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Speaker 1: Good morning
everybody.
Welcome back to the show.
We had a little bit of a crazy.
Good morning we just did our
countdown to go live and right
after I started she's like Dr
Jane's like yeah, I'm ready, I'm
ready, and then crash, bang.
She's like Dr Jane's like yeah,
I'm ready, I'm ready, and then
crash, bang, bang, bang bang.
Speaker 2: I knocked over some
stuff.
Speaker 1: Anyway, so kind of
lightened the mood a little bit.
We got a good laugh.
We're started.
I'm sorry editor.
So good morning.
Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2: Good morning.
Speaker 1: We are going through
some.
I am going through some things,
and one of the things that came
into my realm of thinking is we
, as humans, have a tendency to
sit and wait on things.
We set our intentions, we hope
people will do the best, and the
reality is we expect the best
from people, and the reality is
they just have a tendency
sometimes not to do it, do it
the way we expect them to do it,
and so we sit back on our
laurels, waiting for something
to happen, when it just doesn't
happen.
Speaker 2: Okay, and so what's
the topic?
Why do we sit on our laurels,
sitting on laurel, whoever that
is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, poor laurel,
Sitting on our butt and not
doing anything.
Why do we do that?
It can be anything being
adventurous being a expectation.
You know, we're here for
experiences.
We're here to experience things
, and that's part of the reason
why we do sit back and not do
anything, instead of building
our reality in the way we want
to.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And like like, for
example, I am currently doing
some stuff in our apartment and
I would really hope that it
would have been went differently
, because I had an expectation
place and it didn't.
And so I was like you know what
, why am I sitting back waiting?
Just do it myself, just do it
myself, and that's what I'm
doing.
But I was expecting things to
go a different way than it
really did, and what I have
learned is it just don't happen
a lot, it's a lot.
We expect people to act a
certain way.
We expect our friends, family,
employees, employers, everybody
in our reality to act a certain
way, based on what we would do.
And then they don't, and then
we sit back and just wait and
all it does is delay the
situation to either be resolved,
have fun, whatever it is.
Why do we do that, dr Jenny?
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Not the topic you're
expecting.
I can tell.
Speaker 2: No, it's, it's a good
one.
I'm topic you were expecting I
can tell no, it's good one.
I'm trying to decide what
direction to take here.
Oh, it's bifurcation.
Speaker 1: I heard one of our
people the other day use that
word and I was like oh,
somebody's been talking to Dr
Jenny, well, hmm, Well, hmm, so
what you said has many
entanglements.
Speaker 2: It is entangled in a
lot of different things, so
let's break it down.
Break it down Master, what so
expectation is a big contender.
Speaker 1: It's a buzz killer
man.
Speaker 2: It can be, but you
have to have some level of
expectation, Otherwise what's
the point?
So there's two levels of
definition for that word.
One of them will keep you in
divine flow and one of them will
limit your flow.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So I guess let's
begin there add something in
real quick.
Sure.
Speaker 1: Because I realize,
when I put expectations on
people I are on things or on
situations that when I do that,
I'm doing it based off one of
three things.
Okay, one is either a my former
hit, my you know my history, my
, my former situations, or or uh
, things that you pull from.
B is what?
What do my beliefs?
What would I do my beliefs in
in that situation?
Or because I always like to do
the next best thing and leave
things better than I found them?
And the?
The third thing is is I do it
based off what I think that
person's beliefs are, or that
thing's beliefs are?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Are you okay over
there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just have a
little sniffly sniffle.
Speaker 1: You have a sniffy
sniff, yeah, snarf, snarf, snarf
.
Speaker 2: No, it happens
whenever I'm cold.
Speaker 1: Oh it does, You're
cold.
Speaker 2: I'm a little chilled.
Speaker 1: You're a little cold
today.
Speaker 2: Snarf snarf.
I haven't heard that in forever
.
Did he Snarf snarf?
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that
in forever Thundercats,
thundercats.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: Sorry, we're telling
our age.
Speaker 2: So expectation, let's
tiptoe into that for just a
second.
So if you have an expectation
that if you do a thing, that
there is going to be some sort
of outcome, Okay.
And you leave it at that, not
insisting on what the outcome
must be in order for it to be a
positive experience, or a good
thing, or a success any of those
positive words you want to use,
then, that sort of expectation
is what keeps you in the higher
vibrational state of being.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: When you have an
expectation, but then you take
it past the period and make a
comma that says I have an
expectation comma and it must
look like da-da-da-da-da-da,
then that's what trips you up.
Speaker 1: Because, you know, I
develop these things based off
how?
Because, generally speaking,
I'll come up with a dream or a
vision of what I think something
should look like and then I'll
set my expectations based off
that.
