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Holographic Realities: Exploring Spirituality

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Ever wondered why acting classes are called "drama" and not something more straightforward like "acting"? Join us on a nostalgic trip down memory lane as we recall our school days, from aspiring to play leading roles to being cast as humble green beans. Through playful wordplay, we humorously dissect the differences between words like "clever" and "cleaver," leading into a philosophical journey that questions whether life itself is an unwritten screenplay or a virtual reality, much like a hologram waiting to be explored.

As the conversation unfolds, we venture into the intriguing realm of spirituality and religion, pondering how these paths allow us to create our own reality. Through shared anecdotes, we explore how maintaining a positive outlook can shape personal growth and how both spiritual practices and religious faith aim to connect us with higher energies. Whether through the power of prayer or tuning into one’s spiritual frequency, the shared goal is healing and personal transformation, aligning with the higher vibrational frequencies that enhance our life experiences.

The episode also explores the evolving concepts of personal energy frequencies and how they influence our reality. From financial challenges to spiritual awakenings, the discussion emphasizes the importance of consciously working with energy to shape our lives. We highlight how embracing individuality in spiritual journeys allows for personalized practices that resonate with each person's unique beliefs. By sharing personal stories and examining societal shifts towards openness, we celebrate the diversity of paths and the collective transformation towards acceptance and understanding in today's world.

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Speaker 1: Good morning everybody. Welcome back to the podcast. We are in studio today again. Speaker 2: Good morning. Speaker 1: We're trying to bless everybody with our awesome present. Speaker 2: Some might not think that's a blessing. Speaker 1: No, I mean presents like Christmas presents. Speaker 2: Oh, a little word play. Speaker 1: You like that? Yeah, that's clever. So every now and then I can be clever. Every now and then. Speaker 2: Every once and again. Speaker 1: Yeah, I try. Speaker 2: Clever. Speaker 3: Not to be confused with cleaver. Speaker 1: Cleaver Clever, don't they spell it the same. Speaker 2: I have no idea. Speaker 1: Maybe not. C-l-e-a-b-e -R. No, it's cleaver and it's clever. C-l-e-b-e-r Okay. Speaker 2: Vocabulary lesson Spelling bee lesson. We got it all here for you folks. Whatever your pleasure is, we've got it. We got it right here. Tune in, you never know. Speaker 1: Did you do drama in school, like acting and all that stuff? Speaker 2: So I was in drama class. Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I was the weird kid that never got picked oh, so you really got it, got the whole the prop yeah, I was behind the scenes crap, which never was pleasing because you know I wanted an actual role. Speaker 2: Yeah, even in like. I can remember in elementary school being at a school and I want it was about something to do with christmas, obviously, but for some reason it had onions and green beans. Instead of getting to be like the main character of, like mary or whatever, and I don't know how the green beans played into it, but I remember wanting to be like the main character of like Mary or whatever, and I don't know how the green beans played into it, but I remember wanting to be like one of the main characters. even if it was just like the donkey, I would have settled for the donkey. And for some reason I ended up only getting to be like a green bean. Speaker 1: You didn't go to your teacher and say look, I've been practicing my e-halls. Speaker 2: I did go to my teacher on a couple of occasions and I don't really even remember what I was told, but I can just remember being disappointed that I only got to be a green bean and not. Speaker 1: We did a 4-H play. Speaker 3: We did a 4-H play. Speaker 1: When I was in 4-H and it was a fundraiser play to raise money for seeds, I guess, because we planted this huge garden every year, the city actually gave it to us to plant and I was Zuko in the Greece play and I sucked. Speaker 2: I forgot my lines like 19 million times I have no doubt, and I can only imagine your ad-lipping and what that looked like. Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty crazy. I can only imagine I had everybody laughing, though. Speaker 2: I bet you did. Speaker 1: Do you ever wonder why they call it drama class? Speaker 2: I have never wondered that no. Speaker 1: I have. Speaker 2: And what did you come up with? Speaker 1: Well, you know, know, because they call acting, acting. They call movies, movies. But yet when you're growing up and like, they call the college where they teach, it act is the college of uh arts. It's not, it's not drama right but why do they call it drama? I've always wondered. When I call it like highway? Life is a highway because it changes all the time, right, because it's like you're acting into playing different parts and just like the highway, it's always changing. Food for thought not really no, not for me, didn't, didn't even tweak it a little bit, no. Speaker 2: No, it was more like crickets. But hey, you do, you boo. Speaker 1: Okay, that's not good , Anyway. So that brings me into the topic of the day. Speaker 2: Okay, let me remind everybody. I never know what the topic is going to be when I walk in this place, man, I never know. Speaker 1: Even when I walk in this place. Speaker 2: Man I never know, Even when I ask her he asks and I say nope, I'm just open to whatever and whatever comes up. So I do no prep work. Speaker 3: None. Speaker 2: I just go to that place and I just let the information come in. Do, do, do, do, do, do do. Speaker 1: Is that what it sounds like in your head Sometimes? Speaker 2: Sometimes, yeah, sometimes. Speaker 1: So in drama class did they teach you how to write screenplays. No, no, that would be literature, wouldn't it? I guess, I'm not real sure, maybe it's advanced drama, maybe Not high school