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SPEAKER_00: Good morning,
everybody.
Welcome back to the spiritual
grind.
Good morning.
There's always that awkward
silence before she says good
morning.
It's kind of odd.
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes.
I am weird and it's okay.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02: And that, ladies and
gentlemen, is a t-shirt.
SPEAKER_00: I think it is a
t-shirt.
SPEAKER_02: Our merch store.
SPEAKER_00: Merch store, yeah.
The salty tarot.
Absolutely.
Or thesalty tarot.myshopify.com.
Or you can go to thesalty
tarot.net and click on the
store.
It'll take you right to it.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
Getting that inventory built up.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's gonna be
fun.
SPEAKER_02: Those clever little
t-shirts and puns.
They're going in the store.
SPEAKER_00: And our app is, as
we speak, uploading to the app
store.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, can we get
applause?
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we should get
an applause for that.
SPEAKER_02: Applause worthy man.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the self
determined app will be out soon.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we uh started
the download to the iOS
platform, right?
SPEAKER_00: Yesterday.
SPEAKER_02: Yesterday, and we
were 19 hours in counting.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it uh I
haven't got any notifications
today, so I don't know where it
is.
I haven't got nothing.
But the projected date to
release for the public is the
27th, I believe, is what Keen
said.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
Because you said they have wait
so we download it to the iOS
platform.
We get to use it.
SPEAKER_00: The Apple store, not
iOS platform.
It's the it's already on the iOS
platform.
I gotcha.
It just has to go from the iOS
platform and AWS to the app
store for approval.
SPEAKER_02: I see.
And then they review it and make
sure it meets all the criteria.
SPEAKER_00: It meets all their
guidelines.
Yeah.
Privacy, the security, all that
stuff.
SPEAKER_02: But in the meantime,
we get a beta version of it to
check for you know different.
SPEAKER_00: And I think we can
allow 20 people, I think is what
he said.
10 or 20, I don't remember.
We can give access to like 20
people to play with it.
SPEAKER_02: For the beta.
SPEAKER_00: So if you want to be
a part of the beta, go to
thesalty tarot.net and subscribe
because I'm gonna use a
randomizer and pick random
people for that.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And so if you want
to be a part of it, let me know.
SPEAKER_02: For sure.
It's really exciting.
It's such a fun app, too.
SPEAKER_00: It is, yeah.
We got I I wish we'd have
videoed it.
We took it to the bank.
SPEAKER_02: I know.
SPEAKER_00: And uh we had three
people that were just laughing
and having a good time with it.
Yeah, it was great.
SPEAKER_02: It was great stuff.
SPEAKER_00: Wish I'd have
videoed that.
I could have made put that on
Instagram.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Maybe we'll go back
there and recreate.
SPEAKER_02: We yeah, we uh I
feel like we miss a lot of video
opportunities because we have
not quite acclimated to the
video part of life.
SPEAKER_00: I really wish that
we'd have videoed this whole
process.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
I agree.
SPEAKER_00: Because it's been I
mean, what does that look like?
SPEAKER_02: Do we plant GoPros
on our head and just walk around
video all the time or what?
SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't
really know.
I don't know either.
You know, uh apparently we
weren't supposed to do it or we
would have been urged to do it.
Absolutely, that's exactly
correct.
SPEAKER_02: But that is where
But I am feeling the nudge, the
gentle nudge of um figuring out
some sort of video apparatus.
Yeah, and I don't know, like I
said, I don't know if that looks
like we have like a video on our
head and a video on our lapel.
Or maybe I walk around with my
meta sunglasses on all the time.
I wear my sunglasses at night.
Oh my.
So I can, so I can.
What are you trying to say?
Keep my day job.
SPEAKER_00: Wow, that was
different.
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, um the back
in the day, that was a popular
song.
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I agree.
SPEAKER_02: Back in our time.
SPEAKER_00: Yes, and I remember
wearing my sunglasses at night
because of that song.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_00: I do.
SPEAKER_02: We all look like a
bunch of idiots wearing our
sunglasses at night with our
jams on.
SPEAKER_00: It just made it
worse.
The Top Gun movie made it worse
with Tom Cruise wearing his
aviator glasses all the time.
So everybody started wearing
aviator glasses at night.
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
SPEAKER_00: And it was it was
kind of a weird place.
SPEAKER_02: With our big radios
on our shoulders and shit.
SPEAKER_00: And if you all look
close to our age, you you
remember these days.
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00: You know, because we
would take our parachute pants
and our aviator glasses and we'd
go out and break dance on the on
the sidewalk with a piece of
cardboard.
SPEAKER_02: I feel like
everybody knew how to do the
worm.
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02: And do the the back
spin thing, whatever that was
freaking.
SPEAKER_00: There's actually a
yearbook picture of me in one of
my yearbooks of me doing the
worm in the gym.
SPEAKER_02: And your
multicolored parachute pants.
SPEAKER_00: No, it was uh uh
wrestler jeans from Walmart.
I didn't have parachute pants.
SPEAKER_02: I did.
SPEAKER_00: I did have parachute
pants, but after I bought them
later on in life.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And they were
already out of the cool stage
when I bought them.
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, yeah.
But and you know what's so funny
is we will talk about some of
those things amongst our uh the
younger individuals that we come
across and they're like, ooh, I
don't even know who that is.
I don't know what those are.
And then you're like, wow.
Yeah.
That's one of those Twizzler
moments where you're like, yeah,
there's some of the things that
I've done.
SPEAKER_00: We've been watching
that buzzer channel, and there
was a 14-inch color TV on that
because that this on uh sale of
the century show from the and
from the 80s, and that TV
14-inch color TV was eight
hundred dollars.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Back then, I'm like,
holy cow.
Right, you can buy a 60-inch
color television with 4k HD now
for that.
SPEAKER_02: Right, exactly.
But you know, a lot of and they
were so excited to have won it.
SPEAKER_00: I know, right?
SPEAKER_02: They couldn't wait
to pick it.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was pretty
nuts.
That was when colored and that
thing was itty bitty.
SPEAKER_02: It was, it was so
tiny.
SPEAKER_00: But it is one of
these, I guess.
That's how things happen.
You ready for the topic of the
day?
I am so we as humans, this is
where my mind is today, and this
is what energy I'm trying to
clear.
We as humans will work through a
process and we'll allow things
to come into our reality.
And like, for example, we get
told things and we take it as
face value and we believe it.
So this morning I'm asking
myself, why is it we take things
at face value for those people
and they don't follow through
with it.
