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Speaker 2: Good morning.
Speaker 1: Good morning.
We are back listening to the
spiritual grind.
Everybody out there is.
They're driving.
Oh my God, Are you clearing
your throat?
Speaker 2: No, I was grinding.
Speaker 1: Oh, you were grinding
.
Is that what that circular hand
motion was?
Yeah, so good morning everybody
.
Welcome back to the show.
We're glad you're here and we
are talking today about a topic
that's kind of in our life right
now.
And it's about you know.
Okay, let me put a little back
story a little bit kind of.
You know, in the spiritual
world, everybody refers to
abundance as money and what we
have discovered throughout our
research is people label
abundance as money and what they
need to realize is abundance
can be anything.
You have to define it in a
different way, and we have
talked about abundance before in
one of the previous podcasts,
and what you just brought up
this morning was actually in my
meditation in the shower I
suppose is the best way to put
it when I was thinking about
money in, money out.
You know, you say that all the
time at work and thinking about
how, because everybody does this
, everybody does that they live,
they have created an
environment humanly to where you
have just enough money to have
a little extra and pay your
bills.
And why?
Why is that?
Because, if you stop back and
think about your historical life
of finance, almost everybody
started to like my first job was
hauling hay.
You know, my first actual job.
I was making $2.38 an hour and
I lived just fine on that.
Speaker 2: Wow, isn't that crazy
.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Yeah, because I think my first
job was $3 something $3.35,
probably Because it wasn't long
after I started my first job.
I was 14 years old.
I was a guy that was power
washing the lot for Hardee's.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I made $2 and 38
cents an hour and I worked 16
hours a week.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and of course, I
was still in high school and so
I was living with my parents,
but it gave me money and and
then, as I, you know, become an
adult.
We always seem to live to our
income.
You know, as adults in the
human world, the majority of us
which you know, they say the two
percenters, are those ones like
Elon Musk and all those guys,
you know they have billions and
billions of dollars and, except
for the other 98%, have a
tendency to really nowadays live
almost paycheck to paycheck.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And how do we get out
of that scenario as humans and
create a world of abundance to
where it don't feel
uncomfortable?
I mean, we work our tail ends
off.
We all work.
You know, the majority of
people work 40, 50 hours a week,
sometimes more, and but yet
they still are just happy with
paycheck to paycheck.
Used to be back in the day,
like in the fifties.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know
that they're happy with it.
I just think that they don't
know a better way.
Speaker 1: Right.
Well, I would agree with that.
Like back in the fifties it was
a single income house and those
companies all paid pensions.
You know they do.
Nowadays there's paid pensions.
You know they do.
Nowadays there's not pensions,
there's 401k.
That's got matching for like
three years.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: And you have to build
your own wealth?
Yeah, and yet that becomes very
difficult when you're not
living in an abundant place that
allows excess.
Speaker 2: Well, and it can be
very challenging when they don't
really teach that they don't
teach it in school.
They don't.
I mean you have to go seek out
the education of how to do that.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And if you don't know
anything about it because your
guardian didn't know anything
about it, right, then you really
have.
You don't know what you don't
know.
Speaker 1: Right, you know, when
we were in high school, they
didn't even talk about credit.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: There was nothing to
do with finance, there was
nothing to do with credit, there
was nothing to do with
sustaining a real adult life.
And then they throw you out in
the street and they expect you
to know what to do.
Speaker 2: Right yeah.
Speaker 1: And how to play the
game, and so we adapt and just
do the best we can, and nobody
teaches about the abundant of
finances, the abundance of
emotions, the abundance of life,
the abundance of being a human
and we talked about in one of
our previous podcasts about
containers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm going to
stop you right there and I'm
going to give a little nugget of
a little morsel, yummy morsel
of thought.
Okay, food for thought.
It's not that you're not
abundant, because we all are
abundant.
According to her, it's not that
we have to learn how to become
abundant.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It's that we have to
become aware of what are we
abundant in.
Speaker 1: That's right.
That's where exactly we're at
Are you abundant in lack?
Speaker 2: Are you abundant in
the fear of money?
Are you abundant in the status
quo?
What are you abundant in?
And that's the piece to look at
.
Speaker 1: I agree.
You know that's identifying
your abundant area and the
container by which it's in is
kind of a crucial part of
building abundance in all
aspects is understanding that.
First of all, how do you define
abundance?