drama, maybe. Speaker 2: Maybe it's a college level, maybe it's advanced drama , maybe Not high school drama. Speaker 1: Maybe, maybe it's a college level. Speaker 2: Maybe it's a college level thing. I didn't take it in college. Speaker 1: Well, you know, that actually plays right into my point. Our life is a great big screenplay that we write. Speaker 2: Of course. Speaker 1: And it's written by us, but we're never instructed on how to. No Well so we're never instructed on how to no and Well , so we kind of are. Okay. Speaker 2: Whether we choose to listen or not is another story. Speaker 1: Okay, and so life is really full of written things that we have put into our reality. Speaker 2: Well, you know me, I kind of am a literal, so they're not really written yeah. As you would say, written anywhere on like the stone, things that Moses had. On the stone tablet where you hammer and chisel it, or the emerald tablet or on the wall, or the emerald tablet or on the wall, you know, I guess part of the information may be written on the walls. If we could truly tap into the place and the information to be able to decipher. Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be kind of cool. Speaker 2: It is cool. Speaker 1: I mean, you know what ? We can go see some of it in person. We're going to see the Mayan ruins in March. Yeah, that's going to be fun. Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it will be, but anyway. So life is a hologram, life is very much a virtual reality. I will agree with you. Speaker 1: That we create. That we create Because you know I I sometimes wonder why am I writing my play this way? Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: And. Speaker 2: I wonder that as well . Speaker 1: You wonder why I write my play that way. Speaker 2: I do wonder that. Okay, but I also wonder why I am writing my play this way, why I am writing my play this way. And I wonder sometimes, when peculiar things come across my path, I'm like, okay, why did I put that in there? And what does that mean and what does that represent, what does that symbolize? So yeah, it happens with me as well. Speaker 1: You know, because this morning I was kind of checking in with this book subject in my head, and part of that is that we are taught that our well, I guess the best way to put it. Our script is already predetermined Somewhat. Speaker 2: Somewhat, when we're born and young, and then, as we were given, well, it's predetermined prior to you being born. Speaker 1: Contractually. Speaker 2: Not really contractually, because you wrote the contract on what you wanted to explore. Yeah, so it's not really like a contract that you're held to and that you can't change it. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Anyway, go ahead. Speaker 1: I sound like your cat saying mama at the door you hear that. Speaker 2: She definitely wants in, but she can't have in. Man, she's like a tornado in here. Speaker 1: She is I agree. Speaker 2: She wants to sit on the buttons. She wants to get all up in the space. Speaker 1: Well, she recorded herself for like seven hours. Speaker 2: Did you ever listen to that to see what it was? Speaker 1: No, I did listen to some of it, but it was just like silence. There was no. Evp on it or anything, every now and then you could hear the ceiling fan in the living room go tick, tick, tick. That was it. Speaker 2: We didn't catch any EVPs or anything. Nothing that I heard, no, nothing that I heard. Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't even get anything on the resonance meter . Wow, it was like big quiet. Speaker 2: No wonder she comes in here to nap. Yeah, it's quiet, it's probably because of all the stones. Speaker 1: So the topic of today is you know, life is a hologram or a screenplay, whatever you want to look at it. And what I want to touch on is how do we manipulate our daily screenplay? Speaker 2: Well, I guess I would need more information on what exactly you're asking. Okay, Like for example cause you do manipulate it. Speaker 1: Yes, um, like, for example, you get up, you go to work. I'm just throwing this out there you have a bad day at work . Yeah, why did? We put that in our daily screenplay. Why can't we go to work and have a positive day every single day? Well, you that in our daily screenplay. Why can't we go to work and have a positive day every single day? Well, you can that's, that's what I'm saying. But what? But why are we not always doing that? Speaker 2: because you've made a choice to believe that having that kind of day is going to further your learning and your advancement somehow some way, and so paying attention to each kind of like scenario, each component of the day, and checking in with that, gives opportunity for you to clean it up and look at it differently, so that you can have a good day every day. Speaker 1: Okay. So if somebody came to you with life as a hologram, what would you say to them? Speaker 2: I'd say right on man. Speaker 1: Okay, I guess what I'm trying to get out of you is to kind of help describe to people what we always say we create our own reality. You know, we learn to live within the now. What we put out, we get back. What we think about, we bring about. You know, there's all these phrases that go into daily life and things within the world by which we live, in that, but there's no descript way of creating that. All it is is you're supposed to just like it, and so I guess what I'm trying to do is distinguish the difference between a religion and the spiritual life and within, within the play, within our own reality. Because in the Bible, if you're talking about religion, it says you trust by faith, not by sight. And so if you, if you have faith, then you can believe that there's a heaven and you're going to go through the pearly gates one day and you're going to get your wings and become an angel and everything's going to be happy and copacetic. Okay, and I know in the spiritual world we're more matter of fact people some, some are, but there's, there is no difference there's no difference between being spiritual and being religious there's there's no difference. Speaker 2: Okay, let me say it this way there is a difference, and the only difference is the process by which you practice the