And so I I'm looking for, you
know, I guess as humans we have
a tendency to want to blame
things.
SPEAKER_02: So that you can
understand it?
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think I
think more it's a search for why
is it somebody tells you
something and then they don't
follow through with it.
And so the only thing I come up
with is there's a belief system
in the way that blocks the flow.
And so we as humans, in a human
experience in this realm, in
this reality, in this dimension,
we are creating things in our
reality that blocks the flow of
things, like we were talking
about flow this morning.
And it it happens a lot.
And the only thing that can
figure out why the flow would
get blocked is if there's a
belief in the way.
Like, for example, a belief of
you're gonna go buy a new car,
and you walk into dealership,
dealership, oh yeah, we can work
a deal, you take that for face
value, and then for some reason
the terms don't meet what you
wanted.
You know, it never is exactly
what you want.
And what causes that block of
flow.
And so this morning I was kind
of enlightened a little bit
about subconscious beliefs that
we interject into our reality
and create assumptions of of
expectations.
We because we so want what we're
going after when something comes
into our reality that gets
blocked.
Why is that?
Because, like, for example, when
we first got together and we
were at the house and I said,
I'm gonna go buy a motorcycle a
day.
And I got up, I walked to the I
drove down to the walk, I sort
of say walk, drove to the
motorcycle place, I bought a
motorcycle, drive it back, pick
you up after you get out of the
shower, and we go for a ride.
SPEAKER_02: Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And it was just that
easy because I had no beliefs in
my way.
I had nothing in my way.
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: And then when you do
things, like you, you know, when
you don't expect things, when
you don't have an expectation,
and the example that came into
my mind was the app.
Okay, the expectation for it was
to be in beta by the 31st of
October.
SPEAKER_03: Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Or I say the plan
was the plan.
It's not even what an
expectation.
I nowhere in my belief system
did I expect it to be uploaded
to the Apple store on the 15th
of October.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00: And so I had no
beliefs in the way because I
didn't know.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And I didn't know
what to expect.
I didn't have a belief behind
it.
SPEAKER_03: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And so what happens?
Spirit takes over, the energy
flows, and it's uploading almost
two weeks early.
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
SPEAKER_00: Um, and so I I
equate this to um an analogy one
time that I used, and that is
take a one-pound weight and you
hold that weight and name that
weight one of your emotional
stressors.
Say, for example, we'll use
stress.
We're gonna name that weight
stress and the belief of stress,
stress that stress exists.
And you, if you believe stress
exists, then it be can become a
very heavy energy.
Okay.
So you take this weight, and if
you hold that weight out here on
your arm, just hold it out
extended.
You can hold that weight for a
while.
Well you can hold that weight
for a little while, and then the
longer you hold it.
SPEAKER_02: Depends on what you
mean by a while.
I could probably only hold it
for a few seconds.
SPEAKER_00: But the analogy of
the weight is when you're
holding it, the longer you hold
that weight, the more stressed
your muscles get, the more
fatigued your body will get, and
eventually it will lock either
lock into place and freeze up to
where you can't move it at all,
or you'll lose all ability to
even hold it at all.
You'll fatigue yourself to where
your arm drops, even just a
one-pound weight.
SPEAKER_02: I see.
SPEAKER_00: And so when you name
it, because here's the thing, is
the belief behind stress is
heavy, first of all, and then
the belief behind holding a
weight extended out for a long
period of time.
You've been taught that you
can't do it.
And so it becomes a belief as
well.
And so this morning when I was
in the shower and I was kind of
going through this process of
thinking, you know, I remember I
was 14 years old.
And I was fishing with my dad
below Uligal Dam in Oklahoma.
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry?
SPEAKER_00: Oligal.
It's a name of a lake.
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I thought you
got choked or something.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, did it.
We uh we're we're we're going up
and down the dam and we're we're
fishing and we're using doll
flies, you know, and uh we're on
bobbers and they're floating,
throwing it upstream because
they're they've released a lot
of water, so it's the river is
running really hard.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And the sand bass
were running, so we were fishing
for sand bass.
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: And I throw my line
way up by the dam and it floats
down about halfway, you know,
that uh where I was going, and
it just stops.
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
SPEAKER_00: It just stops
mid-stream, and I'm like, that's
weird.
Because this water's running.
I mean, it is going fast.
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: Like they have they
have the red cones up for almost
a mile and a half downriver
because the river is that hard.
SPEAKER_03: I see.
SPEAKER_00: And so I tell them
my dad, I'm like, Dad, my stuff
stopped.
And I go to try to pull on it,
and it don't move.
SPEAKER_02: You made resistance.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
There's and and it doesn't move,
it just sits there.
And my dad says to me, the the
thing that it took me five or
ten minutes to really think
about what he said.
He said, Well, maybe you're hung
up.
And about five minutes later,
I'm like, How the hell can I be
hung up?
It's on a bobber.
It's only 14 inches deep.
And it the the river is so high
it's not even close to the
rocks.
Not even close to the bottom.
Okay.
There's nowhere no way for it to
be hung up.
And I tell my dad, I'm like,
this ain't hung up.
It's 14 inches deep.
And about that time I'm holding
this thing, I'm trying to get it
loose.
And he comes over, grabs my rod,
starts popping the line, trying
to get it to break loose.
SPEAKER_04: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And then all of a
sudden it goes and takes off
down into the thing.
unknown: Oh.
SPEAKER_00: And so I'm holding
this fishing rod.
And nowhere in my belief did it
did I say to myself, I can't
land this fish.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: And nor did I say my
muscles are gonna get so
fatigued that I can't land this
fish.
My dad started coming over to
me, do you want me to take that
pole pole?
Well, it was almost three hours
later.
SPEAKER_02: Three hours later.
SPEAKER_00: I go up the river,
down the river, I'm chasing this
fish, and finally, we're about a
mile from the dam where we
started, you know, and all the
everybody's watching.
There's a bunch of people
around, and this this fish
finally circles the surface.
And I'm like, holy cow, this
thing was massive.
I mean, it was five foot long.
And so I go to to uh ask my dad,
how are we gonna get this thing
out of the water?
And some guy comes out of
nowhere, jumps in behind this
fish, and scoops it up out of
the water and throws it up on
bank in this fast moving water.
And then he floats downriver
about another quarter mile
before he hits shore and gets up
and comes down there and I
landed a 45-pound flathead
catfish on a four and a half
foot crappie rig.
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure to somebody
out there that means something.