How do you define abundance and
what are you expecting
abundance in and what do you
have abundance in?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll speak
to this going back, kind of how
you introed If you don't know,
what you don't know and you
don't know how to play, like the
investment game.
But then on the other side of
that you're told don't take your
excess money and just sit it in
your account, make it work for
you.
but you don't know how to do
that, then you're not going to
allow yourself to have excess
money because you don't know
what to do with it and you don't
know how to play that game and
it's kind of an underlying
program that's taught that
excess is not okay if it's just
sitting there not doing anything
.
Speaker 1: Agreed, I was
actually taught that.
Speaker 2: And it is okay.
But that's a belief and you
want to look at that Because it
will create a little bit of a
wonky money reality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think
part of that is to remove the
human emotions behind it and the
frustration that people get you
know, like, for example, I mean
, that's true.
Speaker 2: But, the emotions are
not the cause of it.
The emotions are the indicator
of what's going on.
Speaker 1: I agree, I totally
agree.
But what I'm saying is get to a
neutral part of in it, into
where you can actually
open-mindedly look at what's
going on.
That is easier for you to say
than it is to do it.
Speaker 2: Especially if you're
one of those who's in a
situation where I'll take kind
of a worst-case scenario You're
a single parent of a couple of
kids, you're working all your
full-time hours and then some
just to make ends meet and
you're barely bringing home
enough money to buy bread,
peanut butter and water, then
it's hard to remove and you're
listening to this podcast on a
friend's device.
It's hard to remove the
emotions of that.
You've got to start a little.
You can't start there from
there.
Speaker 1: No, I totally am with
you.
I was just going to get to it
and that's one of those easier
said than done.
Speaker 2: You know, I can hear.
I can hear the chatter of the
collective.
Oh yeah, that's easy for you to
say.
You sit around and talk about
how you have a motor home and
you've got a.
Jeep and you probably make a
shit ton of money and dah, dah,
dah dah.
So that's easier for you to say
, sitting there on the
microphone.
But what about me who lives in
a one-bedroom shanty and I am
barely making minimum wage?
Speaker 1: My car is 30 years
old.
Speaker 2: I'm working 60 hours
a week and exhausted and beat
down, and every extra minute
that I have I'm trying to do the
best I can to raise these two
kids by myself.
And you want me to be
non-emotional in that?
Well, bleep off, buddy.
Speaker 1: No, I totally agree
with you, and you know when we
were raised and how we react to
humans in the world, and how
most humans do this is they have
a tendency to create unbalance
and think I work more, I get
paid more.
And that's what I did.
I mean, I worked a ton of hours
every single week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, same here.
Speaker 1: And I had no balance.
I had no work-life balance.
I mean, I was literally
scheduling my kid stuff around
my work Instead of scheduling my
work around my kid stuff.
I was doing it in the opposite
direction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for me I
was actually sabotaging myself
yeah like I would work six days
a week at night, 12 hour shifts
and then some, so that I could
what I perceived was hide the
extra hours and the work hours
from my kids, so they wouldn't
necessarily think they were
missing me.
Yeah, because then that would
allow me to come home in the
morning, get them ready for
school, take them to school,
participate in their life, go to
you know, valentine's day party
and uh, then pick them up, go
to soccer practice, feed them
supper, get them ready for bed
or put to bed.
Then go to soccer practice,
feed them supper, get them ready
for bed or put to bed.
Speaker 1: Then go to work again
and not sleep.
Speaker 2: Right, totally agree.
So in that whole day I did not
go to bed, and then I'm going to
go do another night shift, and
so I was a self-sabotaging
worker.
Yeah, so that could be what I
wanted, or thought that I needed
to be to my kids.
I sacrificed myself.
Speaker 1: How many times did
you sit in the living room floor
and put your hands on your head
and say I can't do this anymore
?
Speaker 2: I didn't, I didn't
have time to let myself go there
.
Yeah, and that's where I'm
going Instead of sitting in the
living room floor doing that.
If I sat down for a second it
was catching catnaps.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I would literally
like I would go to pick them up
from school and if I got there
early and the bell hadn't rang
and I had 10 minutes, I was
kicking the seat back trying to
get a 10 minute nap here there,
and I didn't really even have
time to go until the horn honks
behind you because you're in the
pickup line and you haven't
moved because you're asleep I
would use a park so they could
take a nap.
Speaker 1: You know, and that's
where we get, as humans, we get
hung up in is we're chasing the
dollar instead of allowing the
dollar to chase us, and we will
sacrifice everything for the
dollar.