beliefs around that word or those words. Speaker 3: That's the only difference. Speaker 2: Religion believes in a higher power. Mm-hmm type of meditative channeling in some religions, like you know, the Holy Ghost coming in and doing all of that and accepting God into your heart, and all that. Speaker 1: And doing handsprings and all that. Speaker 2: Right, and in spirituality we meditate to get to that same place. Okay, it's just connecting to, and in spirituality we call it our heart self, because God has so much negative stigma In religion. They call it God is believing in a concept that is outside of our physical thinking mind. So there's not a lot of difference, except for the human language words and the definitions of those words that are put to it. That's really the only difference. Okay, that's really the only difference, and the difference of how each individual goes about their daily practice of connecting to that high vibrational frequency to feel better about their reality. Speaker 1: Okay, so in life is a hologram, we create our own reality. And if, what is the difference? I mean, nowhere in the bible did I hear anything ever talked about vibration oh, are you sure ? Speaker 2: yes, if you read between the lines not really nothing I can remember well I remember you know there's things about raising your I'm very limited on my Bible knowledge but, for example, having the faith of a mustard seed. Okay. That's teaching us to believe in something that we can't see yet. Okay, and trusting that if we ask, we shall receive. Okay, that we just have to be open to receive. That's a frequency. Speaker 1: So, in comparison, you're saying when people pray to God that I receive healing, it's the same thing as spiritual people setting intentions, exactly Okay. Speaker 2: They're just using different words. They're asking for their higher aspect, of whatever they view it to be, to remind them or to show them how to bring about healing or to give them healing. Okay. When we do it, we're asking for the same thing just in different words okay show me how to heal my body or bring me your healing touch, or whatever the reality of it is is that nobody else is. So we'll take the topic of healing. If you come to me, for example, and you come to me, for example , and you want to have help with my energy hands to get rid of some sort of pain area, I am not doing that. What I am doing is I am tapping into your energy frequency. I am tapping into the higher realm of knowledge. I'm finding out what your frequency is from the natural, healthy template I am being the conduit of. I think. Hold on, let me say that. Right, I'm being the conduit. Okay, I put the enunciation on the wrong end of the word. Speaker 1: Can do it. Speaker 2: The can do it. Yeah. I'm being the can do it of the energy frequency to remind you, on an energy level not necessarily on a conscious level , because this can happen for people who are not even awakened and they think that the healer is the one doing the healing All that's happening is I'm reminding your cellular structure, your subconscious structure, of what that healing base, natural state of health is the frequency. Okay. So that you can tap into that and run that frequency for yourself if you choose to. Okay, and that is with any topic, not just healing, so we can take it and go in the direction of money. Okay. If you're having a what you view as a challenging moment with money in your life and you seek out um guidance from an, a resource whether it be a human, a book on how to better get your finances in order, or whatever, it doesn't matter You're reaching out to that resource that has the vibrational frequency that will encode or recode or recalibrate your frequency to align with that. What you're asking for that is, being guided by your higher self. Okay. Your God, your the, the, the energy that is bigger than us because it knows, it knows what frequency you need to match up with in order to release beliefs , patterns, programs, habits, etc. So that you can have a clearer perspective on the topic of and we'll say money, because that's what we started with kind of and then you take that frequency and you run that frequency within your reality. Okay. And then when you start to do that on a regular basis by continuing to read the next chapter of the book or continuing to watch the videos on, say, youtube about the topic , say money, money, fix your money life in 30 days, so every day you're getting another note, so to speak, of the frequency of the money concept on an energetically frequency level that you don't even have to know that you're getting or realize that you're getting. That you're getting because your higher self has aligned you with that video, because it knows that that's the frequency you need to get you to a place of being able to let go of maybe some patterns, programs, beliefs, whatever baggage that will give you a different perspective about that topic, so that you can let the frequency raise on that topic within you, back to the natural state of being okay remember we talked about the bobber concept in the water. You put a bobber on your fishing pole, it naturally wants to float and bob and then, when it has the weight on it, it goes under the water until the weight is released, the luggage, the heavy burden, the whatever, because your natural state of being is that high frequency place of having life. Look like you're in heaven, whatever that looks like to you. That's your natural state of being. It's all of the garbage that we pile on, that we tote around, that changes the perspective. It then changes the energy flow that you put out and so then energies match, so you'll attract whatever frequency you're putting out on every individual topic. Each topic has its own frequency and so if you're having kind of a crappy experience with, say, money, if you don't change some of that up to raise your frequency so that you can see it a little differently or experience it differently, then you'll just keep getting the matching frequency of what you've been living thus far. And I think that's the whole thing of what I try to teach is to teach people how to find those frequencies and little techniques along the way that are teaching them how to work with their energy, work