Yeah, and it's very limiting.
Speaker 2: And that well, it's
beneficial.
So there's nothing wrong with
that process, that technique.
It's when you are absolutely
100% insistent that it must look
like that that limits you.
Not leaving yourself open to
allowing it to look differently
than that is what kind of
creates the blockage or the
limitation.
Because you're giving your
higher self or the universe an
idea of what you would like it
to look like.
And if it must look like that
and they're wanting to create it
in a more extravagant, bigger,
better, more divine way, you're
and you're not letting that
bigger picture because you're
not really ready to or are not
able to conceptualize an even
better or bigger or more
intricately detailed vision to
occur right now, just because of
conceptually where you're at,
then you're limiting the
miraculous way that it could
come in, even bigger and better.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm
trying to say.
Yeah, that's what I meant by it
.
Speaker 2: So not being
completely insistent that, okay,
this is not happening the way
that I decided it must happen in
my head, then something must be
wrong and it's going awry, and
so abort mission and do nothing
is what a lot of times will trip
people up.
So expectation can be a good
thing and it is a beneficial
component to the whole mechanism
of creating a concept.
When you have something Okay,
concept okay.
When you have something okay.
So when you've experienced
contrast and you say, okay, you
know what I experienced this
person, place, event, whatever
and it was great and wonderful,
or it wasn't so great and
wonderful.
Now I know better what
additional details I want to
subtract or add.
You're communicating with the
universe on what you would like.
The next experience to be a
little more like that.
So you're kind of you're
whittling down the parts of it
that you didn't care for, the
parts of it that you would like
to.
And the only way to be able to
get to that place at each level
is to have the experience, the
good part of it and the bad part
of it.
And if you, and so that concept
goes out to your higher self
and your higher self immediately
embraces that concept, holds
the vibrational frequency of not
only that concept that you've
put forth at your level of
existence maybe say, you know, I
identify this game as kind of a
school.
Maybe you're in middle school.
Your higher self is way past
doctorate level, is way past
doctorate level.
Your higher self knows exactly
what your pre-human expectations
and design was.
It knows everything that you've
experienced formally.
It knows everything that you
came here to experience.
It knows exactly what you need
on all levels at any time.
So it takes that concept and it
plugs in all those different
components of added features
that you didn't necessarily add
in your level of awakened state
or conceptuality.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: But if you are
staunchly attached to the
insistence that it must look
like the way you visioned it, or
the way you daydreamed it, or
the way you have an expectation
that it must go this way,
otherwise the sky is falling and
my whole world is falling apart
, then you won't allow yourself
to align with the vibrational
frequency of that experience
that has been designed for you
by the higher self.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: You'll align with
parts and pieces of it, which
then will bring about some
experience that is different
than the previous one that you
had, and it might be a little
bit better and a little bit more
pleasurable, but it may also
bring about some additional
contrast that you didn't
necessarily care for, which then
allows you to come to a place
of more choices that you can add
, and it will also allow you to
release beliefs, patterns,
programs, habits that are
causing you to perceive the
experience in not the best way,
which then lightens your load,
lightens your vibrational
frequency, allowing you to rise
even higher in your frequency so
that you can align with this
experience on the highest plane
of existence in the vibrational
reality.
Speaker 1: So there is some
truth to the metaphorically
speaking terms that get put out
there, as in expect the
unexpected, and what was the
other one that slipped my mind?
But when you, when these
phrases go out, or these things
that we get taught, there is
some actually spiritual basis to
some of those Like expect the
unexpected is to do is to keep
yourself from limiting your
expectations and your or your
intentions.
Based off an expectation that is
limited, like I had a vision of
how I wanted something to go, I
set my expectations on it and
completely didn't go that way,
when it could have went
differently and so, and then
trying to control it and
manipulate it in a human manner,
you know is to get to that goal
is also limiting.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And we, as humans,
are taught to do that.
Speaker 2: And that's all based
on what you're perceiving the
situation as through your own
personal beliefs, patterns and
programs Correct that are set in
place that cause you to look
through a certain type of lens
when you look at your reality
right and when we, when we as
humans, do this um and this
applies in a lot of our life, it
applies a lot of it we know we
expect our, our bank, to give
her better, a better interest
rate.
Speaker 1: We expect our doctors
, our lawyers, our employers,
our friends, our family.
We have expectations we put out
in all directions and when we
sit back and wait for those,
we're just affecting our own
reality in a different way based
off what we're expecting them
to do.
And then we humanly go through
and try to manipulate it.
And when there is some good to
that there is some good to, you
know go in, because you create
your own reality.
Well, there's all good Right.
Speaker 2: It's all good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And that's the part I
would like everyone to work
towards is like, for example,
expect the unexpected.
