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Speaker 1: We're back on air.
For some reason we had a
technical difficulty there.
Speaker 2: Yep, whatever was
being talked about.
Obviously it wasn't time for
that to be out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we still have
to edit this together.
I don't know what caused that.
Speaker 2: Of course you do.
Speaker 1: Well, of course, we
were talking about a topic that
needed to be stopped, I reckon.
I reckon so but anyway.
So the contrast that we were
talking about previously I think
, moving on to the next subject,
because obviously we weren't
supposed to talk about that is
the fact that contrast is a
natural part of evolution,
Because if you don't know what
you don't want, you won't ever
know what you do want, and the
contrast in between those is
what helps identify those.
And so understanding that
contrast in a relationship
happens is a big stepping stone
in a relationship, do you agree?
Speaker 2: Contrast is always a
big stepping stone in every
aspect.
That's what gives us the
navigational standpoint of
creating exactly what we want.
So contrast is just a part of
the whole divine mechanism.
Speaker 1: I agree, I totally
agree.
And so when you experience a
contrast in a relationship,
being prepared for that takes a
couple of things.
A is you have to check your ego
.
What?
Speaker 3: does that?
Speaker 1: mean you can't.
Don't let your ego get in the
way of what the words that
you're hearing by saying being
coming defensive.
I think your ego is what fuels
the defensiveness.
Speaker 2: No, no, it's not your
ego, it's your judgment of
yourself that causes the
defensiveness to come in.
You're viewing yourself as
though you did something wrong,
or as though you did something
incorrectly or you didn't do it.
Good enough, it's a
self-judgment.
It's not about your ego
necessarily.
It's that what happens is when
you judge yourself and you scold
yourself or get onto yourself
for not doing it correctly or
doing it perfectly.
If you have a hard time looking
at yourself and really becoming
accountable for that and saying
, okay, this is about me judging
myself and I'm okay with
everything that happens, getting
to that place of knowing that
it's happening in exactly and
precisely the way that it's
supposed to happen.
If you're not okay looking at
yourself and being accountable,
then you'll take and you'll
project that off onto other
people.
Speaker 1: And twisted around.
Speaker 2: Other groups, other
things, and more times than not,
in our intimate relationships
with our partners, significant
others, husbands, wives,
whatever, we tend to do that
more easily because it's
impolite to do it to strangers
or unprofessional to do it to
non-intimate people, and so we
tend to deflect that off if
we're not willing to look at
that.
And so we tend to deflect that
off if we're not willing to look
at that.
And so we're a lot meaner or
harsher on the people that live
in our house on a regular basis
or that we're around on a
regular basis, because we can be
unprofessional or we can be
impolite if we're not willing to
look at ourselves.
Speaker 1: Agree, I agree.
Speaker 2: So then what happens
is that person says, oh well,
you're being judgmental and I'm
going to go in the defense, or
I'm a victim because you're
doing this to me, and you get
wrapped up in all of that, when
the reality is is that it's you
judging your own self is why you
feel that way, right, and not
ready to look at it or be
accountable for you're doing it
to yourself.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: The person's not
doing it.
I agree they were just the
triggering mechanism that comes
up to you, and it was a
beneficial opportunity.
You know it.
It feels a lot better and it's
a lot more easier to digest when
you can get to a place of
looking at it, of wow, this is
so exciting.
I am so glad that you brought
that up and I'm glad that it
bumped up against that spot,
because that means it's ready to
be looked at.
I'm at a place where I can
actually look at it and clean it
up and I won't ever have to
have that be a bump up against
spot again.
So look at me evolve and
getting excited about that from
that perspective, rather than a
oh my God, I have to work on
myself again.
Oh my Lord, is this ever going
to be done?
Am I ever going to be freaking
perfect?
That's a much different energy.
Speaker 1: You're always perfect
, but never done.
Speaker 2: Right, that's not
what the game is about.
You didn't come here to get it
done.
Speaker 1: Because I am perfect.
Speaker 2: Indeed, you are
perfectly perfect in every way.
Speaker 1: I am Not done, but
perfect.
Speaker 2: That's right, and
we'll never get it done.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: That's not the
purpose.
If that were the purpose, then
you would go to sleep and not
wake up.
You would go into your
spiritual aspect and you would
go back to your natural state of
being.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
It's a good topic.
It's a good topic.
I think it brings to the table
some room for thought for people
and allows them to be maybe
have a little bit more clear
direction in relationships when
it comes to the contrast,
because it will happen, because
you're two different individuals
.
It's not I mean it's it's naive
to go through life and think
that you're never going to have
any contrast.
Speaker 2: And be appreciative
of that other person and be
appreciative that they are
willing to be that character for
you.
And what do I mean by that?
What I mean is is that I'm very
appreciative that you agreed,
in our non-human form, to be
that person that will bring to
me, when I am not aware of
things that I could clean up and
change my reality.
Being that person that is
willing to bring that to my
awareness.
I'm very grateful for that,
because sometimes being that
person is not the easy journey.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: Especially if it's a
highly charged area that is
going to cause me to go into a
place of self-harsh
self-judgment and make me angry
or make me frustrated or make me
sad or one of those heavier
emotions.