with their frequency. Because the way that this whole universal mechanism works is is that the minute you daydream about something that you want and you want it to look a certain way, that reality is automatically created in a in a desirable way that you cannot even conceptualize in your human meat suit. You just don't have the ability to, to conceptualize the magnitude of what spirit has the ability to put together for you , that reality pops into existence okay it's not your job to try and manifest that reality. It's higher self's job. To as easy as snapping your fingers, that reality is created . It's just waiting for you to line up with the frequency of that reality and move into that and experience it Okay. And move into that and experience it. Okay, so every single thing that you've ever, ever, ever thought about, from the moment that you come into your human meat suit, even before all of the planning that you do on, I want, like on the little quest goggles that we have where you can pick this game or you can pick that game or this reality or whatever. It's like that, and so, whatever you choose to experience now, you align with the frequency and when you match up with that, then you ride along on that reality, experiencing that the thing that has happened in our culture is that we are not doing it intentionally, we're doing it unconsciously, kind of like by default. We're not taking control of the ability to control that, and that's what I'm trying to teach. Okay, and control that if we give it some practice and give it some thought and instead of just mindlessly, robotically going through your day just letting things happen with the mindset that, okay, there's nothing I can do about this, I have no control, because, if you think about it, you're so powerful and you have so much power that you have the ability to create a virtual reality that makes it feel like you have no control. Okay, you want more. Speaker 1: No, well, this is what I'm trying to be. Well, I'm going to be devil's advocate here for a minute. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: Bring it on, buddy. If we have a contractual, predetermined life experiences that we have decided to do prior to coming into this life, into this meat suit, how can we change that reality If it's already there, it's already determined? How do we manipulate that and get out of whack with it If it's already contractually there? Speaker 2: Because you have the ability to change your path. It's called free will. Okay. Before you come into the meat suit, you set up your script, and these are things that I want to experience for my advancement, advancement, okay, and you guys, you, you and you and I'm pointing to my spiritual people- in my spiritual um, character. Okay, you are going to be the one that keeps me on track with this until I give you the code word of was Wasabi. Not right. Whatever that is, popcorn, wasabi. I'm going to give you the code word of I am fed up with this shit. I will catch this on the next life, I'm done with this. I'm moving on and like, there's this conversation that happens in the spiritual form that says I really want to try to accomplish this, but if it gets to a point where I just am done with it, I will give you the signal and I will. If I decide that I am going to change and go a different route, I'll give you the signal, man. Yeah. And then I'm'm gonna change it and completely change gears, and so an interesting rabbit hole concept is that sometimes the near death experiences that people have sometimes that's what those are for okay is well it's, it's. Okay, going to revamp my whole life and my whole mission, if you will. And so they'll have a near death which lets them kind of check out, or they'll have some epiphanal dream that lets them go back spiritually, review everything, make sure that that's what they want to do, and then you'll hear how, after they had their near death experience, they come out and they're a completely different person. Their whole life changes dramatically, like everything is just almost wiped clean. They become a whole new person. So sometimes that's what the near-death experiences are for, is that they've come to a checkpoint where they say, okay, here's my code word, this is happening, I'm revamping the whole thing. Sometimes it's just a dream, so you do still have choices, even if you and when you use the word contractual obligation, it's not like that You're not held to some contract that you signed with the devil in blood and that you will do this, and you don't get any options of changing that okay it just is that, before you are going to change it, you're taken in to a spiritual state of being and there's a conversation that's had, and maybe even a mini life review of okay, are you sure this is what you want? I know it feels very hard humanly, but here, look at this simultaneously, have a big look at it all the way around and make sure that this is this is really what you want, because you've set that up. Okay. And so then you get kind of like a big glimpse of everything , maybe, like I said, in a dream or near death, and you get to kind of make the ultimate decision. Speaker 1: So the, the what is referred to in the spiritual world as a contractual abual obligations is really not an entire life plan. It's just the plan that you signed up to do this and I want to do this sometime in my life, and maybe I want to do that. Speaker 2: Yeah, if you think about it, they're kind of like different themes. Speaker 1: So getting from point A to point B, you're writing your own script. The reason why I'm asking this is because the conversation we had with the waitress yesterday and she said it made me realize my reality was created because she listened to our podcast. Speaker 2: Oh, waitress, Okay yeah yeah, yeah. Speaker 1: And she said, it made me realize that my reality I'm creating is not the reality I really want. Speaker 3: Right. Speaker 1: And I always thought that was predetermined, that's what she said. Predetermined, that's what she said. Oh, and so I was. It was it kind of sparked the thought process of making because I've been hearing it all of my spiritual life of of, yeah, you know, you have, you have a contractual obligations, and sometimes if you can't get over something, it's not nothing to do with beliefs, it's sometimes it's just an obligation that you have to experience, that you signed up for and that is I mean it's very majorly taught in this world. Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, it is, it is and it and it can feel that way. It can feel like that it is a no outs obligation and especially if you've got it defined as this is a contract that I signed man in blood and I can't get out of it, so I just have to hold on for the ride. It can feel that way, but also know that when you come to a place where it's just not your thing, you still have the ability to change it Right. It just is a little bit longer process to change it Right it just is a little bit longer process to change it. Okay, it can't just be a oh, I don't really like this anymore, so I'm going to change it, change the channel, kind of thing. If you decided, prior to coming into your meat suit, that this is something I really really want to accomplish, that this is something I really really want to accomplish, and, hey, mike, as my spiritual buddy and my spiritual group, your job is to keep reminding me that I really, really, really, really wanted to try and accomplish this part of the mission. And so when I am feeling like so, when I am feeling like, man, I'm done with this crap, bleep, then it's your job to bring me back around and give me that insight of reprieve that, okay, it's not as bad as it feels I really do. And it may come through a dream . You may read something in a book , you may. There'll be something that comes along when you, when you're, when you're at that point, that will bring some sort of relief, yeah, for a moment, and it'll let you breathe for a second. You may forget about it. You may find some sort of distraction that takes your mind off of it for a day, a month, a year, to give yourself a break humanly, and then you'll come back around to it because you've kind of taken a vacation from it and you're ready to go again and try it again. Speaker 1: And so the reason why that all this comes to the head is because of what she said yesterday and it really got me to thinking of you know we? Because here's the truth. Truth is, I know this. I know that we create our own reality based off of our beliefs , patterns and programs and human wantings to experience things. That creates a educational experience that goes into the akashic records. I understand that right, and I also understand that there are stuff that we are predetermined to do here we predetermined them . That's correct, not anybody else I agree, I totally agree, and our higher self's job is to help us get from point A to point B, not always tell us what to do to get to point A to point B, or I guess what should I say? It's always telling us what to do. We just, humanly, don't listen. But what I mean is, uh, the human self, or the higher self is going to say okay, you're having a human experience, here's what you're going to create. Now you're going to I mean, you're going to have, based off your beliefs, this is what's going to happen and this is going to be the result, and move on and so on and so forth. And so when she said that yesterday, it made me stop and say, okay, yeah, I get it, because in the spiritual world, the teaching is very, very much cloudy at best, when I mean to when it comes to clear and defined situations that people can really truly understand, is is the stuff that the spiritual world really needs to continue the awakening. Because she has been practicing . I mean, like she told us last time, she meditates, she works out, she eats healthy, she tries to do everything that the atypical, metaphysical, spiritual person does. Speaker 2: Right. Speaker 1: But she didn't understand why her reality wasn't the way she wanted to, because she was doing these things and because that it's really kind of a cloudy teaching , and that's why I was trying to get to that, because life is a hologram, life is a script that we write, and the reason that happened is because we were not given the way that the mechanism works, because we weren't there yet as a collective. Speaker 2: Individuals have gotten the download and the information that are perceived to be weird, such as myself. We've. We've had the information for years, but we are not. We hadn't shared because it wasn't time, because if you give somebody that kind of information and they're not ready for it, it's not going to hit right anyways. Okay, and everybody is not at the same level of reception. We're not all there yet because some of us are not necessarily finished experiencing that level frequency for the whole Collective, for the whole. Speaker 1: Collective. Speaker 2: Well, for the whole organic, visceral experience of whatever we're going, through Okay. And so it's not time. It's not time for that information to come about. So it's not like the information is confused or not out there. It's that people are perceiving it in a manner that's not always beneficial, and so it is time, collectively, for clarification. That's why there's people such as myself now opening up and trying to have those conversations right, because the the majority of people now are ready to really look at the rabbit hole concepts of how everything really works. They weren't ready before and they couldn't conceptualize the information and when we tried to share, we were looked at as though we needed to go in a crazy house and be on lots of medication and they, they couldn't it. It created when we did try to share. It was creating in people an overwhelming traumatic, almost like existential crisis, and that's not what we wanted when we did a test run, when we did kind of like a beta test. It was causing people to feel like they were lied to their whole life about religion. Speaker 1: And so the frequency. They lost their solid purpose as well. Right. Speaker 2: It caused people to kind of like smoke come out of their ears and blitz out for a minute. Speaker 1: Because this whole life they've been going to confession and thinking that everybody's going to heaven as long as you confess your sins. I mean there's all sorts of different things that's been going on over the years. Speaker 2: Yeah, and those of us that were trying to share a different way were