Yeah, it was only a 10-pound
test line.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's big.
SPEAKER_02: That's a big fish.
SPEAKER_00: That's a big fish
for that little bitty roll.
For that rope.
Yeah, I had 10-pound tests.
It was on doll flies, and doll
flies are little bitty jigs.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: I was I was fishing
for sandbass.
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: Their average rate's
about three pounds.
SPEAKER_03: I gotcha.
SPEAKER_00: And here I am
hooking a 90% or a 900% bigger
fish on a rig that's only four
and a half, five foot long, and
it's very flimsy.
But here's the catcher is I land
this fish because something
happened.
Some I didn't have something
blocking my flow telling me I
couldn't do it.
Or it's not gonna happen.
Ah and so I go to when when we
land this fish, I go to put my
fishing pole down.
And literally, my arm is locked
in place.
I can't even extend my arm.
Like it's locked in that
position where you're fishing
and you got everything all
railed up.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: My hand that was
using, that was working the reel
was locked into the closed
position.
So I'm like, my arm my right arm
is locked up against my body,
and I'm like this, and my left
arm is is they're both caught in
this position, and I cannot
move.
Literally.
I'm like, the the muscles have
just cramped and seized into
that spot.
Okay.
But the crazy part about it was
it never hurt.
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
SPEAKER_00: And I landed this
fish, and my muscles didn't give
out, the fatigue wasn't there,
and I did not block the flow of
that situation because I
believed it.
Because I believed or had an
expectation that my muscles were
going to fatigue, or all of
that.
And so I I went through this
thought process this morning of
all of this, and that story
popped in my head.
SPEAKER_04: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And the the biggest
part about that story for me was
how do you land?
How do you land that fish?
That's a it's a great way to
really think about life.
How do you land that fish?
Anything in life.
The reality is that you don't
really know if you unless you've
experienced it.
And then a lot of the times, if
you do know because you've
experienced it, you're gonna
humanly interject into it.
And I myself am very much a
human go-getter.
I'm a social guy.
I like I have a way I like to do
things, and and and I have to
stop that process because it's
blocking my flow.
SPEAKER_02: Your 1995 wiring is
not up to date with your 2025
iOS processing.
SPEAKER_00: I'm guessing
somewhere in your in your
article today is 1990.
The second time you brought up
1995.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02: It's popped into my
head.
I mean, we're from the era, you
know, 1990s.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
And so this fish story that's in
my head.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: It is it brings to
the reality of a situation, and
this is where I'm gonna ask you
to interject.
SPEAKER_03: Oh God.
SPEAKER_00: Is why and where do
we decide that we're smarter
than the people that created
this planet, this world, this
environment, this and why do we
interhumanly interject?
Why do we block our own flow?
Because you know what happened
uh about two weeks after that
fish?
What?
I caught almost a state record
largemouth bass.
SPEAKER_02: Oh, nice.
SPEAKER_00: Brought him up out,
picked him up, and my because it
took me a few minutes of
fighting this fish, yeah, my
hand cramped and I dropped him
back in the water.
Oh after he was weighed.
Oh and so because I created a
belief that my muscles were
gonna do that thing, I believed
it.
And then what happens after we
weigh this fish, we've got him
out of the water, and oh, he was
almost a state record.
I mean, he was like two ounces
off.
And I go to take it, I hold him
out, take another picture of it,
my arm cramps, and I drop him,
and if I created a belief on
something that I did nine nine
times bigger than that one just
two weeks before that.
Yeah, and so interjection to
you, where I want you to give me
your doctorisms, is when we have
a belief like that that is
non-happenstance belief, that we
don't really create or think
about, it just kind of happens.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: How do you stop
that?
SPEAKER_02: Well, first is hi
welcome Dr.
SPEAKER_00: Jenny to the studio.
SPEAKER_02: Thank you for having
me.
Well, this can go in two
different directions.
First, what happens is you
remember I teach that there's
pain and pleasure.
Okay.
Then there is also this security
mechanism, am I safe, uh, that
goes on and takes place here.
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
SPEAKER_02: So in the first
experience, everything locked
into place, if you will, but
there was no discomfort.
You just didn't know what you
didn't know.
Right.
There wasn't any discomfort,
there wasn't anything.
But after the magnitude of what
happened disappeared, and the
excitement and the joy of that
disappeared, then not being able
to move your arms, even though
they were not painful, or your
hands and come out of that
position created a little bit of
a scary point.
SPEAKER_00: It was actually
here's uh I'm gonna stop you
right there a minute because it
wasn't scary to me.
I didn't know what to think
about.
No.
SPEAKER_02: So never did you
say, What if I can't get my
hands to move, or what if I
can't get my arms to move?
SPEAKER_00: No, I was actually
laughing about it, actually.
I was it was in because it never
hurt, even when it relaxed and
came back.
I never had pain.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_00: But that I can
remember.
SPEAKER_02: I feel certain that
if I were to put you under
hypnosis somewhere where you
were not um consciously
acknowledging it, there was
probably that small snippet of
moment where it was like,
especially as a child.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I remember my
dad saying, I told you that
would do that.
SPEAKER_02: What if I stay like
this?
Oh my god, what if this what if
I can't change it?
It could be just a small
microscopic snippet.
SPEAKER_00: Maybe I don't and I
don't remember that if that
happened.
SPEAKER_02: And because it took
you for a brief second, and this
is just a possibility.
It took you for a brief second
into that place of I didn't know
what I didn't know, and now into
a place of, oh, I did something
that caused my body to do
something weird and unusual that
was a bit on the weird side, and
I wouldn't want to walk around
my entire life with my arms bent
in that angle, even if there was
no pain, it created a little bit
of uneasiness within you,
probably, and that logged as
shaking the ground of safety,
and so inadvertently on a
subconscious level, you created
a belief that caused you to
release the other fish before it
got to that point, because
beliefs can occur on a
subconscious level.
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
SPEAKER_02: You can create a
belief inside you that is
happening without you even being
aware that it's happening, if it
taints the security platform
that you've created feeling
safe, or if it is uh more
painful than pleasurable.
So if it creates a security
threshold vibration, shakes your
security safety foundation, even
in the slightest little bit,
it'll throw up a red flag.
And if it's painful, which you
already said it wasn't, I'm just
giving the collective things to
to recognize versus uh
pleasurable, even if it's not so
painful that it brings you to
your knees, it can in the
background create an inadvertent
belief in the mechanism of
keeping you safe and secure
inadvertently.
