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Speaker 1: Good morning
everybody.
Welcome back to the podcast.
We are in studio today again.
Speaker 2: Good morning.
Speaker 1: We're trying to bless
everybody with our awesome
present.
Speaker 2: Some might not think
that's a blessing.
Speaker 1: No, I mean presents
like Christmas presents.
Speaker 2: Oh, a little word
play.
Speaker 1: You like that?
Yeah, that's clever.
So every now and then I can be
clever.
Every now and then.
Speaker 2: Every once and again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I try.
Speaker 2: Clever.
Speaker 3: Not to be confused
with cleaver.
Speaker 1: Cleaver Clever, don't
they spell it the same.
Speaker 2: I have no idea.
Speaker 1: Maybe not.
C-l-e-a-b-e -R.
No, it's cleaver and it's
clever.
C-l-e-b-e-r Okay.
Speaker 2: Vocabulary lesson
Spelling bee lesson.
We got it all here for you
folks.
Whatever your pleasure is,
we've got it.
We got it right here.
Tune in, you never know.
Speaker 1: Did you do drama in
school, like acting and all that
stuff?
Speaker 2: So I was in drama
class.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I was
the weird kid that never got
picked oh, so you really got it,
got the whole the prop yeah, I
was behind the scenes crap,
which never was pleasing because
you know I wanted an actual
role.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even in like.
I can remember in elementary
school being at a school and I
want it was about something to
do with christmas, obviously,
but for some reason it had
onions and green beans.
Instead of getting to be like
the main character of, like mary
or whatever, and I don't know
how the green beans played into
it, but I remember wanting to be
like the main character of like
Mary or whatever, and I don't
know how the green beans played
into it, but I remember wanting
to be like one of the main
characters.
even if it was just like the
donkey, I would have settled for
the donkey.
And for some reason I ended up
only getting to be like a green
bean.
Speaker 1: You didn't go to your
teacher and say look, I've been
practicing my e-halls.
Speaker 2: I did go to my
teacher on a couple of occasions
and I don't really even
remember what I was told, but I
can just remember being
disappointed that I only got to
be a green bean and not.
Speaker 1: We did a 4-H play.
Speaker 3: We did a 4-H play.
Speaker 1: When I was in 4-H and
it was a fundraiser play to
raise money for seeds, I guess,
because we planted this huge
garden every year, the city
actually gave it to us to plant
and I was Zuko in the Greece
play and I sucked.
Speaker 2: I forgot my lines
like 19 million times I have no
doubt, and I can only imagine
your ad-lipping and what that
looked like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty
crazy.
I can only imagine I had
everybody laughing, though.
Speaker 2: I bet you did.
Speaker 1: Do you ever wonder
why they call it drama class?
Speaker 2: I have never wondered
that no.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 2: And what did you come
up with?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, know,
because they call acting,
acting.
They call movies, movies.
But yet when you're growing up
and like, they call the college
where they teach, it act is the
college of uh arts.
It's not, it's not drama right
but why do they call it drama?
I've always wondered.
When I call it like highway?
Life is a highway because it
changes all the time, right,
because it's like you're acting
into playing different parts and
just like the highway, it's
always changing.
Food for thought not really no,
not for me, didn't, didn't even
tweak it a little bit, no.
Speaker 2: No, it was more like
crickets.
But hey, you do, you boo.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's not good
, Anyway.
So that brings me into the
topic of the day.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me remind
everybody.
I never know what the topic is
going to be when I walk in this
place, man, I never know.
Speaker 1: Even when I walk in
this place.
Speaker 2: Man I never know,
Even when I ask her he asks and
I say nope, I'm just open to
whatever and whatever comes up.
So I do no prep work.
Speaker 3: None.
Speaker 2: I just go to that
place and I just let the
information come in.
Do, do, do, do, do, do do.
Speaker 1: Is that what it
sounds like in your head
Sometimes?
Speaker 2: Sometimes, yeah,
sometimes.
Speaker 1: So in drama class did
they teach you how to write
screenplays.
No, no, that would be
literature, wouldn't it?
I guess, I'm not real sure,
maybe it's advanced drama, maybe
Not high school drama, maybe.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a college
level, maybe it's advanced drama
, maybe Not high school drama.
Speaker 1: Maybe, maybe it's a
college level.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a college
level thing.
I didn't take it in college.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, that
actually plays right into my
point.
Our life is a great big
screenplay that we write.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: And it's written by
us, but we're never instructed
on how to.
No Well so we're never
instructed on how to no and Well
, so we kind of are.
Okay.
Speaker 2: Whether we choose to
listen or not is another story.
Speaker 1: Okay, and so life is
really full of written things
that we have put into our
reality.
Speaker 2: Well, you know me, I
kind of am a literal, so they're
not really written yeah.
As you would say, written
anywhere on like the stone,
things that Moses had.
On the stone tablet where you
hammer and chisel it, or the
emerald tablet or on the wall,
or the emerald tablet or on the
wall, you know, I guess part of
the information may be written
on the walls.
If we could truly tap into the
place and the information to be
able to decipher.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be
kind of cool.