And at what point does a human
race stop and say, you know what
?
I'm not going to fall for this
bait and switch anymore Bait and
switch Because, like, for
example, you know and here's a
part of this in abundance and
money that people seem to miss
out on for me and I was just
having this conversation
yesterday, actually, with my
intern and he was saying that
everybody, everybody in college,
is telling us to invest in, bit
in, in Bitcoin and in
cryptocurrency, and that's the
future of investing.
And yada, yada, yada, he said,
but nobody's telling us how to
do it and what it means, what
drives it, what makes it go up,
and so it's the misunderstanding
.
And that's why he asked me
about it, cause he knows I play
around in crypto a little bit
and he was like what do you
think of it?
And I'm like I don't even know
what really drives it.
I've heard, I know what I've
heard, I know what I've been,
you know, I've watched videos
about it and people tell me this
and that.
But when you see those actions
happen and it doesn't drive it,
I don't know.
But you know, the those two
percenters gamble on the other
98 percent just trying to follow
their leads.
And that's where we get caught
up in that frustration and that
and identifying we're trying to
do better for ourselves, we're
working more hours, we're trying
to invest, we're trying to do
this and that, whatever that is,
and it creates an emotional
frustration and you know we're
making just enough money to pay
our bills and we don't know
where to go and so.
But here's the here's the
positive part behind it is you
have created a container of
abundance that is big enough to
pay your bills, and so that
means you have the creative
powers to create abundance.
But how do you take it to the
next level?
Cue, dr Jenny.
Thank you, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what,
guys?
Again, it's stopping to look at
your beliefs, your patterns,
your definitions, your programs.
Each one of us goes through our
reality from our perspective,
from our point of view, and the
universe will put together the
reality that you're asking for,
and it already exists.
It's just becoming aligned with
that through redefining things,
realizing what beliefs you have
that are having you look at
things from a different
perspective, which in turn
causes you to act and react to
different situations and events,
on a conscious or even a
subconscious level, that create
the reality you have, and that
is in any topic.
But because we're on the money
topic, you've got to first look
at the whole construct of what
do I?
believe about that.
What do I believe?
Not what was fed to me by my
parents, not what was fed to me
by my grandparents or the person
who raised me and gave me my
foundational belief system, not
what is being fed to me by the
society or the collective.
What do I want that to look
like?
What do I want to believe in?
Because that is how you create
a reality and then perpetuate
that into existence for yourself
as being the actual reality
that you live.
And you know the first step is
awareness yeah, really you've
got to be aware you can't walk
through life, on any life topic,
being completely oblivious and
unconscious to what you're doing
, because then you're just a
robot going through the motions
of whatever it is Right, that's
right and living life on kind of
this autopilot.
You got to be able to stop and
say, wait a minute until you're
ready to stop and say all right,
dad, government, I'm ready for
this to change and I'm willing
to put in the action and the
steps to really do something
about it.
And you decide, right then and
there, that you're going to take
your control back from your
belief systems not back from the
characters that are playing
parts in your play, but take
your power back from your belief
systems by really
deconstructing them and looking
at them and deciding okay, is
this a belief I want?
Is this a belief I don't want?
Is it something I can utilize,
if I restructure it and whatever
that process looks like, to go
through those?
And I'm a fond believer of
taking notes and journaling,
especially in your newness of
you know, if you're new to the
concept, you got to write it
down because you can't remember
everything you want.
You're not practiced enough to
be able to do it on the fly in
your mind.
Yet I mean, I've been doing it
for 30 years and there's
sometimes there's deep seated
things that I can't even do
without writing them down.
You know some of the minor
things I can, uh, because for me
, I've gotten to a place that,
if it's not very deeply buried,
I can work with it right then,
and right then it is dissolved,
it's recalibrated, it's
redefined, restructured, and
then reality will change
literally right there.
For me, I'll give you an example
and this is a rabbit hole
example, but it just happened.
The other day we were headed to
Daytona for the weekend.
The navigator actually said we
still had like 58 miles and an
hour and something, and I'm like
you know what this is
ridiculous.
I do not have to carry around a
belief that it takes this long
to get there.
Time and space are a construct
that I create and I'm done with
that.
Like I don't have to live
within the time space continuum
if I don't want to, I can create
a wormhole that gives me from
point a to point b and I truly
and I truly believe that in
every ounce of my being.
