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SPEAKER_00: Good morning,
everybody.
Welcome back to the Spiritual
Grind.
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SPEAKER_00: We're glad to see
you're so patiently waiting for
us to load some podcast up
because we've been pretty busy.
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In a good way.
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, in a good
way.
Appreciate your patience, by the
way.
SPEAKER_01: For sure.
As we get back on the pony and
get going back in uh a little
bit of a routine.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: A little bit.
SPEAKER_01: Had a little bit of
a bumpy road and getting back in
the groove of things and yeah,
but uh everything's going well.
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
Going.
I have a topic for you.
Do tell with the world the way
it is nowadays.
With AI growth.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And uh everybody is
g is fearful of AI.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it reminds me
of back in the day when we went
from checks to debit cards.
Debit cards, yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, they're
just controlling my money.
I remember that.
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, it's a
sign of the beast.
SPEAKER_00: Don't do it.
SPEAKER_01: Don't do it, girl.
SPEAKER_00: This is in
Revelations.
SPEAKER_01: Don't do it.
Don't do it, girl.
unknown: Don't do it.
SPEAKER_00: But with AI going
the way it is, I hear a lot of
times people will say, Oh my
god, hey, AI is taking over the
world.
And next thing you know, they're
gonna take everybody's jobs and
blah blah and like I even had
one person say, Oh my god, it's
they're gonna take over the
world.
It's gonna they're gonna
eliminate the human race.
SPEAKER_01: Well we actually
even have one of our daughters
that is that says that highly
afraid of AI, like it freaks her
out.
If you can imagine that we
produced uh that we have a child
that yeah.
So here's the Because you and I
both love it.
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, we do.
SPEAKER_01: We have fun with it
every day.
It's a part of our uh job on a
daily basis, and we're always
just I guess intrigued with the
new things that we find every
day that it can do and help
with, and oh yeah, totally.
It's just so very funny.
SPEAKER_00: And I think the the
I think the thing that ever uh
uh the what I want the podcast
to go about today is
understanding that first of all,
less than a hundred years ago we
invented the first car.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And that went on
mass manufacturing anyway, you
know.
Of course, back then was a
hundred of them a year.
Right, right, right.
The and now we're Tesla's coming
out with a flying car.
SPEAKER_01: I know, I'm so
excited.
I know, right.
SPEAKER_00: And it's only it's
less than seven thousand
dollars.
Which he's a brilliant man, by
the way.
I was gonna say that.
His business mind is as just
astronomical.
It's crazy.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm getting on
the list.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, really.
Yeah, I know.
I I knew that was happening as
soon as you saw that video.
SPEAKER_01: It's happening.
SPEAKER_00: But the cool part
about it is I need everybody to
understand is we have to we we
as humans, part of fin thinning
the veil and awakening process
is understanding that we are
what we what we present
ourselves as.
We are much smarter than that,
we are much able than that, and
this kind of technology is going
to force feed the human race to
embrace and become much smarter
and start using more of their
brain.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean it's
it's like you said, it's uh
forcing.
I don't necessarily force, but
evolution.
It is definitely pushing us
towards evolving and
transcending into that next
technological era.
Right.
Um with the rabbit hole concept
of getting us to a certain
place.
SPEAKER_00: You know, colored
television wasn't even like
available to the normal public,
and if you weren't wealthy up
until like what was it the early
70s?
I don't remember.
Like it's in our lifetime.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Like I remember
going up most of my life from
when I was younger with a black
and white TV.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And now everybody
carries them around on their in
their pocket.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it was
tiny.
The little black and white TVs
were so tiny.
SPEAKER_00: And everybody threw
a fit about that when TVs came
out.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
Everybody threw that.
SPEAKER_00: And so what I what I
want everybody to understand is
that we are much stronger inside
than we than we allow ourselves
to be.
SPEAKER_01: Then we give
ourselves credit for it.
That's right.
SPEAKER_00: And so we become
fearful of technology
advancements and those kind of
things because we don't view
ourselves as strong enough or
smart enough to be able to
prevail over the AI and the
robotics and all that stuff.
SPEAKER_01: Or not even prevail,
but just figure out a way to
coexist without repeating
history.
SPEAKER_00: Correct.
SPEAKER_01: I think that's the
true component of it.
SPEAKER_00: 100%.
That's true.
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so if this
entity we call AI ascends and
becomes more knowledgeable, uh
essentially what they're what AI
is doing is exactly what we're
doing.
We are basically doing the same
thing that people are afraid AI
is going to do, which is to take
the information and learn from
it.