Okay, and so And it can happen
without you knowing that it's
happened.
It can be it can happen
unconsciously and you don't even
know that it's there.
SPEAKER_00: So what I wanted to
bring to the table in this topic
was we are taught a lot of
beliefs.
SPEAKER_02: Yes, we are.
SPEAKER_00: And most of our
beliefs most of our beliefs as
we're growing up are given to
us.
SPEAKER_02: A lot of them are,
yes, I agree.
But some of them get created
based on that uh safety security
mechanism and the pain and
pleasure mechanism.
We'll create our own at any age.
SPEAKER_00: That's where I'm
going with that.
Is I didn't know it was I didn't
know it hurt until I had all
these people around me saying,
Oh, that's gonna be, you know,
it's gonna hurt and whatever.
You know, like I went into my
high school gym and there was a
big thing in the weight room
that said, No pain, no gain.
I used to quote a movie quote
all the time to people.
It I believe it was from uh
Roadhouse, Patrick Swayze, he
said, pain don't hurt.
I used to quote that all the
time.
SPEAKER_02: Why?
SPEAKER_00: Well, because in
reality, are we does pain really
hurt?
Or are we giving a sensation in
our body a name and attaching an
emotion to it that creates a
result?
And that's kind of where I was
going with this today, isn't it?
And I wanted to take it to a
place of you know, why is a
pencil called the pencil?
Why is why are we taking uh
human experiences and giving
them labels and attaching
emotions to them?
You know, like the word stress,
I use that today because the
doctor asked me one time, Well,
are you stressed?
I didn't know what stress is.
I don't know what it feels like.
And and I don't want to know
what it feels like.
SPEAKER_03: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And so do I have
what they say is stress?
Like I I we're tell I we as
humans and in our society, we
take things that we're given and
we give them weight.
And we hold on to that weight.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And when we take
that weight and we hold it out
there and we stand it out, you
know, we are taught that your
muscles will fatigue and
eventually you'll put that
weight down.
And and what I don't want to get
caught up in, which I'm gonna
change in my life, is I am not
gonna take what other people
say.
I'm not gonna take what beliefs
are anymore, and I'm gonna
really work on taking those kind
of happenstances in my life
away.
Because the reality is, is we've
attached emotions to these to
these things that we're taught.
We've attached a strong belief
and we hang on to those.
And so I'm just gonna let the
weight go.
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, I mean,
that's the premise of what you
and I teach as a whole, is that
weight by weight, if you can let
them go, then reality takes on a
whole different meaning,
perspective, experience.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
Like like when we left our job
and we have we went on this
journey that we're on now.
That was a big weight for me.
I was hanging on to that weight.
And I I had attached to that
weight fear.
I had attached I had attached
many things.
And I can go through a whole
list, but there's a whole list
there.
And what I did about, I don't
know, a month and a half ago, is
I had let that weight go.
And I finally let that weight
go.
And I detached emotions, and I
really don't care.
And I'm not giving it any weight
in my life of worry or, you
know, whatever that is, whatever
we attach to these stupid
things.
Because the reality is, is no
matter what emotion you put with
it, doesn't change it.
It is what it is.
You know, I you hear me say that
a lot.
It is what it is.
It's what's the use of thinking
about it or worrying it?
And so in this whole system that
we're talking about, you know,
we listen to people, they tell
us things, we take it for face
value, we attach an emotion to
it if they do it, and we attach
an emotion to it if they don't
do it.
We we take what what we think is
supposed to happen, we attach an
emotion to it if what what it
looks like if it makes us happy,
and we attach an emotion to it
if what it looks like if if it
doesn't make us happy.
And what if we remove those
emotions and let them emotion
just be natural?
Don't attach anything to it and
remove the expectations, because
if there is something out there
you're hanging on to, you will
continuously through hope, which
you talked about in on your
money blog, you know, that you
just posted yesterday.
Oh no, it's not posted
yesterday.
SPEAKER_02: I was having a few
glitches.
It'll be posted today.
SPEAKER_00: You know, we we take
hope and we turn it into
something that it's not.
Yeah, I mean we we turn all of
this, we we attach emotions to
it and everything.
And then we we take hope and we
put all of our weight in one
basket because we attach
emotions to it.
I hope this happens.
Oh my gosh.
I hope this happens or hope this
is gonna be this way.
And when we do that, you're
setting yourself up for failure.
Because whatever you're hoping
for may not supposed to be
happening in the in the way
you're s that you're trying to
create in your mind.
This is all just a visual world
that we're living in.
And we take this these uh
situations and we attach human
emotions to them, which we're
supposed to have human
experiences while we're here,
but are we attaching them in the
right way?
And so stopping to look at it
and not taking other people's
experiences for face value and
experience it yourself before
you attach an emotion to it.
And that's kind of where my mind
is today.
I know it's kind of a weird deep
subject, and I'm carrying it
along a long ways here.
But the reality is there's a lot
of people that I know that do
this.
I want this to happen.
This way, and if it don't, this
is gonna happen, or this emotion
happens, or they create a fear
behind it.
Oh my god, I can't fly.
I'm gonna die and on the uh if I
fly.
You know, those kind of things.
We attach in motion because
somewhere somebody has taught
them that flying is f is
dangerous, or driving a car down
the road is dangerous, or or
going out on the limb and
leaving your job is a dangerous
thing to do.
And that's where I was when I
released the part of all of this
today that I'm releasing, which
I have to rebalance.
It's been kind of a weird little
roll energetic roller coaster
for me because of a
disappointment that that I
experienced yesterday.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And I'm okay with
what happened yesterday, and I
don't blame it on anybody else,
other than I had put an
expectation and I blocked my own
flow.
And so when people that are
listening out there, you need to
understand that when you create
an expectation, you are that's
all human.
Spirit knows what to do.
Your higher self knows what to
do, your God knows what to do,
whatever that is, what you need.
And then they're gonna give it
to you when you have faith and
don't have hope.
And you don't attach emotions to
it.
What I'm saying is stop and look
at it.
Stop and let the flow happen.
Whatever that is.
If I would have held my dad's
expectation on what was gonna
happen with me fighting this
fish, I would have never landed
that fish because it creates a
block in flow and block in that
energy and a block of the
experience.
And so we as spiritual
individuals, if we realize that
when we do that, you stop your
own flow because you're supposed
to have your experience, not the
other person's experience.
SPEAKER_03: Right.
SPEAKER_00: You'll see it all
the time.