At that very moment and just
like that, it went from 58 miles
left to 28 miles.
It went from an hour and
something minutes to I don't
know 13 minutes and next thing,
I know we're pulling into the
place and done yeah.
Speaker 1: Either that or you
took a really good nap while you
were driving.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it
happened that way for you in
your reality or whatever, but
that's how it went.
Speaker 1: I did it was kind of
crazy because we were driving
down the road and it said 48, 46
minutes, I think, left and then
suddenly it dropped to 22.
Yeah, Something like that.
It was kind of cool.
But here's the thing of this
that I want to talk about with
abundance is, when you're
creating abundance and you're
trying to create excess
abundance, you have to be clear
on one topic.
Speaker 2: I believe that will
help you step by step work
through the process, and that is
defining needs and wants
differently.
Speaker 1: Yes, and it's a big
one.
It's a big one because your
higher self and your, your God,
your spiritual advisor whoever
that is, does not matter it's
going to provide for you what
you need.
Speaker 2: Always.
Speaker 1: Always.
You're always going to have
what you need, unless you
humanly choose to not accept it.
Now, here's the point to that
is, what is a need?
Because we've always had our
needs met.
We've worked through life,
we've we've had a roof over our
head.
Granted, we may not always get
exactly what we expected, and
that is because there is like,
for example, you may have a roof
over your head and you have
something to eat, you have gas
in your car to get back and
forth to work, but your food is
like peanut butter and jelly
sandwiches and a loaf of bread,
and that's not necessarily what
you feel like, that you really
want.
And that's because you have not
identified or clarified the
difference between wants and
needs.
And when you can clarify that
within your mindset, it makes
your step by step to creating
excess abundance even easier.
Speaker 2: And like for me, yeah
, whenever you're sitting there
saying I am okay if I could just
get my bare essentials met.
Right, that's a belief, right.
And that's exactly what you're
going to create.
Speaker 1: And here's a very
good story, here's a very good
example of that is we identified
something to change our
environment right now and we
turned that into a need and, out
of our own beliefs, we went
down and bought a motor home in
less than three hours.
Right Because we turned it into
a need Bam Done here, sign these
papers, you're out Right.
And I don't want you all to
think for one minute we have
like an 850 credit score because
that's not what, that's not at
all what we have.
We, we had the ability because
we did.
We took this from a want to a
need in our beliefs and it
became very, very easy.
Speaker 2: Actually it became
stupid easy.
It was it was quite a beautiful
experience.
Speaker 1: Like within four
hours we were signing papers.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And like three hours
we had a deal done.
Four hours later we were
signing the paper and we came
back and picked it up two days
later or three days later after
they got it all ready to go.
It was probably the most easy
experience at that level that
I'd ever experienced, and it was
I mean you're talking in excess
of a $100,000 purchase and we
did it in three hours and that
was with no money down.
Speaker 2: All of our
experiences are easy once we get
aligned with them, though.
Speaker 1: We paid no money out
of pocket, right and that was
with no money down.
Our experiences are easy once
we get aligned with them, though
we paid no money out of pocket.
Speaker 2: Right, that's crazy.
Think about that, I don't.
Speaker 1: It's not crazy, it's
fun.
I don't have to.
Speaker 2: That's how it works.
That's how it works, whenever
you do the work to restructure
and commit to wanting things to
actually be different.
Lose the fear of the unknown,
lose the monkey mind talk of I
don't deserve it, I can't have
it.
You got to go through and
restructure all that nonsense.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with
you, and I'm going to go away
from the spiritual world for a
minute and I'm going to talk
about something that is very
important and crucial into
understanding all of this is.
Your subconscious mind creates
habits within you and it will.
When you create something from
a want to a need, your
subconscious mind will, without
you thinking, humanly, react in
ways to create what you want.
For example, if you have a need
that you need to have $30,000
in your savings account by the
end of the year.
If you create that and put it
into a need and make it a high
priority, not only will spirit
help guide you through it, but
your subconscious mind will too,
because your subconscious mind
is going to do what it takes and
put you in situations to create
that abundance of what you need
.
Now the spiritual part of that
is when you have that need
identified.
Your subconscious mind is going
to help dictate that through
your human experience.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: You got quiet on me.
Speaker 2: I'm just listening.
Speaker 1: And because your
subconscious mind is a creature
of habit and it creates these
because it's best way to
describe it is it's lazy.
Once it has something set up,
it's going to go to the path of
least resistance and it's going
to continue to repeat that
process subconsciously until you
purposely change it.