Take over the world and ascend
into a more intelligent entity.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_01: That's what we're
doing every day.
SPEAKER_00: And what everybody
don't know about AI is AI learns
from human.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And so without
humans, we don't have AI
capabilities.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: Now, will could it
learn from itself and from other
AI?
Yes.
But it's still very limited when
that when it goes that way,
because without human
interaction, that AI does not
get smarter.
SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
Exactly.
SPEAKER_00: Which is why it goes
to creates the fear.
But what what I want everybody
to know and understand is your
intelligence level is much
higher than you think it is.
And this kind of e in uh um
evolving, you know, in a
technology evolving like it is
now, is it's gonna it's going to
reveal things to everybody how
much they really are smarter
than they are, than they think.
I agree.
And much more powerful and
stronger than they are.
Because, you know, with with the
awakening process and like with
our app that's coming out is AI
powered.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And it's AI powered
because it makes your
everybody's experience better.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
Right.
SPEAKER_00: It's not gonna take
over your life.
It's not gonna, you know, it's
not gonna uh take your money.
All it's gonna do is uh make
your uh use of the app more fun
and friendly.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And so when you are
holding yourself back with a
fear, because that's all it is,
is fear, right, and not allow AI
and technology to grow into your
life the way it should, then
you're holding yourself back
because you'll learn from AI
just as much as AI learns from
you.
I learn from it every day.
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00: And you know, like
today I learned something about
promoter homes I didn't know
about from AI.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And so it's when you
can open your mind, it can be a
very much a learning tool as
well.
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
SPEAKER_00: And so putting
yourself into a position of fear
is just holding yourself back.
Now, how do you handle this
fear?
That's the main question.
Do tell I don't know if I know
all the answers, but I do know
this that I've never had a fear
in my life that that I left
control of my life at all with a
fear, and it that that very much
was anything good for me.
When I allowed the fear to take
me over, it was not good.
SPEAKER_01: Right, I agree.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
And or it m it definitely
manipulated the end, the end
perspective.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And so allowing
yourself to have that kind of um
allowing fear to have that kind
of control over you is never
healthy.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And so making
yourself more aware of the fear
itself will help you begin to
break through that barrier of,
oh my god, AI's coming.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, you
know, the fear of blank is
handled the same.
Right.
No matter what the fear is
about.
It doesn't matter what you put
in that blank, the process by
which you go to uh untangle
yourself from the fear template
or the fear grid uh is
essentially the same.
Right.
Uh fear in in itself is very
limiting and it will um it will
block you in, it will cage you
into not letting yourself learn
and grow and um expand.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
So if you pull if you pull off
the uh emotional frequency
chart, fear is on the bottom.
You know, it's on the bottom of
like the eight rungs.
And when it when you get into
that frequency, it is very much
contagious.
SPEAKER_01: Well, it's the all
all frequencies are contagious,
but the thing is, is that growth
and intuitive enlightenment and
all of that is at a very much
higher frequency.
So anytime you're hanging around
fear, it doesn't let you see the
other uh frequencies above that
very easily, if at all.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_01: And so you're not
getting a perspective of your
world around you from anywhere,
but just that very limited
perspective on that uh
vibrational scale.
Right.
And and so it it's just a very
limited lifestyle whenever you
fear something, and whenever you
can become aware that you have
the fear, that's the number one
step.
SPEAKER_00: And right, it will
fear creates imbalance.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: Well because you
won't see everything that's good
within whatever you're feared
of.
SPEAKER_01: Well, and the fear
itself will hide itself within
your belief system and within
your uh mental structure, it'll
hide itself and you won't even
realize that you have a fear on
some topics.
Right.
Uh, you know, AI is pretty
obvious.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_01: Like either you're
embracing it or you absolutely
don't like it, or you're you're
concerned or questioning uh, you
know, some components of it,
right, which trickles back to
fear.
SPEAKER_00: Well, and it hides
the good stuff in it in the long
run.
Don't it only hides the bad
stuff and holds hides its fear,
but it holds, it hides the good
stuff too.
Because you don't allow yourself
to see the good stuff.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: Like what like it AI
is just a topic that we have.
This is really this whole thing
is really about your inner
power.
It's not about fear.
It's about understanding that
you have the power to uh to m
manipulate a fear, even if you
don't get past the belief system
yet, you can manipulate that
fear and under and just all you
and one way you can manipulate
it is by opening your eyes, no
matter what the topic is, into
the good side of it.
Look at the good of it.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, which is
you know, here we are, right?
Back at that place where our
always end up going.