That metaphor has become almost
negative.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Wait for the other shoe to drop
.
Speaker 2: Expect the unexpected
Plan for the unexpected as if
it's a bad, horrible, terrible
thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, plan for the
worst and hope for the best.
Speaker 2: In reality, it
doesn't have to hold that kind
of energy.
Expect the unexpected could
mean open yourself up and let it
be even more profound than you
can even dream about.
Speaker 1: Right.
You know what happened when I
went to the store a minute ago.
What brought this up was is the
lady I talked to all the time
at the wall, while I go to the
wall, while I was a convenience
store here in Florida, and I
went down there and I said have
a great day.
And she said I intend it to be
the best day ever.
As I was leaving, I was like,
hmm, cause she always like has
something negative to say.
She'll say something like, yeah
, I got to work till noon or I
got.
You know what I mean.
So I always have something
negative.
And today she was like no, I
mean, I intended this to be the
best day ever.
I was like, girl, I'm rubbing
off on you.
One day, if you quit being
negative, everything around you
will quit being negative.
And that's where we, as humans,
go wrong.
Is we plan for the worst and
hope for the best, when we
should be.
We should be accepting the
worst and intending the best and
we should be going through our
daily lives in a manner of
realizing things happen that we
have to have to accept and we
have to not be emotionally
attached to.
You know, like we had.
I had the other day, the lady,
uh the uh one of the people here
said it was actually one of the
employees was like do you think
they'll?
Uh, do you think they'll ever
change this?
I didn't remember exactly what
the subject was and I was like,
probably not.
I said so.
When you get up in the morning
every day, say, man, one day,
this is going to be this way and
just move on, but don't hang on
to it.
You know, because we hear it
all the time.
How do you all not get so
worked up?
How do you all not get worked
up over this situation?
And it's because reality is, if
we do get our emotions involved
into it and then we start
trying to humanly manipulate it,
it's like you say, the trash
takes out itself and all we have
to do is just intend that to
happen for the bad things to go
out for the bad things to get
released and quit expecting the
bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even
better than that is if you could
get to a place where your
thought process looks something
like this nothing is happening
to you, everything is happening
for you.
Then that eliminates good and
bad.
Right that eliminates good and
bad, Right.
If you can get to a place where
this thing that is not pleasant
is for my benefit of expansion
and growth, so that I can decide
from there.
Did I like that, Did I not?
If I did, I'll do more of it.
If I didn't, then I'm going to
research why I didn't check in
with my beliefs, definitions,
patterns, programs.
See if that's ready to be
released.
If it is, do the tasks involved
in letting it go?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then begin again.
Speaker 1: Right, you know,
because most of the time when we
humanly try to manipulate the
expectations we have set, yeah
it is not ever the result that
we want.
Speaker 2: No, and it's
exhausting.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It feels tumultuous,
it feels awful, daunting, it
just feels like crap.
If you check in with the
emotional guidance system when
you're humanly trying to
manipulate a situation, person,
event to go in a different
direction, that is not your job.
Speaker 1: Right, I agree.
Speaker 2: Your job is to just
experience it and decide.
Did I like that?
If so, give me some more.
Did I not like that?
If so, find out why.
Release it and align with the
next best feeling thing I agree,
I agree.
Otherwise you end up exhausted,
tired.
Time feels like it's going by
so slow.
It feels like things are not
happening as fast as you want
them to, or it feels like things
are happening too fast out of
your control.
It just, it just is experienced
through a pair of glasses that
are just uncomfortable as all
get out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree
.
Speaker 2: Those are the big
indicators.
Again, it goes back to how does
it feel?
Yeah, if it feels yucky
whatever word describes yucky
for you, those lower vibrational
frequencies then that's a big
indicator that either you're
trying to force a situation that
is not meant to be or you're
viewing it through a set of
belief systems and definitions
that are no longer beneficial
and ready to be looked at and
ready to grow and evolve.
Speaker 1: And that's what I
mean by sitting on our laurels,
sitting on our butts and not
doing anything is not actually
figuring out why we don't like
something, and we also spend a
whole lot of time as humans
trying to figure out what
everybody else is doing to us
instead of why is this happening
for us, or why is this
happening to me?
Why is this going on?
And it's all based off fear and
expectations.
The fear is that the
expectation is not going the way
we wanted it to go, and so that
creates that belief system
which makes us lazy.
It doesn't create the belief
system which makes us lazy.
Speaker 2: Fear is a.
It doesn't create the belief
system.
What it's doing is it's showing
you a belief system that's
already in existence and in
place, that's ready to be looked
at.
Speaker 1: I guess what I meant
to say is it activates that
belief system.
Speaker 2: Well, it validates it
.