Speaker 2: It is cool.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what
?
We can go see some of it in
person.
We're going to see the Mayan
ruins in March.
Yeah, that's going to be fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it will
be, but anyway.
So life is a hologram, life is
very much a virtual reality.
I will agree with you.
Speaker 1: That we create.
That we create Because you know
I I sometimes wonder why am I
writing my play this way?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 2: I wonder that as well
.
Speaker 1: You wonder why I
write my play that way.
Speaker 2: I do wonder that.
Okay, but I also wonder why I
am writing my play this way, why
I am writing my play this way.
And I wonder sometimes, when
peculiar things come across my
path, I'm like, okay, why did I
put that in there?
And what does that mean and
what does that represent, what
does that symbolize?
So yeah, it happens with me as
well.
Speaker 1: You know, because
this morning I was kind of
checking in with this book
subject in my head, and part of
that is that we are taught that
our well, I guess the best way
to put it.
Our script is already
predetermined Somewhat.
Speaker 2: Somewhat, when we're
born and young, and then, as we
were given, well, it's
predetermined prior to you being
born.
Speaker 1: Contractually.
Speaker 2: Not really
contractually, because you wrote
the contract on what you wanted
to explore.
Yeah, so it's not really like a
contract that you're held to
and that you can't change it.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I sound like your cat
saying mama at the door you
hear that.
Speaker 2: She definitely wants
in, but she can't have in.
Man, she's like a tornado in
here.
Speaker 1: She is I agree.
Speaker 2: She wants to sit on
the buttons.
She wants to get all up in the
space.
Speaker 1: Well, she recorded
herself for like seven hours.
Speaker 2: Did you ever listen
to that to see what it was?
Speaker 1: No, I did listen to
some of it, but it was just like
silence.
There was no.
Evp on it or anything, every
now and then you could hear the
ceiling fan in the living room
go tick, tick, tick.
That was it.
Speaker 2: We didn't catch any
EVPs or anything.
Nothing that I heard, no,
nothing that I heard.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't even get
anything on the resonance meter
.
Wow, it was like big quiet.
Speaker 2: No wonder she comes
in here to nap.
Yeah, it's quiet, it's probably
because of all the stones.
Speaker 1: So the topic of today
is you know, life is a hologram
or a screenplay, whatever you
want to look at it.
And what I want to touch on is
how do we manipulate our daily
screenplay?
Speaker 2: Well, I guess I would
need more information on what
exactly you're asking.
Okay, Like for example cause
you do manipulate it.
Speaker 1: Yes, um, like, for
example, you get up, you go to
work.
I'm just throwing this out
there you have a bad day at work
.
Yeah, why did?
We put that in our daily
screenplay.
Why can't we go to work and
have a positive day every single
day?
Well, you that in our daily
screenplay.
Why can't we go to work and
have a positive day every single
day?
Well, you can that's, that's
what I'm saying.
But what?
But why are we not always doing
that?
Speaker 2: because you've made a
choice to believe that having
that kind of day is going to
further your learning and your
advancement somehow some way,
and so paying attention to each
kind of like scenario, each
component of the day, and
checking in with that, gives
opportunity for you to clean it
up and look at it differently,
so that you can have a good day
every day.
Speaker 1: Okay.
So if somebody came to you with
life as a hologram, what would
you say to them?
Speaker 2: I'd say right on man.
Speaker 1: Okay, I guess what
I'm trying to get out of you is
to kind of help describe to
people what we always say we
create our own reality.
You know, we learn to live
within the now.
What we put out, we get back.
What we think about, we bring
about.
You know, there's all these
phrases that go into daily life
and things within the world by
which we live, in that, but
there's no descript way of
creating that.
All it is is you're supposed to
just like it, and so I guess
what I'm trying to do is
distinguish the difference
between a religion and the
spiritual life and within,
within the play, within our own
reality.
Because in the Bible, if you're
talking about religion, it says
you trust by faith, not by
sight.
And so if you, if you have
faith, then you can believe that
there's a heaven and you're
going to go through the pearly
gates one day and you're going
to get your wings and become an
angel and everything's going to
be happy and copacetic.
Okay, and I know in the
spiritual world we're more
matter of fact people some, some
are, but there's, there is no
difference there's no difference
between being spiritual and
being religious there's there's
no difference.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me say it
this way there is a difference,
and the only difference is the
process by which you practice
the beliefs around that word or
those words.
Speaker 3: That's the only
difference.
Speaker 2: Religion believes in
a higher power.
Mm-hmm type of meditative
channeling in some religions,
like you know, the Holy Ghost
coming in and doing all of that
and accepting God into your
heart, and all that.
Speaker 1: And doing handsprings
and all that.
Speaker 2: Right, and in
spirituality we meditate to get
to that same place.
Okay, it's just connecting to,
and in spirituality we call it
our heart self, because God has
so much negative stigma In
religion.
They call it God is believing
in a concept that is outside of
our physical thinking mind.
So there's not a lot of
difference, except for the human
language words and the
definitions of those words that
are put to it.
That's really the only
difference.