It's an opportunity to clean it
up, but I am a human as well
and so sometimes there'll be
things that you bring up and I
am absolutely not willing to
look at them and I will be
frustrated, mad sad some sort of
emotion within it.
And I and I have to just take
that.
And so, as the re, as the re,
as the, what are you?
Speaker 1: The re, the re, re.
You said as as the re, as the
re.
Speaker 2: I wonder what that
word means in another language.
Speaker 1: Apparently.
Speaker 2: Set my alien side,
trying to communicate alien
language.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no.
Speaker 2: As the giver of that
information, then it is
sometimes a challenge to know
that this information that I'm
about to give to this person is
not going to be well received,
because they have some
deep-seated stuff around that
steel and they quite possibly
could lash out at me it's hard
to be in those shoes.
Speaker 1: Great, I agree, and
it's it's hard to be on both
sides of it.
Speaker 2: I am appreciative, as
the receiver of that
information, that you're willing
to put yourself in those shoes
so that I can have the
opportunity to see some of that
garbage that's ready to come up
and come out and give me the
opportunity to be aware of it.
I'm very grateful that you're
willing to do that no matter how
challenging it is.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I
appreciate that you are too.
Speaker 2: And so if you can be
in that place, little.
Speaker 1: Johnny shut the door.
Sorry, that's her.
He's opening the door, trying
to get your attention.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've it's God,
help me Mama.
Speaker 3: Look at me, I'm over
here.
Speaker 2: Yes, mama, I got a
question for you Well, being
quiet means that you don't talk.
I'm whispering.
I told you you could stay in
the studio if you could be quiet
.
Speaker 3: I have a question.
I have a question.
Speaker 2: What is your question
?
What?
Speaker 3: are we going to act
as?
What Are we going to be?
An actor, because you said that
we were going to act as, but
you didn't say what we were
going to act as.
What are we going to do?
Speaker 2: Mama, I'm excited,
right now you're acting as an
annoyance to me.
Speaker 3: I want to be an actor
.
I can be Brad Pitt, I can be
Batman.
Can I do that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but not right
now.
I want to talk to those people
out in the world about topics
that are helpful.
Speaker 1: Little Johnny, go
back over there and sit down and
quit acting that way.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, papa, I'm
sorry Mama, mama.
Yes, if we act, we as what?
Speaker 2: Act however you want,
I guess.
Speaker 3: You said act we as.
Speaker 2: Don't act like an ass
.
Speaker 3: You said a dirty word
.
You go get pow-pows From Papa.
Speaker 1: Little Johnny, now
quit Go sit down over there.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, papa, I'm
talking to Mama.
Little Johnny, you go over
there.
Little Johnny, little Johnny's
my name.
I want you's name.
Okay, little Johnny, let us
finish up.
Go sit down over there Little.
Johnny, little Johnny's my name
, I want you's name.
Speaker 1: Okay, Little Johnny,
let us finish up.
Go sit down over there.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, go sit down
.
Yes, sir, I'll be quiet.
Speaker 2: God, help me, dear
Lord give me wings, so I can fly
far, far away from it.
Speaker 1: Sorry guys, that's
little Johnny.
He's our godson and he's
visiting this week.
Speaker 2: He's not a real
person.
Y'all I'm real.
This is just my husband who
hasn't taken his medication.
Speaker 3: I'm real.
I'm real.
Did you get your coffee gum?
Speaker 2: Help.
Speaker 3: Why do you need help?
I help you, Mama Help.
Speaker 2: Well, you need help.
Speaker 3: I help you, ma'am
Help.
Speaker 2: I help you this is my
husband liking to play with the
buttons, yeah, I can play with
the buttons.
Speaker 1: I found a new one I
can play with.
It's kind of fun.
Yeah, it's kind of fun.
There you go.
I feel pretty complete about
today's podcast.
Thank you all for letting me
entertain you for a minute,
because that was kind of fun for
me, that's good, do you want to
do a little quick recap?
Speaker 2: yeah, we can do a
recap since we went in some
crazy directions we have, and we
had a little audio.
I'm not sure what the technical
thing is gonna do whenever we
have the editor edit this, so it
might be beneficial to kind of
recap.
Speaker 1: So recap, and we were
discussing being prepared for
contrast, because contrast is a
part of our being and, in a
relationship, understanding that
the contrast is not a targeted
attack.
Or maybe it's on you or you're
giving it to somebody else,
being open and receptive to it
without your emotions within it.
Targeted attack or maybe it's
on you or you're giving it to
somebody else, being open and
receptive to it without your
emotions within it is one of the
easiest ways to handle that, do
you agree?
Speaker 2: And that's what you
mean by being prepared.
Speaker 1: Yes, be prepared.
Have your go into anything that
rings your bell with the open
mind of okay.
So this has made me angry.
Why did it make me angry and
why am I taking it as that?
It's wrong.
Stop and open your mind.
Look at it.
Speaker 3: Look at yourself.
Look at yourself.