And now the spiritual world
side of that is, you will create
abundance when you can change
that from a want to need, and
then you're going to have your
spiritual backing and your
subconscious mind all working in
the same direction, and that's
where I wanted to go, for just a
minute, anyway.
And so how do we create the
excess of the excess, excess?
How do you say that word Excess
, excess, excess.
Speaker 2: Excess Meaning an
overabundance.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Excess.
Speaker 1: Excess.
Speaker 2: Access with an.
Speaker 1: A yeah, so you can
get into somewhere.
Speaker 2: I know what that
means I was just playing,
because I said it wrong Excess
with an E Excessive abundance.
Oh, I thought so it was a
rhetorical question that you
didn't want to answer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just
playing because I said it wrong.
Speaker 2: Oh, I got you.
Speaker 1: I didn't need Dr J.
I was trying to make it funny
and nobody laughed.
Speaker 2: I am not a doctor of
vocabulary or grammar.
Speaker 1: So, dr Ginny, how do
we Ask my editor, now that we've
changed our wants to our needs,
what happens next in this
virtual world?
What do we do now?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I
think we have to back up a
minute, because how do you
change it from a want to a need
and, uh, circumvent the monkey
mind?
Oh, that's a good one because
monkey mind will come in if
you're not careful and say, okay
, what do you need thirty
thousand dollars for?
Why do you need that?
Speaker 1: right, you don't need
that.
Speaker 2: You have food to eat,
you breathe.
You've got a job that pays your
bills.
You don't need that.
You have food to eat, you
breathe.
You've got a job that pays your
bills.
You don't really need to take
that vacation.
That doesn't save your life, it
doesn't help you to.
Speaker 1: That's not a
life-saving thing.
Speaker 2: That's the first
thing that has to happen is we
have to come away from the
definition of need being that
which sustains our physical life
.
Speaker 1: Greed.
Speaker 2: Because that's what
jams people up.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: And then they bring
in the scientific backing to the
monkey mind of okay, I
literally could survive on a
peanut butter sandwich, half a
sandwich once a day, and so that
means I need a loaf of bread
and a thing of peanut butter for
the week.
Don't forget the milk.
I could drink water.
I don't need to even spend the
money on milk.
Speaker 1: No, I gotta have milk
.
I have to have milk.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it
all depends on what you're
defining as need, and most of us
, our definition stems from the
caveman mentality of how they
lived.
What is the need?
To sustain life?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And we've been taught
even in the medical world.
In the medical books we get
taught that the physical body
will shut down the less
important parts of the body and
give all the nutrients, all the
blood and everything to the
organs that are life-sustaining
Right, yep or flight situation
or a very ill situation.
The medical books teach us that
all the nutrients and the
oxygen and all that will be
shunted to the things like the
brain, the heart, the major
organs.
Speaker 1: Things that keep you
alive Not necessarily the
fingers and the toes.
And all that because,
technically speaking, you can
live life as a Bob yeah.
Speaker 2: And not need.
Speaker 1: A need not
necessarily have Bad joke.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm mad.
Oh, that's even worse.
Speaker 2: Okay, you can live
life technically without your
arms and legs.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: And so if you have a
structure that's formatted
around that deep underlying
belief of what is a need, it's
things that are life-saving
components, then you're going to
live a very Mundane.
Minuscule.
Speaker 1: Minuscule.
Yeah, components.
Speaker 2: Then you're going to
live a very mundane minuscule
life, and you're not going to
allow yourself to put other
things in the need column
because they're too extravagant,
and so you've got to redefine
that.
You have to stop and redefine
what need is.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because if having
that $30,000 in the bank allows
you to, for example, experience
more of what your joy and
excitement is, which puts you in
alignment with that vibrational
frequency which is, in fact,
your natural state of being,
then that's a need.
Yeah, I agree, because that
brings about mental, energetic,
physical, overall unity and
well-being Right.
And so you've got to stop and I
think, really look at what your
definition is on need and want,
is it?
archaic.
Does it stem back from caveman
mentality?
Because I'm telling you now if
you have a definition in place
on the need?
And it came from your parents
and they got theirs from their
grandparents.
Listen, these grandparents
lived through the depression.
They know the minimal that it
takes to sustain life.
They could make a dime last
them an entire month and live
off of that doughy thing that
was made out of bread and water.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, that had no
flavor.