People, you know, if you don't
believe me, go sit down in a
coffee shop and tell somebody
tell somebody that walks in that
you're gonna start some kind of
stupid business and make
something up.
The every time, the very first
thing that comes out their mouth
is gonna be the negatives.
You know, like the experience
that we had the other day with
this shark that we met with.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: The very first thing
that came out his mouth was
negative to everybody.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Why?
Because he's trying to sell
something.
Now, and he you know he may
believe what he's saying.
I don't know.
Don't really care.
Because his experience is not
gonna be mine.
unknown: Right.
SPEAKER_03: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And that's where we
have to go with it in life is if
you're having experiences
humanly, they're supposed to be
yours, not somebody else's.
SPEAKER_03: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And so we as humans,
we attach all this stuff to
these things.
Why?
What does it accomplish?
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, you
tell me.
SPEAKER_00: I got on my soapbox
this morning there, a little
bit.
And just for those people that
listen, Dr.
Jenny is not the only one that
studies this stuff, too.
unknown: Just play it.
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
SPEAKER_00: That was just
playing.
That was a joke.
So the part of it that I really
am looking forward to teach
everybody is the freedom behind
creating freedom.
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: What what what's it
feel like?
How do you do that?
How do you create that freedom?
How do you stop yourself from
attaching emotions and
expectations to experiences in
life?
This is where Dr.
Ginny steps in again.
SPEAKER_02: Oh no.
This is your journey.
You tell us how did you do it?
How are you doing it?
SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, I'm not
perfect at it by any means.
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I'm not saying
you are, but you were you're
personally going through or have
gone through situation.
And so what did you do to
release it?
SPEAKER_00: Like back in the day
when I when I started my
restaurant company, I had zero
expectations, and nobody around
me had had experiences that they
could give me their negatives on
because nobody had been down
that road, which was actually a
very much a benefit for me.
And so all I did was kept doing
the next right thing.
unknown: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: What felt good
today.
Right.
What feels good tomorrow.
Not so much that I did I create
an emotion and follow that
emotion because that's what we
do as humans.
When we get something in our
mind, we create an emotion based
off the expectations we
visualize in our head of what's
going to happen with this
experience.
And then we try to follow the
happy journey.
Is that always the right way to
do?
No, it's not, because we're
attaching emotions to an
experience that we haven't
experienced.
Now, when we do that, if you've
experienced it, you can 100%
attach an emotion to it because
you've already been through it.
Like if I would have taken my
belief system from, say, my dad.
My dad said, Oh, you're gonna go
into business for yourself.
It's so so such a hard thing.
And I believed that, then my
business probably would have
failed because I had a belief
behind it and I'm attaching an
emotion.
It's gonna make me tired,
tired's gonna make me this, and
then you we go through this
thing as humans where we do
that.
Now I would tell everybody to
this day that running a business
and opening your own business is
fun.
Because I did have a good time
doing that.
I enjoyed it.
Now, did was there after I
started listening to other
people and doing other things,
there was bumpy roads in it?
Yes.
There was bumpy roads in it
because I took on other people's
experiences.
And when you can when you can
look at every adventure or
everything in your life that
you're creating new experiences
in, go into it open-minded and
without expectation.
Just go do it, you know, like
like we went and scuba dived.
Not once did I ever say, Oh my
god, I could die doing this.
unknown: Right.
SPEAKER_00: Because nobody
around us told us that.
SPEAKER_03: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And so, and we were
went through this experience
without attaching an emotion to
it.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: The more we did of
it, the more excited we become
because we were creating our own
experience and our own emotion
in it.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: The scoop instructor
was like, Oh my god, I I dive,
you know, I've been diving,
well, I don't remember what he
said.
He had 400 dives or something.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00: I don't even
remember.
It was like an astronomical
amount of dives that he had been
through.
And he loves every minute of it.
And so it was it was uh we had
went through this journey not
knowing what to expect.
And we didn't create an
expectation.
What we did create was the
opportunity of positivity and
being open-minded.
And so if we can look at
everything in our life, you
know, you're starting a new
business, you're starting a new
job, you're day going into a new
relationship, you you can't take
your experiences unless they are
100% identical and tag emotions
to them.
You know, you and I had this
conversation the other day.
If you start a new experience
with another person, you can't
take the experience from the
other person and tag it to that
person unless they're identical,
unless it's the same person,
because it's a new experience.
And you can't create an
expectation of that person to uh
to act a certain way because you
really have no idea.
SPEAKER_03: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And so if you're
going to do something like that,
you have to go into it with a
blank slate.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And don't attach
emotions to it.
Don't attach expectations to it.
Just go into it with a blank
slate.
And that's where I am with my
experiences now, is I'm going
through this process of, you
know what, I enjoyed starting my
own business.
I really did.
There was no there was in the
first five or six years of it,
there was no part of it that I
didn't like.
Was it a lot of work?
Yeah, but I hadn't labeled that
as work.
SPEAKER_03: Right.
SPEAKER_00: You know, just like
us and our, you know, we've been
doing a ton of work for this
app, but we don't have it
labeled in our belief system as
work.
Right.
And so it's fun.
And it's the same thing with
every opportunity.
When something comes in, you
know, like yesterday, our
experience, I had an opportunity
for me to blink that slate.
And I didn't do it.
And that changed the outcome of
the event.
Because we attach expectation,
we attach emotion, and then we
we hinder the journey.
And if we go through our lives
doing that without blinking the
slate out for every experience,
you're just gonna bring baggage
along with you.
You know, you've got it, one of
the cards in the deck you read
yesterday on the way home, which
rang my bell, was uh something
about packing Katie or Kate,
whatever, Karen, don't ever pack
or it's actually a t-shirt and
it says pack light or don't.
SPEAKER_02: It's not my thanking
luggage, it's yours.
SPEAKER_00: Right, or not my
baggage, yeah.
SPEAKER_02: Not my baggage, it's
yours.
SPEAKER_00: And so when you pack
heavy and you carry that baggage
along, you're creating the
experience and the uh ripple
effect of every experience that
you're in.
Because that experience can
change today.
Every time.
If you don't believe me, go
bowling.
Go out there, stand in the same
spot, throw the ball what you
feel is the exact same way, and
see if it strikes every time.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: It will.
It will strike every time if you
believe it will.
SPEAKER_03: Right.
SPEAKER_00: But if you create an
expectation of it striking and
an emotion behind it, if it
don't, you've now created a
ripple effect.
SPEAKER_02: So talk deeper about
expectation then, um, because I
feel like that's a trip-up
point.