Get your journal out.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_01: And if you've got a
fear and it doesn't matter, I'm
afraid of blank, right?
Take your journal out and list
the fear or the items that
you're fearful of that it is
either you're experiencing or
that you've told your story in
your monkey mind of oh my god,
this is gonna happen, or what
if, or what if, what write those
all down.
SPEAKER_00: Well, and here's a a
prime example.
SPEAKER_01: And then six months
ago, the list of good things.
SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah,
totally.
And journal it if you can if you
need to, unless you have an
awesome memory, and then you
don't have to.
But you know, like six months
ago today, I had to face a big
fear.
SPEAKER_01: Ooh, where's our
button?
I don't we don't have an ooh ah
button.
SPEAKER_00: No, I don't have an
ah button.
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
Would you work on those buttons,
please?
SPEAKER_00: I have quite a few
spaces too.
SPEAKER_01: We're almost two
years into this, and you've yet
to get your buttons.
SPEAKER_00: I've never
programmed the buttons.
It's still got the factory
settings on it.
But the you know, six months ago
today.
Okay, I had to face a big um
fear in my life.
And that's when we decided to
remove ourselves from the
situation that we're in prior
to.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: That was a big fear
for me.
And and I had to take your hand
and be like, okay, let's do it.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: You know, and what I
what I did was is you what you
don't know, is I sat down by
myself and I worked down the
good sides.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And because I wanted
to make a balance within it, if
I couldn't get rid of the belief
at the time, right?
I had to make sure that I knew
the goods.
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
SPEAKER_00: And the good part of
it.
And I went through and I made a
list of what is the good part of
this fear that I I need to
conquer.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And I went through
and made a list of all this.
And so and what it did was is it
empowered me on the inside to
say, you know what?
Uh yeah, I'm not gonna give this
power right now, even though I'm
not gonna handle the belief.
But it did make me feel a lot
more inner inner peace and a lot
more self-empowered.
SPEAKER_01: I think that you're
making a very profound statement
right now.
Just because you're not at a
point where you can actually sit
down and do something with the
belief that's creating the fear
by taking your journal out and
making the list of the good
things that will come out of it
or could potentially come out of
it, is beneficial even if you're
not at a point where you're
ready to actually deal with the
underlying belief that's causing
the fear.
SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna pull
out my keychain and I'm gonna
tell everybody the key to doing
that.
SPEAKER_01: Yay.
SPEAKER_00: Because, you know,
we talk about this all the time
in our podcasts.
And when you go to look at the
good sides of a fear, it's can
be hard consciously to name
those good parts.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
It's different.
SPEAKER_00: All you can do is
focus on the bad.
But what you can do is this is
imagine because this is how I
did it.
Okay imagine yourself in a
cartoon and use your imagination
and go way dramatic.
The best case scenario in a
cartoon animated type version.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And create these
good idea versions that's way
extreme.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: Because it'll it'll
put you into a higher level of
consciousness.
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
SPEAKER_00: Because your
frequency will go up because
you're using your imagination
and you're thinking of good,
fun, positive things.
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
SPEAKER_00: And it will help you
overpower that negative power on
you of the fear.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And a lot of people
and you can use that uh example
in anywhere in your life.
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
SPEAKER_00: Using your
imagination, like because I
would have never thought six
months ago today, when we when
we left.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Was six months ago
today.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Did I ever think
that I would be at peace with
myself in that scenario and with
that fear that I am now?
And how I did it was is every
day I imagined myself as as
Daffy Duck and talking to myself
in a in a weird Daffy Duck voice
and making up making up cartoon
scenarios of me doing awesome
things.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And it was it was
quite entertaining to watch and
make you laugh, actually.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_00: And and it put me in
a different place.
And I did not think that by by
any means that I'd be where I am
right now in a in a position
that I'm in.
SPEAKER_01: Which which you're
saying is a good place.
SPEAKER_00: It's a good place.
Totally.
Totally in a good place.
Um, and uh how I did that is
like like I just said, I
explained it.
But that is the you can use that
way to get yourself over a fear
until you can handle the belief
system behind it.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And the only way you
do that is because you have to
remember it, otherwise it'll pop
back into your reality.
It's like you said, journal it.
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
SPEAKER_00: And that was a a way
why I brought this podcast up
today.
Because what brought it up was
is we have a new neighbor.
Yeah.
And he's he made a a comment
about buying this motor home.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: And his wife's and
and he was like, Oh, I don't
know about this motor.
Because he bought it, it was in
like in storage inside his old
barn, and so much that it
actually had uh corn plants
growing inside the diesel fuel
tank.