Speaker 2: They became
accustomed to that and had water
to drink, sometimes nothing to
drink if the water was
contaminated or they would boil
it Like they know that.
And so if you're working on a
definition that they gave you,
you're only going to allow bare
essentials yeah, into your
reality.
Perfect.
So you've got to start there
you are totally right.
Speaker 1: Like I, had the same
kind of belief that popped up
because growing up there was one
thanksgiving that my family, we
were very poor and broke at the
time and our, our Thanksgiving
dinner was literally, literally.
Speaker 2: What was that high
pitch?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know
what that was, I guess, but our
Thanksgiving dinner was
literally peanut butter and
jelly sandwiches.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And my mother
preached to me about that that
it was hey, at least we had that
.
Preach to me about that that it
was hey, at least we had that.
And as I grew up, I my mom it
was a family tradition that
every thanksgiving we had a
peanut butter and jelly sandwich
after that fuck that and and um
.
And then, as I became an adult,
I thought to myself why would I
worship that?
yeah, no I'm not thankful that
only only thing I had was a
peanut butter and jelly sandwich
.
I'm not thankful for that.
As a matter of fact, it's
pretty embarrassing, and so I
went through.
I have been through the rest of
my life trying to figure out
how to build excess abundance.
I have been very successful out
of the times and I've sucked at
it at others.
I have been very successful out
of the times and I've sucked at
it at others, and but the the
main part of that is
understanding that these beliefs
that we carry on identifying
the difference between wants and
needs, will change your, your,
your complete perception of your
reality right now.
Speaker 2: Of course yeah.
Speaker 1: And when you like to
use a $30,000 example again,
when you make it $30,000 in your
savings account by this date as
somewhere that you have to be
because that's the only way you
can feel comfortable in life, it
will become a need and you will
create that abundance.
Speaker 2: You will create it
and that's how you do it is you
change your wants?
Speaker 1: and your needs and
you create a new standard.
Yeah, a new set point.
A new set point zero balance,
you know, a bigger, a bigger
container yeah, I totally agree,
and as you, because you've done
it your whole life.
If you stop and think everybody
does it, they'll start with a
little high school job and you
know, they go through college
and all that stuff and they're,
they're, they're raising the bar
constantly, yeah, and they just
don't realize that when they
get to that point, to where they
can't seem to create more, they
don't know how to go from there
.
And that's because their needs
are met and they're okay with
their wants not being met right
and when you can clarify that in
your own reality and change the
wants and the needs.
You know.
Try it with little things at
first.
If you need to, you know, try
it with.
I want $2,000 in my savings
account by the end of the year
and see the process, feel the
process, because when you create
a new belief and then attach an
emotion to it, that becomes
locked into reality for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the
PhD place on this school of
thought, when you get to a place
where there is no difference
between want and need, yeah,
yeah, I want it, just because I
want the experience of having it
.
Speaker 1: And it's okay for me
to have it.
Speaker 2: And I deserve it and
I'm worthy of it and I can have
what I want.
When you get to that place of
allowing yourself to have it
just because you want to have
the experience of it.
You want to experience the
contrast.
And remember contrast is not
always negative, the good
contrast and the bad contrast.
Contrast is just seeing the
different sides of something.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And so when you can
get to a place where want and
need really are not any
different than each other and
you allow yourself to have the
things that you want, just
because you want to have the
experience of having them, just
because you want to have the
experience of having them, so
that you can decide from there
where you go with having this
thing, I experienced that I like
this part of it, but I don't
necessarily like this part of it
.
So let me go to the drawing
board, create a reality where
I've got this part of it, but
I'm going to change this part,
part of it.
But I'm going to change this
part when you get to a place
where I am going to line up with
the reality of having it,
simply because I want to
experience what it's like to
have it for my own growth and
evolution, not because I need it
to pay a bill or because I need
it to have happiness, or I need
it for a good vacation or so
that my kids can have something.
Just simply because you want it
and you're allowing yourself to
have it for the experience that
allows growth and evolution.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
That's the ultimate place to get
to and and here for some of you
out there that maybe struggle
with understanding this, you
know we have I'm I'm a salesman,
I'm in sales and I deal with
seniors all the time that are
trying to hold everything they
have saved, all their abundance,
to pass on to their kids and to
where they'll actually hinder
their own life.
And my explanation for that is
when is to get them to
understand that what they want
is truly what they need, and and
transferring, transferring that
thought process for them within
the realm of their own
abundance is what I do every day
.