Okay, that's really the only
difference, and the difference
of how each individual goes
about their daily practice of
connecting to that high
vibrational frequency to feel
better about their reality.
Speaker 1: Okay, so in life is a
hologram, we create our own
reality.
And if, what is the difference?
I mean, nowhere in the bible
did I hear anything ever talked
about vibration oh, are you sure
?
Speaker 2: yes, if you read
between the lines not really
nothing I can remember well I
remember you know there's things
about raising your I'm very
limited on my Bible knowledge
but, for example, having the
faith of a mustard seed.
Okay.
That's teaching us to believe
in something that we can't see
yet.
Okay, and trusting that if we
ask, we shall receive.
Okay, that we just have to be
open to receive.
That's a frequency.
Speaker 1: So, in comparison,
you're saying when people pray
to God that I receive healing,
it's the same thing as spiritual
people setting intentions,
exactly Okay.
Speaker 2: They're just using
different words.
They're asking for their higher
aspect, of whatever they view
it to be, to remind them or to
show them how to bring about
healing or to give them healing.
Okay.
When we do it, we're asking for
the same thing just in different
words okay show me how to heal
my body or bring me your healing
touch, or whatever the reality
of it is is that nobody else is.
So we'll take the topic of
healing.
If you come to me, for example,
and you come to me, for example
, and you want to have help with
my energy hands to get rid of
some sort of pain area, I am not
doing that.
What I am doing is I am tapping
into your energy frequency.
I am tapping into the higher
realm of knowledge.
I'm finding out what your
frequency is from the natural,
healthy template I am being the
conduit of.
I think.
Hold on, let me say that.
Right, I'm being the conduit.
Okay, I put the enunciation on
the wrong end of the word.
Speaker 1: Can do it.
Speaker 2: The can do it.
Yeah.
I'm being the can do it of the
energy frequency to remind you,
on an energy level not
necessarily on a conscious level
, because this can happen for
people who are not even awakened
and they think that the healer
is the one doing the healing All
that's happening is I'm
reminding your cellular
structure, your subconscious
structure, of what that healing
base, natural state of health is
the frequency.
Okay.
So that you can tap into that
and run that frequency for
yourself if you choose to.
Okay, and that is with any
topic, not just healing, so we
can take it and go in the
direction of money.
Okay.
If you're having a what you view
as a challenging moment with
money in your life and you seek
out um guidance from an, a
resource whether it be a human,
a book on how to better get your
finances in order, or whatever,
it doesn't matter You're
reaching out to that resource
that has the vibrational
frequency that will encode or
recode or recalibrate your
frequency to align with that.
What you're asking for that is,
being guided by your higher
self.
Okay.
Your God, your the, the, the
energy that is bigger than us
because it knows, it knows what
frequency you need to match up
with in order to release beliefs
, patterns, programs, habits,
etc.
So that you can have a clearer
perspective on the topic of and
we'll say money, because that's
what we started with kind of and
then you take that frequency
and you run that frequency
within your reality.
Okay.
And then when you start to do
that on a regular basis by
continuing to read the next
chapter of the book or
continuing to watch the videos
on, say, youtube about the topic
, say money, money, fix your
money life in 30 days, so every
day you're getting another note,
so to speak, of the frequency
of the money concept on an
energetically frequency level
that you don't even have to know
that you're getting or realize
that you're getting.
That you're getting because
your higher self has aligned you
with that video, because it
knows that that's the frequency
you need to get you to a place
of being able to let go of maybe
some patterns, programs,
beliefs, whatever baggage that
will give you a different
perspective about that topic, so
that you can let the frequency
raise on that topic within you,
back to the natural state of
being okay remember we talked
about the bobber concept in the
water.
You put a bobber on your fishing
pole, it naturally wants to
float and bob and then, when it
has the weight on it, it goes
under the water until the weight
is released, the luggage, the
heavy burden, the whatever,
because your natural state of
being is that high frequency
place of having life.
Look like you're in heaven,
whatever that looks like to you.
That's your natural state of
being.
It's all of the garbage that we
pile on, that we tote around,
that changes the perspective.
It then changes the energy flow
that you put out and so then
energies match, so you'll
attract whatever frequency
you're putting out on every
individual topic.
Each topic has its own
frequency and so if you're
having kind of a crappy
experience with, say, money, if
you don't change some of that up
to raise your frequency so that
you can see it a little
differently or experience it
differently, then you'll just
keep getting the matching
frequency of what you've been
living thus far.
And I think that's the whole
thing of what I try to teach is
to teach people how to find
those frequencies and little
techniques along the way that
are teaching them how to work
with their energy, work with
their frequency.
Because the way that this whole
universal mechanism works is is
that the minute you daydream
about something that you want
and you want it to look a
certain way, that reality is
automatically created in a in a
desirable way that you cannot
even conceptualize in your human
meat suit.
You just don't have the ability
to, to conceptualize the
magnitude of what spirit has the
ability to put together for you
, that reality pops into
existence okay it's not your job
to try and manifest that
reality.
It's higher self's job.
To as easy as snapping your
fingers, that reality is created
.