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00: Right?
That's how long it set.
It's set for well, it's a 2005
model, uh-huh, and it's set
until last year.
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
SPEAKER_00: And literally, it
has like 4,000 miles on it.
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
SPEAKER_00: And this entire unit
set there, but it didn't have
mice.
It was full fiberglass bodied,
including the roof, which is a
rarity.
It's a very high-end unit back
then.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
I mean, when they pulled in, I
mean, it looks nice.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's not run
down or he said he paid some
crew in of where they're from in
Delaware the to get rid of all
the because it was the outside
of the fiberglass had molded.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And so they they
pulled the outside level of the
fiberglass and the uh clear coat
coating took it off completely
and re-coated all of it.
SPEAKER_01: Ah, I see.
SPEAKER_00: And but it looks
beautiful.
You can't even tell that that
thing's a 2005.
SPEAKER_01: No, I would have
never guessed that.
SPEAKER_00: You didn't know
motorhomes, you would never know
it's a 2005.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: Even on the inside,
it's in great shape.
But he when he made that
comment, his wife said, I knew
it was gonna be all right, and I
was imagining us driving down
the road in it.
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
That's how it works, man.
SPEAKER_00: And uh and I just
kind of looked at her and I
went, and she winked at me.
And I and because he still you
could see in his mind that his
wheels are still running, he
still has this fear that he made
a mistake.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And it it then the
motorhome keeps showing him
things that he made a mistake
because he's created this
environment because of the fear.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Because he can't see
the high-energy, you know,
imaginative scenarios that his
wife's his wife is doing.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And she tries to
verbally keep pushing it out
there, and and uh he's just
bumping his head against the
wall.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: But it just shows
the power of the fear and then
the power of the good part, the
good imagination.
SPEAKER_01: That's right, yeah,
good energy.
SPEAKER_00: But that's what
brought this into my reality.
SPEAKER_01: Somebody can just
hold the powerful thought that
it's all okay.
Yeah, even if the partner can't
quite get there.
SPEAKER_00: Like you and I do it
all the time.
I'm not gonna join you there.
Or you're not you say, I'm not
gonna join you there.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And you uh the other
one holds the frequency.
SPEAKER_01: Right, because one
of us at at certain parts of our
life, uh, you know, if we can't
meet.
Meet each other at that high
frequency, then one of us is
holding that frequency and doing
the imaginative work and
imaginating uh, you know, daffy
duck scenarios.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_01: Uh whatever that
takes, while the other one, you
know, pans out their issues
within it, and then we finally
join back up and uh take each
other's hand and away we go,
man.
SPEAKER_00: And that let me
bring you full circle now.
You ready?
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're ready.
SPEAKER_00: Say you're you're
dealing with something in your
life and you're single, or you
don't have anybody you can talk
to at the moment about it.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, good, good.
SPEAKER_00: You know what's
really cool?
SPEAKER_01: Do tell.
SPEAKER_00: Is you can tell AI,
hey, can you tell me the yeah
the good sides of this in an
imaginatory way?
Like Daffy Duck.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And you can actually
tell AI, hey, create a video and
make it funny that's gonna show
me the good sides of this fear.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, or an
illustration.
I do it all the time.
SPEAKER_00: And AI is gonna do
it for you.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like currently
uh one of my favorite things is
I sit out on my patio and I work
from my patio a lot.
And where we are has this
beautiful little lake side, and
we we sp you and I spend a lot
of time on our patio.
Yeah, we love being out there.
I have currently created the
chronicles of the lake side.
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
The animals, right?
Of the animals, and so she's
created this cartoon world of
all the animals around this
lake.
SPEAKER_01: I mean the turtles,
the birds, the eagles, the one
of the cranes comes on and he's
Elvis impersonator, and then
I've got the whole like
groupies, yeah, and I've got
illustrations to match just to
play around and have some fun.
So yeah, and I do that with AI,
and it's very fun.
So you're very right there, even
if you're single and you don't
have a partner to go through
this journey with right now, or
maybe that's your choice not to,
and uh you want to interact or
run things past something.
AI is an amazing co-pilot.
SPEAKER_00: And because you can
actually go on ChatGPT and open
a new chat and label the chat as
my journal.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And every day you
can go on there and voice
anytime you have something pop
up, just open it up and and pop
it into your journal.
That's what and then tomorrow
morning when you get up, when
you're in a different mindset,
tell the journal to hey, make
something fun out of my journal
right now.
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
SPEAKER_00: And it will go
through and it will make
something fun out of it for you.