If how do you have an experience
and know the difference between
having an expectation that boxes
that experience in or having a
goal that actually keeps you
driving forward on what you
expect yourself to accomplish
from like a goal standpoint?
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
So I'm gonna start off with the
answering that question very
simply.
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: Every religious
doctrine in this world states,
come to me as a child.
And that doesn't mean like
literally in a child's sense.
That means with a child's
mindset.
SPEAKER_02: You mean don't come
to you with your hair uncombed
and gum in your hair and you're
black and beer fitted.
SPEAKER_00: What it means is the
curiosity and the energy behind
it.
Okay.
So, like for example, if you go
down to a Jeep dealership and
you're gonna go buy a new Jeep
and you meet the crappiest
salesperson in the world, don't
give you the deal you want, and
you buy a Jeep.
And you're not happy with it,
you've now created a ripple
effect of energy.
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: Two years later,
you're gonna go down and buy,
you're gonna, you know what?
I'm tired, I'm ready to get me a
new Jeep.
Do you go back to that same car
lot?
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I probably
wouldn't.
I probably wouldn't have bought
the car in the first place
there.
I probably would have left, but
that's just me.
SPEAKER_00: Well, what I'm
telling people is is you should
go back and recreate the
experience.
Because if you tag your previous
experiences and expectations of
this adventure now, based off
that adventure then, you're just
bringing that energy with you.
SPEAKER_02: I see.
So go back to the same place so
that you can actually have a
positive experience that cancels
out the negative experience and
log it in a different way to
help you not have an expectation
or formulate a belief around
that experience.
SPEAKER_00: Correct.
SPEAKER_02: I see.
SPEAKER_00: Um, what I'm saying
is, is you can't go into a new
adventure with an expectation
because of a of somebody else's
uh result of an experience.
Or your own.
Or even your own if it was
negative.
If it wasn't a positive
experience, then don't keep it.
Don't hang on to that weight.
SPEAKER_02: I see.
SPEAKER_00: Go into it
different.
Go into it with a mindset of I
am gonna make this the best
experience of my life.
And I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna
have an expectation of anything
happening today because when the
opportunities come up, and I'm
not saying go out and create the
opportunities because that's
human interjection.
I'm saying when these
opportunities in your life and
your adventures in your life
happen, you have to release the
negatives.
What I mean by that is is stop
and say, I am not gonna give the
power to the negative in this.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm not gonna go
to that Jeep dealership and
experience the same salesman.
SPEAKER_02: I see.
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna go and
have a better experience.
SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00: And you set your
intentions.
Intentions are way different
than expectations.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
No, I agree a hundred percent.
SPEAKER_00: And that's where the
that gets cloudied, I think.
And so when we're going through
this life and we go to this Jeep
dealership, before I go, I'm
gonna say to myself, I'm gonna
have a heck of a lot better
experience this time.
This salesman's not gonna do it
what it what he did last time,
even if it's the same salesman.
Because the reality is, is that
person's reality's changed too.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And if you go in
there and you go to the and that
salesman approaches you, that
same one you had a bad
experience with before, and you
hang on to the negatives, you
will instantaneously change the
environment.
SPEAKER_03: Right.
SPEAKER_00: You will
instantaneously put him right
back.
You have no idea.
He his his whole reality has
changed in the two years.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: He he could have,
you know, he could have just
been having a bad day that day
you met him.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: You don't really
know because we carry the ripple
effect with us.
unknown: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And when we have
when we create the expectations.
So let me let me redefine this.
Let me stop for a minute.
Okay.
The difference between
intentions and expectations are
very simple.
An expectation has a visualized
result, it has an emotion
attached to it.
An intention is a visualized
result that we are open-minded
to.
We allow the flow to happen.
So when you when you set your
heard it here first, ladies and
gentlemen.
When we when we set our
intention and we allow it to
happen as it's supposed to,
without expectation or emotion,
you're gonna have the best
result that you possibly can.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: But when you go into
it and you change that intention
by adding emotion to it or a
visualized result, you have now
taken your intention, turned it
into an expectation, and
restricted the flow.
Why and how?
Let me explain to you how.
If you go in there with an
intention of, I'm gonna have the
best experience ever, I'm gonna
love what happens, and I'm open
to whatever happens, and now
you've changed it into I'm gonna
go in there and have the best
experience ever, and I'm gonna
buy this Jeep, but it's probably
gonna be more than I expected it
to be.
Now you have now set that
intention into an expectation,
and it's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_00: You are gonna pay
more for that Jeep than you want
to.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Or even on the other
side of that, you say to
yourself, I'm gonna meet the
same, I'm gonna go to the same
salesman this time, and I'm
gonna change his reality.
I'm gonna change him.
The reality is you can't change
him.
You have now created an emotion
and expectation that you're
going to change him.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And change the
result of what happened.
You can't do that either.
SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
SPEAKER_00: You have to allow
things to happen and create your
own experience and only put the
positive results in.
Remove the negatives.
Don't believe in the negatives.
And don't carry the negatives
along because you have no idea
the situation.
You know, like the salesman
example, he could have just
left, his wife could have left
him.
He could have filed bankruptcy.
You don't have no idea.
Right.
He could have just been having a
bad day.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
He maybe he sharded his pants.
SPEAKER_00: At Taco Bell.
SPEAKER_02: Maybe it was not a
trust your fart day.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe.
Could have been.
SPEAKER_02: But and he was
sitting in cold poop.
SPEAKER_00: Holy cow, I have
been on my soapbox now for
almost the entire time today.
SPEAKER_02: It's okay.
It happens sometimes.
SPEAKER_00: And so this is where
I'm at in my life.
And this is where I got out of
the shower with, and I was
working on my energy outside
with you on, is I'm trying to
clear the energy behind
expectations and failure and
negatives.
And so when we when I get up
from this mic today, I will no
longer attach negative energy
negative results or energy or
emotions to any of my journeys
going forward.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, it
it's a good place to try and get
to because that's how that
inadvertent entanglement
happens.
Yes.
Um, because you attach a
previous experience and the
emotional content to it and the
expectation to it, and then you
go and do the next experience.
And if there are any
similarities at all, even if the
whole journey is different, but
there's one similarity, you
automatically throw up a red
flag, then you start that
expectation kind of negative
talk.
Well, now you've entangled that
experience into the previous
one, right?
And it can just keep going on
and on and on, and then it can
become an actual uh habit and a
proverbial loop, if you will, on
how your reality will express
itself.