It's just waiting for you to
line up with the frequency of
that reality and move into that
and experience it Okay.
And move into that and
experience it.
Okay, so every single thing
that you've ever, ever, ever
thought about, from the moment
that you come into your human
meat suit, even before all of
the planning that you do on, I
want, like on the little quest
goggles that we have where you
can pick this game or you can
pick that game or this reality
or whatever.
It's like that, and so, whatever
you choose to experience now,
you align with the frequency and
when you match up with that,
then you ride along on that
reality, experiencing that the
thing that has happened in our
culture is that we are not doing
it intentionally, we're doing
it unconsciously, kind of like
by default.
We're not taking control of the
ability to control that, and
that's what I'm trying to teach.
Okay, and control that if we
give it some practice and give
it some thought and instead of
just mindlessly, robotically
going through your day just
letting things happen with the
mindset that, okay, there's
nothing I can do about this, I
have no control, because, if you
think about it, you're so
powerful and you have so much
power that you have the ability
to create a virtual reality that
makes it feel like you have no
control.
Okay, you want more.
Speaker 1: No, well, this is
what I'm trying to be.
Well, I'm going to be devil's
advocate here for a minute.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Bring it on, buddy.
If we have a contractual,
predetermined life experiences
that we have decided to do prior
to coming into this life, into
this meat suit, how can we
change that reality If it's
already there, it's already
determined?
How do we manipulate that and
get out of whack with it If it's
already contractually there?
Speaker 2: Because you have the
ability to change your path.
It's called free will.
Okay.
Before you come into the meat
suit, you set up your script,
and these are things that I want
to experience for my
advancement, advancement, okay,
and you guys, you, you and you
and I'm pointing to my spiritual
people- in my spiritual um,
character.
Okay, you are going to be the
one that keeps me on track with
this until I give you the code
word of was Wasabi.
Not right.
Whatever that is, popcorn,
wasabi.
I'm going to give you the code
word of I am fed up with this
shit.
I will catch this on the next
life, I'm done with this.
I'm moving on and like, there's
this conversation that happens
in the spiritual form that says
I really want to try to
accomplish this, but if it gets
to a point where I just am done
with it, I will give you the
signal and I will.
If I decide that I am going to
change and go a different route,
I'll give you the signal, man.
Yeah.
And then I'm'm gonna change it
and completely change gears, and
so an interesting rabbit hole
concept is that sometimes the
near death experiences that
people have sometimes that's
what those are for okay is well
it's, it's.
Okay, going to revamp my whole
life and my whole mission, if
you will.
And so they'll have a near death
which lets them kind of check
out, or they'll have some
epiphanal dream that lets them
go back spiritually, review
everything, make sure that
that's what they want to do, and
then you'll hear how, after
they had their near death
experience, they come out and
they're a completely different
person.
Their whole life changes
dramatically, like everything is
just almost wiped clean.
They become a whole new person.
So sometimes that's what the
near-death experiences are for,
is that they've come to a
checkpoint where they say, okay,
here's my code word, this is
happening, I'm revamping the
whole thing.
Sometimes it's just a dream, so
you do still have choices, even
if you and when you use the word
contractual obligation, it's
not like that You're not held to
some contract that you signed
with the devil in blood and that
you will do this, and you don't
get any options of changing
that okay it just is that,
before you are going to change
it, you're taken in to a
spiritual state of being and
there's a conversation that's
had, and maybe even a mini life
review of okay, are you sure
this is what you want?
I know it feels very hard
humanly, but here, look at this
simultaneously, have a big look
at it all the way around and
make sure that this is this is
really what you want, because
you've set that up.
Okay.
And so then you get kind of
like a big glimpse of everything
, maybe, like I said, in a dream
or near death, and you get to
kind of make the ultimate
decision.
Speaker 1: So the, the what is
referred to in the spiritual
world as a contractual abual
obligations is really not an
entire life plan.
It's just the plan that you
signed up to do this and I want
to do this sometime in my life,
and maybe I want to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you think
about it, they're kind of like
different themes.
Speaker 1: So getting from point
A to point B, you're writing
your own script.
The reason why I'm asking this
is because the conversation we
had with the waitress yesterday
and she said it made me realize
my reality was created because
she listened to our podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh, waitress, Okay
yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And she said, it made
me realize that my reality I'm
creating is not the reality I
really want.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: And I always thought
that was predetermined, that's
what she said.
Predetermined, that's what she
said.
Oh, and so I was.
It was it kind of sparked the
thought process of making
because I've been hearing it all
of my spiritual life of of,
yeah, you know, you have, you
have a contractual obligations,
and sometimes if you can't get
over something, it's not nothing
to do with beliefs, it's
sometimes it's just an
obligation that you have to
experience, that you signed up
for and that is I mean it's very
majorly taught in this world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right,
it is, it is and it and it can
feel that way.
It can feel like that it is a
no outs obligation and
especially if you've got it
defined as this is a contract
that I signed man in blood and I
can't get out of it, so I just
have to hold on for the ride.
It can feel that way, but also
know that when you come to a
place where it's just not your
thing, you still have the
ability to change it Right.