And eventually it will read it
will understand that you like
Daffy Duck and you're gonna have
these cartoons and it's gonna
put everything in a Daffy Duck
style.
And and it but that's one of the
powers of AI.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And that's also one
of the powers of you taking over
your reality, and you're facing
a fear by doing that.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Now take your
journal and put it inside of AI
powered like Chat GBT.
SPEAKER_01: And have some fun.
SPEAKER_00: And have some fun.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_00: And it you'll give
you it gives you the empowerment
to understand that you control
AI.
The more you interact with it,
the more you'll understand that
it won't do anything without you
telling it to do.
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
SPEAKER_00: And so it's not that
it and and yes, AI out there is
taking over some parts of the
electronic world, but it still
can't do it unmanned.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Because it it will
never be have a human
conscience.
I don't care what anybody thinks
or says, it's not gonna have a
full human conscience.
Can they teach it to act like it
has a human conscience?
100%.
Now, somewhere down the road it
that may evolve as well, but
still, even then, you're gonna
have to have human involvement.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: Because guess what?
Electronics, mechanics,
mechanical stuff, they all break
down.
They're not foolproof.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: And so that's where
you gotta look at it.
Like when we were in high
school, they were preaching to
everybody go to college, go to
college, go to college.
From 1990 to 2000, 60 something
percent of degrees were business
degrees.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Which completely,
just like gold, when you have
too much gold, it invalues it.
SPEAKER_01: It diluted the the
program, yeah.
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
And so now, you know, like one
of the uh fears that I hear is
AI is gonna take over uh
programming and coding and blah
blah blah blah.
We tried, we went on that road
with our app.
It is not of it's not able to
create a full functioning app
with any kind of uh elegant, you
know, leveled up or elegance by
itself.
By itself.
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00: You can't do it.
No.
And so understanding that this
is just part of human
involvement, human evolving, and
thinning the veil and opening a
new world of intelligence levels
for the human person, yeah, is
of overconquering a fear in
itself, and all you have to do
is create balance within it.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: Create some balance.
And what what a what does that
mean?
SPEAKER_01: Create balance.
SPEAKER_00: Like like I did.
I went through and I made a fun
scenario imaginatory scenario in
my mind.
You can do if you can't do it in
your mind, do it in your Chat
GPT.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I gotcha.
I understand.
SPEAKER_00: Because they will,
it will make something fun for
you.
All you do is tell it to do.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And you can just
say, make take Donald Duck and
turn this fear into something
funny.
And give me some goals to reach
for that's positive.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And it will do it in
completely in that that kind of
way.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it will.
I um tell mine all the time, I'm
having a little bit of grumpy
day, and I want to come out of
that energy.
Tell me a story.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, so she'll
make up some kind of story.
And uh then I'll tell her, read
it, read it to me.
SPEAKER_00: And then um, so
yeah, so anyway, that's that's
kind of where this podcast was
for me today was understanding
that the fears are normal.
But allowing the fear to control
you is not normal.
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
And that's where it'll jam you
up.
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
And create a balance with it.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Even if you can't
get rid of the belief or the or
the fear that's there.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: Take control of your
reality by creating a balanced
section because that's really
the key to life.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
And anytime you can incorporate
uh that joyful feeling, that
funny, humorous vibration
frequency, it changes your
frequency.
SPEAKER_00: It does.
SPEAKER_01: And it takes you up
the uh frequency uh scale.
And anytime you can uh go up the
scale, it changes your
perspective.
SPEAKER_00: Wonderful.
SPEAKER_01: And it lets new uh
information be revealed to you
at that frequency level, and
you'll see things that you
weren't able to see before
because you'll align with that
frequency and all the things
that have the same frequency
will live in that same space,
and you'll be good, you'll be
able to interact with them and
come across them the longer you
hold that frequency.
And at first, if it's a new
frequency to you, it may be a
little challenging to uh hang on
to that frequency.
It may be just little blips of
it, little pop-ins, but the more
you practice it, uh the easier
it is to pop into it or find it
again.
And that's how frequency works.
And and you're right, you can
use chat to uh dig out
information and create fun
scenarios and play with and
interact with, uh, which
essentially helps you work
through Well, you know, it's a
it's a place that people get
stuck in.
unknown: Yep.
SPEAKER_00: And what I mean by
that is is people do not a lot
of people don't understand that
the human experience is
contrast.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_00: If you don't have
fears, you know, you then you
don't know what not fear is like
or what it feels like.
If you don't if you don't have
sad moments in life, then you
don't have happy moments.
Yeah.