Um gosh, this always happens to
me.
This always happens this way,
and it can happen in all areas
of your life, Pi, or just one,
but that's how things
inadvertently get entangled
because as you're attaching that
and you're not blanking out the
palette, right?
Like you said, which is an
absolute wonderful thing, and
you're going into it with the
previous experience already in
your mind, and you have an
expectation that this one may go
that same way, then you
entangled fear.
Yeah, then you don't let it
become what it naturally wanted
to become and give spirit, God,
higher self the platform to be
able to make it something other
than what you expect it to be.
Right.
You tie them into a box where
and so the rabbit hole concept
is they're gonna create that
reality to where it becomes this
just amazing experience.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_02: But if your
frequency is not letting you get
there, you'll you'll not
experience it.
You won't see it, you won't hear
it, you won't taste it, you
won't smell it.
Right.
You'll only align with that
experience that your frequency
is vibing at.
And if you are going into the
new experience with those
previous experience vibrations
based on the way that you
identified it and defined it,
you'll experience more of the
same.
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I agree.
You know, and like uh when I've
worked with people or I've
talked to people in the past,
you know, I used to have this
girl that worked for me.
And she was just she was
beautiful.
She was a beautiful girl, smart,
educated, very intelligent.
But she could not find a guy
that matched her for crap.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: She would always
come to me, she'd be like, Man,
you know, this guy did this,
this guy did that.
And she always seemed to find
the same guys that did the same
things.
SPEAKER_02: The douchebags.
SPEAKER_00: The douche, yeah.
I mean, she I told her one day,
I'm like, the problem is is your
picker's broke.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And she was like,
What do you mean?
I said, You carry the
expectations along.
You go in there picking these
guys that have the same
qualities, the same things, but
yet you don't expect them to act
differently.
You expect them to act the same,
but you continue to pick them.
SPEAKER_03: Right.
SPEAKER_00: But why?
Why would you bring the
expectation with you?
And it's the same concept that
we do with every experience in
our own life.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the
unfortunate thing about the
whole mechanism is that once
that expectation is formulated
from the experience that it came
from, originated from, it
happens subconsciously.
And so until you bring it to
your awareness and realize that
you're doing it.
Right.
And then begin to actively
change the habit behind it or
the programming behind it,
unfortunately, it will keep
happening behind the scenes.
SPEAKER_00: Because you're
carrying it with you.
It's repeating it.
SPEAKER_02: You don't even know
that you're doing it most of the
time.
Most people don't even know
they're doing it.
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
You know, I what I said to her,
why don't you go after this kind
of guy?
Oh, because they do these
things.
And that's worse than what's
going on there, first of all.
Second of all, how do you know
that?
Oh, my friends have told me.
Oh.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: So that's why.
SPEAKER_03: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And of course, she
later on ended up meeting one of
the guys that I told her the
style.
I was like, because she she
might end up meeting the vice
president of a banking company.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And she ended up
leaving, you know, working for
me and to work for him.
She told me I seen her like, I
don't know, a year and a half,
two years later at one of the
conventions, and because she
went to work for the started
dating the vice president of the
bank that we banked at.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And uh I seen her at
one of the banking events and
she said, you know, I gotta say
this.
I was like, what?
She said, you were right.
I was like, what do you mean?
Well, I'm dating Danny now.
Okay, great.
How's it going?
Oh, it's perfect.
Why is it perfect?
I don't know, it just happened.
Here's your sign.
Because you didn't expect it to
happen any other way, because it
just happened.
SPEAKER_02: All right.
SPEAKER_00: And that's how the
life journey is supposed to be.
When we as humans interject
ourselves into it with our
previous experiences that on the
negatives only, because that's
where we really screw things up.
We attach the negative emotions,
the negative experiences, the
even if it's not even ours,
we'll attach them to it.
You know, like how many times,
and and I challenge everybody
out there, how many times in
your life have you gone to go
get a loan and you go into the
bank expecting to happen what it
to happen what happened before?
SPEAKER_02: To be told no.
SPEAKER_00: To be told no, or
have high interest.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: Because you expect
it to happen.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And you have now
created that realm.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
That you've created that
dimension, that can right, that
continuous loop.
You've got yourself trapped in
this loop, and until you make
yourself aware of it and change
habits and consciously catch
yourself having that thought.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_02: And make yourself
stop and recalibrate to a new
thought before you go in there,
eliminating expectation and just
being okay with it is what it
is, and whichever way this goes,
I will be and am perfectly okay.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
I mean, and I'm gonna give
somebody, I'm gonna give
everybody before we close one
more little example.
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
SPEAKER_00: When I was 24, 25,
me and a friend of mine were
gonna go to the the uh finals
rodeo in Belt, Montana.
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
SPEAKER_00: And we go there.
We didn't have tickets.
We just went.
SPEAKER_02: Why am I not
surprised?
SPEAKER_00: We just went because
you well, you know, you know my
process.
SPEAKER_02: I do know your
process.
SPEAKER_00: I do.
And so we go.
SPEAKER_02: Pack a backpack,
whatever you can freaking fit in
there.
It may be backpacked full of
nothing but granola bars and no
clothes, and you wear the same
clothes, or you have room for
one skinny outfit and whatever.
SPEAKER_00: We'll worry about it
when we get there.
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
SPEAKER_00: But and he looked
like I was, you know, his name
was Chris, and Chris Droggan, if
you're listening to me, you
you'll remember this story.
We went to the National Finals
Rodeo.
It's in Montana at the time, and
I think it's moved a million
times since then.
But he said, How are we gonna
get in?
Yeah, it was cold.
And where are we gonna stay?
I'm like, Well, we're gonna take
tents.
It's cold.
I don't care.
We had tents, we're gonna throw
them in the back of the truck,
and uh, you're gonna take
whatever money you got, and I'm
gonna take whatever money.
And he's like, How are you gonna
get in?
It's sold out.
And we get there and we set up
the tents and we cook dinner,
and the next day the rodeo
starts, and he said, How are you
gonna get in?
I'm like, we're gonna walk in
the back door like we own the
place.
Oh, you're gonna go to jail.
I'm like, No, we're gonna walk
in, we're gonna take our bag
with us, we're gonna carry it
over our shoulder like we're
bull riders, we're gonna put our
cowboy hat on, and we're gonna
walk right in the back gate like
we belong there.
And he said, You're gonna end up
in jail.
Or he said, he said, we're gonna
end up in jail.
I said, I'll tell you what, if
you have that thought, you stay
back there.