It just is a little bit longer
process to change it Right it
just is a little bit longer
process to change it.
Okay, it can't just be a oh, I
don't really like this anymore,
so I'm going to change it,
change the channel, kind of
thing.
If you decided, prior to coming
into your meat suit, that this
is something I really really
want to accomplish, that this is
something I really really want
to accomplish, and, hey, mike,
as my spiritual buddy and my
spiritual group, your job is to
keep reminding me that I really,
really, really, really wanted
to try and accomplish this part
of the mission.
And so when I am feeling like
so, when I am feeling like, man,
I'm done with this crap, bleep,
then it's your job to bring me
back around and give me that
insight of reprieve that, okay,
it's not as bad as it feels I
really do.
And it may come through a dream
.
You may read something in a book
, you may.
There'll be something that
comes along when you, when
you're, when you're at that
point, that will bring some sort
of relief, yeah, for a moment,
and it'll let you breathe for a
second.
You may forget about it.
You may find some sort of
distraction that takes your mind
off of it for a day, a month, a
year, to give yourself a break
humanly, and then you'll come
back around to it because you've
kind of taken a vacation from
it and you're ready to go again
and try it again.
Speaker 1: And so the reason why
that all this comes to the head
is because of what she said
yesterday and it really got me
to thinking of you know we?
Because here's the truth.
Truth is, I know this.
I know that we create our own
reality based off of our beliefs
, patterns and programs and
human wantings to experience
things.
That creates a educational
experience that goes into the
akashic records.
I understand that right, and I
also understand that there are
stuff that we are predetermined
to do here we predetermined them
.
That's correct, not anybody else
I agree, I totally agree, and
our higher self's job is to help
us get from point A to point B,
not always tell us what to do
to get to point A to point B, or
I guess what should I say?
It's always telling us what to
do.
We just, humanly, don't listen.
But what I mean is, uh, the
human self, or the higher self
is going to say okay, you're
having a human experience,
here's what you're going to
create.
Now you're going to I mean,
you're going to have, based off
your beliefs, this is what's
going to happen and this is
going to be the result, and move
on and so on and so forth.
And so when she said that
yesterday, it made me stop and
say, okay, yeah, I get it,
because in the spiritual world,
the teaching is very, very much
cloudy at best, when I mean to
when it comes to clear and
defined situations that people
can really truly understand, is
is the stuff that the spiritual
world really needs to continue
the awakening.
Because she has been practicing
.
I mean, like she told us last
time, she meditates, she works
out, she eats healthy, she tries
to do everything that the
atypical, metaphysical,
spiritual person does.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But she didn't
understand why her reality
wasn't the way she wanted to,
because she was doing these
things and because that it's
really kind of a cloudy teaching
, and that's why I was trying to
get to that, because life is a
hologram, life is a script that
we write, and the reason that
happened is because we were not
given the way that the mechanism
works, because we weren't there
yet as a collective.
Speaker 2: Individuals have
gotten the download and the
information that are perceived
to be weird, such as myself.
We've.
We've had the information for
years, but we are not.
We hadn't shared because it
wasn't time, because if you give
somebody that kind of
information and they're not
ready for it, it's not going to
hit right anyways.
Okay, and everybody is not at
the same level of reception.
We're not all there yet because
some of us are not necessarily
finished experiencing that level
frequency for the whole
Collective, for the whole.
Speaker 1: Collective.
Speaker 2: Well, for the whole
organic, visceral experience of
whatever we're going, through
Okay.
And so it's not time.
It's not time for that
information to come about.
So it's not like the
information is confused or not
out there.
It's that people are perceiving
it in a manner that's not
always beneficial, and so it is
time, collectively, for
clarification.
That's why there's people such
as myself now opening up and
trying to have those
conversations right, because the
the majority of people now are
ready to really look at the
rabbit hole concepts of how
everything really works.
They weren't ready before and
they couldn't conceptualize the
information and when we tried to
share, we were looked at as
though we needed to go in a
crazy house and be on lots of
medication and they, they
couldn't it.
It created when we did try to
share.
It was creating in people an
overwhelming traumatic, almost
like existential crisis, and
that's not what we wanted when
we did a test run, when we did
kind of like a beta test.
It was causing people to feel
like they were lied to their
whole life about religion.
Speaker 1: And so the frequency.
They lost their solid purpose
as well.
Right.
Speaker 2: It caused people to
kind of like smoke come out of
their ears and blitz out for a
minute.
Speaker 1: Because this whole
life they've been going to
confession and thinking that
everybody's going to heaven as
long as you confess your sins.
I mean there's all sorts of
different things that's been
going on over the years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and those of us
that were trying to share a
different way were satanic and
you know, a witch.
We were a witch or whatever,
whatever those negative names
are.
We got categorized and box
compartmentalized into oh,
you're going to hell and I'm
going to pray for you every
single day because I don't even
know you need medication.
And that just told us that
we're going to keep doing our
process.
We're going to keep receiving
the information.
It's just not time to fully
come out with the whole big
steps of the mechanism, and
that's what I am here to do.