Speaker 1: And be thankful, then
remember that the reality is
happening for you, not to you,
and I think that I have to
remind myself of that all the
time.
Right, were you, not to you?
And I think that I have to
remind myself of that all the
time Right Remember who.
Speaker 2: I think the other key
sometimes we forget in a
relationship is, especially when
you've been together for a
while.
You've got to remember who this
person is.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: And they always have
your highest and best interest
at heart.
If and I paused, here's why I
paused there are some
relationships and don't get me
wrong there are some
relationships out there that are
truly not healthy, that are
truly difficult to, and it
brings up questions of should I
even be in the relationship?
Is there verbal abuse going on?
Is there physical abuse going
on?
Is there physical abuse going
on?
And you did create those
realities and may In a rabbit
hole situation, you created even
those, but we're not going to
go into that.
If you find yourself in those
kinds of relationships, you
still can only change you within
it and you got to make some
heavy decisions, but we'll talk
about that in a different
podcast, because those are a
little bit different to navigate
.
Whenever you're the victim of,
a perceived victim of physical
abuse or verbal abuse, you got
to go about those in a little
bit different direction.
But for the most part, your
partner has your best interest
at heart and truly does lovely
love you and and you have to
remind yourself of that this is
this he's not doing a an attack
towards me.
He's sharing this information
because somewhere in our
existence he said I will give
you information as it comes up
along the journey that will help
in your evolution and your
growth totally if it bothers you
.
Speaker 1: It's an agreement
between two people, completely
and understanding that you both
made this agreement not only in
this human flesh shoot but also
prior to coming here well, I was
going to go in one other okay,
go ahead unless the person
bringing about the information
is coming from a place of
judgment or a place of expecting
or you know.
Speaker 2: I guess what I'm
saying is if I come at you and I
say you're not doing that right
and it's stupid the way that
you're doing it, I don't like
the way you make me feel, right
yeah.
That's you not looking at your
own self as to why you feel the
way you feel, and you're coming
into the conversation already
delivering information that is
not from the best place.
Speaker 1: Right If they're
playing their emotions against
you and using the blame game, I
think is one of the best way to
identify that Correct If they're
saying you did this and it
caused me to feel this way.
Speaker 2: Because, even if
they're gaslighting you, because
they're coming from a place
that's not Gaslighting you,
because they're coming from a
place that's not completely
loving because of their things
that they're needing to clear,
if you're not, also don't have
something that can of neutrality
, because it's not triggering
anything for you.
Speaker 1: It's their journey.
Speaker 2: And so it's okay to
say okay, I'm sorry you feel
that way and you can either
participate in the conversation
or you can walk away and say not
my business, not my bubble.
When you get done throwing a
fit in the floor, then I'll have
a conversation with you.
But if it's, if you feel like
your knee jerk place is wanting
to jump in and start a full on
brawl with them, then you've got
stuff to look at as well.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
So, yeah, I agree with you that
if it pops in your reality,
then there is something for you
to look at and just know that,
even if it's an emotionally
charged conversation, that
there's something there for both
of you probably, or one of you,
it really is just being
prepared and open to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, on the
recap, I think we're just kind
of going over how to create a
beneficial and maybe healthier
way to communicate on topics
that maybe were perceived as
hard topics to talk about.
Speaker 1: Yes, and those topics
can be sometimes tough man,
even for us.
We have issues with them
sometimes.
Speaker 2: Do you need to
Kleenex, because they're all
over the floor.
Speaker 1: That was random.
Speaker 2: You said issue.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 2: I wanted to say bless
you.
Speaker 1: Oh, you know you're
right.
You're right, issue it's you.
Do we need little Johnny to
come back and pick him up?
No, he can come pick up the
tissues.
Speaker 2: No, so what's the
story about the Kleenexes all
over the floor?
Speaker 1: That's your cat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we have the
little Plumlee girl.
She's a movie star in the
making.
She likes to come into the
studio and hang around because
it's a nice, calm, quiet place
Not all the cats always get
along so she comes in here for
her quiet reprieve, away from
everybody.
Well, apparently she gets bored
, or she's created a new game
with the Kleenex and the Kleenex
box and I came in the other day
and the box is off of James's
table and it's on the floor and
all of the Kleenexes have been
plucked out, one or two at a
time, and they are literally
scattered about the entire
studio.
Some of them ripped up, some of
them chewed on, kind of like a
dog, and they're just scattered
about like it was a game.
Speaker 1: When I let her in
here the other day and I poked
my head and looked, she was
actually laying and rubbing on
them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they must have
some sort of smell or something
I don't know, I'm not sure why,
anyway, have some sort of smell
or something.
I don't know, I'm not sure why,
anyway, um, perhaps I'll take a
picture and have our um social
media, gal chloe, post it so
that you all can see, um yeah,
what it looks like, because it's
quite comical it is anyway,
we'll put a picture of little
Johnny up one day too.
Speaker 1: Anyway, hey, I feel
complete with the podcast, do
you?
Yeah, hey, thank you all for
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May you all have the most
awesome day ever.
Speaker 2: Love ya, love ya.
We'll see you next time.