SPEAKER_02: Right, don't even
go, stay in your tent.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
And so I walked right in the
back door, walked in the back
place, and I get there, and the
the girl at the death, I
literally walked right, but they
opened the gate for me because I
look like a bull rider to them.
SPEAKER_04: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And so I walk in the
gate, they open the gate, I get
to the corner, the girl hands me
the freaking pass that I put
around my neck that I can get in
free for the entire time I'm
there.
SPEAKER_02: Uh probably with all
access, not even just uh you
could probably go anywhere.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
Because I sent the intention of
having fun.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And if I went to
jail, I didn't care.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't about
that.
It was about I was just gonna go
do this.
SPEAKER_01: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And it's gonna
happen, and I'm gonna set my
intentions and I'm gonna allow
it to happen.
And I walked right in the back
door, they gave me the pass, and
I was there for seven days for
free because it was sold out,
you couldn't get in.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And the coolest part
about it was is I got to sit in
the bull rider pin.
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's why I was saying that
access probably let you in
places that you wouldn't have
normally got in.
SPEAKER_00: It did.
I even went to the table and
they gave me a number I put on
my back like I was a rider.
unknown: Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00: Never once did I get
on any bull, and nobody never
once did anybody ask me when do
you ride?
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
SPEAKER_00: I just operated
through things.
So he Chris, an hour later, and
because I go back out, I got my
pass, and I meet him in the
truck.
SPEAKER_02: He's like, Oh my
fucking God.
SPEAKER_00: Oh my God.
How'd you get that pass?
It was a VIP pass.
And the lady just handed it to
me.
I did, she didn't ask my name
because he was standing at the
corner with the passes that the
people were letting in the back
gate.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: That was the bull
rider's pass.
SPEAKER_03: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And so I guess when
I just walk in carrying my bag,
I walk back out the gate in the
front, and I go out and I put my
bag back in the truck and I walk
back in, and I'm out there
talking to Chris before I walk
in.
And I said, Are you gonna do it?
He said, I'm scared.
I'm like, don't do it until
you've until you can walk in
there like you've owned the
place.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: You gotta have that
mentality, you gotta have that
thought.
Carry your bag over your
shoulder like you're a bull
rider and walk right in the back
door.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And he gets about a
hundred steps from the door and
he's and he gets stopped.
And he somehow mustered up and I
distracted the guy because I
came in the back.
I'm like, Chris, come on, man,
what are you waiting on?
And uh so he then so they're
like, oh, oh, oh, and they seen
my pass, and they're like, oh,
I'm like, bro, what are you
doing?
What are you holding him up for?
And he he got in and he and we
he goes over there, the girl
gives him his pass, and he was
literally almost in tears
because they were about to
escort him off the property.
SPEAKER_02: You were about to
jingle him up.
SPEAKER_00: They were.
I'm like, what are y'all
blocking him for?
He's with me.
And uh so the crazy part about
all of it was is is you know,
I'm gonna close it in that is
because when you can go to it in
that mentality, life in that
mentality of you know what?
This reality is mine to live it
and experience it the way I want
to.
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
That's absolutely right.
SPEAKER_00: And then I were I
seen Chris, I don't know,
probably three or four months
later at the Tulsa rodeo.
And he was wearing a VIP pass.
And I said, I said, How'd you
get the VIP pass?
And he said, I walked right in
the back door like I owned the
place.
And he did, and and he that's
how we got in there.
We never paid for to get into a
rodeo, a concert, none of that
stuff when we were younger.
We just walked right in the back
door like we owned it.
And so that's what I'm telling,
I challenge everybody out there,
all these listeners today.
SPEAKER_02: Walk in the back
door like you own it, walk into
that next reality like you own
it.
Don't carry the ripples already
what you want to be.
SPEAKER_00: That is correct.
SPEAKER_02: That's what living
in the moment, that's what we
try to teach is living in the
moment of what it is that you
have in your daydreams.
Yeah, what would it be like if I
were this?
Right.
Live in the moment now as if
you're already that, right?
Walk in the back door like you
are the bull rider, already
embracing that reality, and do
what that person would do,
living in that reality that you
want.
That's living in the now, doing
the next right step and the next
right step.
And that literally, that reality
will build right underneath your
feet, right before your eyes,
one step at a time.
SPEAKER_00: And and I'm gonna
add a next step to this real
quick, even though we're going
long today.
Is when I was released from
jail, when I was released, I
walked out that door like I
owned the place.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And you should do
the same thing on any bad
experience.
You walk out that door and you
leave.
The negative behind and don't
listen to the bull crap like
that uh guard said to me, I'll
see you in six months.
You ain't gonna see me in six
months, motherfucker.
SPEAKER_04: Right.
SPEAKER_00: And I literally I
flipped him off.
I was like, you know what, don't
don't do that.
And I walked out the door and I
left it and I've never been
back.
And I will never go back because
I left that ripple effect
behind.
SPEAKER_03: That's right.
SPEAKER_00: I am not still to
this day, I am not fearful of
anything when that happens.
When any anything to do with
that, I have left those ripples
behind.
And sometimes going into the
door without the negative is or
walking out the door and leaving
the negative is just as
important as walking in the door
without it.
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00: And because now
you're gonna leave behind the
negatives, and eventually when
you leave behind the negatives
and the emotions and the
expectations, you you don't have
to worry about not carrying them
with you because they're not
there.
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
And that is a good a a good
ending point there because what
I want to remind everybody is
you step into a new reality
millions of times in a day.
Microseconds.
Every second you're in a
different reality, you're a
different you.
You've learned from the previous
second.
So step into that place or step
out of that place knowing that
you're a new you and there's no
need to carry that baggage with
you.
Right.
That past part is over, it's
done with.
And so leave it where it is and
pick up a new blank slate to
create from.
SPEAKER_00: Right.
You know, it's right.
SPEAKER_02: And then walk in the
back door like you own the
place.
That's right.
SPEAKER_00: Walk in like you own
the place.
I used to tell everyone my
employees that when you walk in
the front door of my building,
you leave everything at the
door.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
SPEAKER_00: And that's what you
should do.
Anytime you walk into a new
adventure, leave everything at
the door.
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, hey,
sorry for Bogarton, the whole
podcast thing.
SPEAKER_02: No, hey.
SPEAKER_00: It was a pretty deep
run for me.
You all don't y'all don't hear
me get into these stages very
often.
SPEAKER_02: I don't, you know, I
my work here is done.
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't even have
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No, it's good.
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