That's what I want to do.
Is the collective frequency has
raised enough now to where
people can start hearing the
information when it's given to
them?
Not everybody by any means, and
so that's why there's some
confusion, that's why there's
some misunderstanding, because
when, at the time when we first
begin to give it, you know like
this stuff has been around
forever 50s, 60s, 70s, I mean I
feel like it really kind of
started.
We really kind of tested the
waters in the 60s and 70s and
they all got looked at like they
were.
You know, the acid doers and
the drugs are making you talk
about some weird get off those
mushrooms, like that's what they
blamed it on?
Yeah, because people could not
conceptualize a multiverse, for
god's sakes, they could not.
They could not conceptualize
the, the, the, the parallel
realities, for example.
But what happened is us
metaphysicians put in
scientists' lap concepts that
were unbelievable enough to
spark their mind of hmm, what if
so?
Let me explore that a little
deeper.
Yeah.
And what they began to be shown
on their spiritual journey and
at their level once they opened
up just a crack to be able to
have that thought of hmm, it
only takes one.
Is there possibly any evidence
I can find that proves or
disproves this?
Even scientists, they are
taught to look at both sides of
the coin.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: If it's this way,
possibly then, can it be this
way possibly?
Speaker 1: That's how science
works.
Well, that's why placebos I
mean placebos, that's what
they're for.
Speaker 2: And so then, what
happened is somebody grabbed a
hold of the quantum theory and
started thought, and that what
that did was it created a uh
portal, so to speak, of openness
to receive additional
information.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what
happened no, there's many things
that's happened over the years.
That um shows that there are
alternate realities, because the
metaphysicians have pushed that
out there, and what I mean by
that is we can go way back.
This Nikolai Tesla, in the
knowledge that he has on things,
hitler during the Cold War, was
trying to create a time machine
that he reverse engineered from
some UFO that crashed over
there.
Speaker 2: Right, but at that
time they weren't ready to hear
that they couldn't I understand.
Speaker 1: And then the same
thing that's happened is the
people with all the UFO
documents that were released and
the people that used to work
for the government are now
coming out.
Yeah, and like I heard a guy
say the other day that he worked
for the government and they
were actually in the process of
proving that how these lights
like the ones over in new jersey
currently all right, they keep
appearing, or actually
dimensional, jumping, time
traveling things of course and
or beings or whatever, and the
thought process behind is is now
that we have created our
reality.
We have changed our reality so
much over the years, like one
example I just thought of I mean
to go was I was taught when in
school that a black hole was an
absence of all matter, and now
they're saying it's the presence
of black matter, right, and so
that's just the things that's
evoluting, right and things that
are coming through, and the
reality is that we do create
individually.
Let's talk about, let's bring
it back down to us, instead of
talking about the collectedness
okay our reality.
We create what we think about.
We bring about the energy we
put out.
We get back every minute and
when you, when you walk out in
your day and you create an
environment that where you are
bringing negativity.
Say, for example, you get up in
the morning and your your hair
don't curl right or your hair
looks stupid and it puts you in
a bad mood, and then you walk
out and then everybody you're
going to see is going to have a
bad hairdo and they're going to
bring you all their negative
energy right back does that
happen to you I?
Know I was just coming up with
something crazy.
I was just curious.
My hair you can't mess up my
hair, it falls right in place
every time.
But just the point behind it is
is giving people the
understanding that, yes, your
reality you create, but there
are things that you are going to
experience because you did
decide to do that prior to
coming here and going from point
A to point B, and how you
experience that is how you have
advanced in your beliefs behind
it.
Speaker 2: How you perceive that
is up to you as well.
Speaker 1: Right, crappy
definition that feels like shit,
or whether you give it a better
definition is also up to you,
which then changes your
perception of the thing yeah,
you know, I had a conversation
the other day and I made an
example to somebody like well,
the buddhist priest, they don't,
you know they, they have no
issues in their life oh,
contrary, contrary, and you know
what the response was?
Well, they don't do anything
but meditate for 18 hours a day.
Oh, so I was like wow, is that
really your perception of those
things, right?
Speaker 2: Go talk to one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because I guarantee
you them wanting and having to
go through the, for example,
having to train themselves and
get rid of beliefs of wanting or
desiring that in and of itself
was a trial.
Oh yeah, of getting to that
place where they don't have
wants or desires to be one of
those top yogi, guru, buddhists.
That it, that has transcended
all of that.
Yeah, it was a process, I
assure you.
Speaker 1: Oh, no I can go and
talk to one of them.
Speaker 2: I'm just talking to
the general you know they're.
Speaker 1: They're creating
their reality.
This like we are.
It is created differently, and
that's yeah.
Speaker 2: Their reality is like
we are it is created
differently and that's just all
it is, and they went through
beliefs that popped up around it
.
Speaker 1: They eat once a day,
they meditate all day.
They get plenty of sleep.
Speaker 2: They didn't just wake
up, and they were born that way
, right.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: They had to do some
training to get to that place,
and I think that's kind of what
I'm trying to teach.
But on a more literal level,
not everybody is here to go be a
Buddhist.