That just came to me a minute
ago.
Speaker 2: Well, and the rabbit
hole concept of that is, if you
didn't need it, you would never
be given the thought or the
desire to want it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm following
you be given the thought or the
desire to want it.
Okay, I agree, I'm following
you.
Speaker 2: Your higher self
guides you through your path
always.
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2: And if you're given
the desire or the passion or the
thought of hmm, I want that,
then it's because you need it it
, yeah, because it is going to
help you grow and evolve.
Yes, it's either giving you the
opportunity to experience
something, so that a belief can
come up and you can look at it,
dissolve it, or it's giving you
the opportunity to experience it
, to discern for yourself
whether you'd like it and you
want more of it, or you don't
necessarily care for it and you
want less of it.
So, getting to a place where
you understand that your desire
for wanting something is part of
the bigger component of the
whole mechanism Right, it's a
driving force.
If you weren't supposed to have
it and you weren't supposed to
experience it, then higher self
would never give you the desire
to want it Right.
Speaker 1: You know I watch the
YouTube, so therefore, it must
be a need.
Correct.
You know, I watched a YouTube
video this morning a short of
Danica Patrick being she's that
female race car driver.
Yeah, a YouTube video this
morning, a short of Danica
Patrick being she's that female
race car driver of her being
interviewed, and the topic of
this was that she had just
bought a Lamborghini.
And he asked her why did you
buy the Lamborghini?
And she said I'd always wanted
one all my life and I worked
hard to get it and it was a
driving force behind me becoming
who I am.
Because I wanted a Lamborghini
and she wouldn't buy one.
And 12 days later she traded it
in.
She got rid of it and he said
why?
He asked her well, you worked
all your life to have that.
And she said I realized that's
not really what I wanted,
because you know what?
It didn't have a cup holder.
Speaker 2: And it can be
literally that simple.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
Speaker 2: But a lot of people
will look at that situation and
say, well, what's the point?
How wasteful.
Why would you do that?
Why would you buy a car, keep
it for 12 days and then return
it?
Speaker 1: Right, get rid of it.
Well, and here's what she said.
Speaker 2: Because we also have
an entangled premise that when
we buy something, we have to
attach to it and keep it forever
.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Keep that 30-year
note house until you pay it off,
because that's a definition of
success.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Keep that car forever
and pay it off so you don't
have debt.
Speaker 1: I remember the 8 is
Enough show, when they finally
got their deed to their house.
It paid off and there was a big
family celebration and then
they turned around and had to
take a loan out against it.
That show popped in my head.
But anyway, danica, in this
interview, when the guy said,
well, you worked all your life
for that Lamborghini and she
said, yeah, I realized it really
, really wasn't what I wanted,
right.
And she said, all my life I
needed one.
That was my driving force.
I needed to have that.
Then, when I got it, I was okay
with you.
Know what I got?
It it's done.
And now I want Right.
And she went and bought that.
Right and and she and he said,
wow, it must be nice to have
that kind of money.
And he said, well, the
Lamborghini is what made me have
that kind of money, and so
cause I turned my Lamborghini
into that's something I need in
my life.
So this was on the short.
This morning it was a little
three minutes short, and that
does you know.
Speaker 2: It drives home what I
just said Getting to a place
where want and need don't hold
two separate spaces Right, yep,
Yep.
Understanding that the way the
mechanism works is, you would
not be given the desire to want
something unless it was needed
to help you experience and
evolve.
Speaker 1: Yes, totally with you
on the same page.
Speaker 2: That's how that
mechanism actually works.
Speaker 1: That's how you build
excessive abundance Right.
You have to be able to, in your
own mind, fathom the place
where you take your wants and
you turn them into needs, and
that becomes the driving force
behind your excessive abundance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, until you can
get to a place where the want is
okay.
Yes, is okay as a child, and
coming up just because you want
it doesn't mean you need it.
How many times did you?
Speaker 1: hear that yeah right.
I remember so many times.
That many times did you hear
that yeah right.
I remember so many times that I
heard that in my life yeah,
exactly, but I want it.
Speaker 2: Well, just because
you want it doesn't mean that
you need it, and so I can't
afford it, right?
Speaker 1: now.
My dad used to say put your
wants in one hand and shit in
the other one.
See what one fills up first.
Speaker 2: Actually that's yes,
100%, or spitting the other.