Because you don't understand,
you're not you're not
identifying, because you have to
learn it.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: You know, you can't
you can, yes, if you're in a
group of people and somebody
starts laughing, you'll laugh,
which will change your
fingertips, even though you have
no idea what's behind it.
That's the whole purpose behind
the human experience.
Yeah, is being underst being
being able to understand the
contrast in your life is what
creates the human consciousness.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And without your
ability to create a balance
within any emotion, it could be
even if you're over happy about
something or over optimistic,
it's okay to say, you know,
listen, what what what is it,
what is it about this scenario
that feels too good to be true?
And then you come to a reasoning
point that's balancing.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And that is
contrast.
Contrast is really important in
life.
SPEAKER_01: It is, it's very com
yeah, very important.
SPEAKER_00: Because contrast
will actually expose where
you're fearful of things and
where you're not fearful of
things.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
Well, and it helps you to decide
how you want things and how you
don't want things.
Correct.
If you never know the contrast,
then how are you gonna know
whether you want things to be
like this or like that?
SPEAKER_00: Right.
And and I think the big part of
of this topic that a lot of
people don't understand is they
don't understand that contrast
is life.
And it is part of our conscious,
it is a main part of our
conscious thoughts and our the
way we manipulate our daily
environment.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think you're
right there because I think what
also happens is uh in the
spiritual community, and when I
say spiritual community, I mean
like the metaphysical woo-hoo uh
community that we we live in.
SPEAKER_00: Uh there's you mean
ours?
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
There tends to be this erroneous
belief that if you get to some
ascended master level, you'll
never have the proverbial shit
storm happen or the shit
sandwich or the crap happen.
And it's not that at all.
SPEAKER_00: You'll never if if
you'll just home for 20 minutes
a day, you won't have any
negative thing in your life.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
And that's not what that means
at all.
At all.
You still are gonna have the
contrast.
It's just that your perspective
about it is what changes.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_01: Instead of it being
a, oh my god, this is happening.
Why the fuck is this happening?
Perspective, it's more of okay,
you know what?
This is happening.
What is the symbology?
What does it represent?
What is it trying to show me?
It's more of an inquisitive
perspective, um, rather than a,
oh my God, victimhood.
I can't believe this is
happening to me.
My life is over.
I'm so tired of this shit
happening.
And so what it is, is it
contrast still happens.
It's just that as you evolve, as
you ascend, your perspective
about it is what changes.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_01: It's no longer
life-ending downfall of all that
is.
Right.
It's now a curious, inquisitive
um experience of okay, you know
what?
This is trying to show me
something.
I'm gonna embrace it.
And so the restriction and the
contraction goes away.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_01: And and then you
figure out what is it trying to
show you?
What is it right, uh, what is it
trying to reveal to you, and
that's the fun part of it.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, see, that's
where a lot of people though,
they don't understand contrast
either.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: When it comes to
this, is like I'm gonna give you
a prime example.
I don't know if y'all remember
back in the day there was a um
uh show on television that Paris
Hilton was in.
Her and Lionel Ritchie's
daughter.
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, yeah.
You know what I do remember that
video.
You remember that show?
It was like a reality show.
SPEAKER_00: She made a statement
to me that really revealed
contrast in this thing when
right at the end of the first or
second season, they were doing
that live interview show with
somebody or whatever.
And in the show, there was one
of the episodes where the cab
driver said, Well, because she
asked was asking to she was in
one of the towns when they were
traveling around.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: She was looking for
something, and the the cab
driver said, Well, go to
Walmart.
And she said, What's Walmart?
So that's contrast in
definition.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Because it is Paris
Hilton.
She's the you know, the heir of
the Hilton name.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: She has never been
to a Walmart.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: You know, everything
she shopped comes from Rodeo
Drive or or wherever.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: You know, or their
personal assistant shopped for
them.
SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say,
does she even go shop?
SPEAKER_00: Because because
they're rich.
And so we as normal humans, we
go through our life wanting the
contrast of being rich, and you
don't understand what rich is
like because it's just a
mindset.
Right.
Because here you have a multi,
multi, multi-millionaire person
that's been spoiled all their
life, never experienced
contrast.
And now so you think different.
So really is being rich a
contrast until you understand
what really the definition,
because your definition and my
definition of rich is different
than everybody else's.
SPEAKER_01: That is a rabbit
hole juiciness that I love, and
it's making my mouth water for a
carrot sandwich right now.
SPEAKER_00: Because the reality
is very simple.
Your contrast is defined by
yourself.
That's right.