Not everybody is here to go be
Buddha.
That's not your theme, that's
not what you signed up for.
That's not your theme, that you
came here to experience.
Speaker 1: And if you want to do
that, just sign up for the next
one.
Speaker 2: Or you can change and
go that route now, but having
the definition that they have no
trials or tribulations that
they go through or went through
to get to where they are is an
inaccurate definition or
description of their life, which
is back to that concept that I
mentioned once before in a
podcast, where if you're
creating the story and you
haven't gone and talked to that
individual to get the real story
, then you basically have just
created a lie that you're
telling yourself and so then
you're living your life based on
untruth.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree.
Speaker 2: That's not beneficial
.
Speaker 1: Totally agree with
you.
Speaker 2: And then if you take
one step further and you compare
yourself to that, because
you're trying to accomplish that
, you're setting yourself up for
not a win-win situation Because
you can't accomplish something.
Speaker 1: That is a lie, I
agree, I agree with you
accomplish something that is a
lie, I agree.
I agree with you.
And so here we are, in the
middle of our life, and what a
change that we have seen
throughout our years in the
spiritual world of how the
collective has changed and
everybody is Really starting to
fall in line.
So to speak Fall in line.
I don't even know if that's the
proper wording.
Open up and receive, receive
information and be more 360
degree minded instead of tunnel
vision that we were taught
previously.
Speaker 2: Or just be more open
and receptive to those things
that we were taught that don't
exist.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Like fairies and
unicorns and aliens.
Speaker 1: I like fairies and
unicorns and aliens.
Speaker 2: I like fairies and
unicorns, and Sasquatch the
Bigfoot, the Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: The Bigfoot, and so
to clarify to the people that
listen to these podcasts.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is keep doing what
you're doing, set your positive
intentions and work through your
beliefs when something negative
that doesn't feel good pops up.
Speaker 2: I think the other
thing to remember is that each
individual person is is in fact
that you're an individual.
You have your own process that
works for you.
When it doesn't work, any
longer than tweak it.
Yes.
There is no set way to do this
Life is a hologram and there is
no set thing that works for
everybody.
You got to figure out what your
process looks like and what
works for you, based on your
template of beliefs, patterns
and programs, and it's going to
look different than the person
sitting next to you.
So, trying to do something the
way somebody else is doing it is
not always going to work for
you and it's not always going to
feel right.
You've got to allow yourself to
make it look like it needs to
look for you.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I'll use me for an
example.
You know, I spent many years
trying to figure out what church
I belong in, because church
just never felt like my, my gig
yeah and I went to all the
different kinds trying to figure
out because my um, so my one
grandma didn't go to church and
my father didn't go to church.
My other grandmother, who
shared kind of raising us we
went back and forth was Assembly
of God.
Okay.
And then my mother was
Episcopalian but she had gone to
many different kinds of
churches to get to that place.
So I didn't really know, I
didn't really know what I was in
my younger days and in my early
20s, while I was exploring all
this, and so I was like, well,
you know what, I'm an adult now,
going to the Assembly of God
just never really felt like I
didn't understand them.
I didn't understand it.
It didn't.
Nothing resonated with me,
right.
And then we were talking about
this, the other day I went this
was after I had the kids I went
to an Easter event at the
Episcopalian church with my mom
for the first time and took the
children.
And if you know anything about
that religion, their Easter
service is many hours long and
you kneel and then stand up, and
kneel and stand up, and I
didn't know that when I took the
children, and so I only brought
a certain amount of Cheerios
and a certain amount of sippy
cups because, uh, you know, like
the kids were six and three,
something like that, and yeah,
man, it was a long day.
Speaker 1: I can imagine it was
a long day.
Speaker 2: At first it was okay
because the standing up and the
kneeling down kept them
entertained.
They thought it was fun.
But after a while, you know,
and I'm talking like three or
four hours- in my knees, hurt
Mom no, they started getting
fussy and nappy and wanting to
go to sleep.
And we were out of Cheerios man
, we were out of juice boxes.
Speaker 1: So you know the.
Speaker 2: I went around testing
out different religions for
myself yeah I went to the
methodist church.
I went to all these different
churches trying to see what felt
right, where, where it felt
like I was supposed to be even
started studying, like wicca and
um, what pica and I don't know
whatever those other ones are
called.
Yeah, I mean, I started just
kind of reading books on all of
it.
Speaker 1: Did you sacrifice
chickens?
Speaker 2: No.
I didn't do that.
I might have if it resonated.
Maybe, who knows.
But what I found is that there
were parts of Wicca, for example
, very natural, nature-oriented
parts of that that resonated
with me, Hindu.
There were parts of that that
resonated with me.
And so what I did is I kind of
just, for a while there I did my
own practice at home, taking
components from this one and
parts and pieces from this one,
and I just kind of did my own
thing.
And so my, my, my space, my
religious space, I suppose I
made like an altar like they do
in Wicca.
That was kind of my church
space in the corner of my room.
But then on that Buddha, you
know, some of those symbolic
statues and stuff resonated with
me Crystals and so I just kind
of created my own like little
religious space there for a
while, because that felt right.