satanic and you know, a witch. We were a witch or whatever, whatever those negative names are. We got categorized and box compartmentalized into oh, you're going to hell and I'm going to pray for you every single day because I don't even know you need medication. And that just told us that we're going to keep doing our process. We're going to keep receiving the information. It's just not time to fully come out with the whole big steps of the mechanism, and that's what I am here to do. That's what I want to do. Is the collective frequency has raised enough now to where people can start hearing the information when it's given to them? Not everybody by any means, and so that's why there's some confusion, that's why there's some misunderstanding, because when, at the time when we first begin to give it, you know like this stuff has been around forever 50s, 60s, 70s, I mean I feel like it really kind of started. We really kind of tested the waters in the 60s and 70s and they all got looked at like they were. You know, the acid doers and the drugs are making you talk about some weird get off those mushrooms, like that's what they blamed it on? Yeah, because people could not conceptualize a multiverse, for god's sakes, they could not. They could not conceptualize the, the, the, the parallel realities, for example. But what happened is us metaphysicians put in scientists' lap concepts that were unbelievable enough to spark their mind of hmm, what if so? Let me explore that a little deeper. Yeah. And what they began to be shown on their spiritual journey and at their level once they opened up just a crack to be able to have that thought of hmm, it only takes one. Is there possibly any evidence I can find that proves or disproves this? Even scientists, they are taught to look at both sides of the coin. Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 2: If it's this way, possibly then, can it be this way possibly? Speaker 1: That's how science works. Well, that's why placebos I mean placebos, that's what they're for. Speaker 2: And so then, what happened is somebody grabbed a hold of the quantum theory and started thought, and that what that did was it created a uh portal, so to speak, of openness to receive additional information. Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what happened no, there's many things that's happened over the years. That um shows that there are alternate realities, because the metaphysicians have pushed that out there, and what I mean by that is we can go way back. This Nikolai Tesla, in the knowledge that he has on things, hitler during the Cold War, was trying to create a time machine that he reverse engineered from some UFO that crashed over there. Speaker 2: Right, but at that time they weren't ready to hear that they couldn't I understand. Speaker 1: And then the same thing that's happened is the people with all the UFO documents that were released and the people that used to work for the government are now coming out. Yeah, and like I heard a guy say the other day that he worked for the government and they were actually in the process of proving that how these lights like the ones over in new jersey currently all right, they keep appearing, or actually dimensional, jumping, time traveling things of course and or beings or whatever, and the thought process behind is is now that we have created our reality. We have changed our reality so much over the years, like one example I just thought of I mean to go was I was taught when in school that a black hole was an absence of all matter, and now they're saying it's the presence of black matter, right, and so that's just the things that's evoluting, right and things that are coming through, and the reality is that we do create individually. Let's talk about, let's bring it back down to us, instead of talking about the collectedness okay our reality. We create what we think about. We bring about the energy we put out. We get back every minute and when you, when you walk out in your day and you create an environment that where you are bringing negativity. Say, for example, you get up in the morning and your your hair don't curl right or your hair looks stupid and it puts you in a bad mood, and then you walk out and then everybody you're going to see is going to have a bad hairdo and they're going to bring you all their negative energy right back does that happen to you I? Know I was just coming up with something crazy. I was just curious. My hair you can't mess up my hair, it falls right in place every time. But just the point behind it is is giving people the understanding that, yes, your reality you create, but there are things that you are going to experience because you did decide to do that prior to coming here and going from point A to point B, and how you experience that is how you have advanced in your beliefs behind it. Speaker 2: How you perceive that is up to you as well. Speaker 1: Right, crappy definition that feels like shit, or whether you give it a better definition is also up to you, which then changes your perception of the thing yeah, you know, I had a conversation the other day and I made an example to somebody like well, the buddhist priest, they don't, you know they, they have no issues in their life oh, contrary, contrary, and you know what the response was? Well, they don't do anything but meditate for 18 hours a day. Oh, so I was like wow, is that really your perception of those things, right? Speaker 2: Go talk to one. Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 2: Because I guarantee you them wanting and having to go through the, for example, having to train themselves and get rid of beliefs of wanting or desiring that in and of itself was a trial. Oh yeah, of getting to that place where they don't have wants or desires to be one of those top yogi, guru, buddhists. That it, that has transcended all of that. Yeah, it was a process, I assure you. Speaker 1: Oh, no I can go and talk to one of them. Speaker 2: I'm just talking to the general you know they're. Speaker 1: They're creating their reality. This like we are. It is created differently, and that's yeah. Speaker 2: Their reality is like we are it is created differently and that's just all it is, and they went through beliefs that popped up around it . Speaker 1: They eat once a day, they meditate all day. They get plenty of sleep. Speaker 2: They didn't just wake up, and they were born that way , right. Speaker 1: I agree. Speaker 2: They had to do some training to get to that place, and I think that's kind of what I'm trying to teach. But on a more literal level, not everybody is here to go be a Buddhist. Not everybody is here to go be Buddha. That's not your theme, that's not what you signed up for. That's not your theme, that you came here to experience. Speaker 1: And if you want to do that, just sign up for the next one. Speaker 2: Or you can change and go that route now, but having the definition that they have no trials or tribulations that they go through or went through to get to where they are is an inaccurate definition or description of their life, which is back to that concept that I mentioned once before in a podcast, where if you're creating the story and you haven't gone and talked to that individual to get the real story , then you basically have just created a lie that you're telling yourself and so then you're living your life based on untruth. Speaker 1: Yes, I agree. Speaker 2: That's not beneficial . Speaker 1: Totally agree with you. Speaker 2: And then if you take one step further and you compare yourself to that, because you're trying to accomplish that , you're setting yourself up for not a win-win situation Because you can't accomplish something. Speaker 1: That is a lie, I agree, I agree with you accomplish something that is a lie, I agree. I agree with you. And so here we are, in the middle of our life, and what a change that we have seen throughout our years in the spiritual world of how the collective has changed and everybody is Really starting to fall in line. So to speak Fall in line. I don't even know if that's the proper wording. Open up and receive, receive information and be more 360 degree minded instead of tunnel vision that we were taught previously. Speaker 2: Or just be more open and receptive to those things that we were taught that don't exist. Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 2: Like fairies and unicorns and aliens. Speaker 1: I like fairies and unicorns and aliens. Speaker 2: I like fairies and unicorns, and Sasquatch the Bigfoot, the Bigfoot. Speaker 1: The Bigfoot, and so to clarify to the people that listen to these podcasts. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Is keep doing what you're doing, set your positive intentions and work through your beliefs when something negative that doesn't feel good pops up. Speaker 2: I think the other thing to remember is that each individual person is is in fact that you're an individual. You have your own process that works for you. When it doesn't work, any longer than tweak it. Yes. There is no set way to do this Life is a hologram and there is no set thing that works for everybody. You got to figure out what your process looks like and what works for you, based on your template of beliefs, patterns and programs, and it's going to look different than the person sitting next to you. So, trying to do something the way somebody else is doing it is not always going to work for you and it's not always going to feel right. You've got to allow yourself to make it look like it needs to look for you. Speaker 1: Right. Speaker 2: I'll use me for an example. You know, I spent many years trying to figure out what church I belong in, because church just never felt like my, my gig yeah and I went to all the different kinds trying to figure out because my um, so my one grandma didn't go to church and my father didn't go to church. My other grandmother, who shared kind of raising us we went back and forth was Assembly of God. Okay. And then my mother was Episcopalian but she had gone to many different kinds of churches to get to that place. So I didn't really know, I didn't really know what I was in my younger days and in my early 20s, while I was exploring all this, and so I was like, well, you know what, I'm an adult now, going to the Assembly of God just never really felt like I didn't understand them. I didn't understand it. It didn't. Nothing resonated with me, right. And then we were talking about this, the other day I went this was after I had the kids I went to an Easter event at the Episcopalian church with my mom for the first time and took the children. And if you know anything about that religion, their Easter service is many hours long and you kneel and then stand up, and kneel and stand up, and I didn't know that when I took the children, and so I only brought a certain amount of Cheerios and a certain amount of sippy cups because, uh, you know, like the kids were six and three, something like that, and yeah, man, it was a long day. Speaker 1: I can imagine it was a long day. Speaker 2: At first it was okay because the standing up and the kneeling down kept them entertained. They thought it was fun. But after a while, you know, and I'm talking like three or four hours- in my knees, hurt Mom no, they started getting fussy and nappy and wanting to go to sleep. And we were out of Cheerios man , we were out of juice boxes. Speaker 1: So you know the. Speaker 2: I went around testing out different religions for myself yeah I went to the methodist church. I went to all these different churches trying to see what felt right, where, where it felt like I was supposed to be even started studying, like wicca and um, what pica and I don't know whatever those other ones are called. Yeah, I mean, I started just kind of reading books on all of it. Speaker 1: Did you sacrifice chickens? Speaker 2: No. I didn't do that. I might have if it resonated. Maybe, who knows. But what I found is that there were parts of Wicca, for example , very natural, nature-oriented parts of that that resonated with me, Hindu. There were parts of that that resonated with me. And so what I did is I kind of just, for a while there I did my own practice at home, taking components from this one and parts and pieces from this one, and I just kind of did my own thing. And so my, my, my space, my religious space, I suppose I made like an altar like they do in Wicca. That was kind of my church space in the corner of my room. But then on that Buddha, you