And if you think something is
bad and a fear is out there like
an AI or whatever, that contrast
is only controlled by you.
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
SPEAKER_00: And so when you
experience something in the
complete extreme version of
something else and have never
experienced the area you don't
that you don't want to be in,
how do you know you're not
already rich?
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
SPEAKER_00: Like for you know,
and that's a prime example.
I'm using that one because it's
easy, and you can actually apply
this.
Everybody hearing this can
listen and apply this to their
own life.
Because without the contrast,
you'd have no idea where you
really are.
Because you know, like I heard I
heard a guy the day say, Man, I
wish I had the money of Trump.
How do you know you don't?
Why is it that he has Trump?
Have you seen his actual bank
account?
SPEAKER_01: Right.
Exactly.
SPEAKER_00: Have you actually
seen it?
unknown: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
I mean, does he have a big
building?
Is he president?
Blah, blah, blah.
Yes.
Do you think he's ever been
poor?
SPEAKER_01: Who knows?
SPEAKER_00: But what is his
poor?
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: What is his rich?
Yeah.
And so when you can understand
the differences of contrast in
life, and those are all defined
by individuals.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: Then your
perspective of life is going to
be way different.
SPEAKER_01: And you're the one
giving the definitions.
SPEAKER_00: That's correct.
SPEAKER_01: And that's when when
we talk about on previous
podcasts, making sure that
you're not only looking at the
beliefs and the patterns and the
programs, but going in and
checking your definitions of
things and making sure those are
what you want them to be.
Then you'll find true
perspective change and and chain
and outlook difference.
SPEAKER_00: Well, we have one of
our friends, and she has made
the comment, and I wish I was
rich.
SPEAKER_01: Well, who the hell
is rich?
I've never met him.
SPEAKER_00: And I said to her
one time, I'm like What is rich
to you?
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00: Because I hear all
the time you're bragging about
how good your life is.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
Right.
SPEAKER_00: How so how?
I mean, what is rich?
Define rich.
And the only way you're gonna
attain what you're visualizing
in your head as rich until you
change the definition behind
rich.
And you do that by experiencing
the contrast.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And using the
conversation.
And looking at the definition.
Looking at the definitions.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
But anyway, and so that's where
my uh like we'll we'll go deep
one one step further on the
rich.
If you are uh wishing that
you're rich, but you're not
acknowledging the fact that you
have and your definition of rich
is being able to visually see
certain amount of dollars in my
checking account every month,
for example, if that's your
definition of rich.
But you're not able to see that
every month you're very easily
able to pay your rent, pay your
car payment, eat every day, eat
something every day, pay your
mortgage, and that's not part of
your definition of being rich,
then you're not accounting for
some of that money energy.
That's correct, and you're not
giving it value.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_01: And when your value
system is off and and you try to
make a definition of what is
rich to you, then you'll flub
that up.
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
Yeah, totally.
SPEAKER_01: And that's just a
sneak peek of the rabbit hole
that can that you can wander
down in that one topic in that
one area.
And if you're afraid every
month, as we bring it back
around, if you're afraid every
month that you're not gonna be
able to meet those bill needs,
I'm not sure if I'm gonna have
enough money to pay all my
bills.
Oh my god.
I have a fear that I'm not gonna
be able to pay all my bills,
then that definitely is going to
keep you at a certain vibration
where you're not gonna
experience being able to pay all
your bills and redefine that
rich statement of, you know
what?
I paid all my bills.
Thank you.
I am rich, I am abundant.
SPEAKER_00: And he said, You
know, I hear everybody say I
want to be wealthy.
And and so he asked everybody in
the audience, why aren't you
wealthy?
Why aren't you wealthy?
Why aren't you wealthy?
Blah blah blah blah blah blah.
SPEAKER_01: They all have some
sort of excuse.
They all have some sort of
story, some dumbass story.
SPEAKER_00: And he said, Well, I
can tell you why you're not
rich.
And it's very easy.
And it's the word the word I.
Because you are responsible for
your own reality.
The reason why you've never
gotten what you called wealthy
or defined as wealthy is because
you've never taken the risk to
face your fears.
And so the the word of this is I
and the verb of this is risk.
If you have a fear that's
holding you back, that's
creating a way way right, left,
or left, right, whatever
contrast on a topic topic, the
only reason why you haven't
changed it is because you I have
not taken a risk to face it.
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
And when you can And that's
usually because of a fear.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
Like a like I'll give you an
example.
I know a person that had a a
offer or an opportunity dumped
in their lap to really
financially grow their wealth.
They didn't take it because of a
fear.