Yeah.
In my little corner and I would
go and I would sit in that space
and just I don't know wait for
whatever to happen.
Thoughts would sometimes come
in, inspirations.
Sometimes I just sat there
because it felt good, and that
was my practice for a good many
years, because I was kind of
just kind of exploring what my
pattern was.
So to bring it back around,
what I'm saying is, the first
thing that has to happen is is
that everybody has to stop
thinking that there is a one
size fits all format.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: When it comes to
talking about religion or
spirituality, it's a
self-devised daily ritual
routine that is made a la carte,
unique to that person, and
that's why all the religions
need to just be given open forum
to exist because that person
that goes to church every single
time the doors are open and
reads the Bible and carries the
Bible around, that's what works
for them.
Right, we're all, when you
break it down to the core, we're
all honoring a concept that's
outside of us and we're all
trying to get through this.
Speaker 1: We're all channeling
information.
Speaker 2: We just use different
words to talk about it no, I
think it's all the same.
I totally agree with you too
and judging other people because
they do it a certain way.
It's not helpful it.
Speaker 1: It's not beneficial.
Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2: Because all it does
is cause more strife or going
into it thinking that you have
to do it in the ABC format or it
doesn't work and you can't
transcend or enlighten or thin
your veil.
Those all just will create
limitations.
Speaker 1: There are a couple of
things that I think that
everybody has in common in their
religious thoughts and their
life thoughts is a everybody has
that voice in their head which
is your, typically your higher
self.
Just some people don't hear it
clearly and some people don't
listen to it Right.
And I think then the other part
of it is is everybody has a
conscious mind to view 360 in
their life, and I think if
everybody were to listen to that
voice and have that constant
360, look and remember.
I think the third thing in that
is is remember that everybody
is in this life trying to do the
same thing you're doing.
They just may be at a different
level, different place,
different.
You know whatever you're doing.
They just may be at a different
level, different place,
different.
You know whatever.
And having that understanding
towards everybody will create a
more calm environment and less
judgment towards everybody yeah,
and I mean there are.
Speaker 2: There are finite
steps that go below that,
obviously yeah you know, I agree
you first when you catch
yourself doing something, that's
that's the first step is you've
got to catch yourself doing it.
We've been programmed to kind of
just live robotically and live
almost like in an unconscious
state of just okay, I get up at
the same time every day, I drive
the same path, I go to the same
job, I come home, I fix supper,
I put the kids to bed, I try to
eke out 30 minutes of my time
so I can take a soaker bath
maybe, and I mean like it's the
same routine stuff.
But then you sit around and say
, well, why is my reality not
changing?
Well, it's because you're doing
the same old thing and not
stopping and catching yourself
doing those habits so that you
can look deeper in and look at
those beliefs.
And that's the information I
try to bring forward.
Is the is the finite steps of
how to go about it, and
awareness is is probably the
number one, is catching yourself
doing it so that you can then
change the habit.
Speaker 1: Yep Life is a
hologram.
It is, it truly is you can ride
it any way you want.
That hologram can be anything,
anytime, anywhere.
Speaker 2: Right, it truly,
truly is.
And if it's not going the way
you want it, it's because you're
not riding it that way for
several reasons Maybe you don't
believe you're worthy enough,
maybe you don't believe, maybe
you've told your story that the
other person doesn't want it and
that's the belief you're
hanging on to, which is just
that self-created story about
somebody else.
It's not.
That's not true.
Somebody else, it's not.
That's not true, maybe.
I mean, there's a multitude of
things and I would say in a
nutshell, that's what I do at
the merck center.
Yeah, is that I help people
break it down?
yeah, I agree and kind of
rummage through the chaos of of
the piles of muck.
Speaker 1: I agree, and that's
the thing about it all is being
that open and receptive to
getting that higher
self-information from anywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean
listen.
Sometimes it's not easy,
sometimes it is not easy.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it can be
confusing.
Sometimes the information is
right there and you just don't
understand it Sometimes it can
be.
Speaker 2: Yeah Well, sometimes
the information's right there
and you just don't understand it
.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it can be
yeah, yeah.
Well, I feel complete to you.
Speaker 2: I think so yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, life is a
hologram Life is a screen.
Speaker 2: Life is a hologram.
Speaker 1: Write it however you
want.
Speaker 2: Wow, that was bad,
Really bad.
It really was.
It was pretty bad.
Maybe we bad, it really was, it
was pretty bad maybe.
Speaker 1: maybe we should cut
that out you know, maybe, maybe
it'll get cut out, maybe it'll
be left in, who knows?
But you know where they can see
it or hear it where on the
social media at the merc centers
do tell t-h-e-m-e-r-c,
c-e-n-t-e-r-s, and that's also
our website, just add the dot
org on to the end of it, orgon.
Speaker 2: Orgorg.
Oh, it sounded like you said
Orgon.
Speaker 1: The MercCentersorg,
and so look it up on the website
.
Orgon is an alien species.
Orgon is also something you
play that makes notes.
Oh, it's an organ, never mind.
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