEAKER_05: Same way.
And you keep going to the same
experts.
Right.
Exactly.
And so that's what the point.
And so that's why, you know, uh
I went to a seminar here many
years ago about this same
business decision making
purpose, which I've used it in
my personal life for many, many
years.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, do too.
SPEAKER_05: And that is if I
have a logical question about
something, no matter what, I go
to somebody smarter than me that
is an expert in that field.
Because you can pick up the
phone.
So you have a legal advice, or
nowadays we have AI.
You can pick up the phone and
ask.
unknown: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And AI is going to
give you generalized
cross-through, you know, how
it's coded questions.
SPEAKER_01: Especially if you
give it a command that you want
it to become I want you to
become the best attorney in the
world.
The best analyst in the world.
Go out, collect the information.
SPEAKER_05: Put on that hat and
let me know when you're ready.
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
SPEAKER_05: And and that's where
we we as human society get
confused in life about a lot of
things.
You have the marketing that's
wrong, you're bad.
You have, you know, you you're
not been taught the proper way.
And it's the number one holder
of success, by the way, is that
internal voice.
It keeps you from being
successful because you do not
know how to listen to them
properly.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
I mean, yeah, that that's right.
SPEAKER_05: You know, because
not once in my life.
SPEAKER_01: If you think about
it, you know, way back when the
whole the whole goal for the
collective primarily was to get
that person programmed to be a
factory worker, long-time
employee type concept for the
business owner because it made
sense.
So they sold the whole, you
know, be okay with just standing
in one place being a factory
worker because you're gonna get
your pension when you've worked
with us for a hundred and fifty
two thousand years and you get
to retire and you'll have a good
pension.
And that's how it was programmed
because it was a better uh
construct for the business
owner.
No turnover, longevity, all of
that.
Not because it was the best
thing for the person.
And so we were taught over time
to ignore the intuitive side or
that creative side that says, I
really don't like standing here
all day shutting these lids and
taping them together.
I would really like to explore
doing something.
SPEAKER_05: 590,000 a day.
Doing the same because I could
not do that.
I could not live in I could not
live in that world.
SPEAKER_01: Six hundred and
ninety-two years later.
Right, you know, here's the I
get my pension and can retire,
but I'm too old to enjoy it
because I'm a hundred and ten
years old and I can't walk
anymore.
SPEAKER_05: Did you know that
many years ago during the Reagan
found uh administration, he
actually stopped the law where
actually the government paid
through grants people to
reimburse their commercials.
SPEAKER_01: What what is that?
SPEAKER_05: What does that have
to do with the So it used to be
back when television first got
live and stuff, yeah, that the
government wanted the the
employers to buy spots so it
could grow the televisions.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_05: Grow televisions and
the in the spots, and it caused,
you know, it they're they're
having them expand the
television network through
giving businesses grants to
reimburse themselves from to
advertise on television.
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so the
business goes, they pay for
their commercial spot, they run
their commercial, but then they
get that money back from the
government through a grant.
Through a grant, and that went
on.
So that more businesses would go
on and do commercials to grow
the television experience.
SPEAKER_05: Yep, and you know
that that that bill and that
grant was under a tax grant
because it teaches it taught
people to like what they were
seeing on TV, stay an employee
for a long time, sell more cars,
and so everything went back to
to taxes.
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I see.
Behind the scenes taxes were
being used to develop this
grant.
SPEAKER_05: And the reason why I
did it is because they realized
that they got more money back
than they were putting out in
the grants.
So, like if you had a Chevy
dealership at Chevy did Chevy
commercial to buy Chevrolets,
the government gets the employee
tax, the business tax, the sales
tax.
You know, think really think
about that.
The consumer taxes.
SPEAKER_01: So the grant was
small compared to what they got
in return, the up uh the
upsells.
SPEAKER_05: Right, and what they
did.
SPEAKER_01: The increase of
people buying the sales because
of the commercial and the taxes
on all those different aspects.
SPEAKER_05: That's right.
And the reason why I brought
that up is because it's the
manipulation of your internal
minds as well.
Used to be completely government
funded.
And that's what you gotta
realize.
You should have logical thought
processes, and the people have a
tendency to not take chances
because of negatives, never
positive.
Never, never once can I look at
you dad in the eye and say that
I went and did something, I went
and learned the scuba dive and
and dive with the sharks in
Hawaii.
But yet I had a negative thought
process about it.
SPEAKER_01: Right, exactly.
Now I can tell you that there
were some healthy um
reservations around the unknown.
Yeah, but they didn't consume
me.
Right.
You know, like with Which is a
very good example.
SPEAKER_04: Good.
SPEAKER_01: There there were
moments in it where I was like,
oh yikes.
I gotta go underwater and trust
this thing in my mouth that I'm
not gonna take in a lung full of
water and uh that I think it's a
little bit more than a little
bit.
It wasn't fear, it was just very
heavy concern.
SPEAKER_05: But anyway, so to
kind of tie this all together is
to make you guys understand that
the internal voices are there
for a reason.
If you have a in anything that
you're doing in your life, not
saying you're gonna do it now,
but if you have something that
comes up and you have your
knee-jerk response is happy,
feel good, it's generally gonna
be ninety-three percent of the
time or ninety-four percent of
the time is what that study was,
the right decision.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: Now, if you have
something negative, if it's a
negative knee-jerk response,
then you have history with that
subject.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_05: And you should look
at it and then look at it, and
then go back and retouch on that
same topic.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
And so the the ruling here today
is if you're trying to decide
between an intuitive thought and
a monkey mind thought, go back
to the place of how does it make
you feel?
SPEAKER_05: The energy behind
it, correct.
SPEAKER_01: And check in with
that.
SPEAKER_05: Yep, I agree.
100%.
Yep.
I feel complete.
Very good.
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