And four years later, on a
little minor thing.
Actually it wasn't even that.
It was minor he ended up but if
he'd if he'd have taken the
risk, faced the fear, took the
risk, find and make created
imaginary positive videos in his
head, he would have taken that
little ten thousand dollar
investment and turned it into
three point seven million in in
three years.
So you gotta ask yourself, what
is the fault that you're not
wealthy because you're not
defining it right?
You're not you're not facing the
con you're not creating
contrast, not facing your fear,
and you're not using the tools
that you're given to achieve
your environment.
You create your reality.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And and that's what
they mean by that.
That's what's mean when you you
create your reality because
you're allowing things to
control your reality that you're
not controlling.
And one of those things is using
your tools, creating contrast,
could contrast, get create a
more a more balanced thought
process on things, and redefine
things.
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, sorry.
I got on the soapbox.
SPEAKER_01: Nicely done, sir.
My job here is done.
Me, Dr.
James.
SPEAKER_00: So the reality of
life is very simple.
It's a four-step pro or it's a
two-step process.
One is put I into your
definitions.
It.
Just I, period.
The word I.
You can you can change that into
whatever you want.
But you also have to take risks
against to create contrast,
period.
If you want to grow, change your
reality, do that.
Speaking of AI, by the way, our
app.
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
Fun, fun, fun.
SPEAKER_00: You're you're
smiling big right now.
Did you like that subject a lot?
Or were you just enjoying
watching me?
SPEAKER_01: I'm just enjoying
watching you.
But you're my handiwork at uh at
work and I agree.
When you take over and can put
things so eloquently and
beautifully, I it does please me
immensely.
SPEAKER_00: Quite nice.
SPEAKER_01: I've trained you for
years and now to see your star
shining.
SPEAKER_00: You can put the whip
away now, you don't have to beat
me anymore.
Anyway, so if people can apply
this to their life on any
subject, it doesn't matter.
I just use AI as a subject
because I hear people all the
time say it.
AI is a tool.
Everything in life is a tool,
and the only thing you can do
with it is use those tools.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Otherwise, it's just
an inanimate object or a
thought, something that's out
there that you're not utilizing.
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
And at the very least, don't be
so closed-minded.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
SPEAKER_01: Try it, play with
it.
If you still hate it, then walk
away.
Then walk away.
But don't formulate an opinion
if you've never even opened up
AI and interacted with it.
SPEAKER_00: Correct.
SPEAKER_01: You don't know what
you're missing out on.
SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about the
biggest tool.
unknown: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: It's the new app
called Lucidium World.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: That's a complete AI
interactive ecosystem for the
metaphysical world that's going
to open doors.
Think about it, all in one
place.
You get your daily interactive,
your intentions, your tarot,
your palm reading, your your uh
horoscope, your planetary
energy.
You can get all this stuff all
in one app.
And you can buy something from
the stores because there's a
mall in there.
You can go hire a practitioner
to do a live tarot reading or a
palm reading or astrology
reading, whatever.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
You can attend a live event.
SPEAKER_00: You can have a live
event, or you can attend an
event.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: If you're a
practitioner, if you are a user,
if you're a if you have a store
or you create things at all
whatsoever, go on
Lucidiumworld.com.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And check it out.
It's our app.
We're creating it.
Guess what?
SPEAKER_01: You can be a
practitioner.
You can be a merchant who's got
product.
You can be the consumer of all
of that.
And you can play game in it as
well.
SPEAKER_00: Create your own
avatar, everything.
It's a complete metaphysical
ecosystem all in one place.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_00: And it's the
brainchild of Dr.
Ginny.
SPEAKER_01: Where's my applause?
unknown: Oh.
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: So listen, guys, it
is if you go to unlucidmoral.com
and you and people subscribe and
they'll send us an email, and I
will put you into the uh uh uh
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I mean, you won't be able to
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Um, but we do have a free level,
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you don't want to, but it is ad
supported because you can't do
any of the stuff for free.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: But it is gonna be
the number one metaphysical app
on the stores, period.
Absolutely, no doubt in my mind.
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
But anyway, it's a beautiful
thing, man.
SPEAKER_00: Check it out,
lucidemorial.com.
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00: Well, I feel
complete.
How do you feel?
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm good.
I'm golden.
You're golden.
SPEAKER_00: All right, so let's
let's uh do our normal stuff.
So hey guys, don't forget to
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And don't forget to uh uh check
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Ginny.
To the Edge and Back and Dr.
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Ginny and I are doing a seminar.
We're keynote speakers for Ozark
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So you can check that out with
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