You know, my grandma would try
to clean it up, but yeah, I
can't tell you how many times I
was told that as well, and so we
were taught to segregate those
two things out.
Speaker 1: Everybody's taught
that A need is defined as what
do I need to sustain my liv?
Speaker 2: an experiential life.
You need any want that comes
across because it serves a
purpose just like in the example
you gave.
That want is your higher self
knows what will get you from
point A to point B, and if
you're supposed to go down this
path, then higher self is going
to give you this unwavering
desire to want something to get
you to be driven in that
direction, whatever that is, and
it's perfectly okay.
So if you can do that for
yourself and put the wants in
the same category of I need
everything I want because it is
in some form or fashion driving
me to the next evolutional point
in my life for growth and
expansion, that's the key place
to get to right, I agree totally
with you.
I like it and so whatever baby
steps you have to do to get
there is what you have to put in
place, and so you have to
figure out what that is.
How do I get there?
Baby steps, am I at a place
where I can take a leap right?
Am I at a place where I gotta
take baby steps?
And if you are that single
parent trying to raise two kids
and you barely make enough to do
the bills, you gotta stop and
look at.
Okay, I definitely have
definitions in place of if I
could just, dear lord, if I
could just meet our needs this
month, then we we'll be okay.
Speaker 1: And let me feed my
kids.
Speaker 2: And the stress will
be off of me, and so that's
exactly what you're going to get
.
Yep, then you get a day's
moment to breathe, and then the
first comes and you're sitting
down and you're saying the same
prayer Please let me get through
this month in the same form or
fashion.
And next thing you know, that's
just what life becomes.
Speaker 1: It becomes a habit.
Speaker 2: And you're not
necessarily growing or evolving,
you're just existing.
And that is not a comfortable
place.
Speaker 1: It's okay to just
exist.
Speaker 2: So stop, and ask
yourself these questions what
would I have to believe to be
true in order to experience life
like this?
And fill in the blank, and it
could be something small enough
like what would I have to
believe to be true to experience
life where I have an extra $500
a month Start small.
$200 a month Start small $200 a
month, an extra $50 a month so
that I can have these new shoes.
Find your motivating factor and
take baby steps.
If you're not in a place where
you can make that big jump just
play with it a little bit and
ask those questions and then
wait for the answers.
Speaker 1: What's it going to
hurt?
Try it.
Right Play with it it's not
right, it's not gonna hurt
anything I bet it'll change your
life yeah, whatever you've got
to do to play the game yeah,
because we're here for
experiences and that's just the
truth of it, and those
experiences need abundance, they
need finances, those even silly
.
Speaker 2: The more fun and the
more silly you make it.
That is a frequency that is
light-hearted even if you have
to go literally buy monopoly
money and pretend like you pay
yourself money with the pink
money preferably.
It's the best color and then you
go and you have a catalog where
you go through and you spend
your monopoly money, open the
catalog and money is no object
now because you have this
monopoly money, shit, tons of it
, and in your mind's eye you
pick that thing on that page,
you put the money in that page
and you've bought it virtually
yeah and then you daydream about
what it would look like, what
it feels like, what it smells
like to have it on, drive it,
whatever.
and if you can actually take it
one step further and go put
yourself in that situation like
if it's a car and you've paid
your Monopoly money for it, or
make yourself like on the secret
.
She actually has tools that you
can download and print, and one
of those is a check from the
universe.
You can make yourself out a
check from the universe.
You take that money and go buy
the car in your mind and then go
down and test drive the car
write the check for over though
or just write a check just
because, and give it a new
amount go down and actually sit
in the car, or even test drive
the car so that you can see what
it feels like to sit in the
energy of it feel the energy.
Put your hands around the
steering wheel to even bring it
more about into your reality.
Anybody can go.
Look at one on the floor.
You don't have to have any
credentials.
You don't have to show your
bank statement or your credit
number to go.
Look at the card.
Touch it, feel it.
Do those things that will bring
it more and more into your
reality and make it more
visceral.
If it's actual money that you
want, write yourself a check
from the universe.
Play that game.
Pay yourself with Monopoly
money, whatever you can do to
get yourself closer and closer
to experiencing that.
If you can't do a visualization
and you actually have to have
something on hand.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 2: Go to the Halloween
store, buy you a package of that
Halloween money.
That's like $100,000 bills and
carry it around in your wallet
like I do.
Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 1: Well, I feel pretty
good, so what do?
Speaker 2: you think yeah, you
feel complete.
I think so.
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