know, some of those symbolic statues and stuff resonated with me Crystals and so I just kind of created my own like little religious space there for a while, because that felt right. Yeah. In my little corner and I would go and I would sit in that space and just I don't know wait for whatever to happen. Thoughts would sometimes come in, inspirations. Sometimes I just sat there because it felt good, and that was my practice for a good many years, because I was kind of just kind of exploring what my pattern was. So to bring it back around, what I'm saying is, the first thing that has to happen is is that everybody has to stop thinking that there is a one size fits all format. Speaker 3: Right. Speaker 2: When it comes to talking about religion or spirituality, it's a self-devised daily ritual routine that is made a la carte, unique to that person, and that's why all the religions need to just be given open forum to exist because that person that goes to church every single time the doors are open and reads the Bible and carries the Bible around, that's what works for them. Right, we're all, when you break it down to the core, we're all honoring a concept that's outside of us and we're all trying to get through this. Speaker 1: We're all channeling information. Speaker 2: We just use different words to talk about it no, I think it's all the same. I totally agree with you too and judging other people because they do it a certain way. It's not helpful it. Speaker 1: It's not beneficial. Yeah, it's not. Speaker 2: Because all it does is cause more strife or going into it thinking that you have to do it in the ABC format or it doesn't work and you can't transcend or enlighten or thin your veil. Those all just will create limitations. Speaker 1: There are a couple of things that I think that everybody has in common in their religious thoughts and their life thoughts is a everybody has that voice in their head which is your, typically your higher self. Just some people don't hear it clearly and some people don't listen to it Right. And I think then the other part of it is is everybody has a conscious mind to view 360 in their life, and I think if everybody were to listen to that voice and have that constant 360, look and remember. I think the third thing in that is is remember that everybody is in this life trying to do the same thing you're doing. They just may be at a different level, different place, different. You know whatever you're doing. They just may be at a different level, different place, different. You know whatever. And having that understanding towards everybody will create a more calm environment and less judgment towards everybody yeah, and I mean there are. Speaker 2: There are finite steps that go below that, obviously yeah you know, I agree you first when you catch yourself doing something, that's that's the first step is you've got to catch yourself doing it. We've been programmed to kind of just live robotically and live almost like in an unconscious state of just okay, I get up at the same time every day, I drive the same path, I go to the same job, I come home, I fix supper, I put the kids to bed, I try to eke out 30 minutes of my time so I can take a soaker bath maybe, and I mean like it's the same routine stuff. But then you sit around and say , well, why is my reality not changing? Well, it's because you're doing the same old thing and not stopping and catching yourself doing those habits so that you can look deeper in and look at those beliefs. And that's the information I try to bring forward. Is the is the finite steps of how to go about it, and awareness is is probably the number one, is catching yourself doing it so that you can then change the habit. Speaker 1: Yep Life is a hologram. It is, it truly is you can ride it any way you want. That hologram can be anything, anytime, anywhere. Speaker 2: Right, it truly, truly is. And if it's not going the way you want it, it's because you're not riding it that way for several reasons Maybe you don't believe you're worthy enough, maybe you don't believe, maybe you've told your story that the other person doesn't want it and that's the belief you're hanging on to, which is just that self-created story about somebody else. It's not. That's not true. Somebody else, it's not. That's not true, maybe. I mean, there's a multitude of things and I would say in a nutshell, that's what I do at the merck center. Yeah, is that I help people break it down? yeah, I agree and kind of rummage through the chaos of of the piles of muck. Speaker 1: I agree, and that's the thing about it all is being that open and receptive to getting that higher self-information from anywhere. Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean listen. Sometimes it's not easy, sometimes it is not easy. Speaker 1: Sometimes it can be confusing. Sometimes the information is right there and you just don't understand it Sometimes it can be. Speaker 2: Yeah Well, sometimes the information's right there and you just don't understand it . Speaker 1: Sometimes it can be yeah, yeah. Well, I feel complete to you. Speaker 2: I think so yeah. Speaker 1: I mean, life is a hologram Life is a screen. Speaker 2: Life is a hologram. Speaker 1: Write it however you want. Speaker 2: Wow, that was bad, Really bad. It really was. It was pretty bad. Maybe we bad, it really was, it was pretty bad maybe. Speaker 1: maybe we should cut that out you know, maybe, maybe it'll get cut out, maybe it'll be left in, who knows? But you know where they can see it or hear it where on the social media at the merc centers do tell t-h-e-m-e-r-c, c-e-n-t-e-r-s, and that's also our website, just add the dot org on to the end of it, orgon. Speaker 2: Orgorg. Oh, it sounded like you said Orgon. Speaker 1: The MercCentersorg, and so look it up on the website . Orgon is an alien species. Orgon is also something you play that makes notes. Oh, it's an organ, never mind. Anyway, hey, we appreciate y'all listening. We love you, and do you have anything you want to say? Speaker 3: Love you. Journey on man. Speaker 1: Like, follow and share. Speaker 2: And don't forget to Ring that bell. Speaker 1: Have an awesome, awesome day. Speaker 3: We'll see you next time.

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