Speaker 1: Validates it, and
that's actually a good way of
putting it.
But the thing about it, when we
get into that template of the
fear, then because that
expectation is not going in the
direction that we want it to go,
or whatever, in anything we
have a tendency to either A,
because fear is very limiting.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fear is a very
limiting belief.
Well, it will sit back and will
actually delay because we're
not stopping to look at it.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: And we'll delay what
we expected to happen in the
first place, that we're
irritated about, that it's
delayed, that we're going to try
to do it anyway.
And we're going to delay it
even more because we're feared,
because of the fear of why is it
being delayed, instead of just
doing it, instead of just
looking at it and figuring out
why it's happening?
And if it's supposed to happen,
then let it be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because
sometimes doing nothing is what
you're supposed to be doing,
supposed to be doing, I agree,
but because we've been brought
up in a busy society construct
and you know there's always
emails to look at and phones to
answer and people to answer and
like we forget that sometimes
just sitting and being is very
healing.
Speaker 1: Right, no, I agree.
Speaker 2: And giving
self-permission.
Speaker 1: Do you remember?
Speaker 2: that time, Because
how many times in our life, in
our human life, if you just are
sitting doing nothing in life,
if you just are sitting doing
nothing, have people said you're
being lazy or unproductive?
Speaker 1: or procrastinating.
Why aren't you doing anything?
Speaker 2: And sometimes you're
just supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
You remember that time in our
lives when we were both working
on just being, because we were
so caught up.
It was right after we left
Texas.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We were so caught up
in the busy world of careers and
and business and everything
else when you, when you stop per
minute, you're human, out of
just repetitive experience
doesn't know what to do.
Speaker 2: Doesn't know what to
do and it feels uncomfortable it
does, it makes you.
Speaker 1: You're like you're
what do they call stir crazy?
You know you go stir crazy.
You're, you're looking for
things to do, you know, and it's
like when you just get confused
right instead.
Of just being like.
We used to stop and say
somebody would ask us what we
were doing and we would.
Our response was we're just
being today.
Yeah, we're just gonna.
We're just being today right,
because you're.
Speaker 2: Essentially when you
get to that point you have to
create new habits because you've
got an underlying, unconscious,
habitual pattern of got to be
busy doing something because
I've been scolded for sitting
around doing nothing.
Right, because other people in
our life are wrapped up in the
constantly got to be doing
something or I'm not being
productive in life.
Have an expectation towards you
, even way back into childhood,
of you should be up doing stuff
running around like a wild,
crazy person.
Speaker 1: Go outside and play.
Quit sitting in the house
watching TV.
Speaker 2: And so then you carry
that into your journey of human
existence and you run around
constantly in a whirlwind of got
to be doing something.
And if you stop and give
yourself permission to just be,
then I know.
For me, what happened is there
was a lot of guilt and
self-judgment that came up
around being lazy, nonproductive
.
I could hear my parental
guardians in my head from
childhood saying, like you said,
go outside and play.
Is your homework done?
Did you do your chores?
Is your room clean?
Going down this list of things?
Speaker 1: Go feed the dogs.
Speaker 2: Right, just
constantly trying to have you
run around ragged.
Speaker 1: So they could sit and
do nothing.
That's exactly what it was when
I was a kid.
He was sitting in their chairs.
Go feed the dogs, go take out
the trash, go, you know, and
anyway.
So I also want to make sure and
clarify that it is OK if you
are just that person to stay
busy, as long as you're doing it
for the right reasons.
Don't do it because you're
afraid somebody is going to call
you lazy or unproductive or
whatever, and just remove that
term lazy and turn it into be.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to be
today, because every now and
then people just need a day, you
know you know, and sometimes it
is some there are people in the
world whose complete mission
and spiritual agenda is to just
come and be and hold a certain
vibrational frequency place, yep
, and they don't have any other
mission.
They can be and do whatever it
is they want to be and do.
And if that's your mission,
then sometimes it can feel like
you're lost, like I have no
purpose.
Like you're lost yeah, like I
have no purpose, because you're
living in a society and have
been brought up in a society
where, in order to be successful
or be a good person, you've got
to be busy doing something
Right.
Speaker 1: You've got to be
doing something.
I'm kind of that person.
I've never been the one to just
sit around, but I don't do it
because I feel like somebody's
going to judge me.
I do it because I just like to
stay busy.
I like to keep my mind busy, I
like to keep my hands busy, and
that's what I enjoy doing.
I enjoy doing it.
Every now and then, though, I
will stop and just be.
I mean just what?
Last weekend we just stopped
and we just stayed in bed all
day, pretty much.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And no judgment.
We ordered pizza and we just
watched movies.
Was that two weeks ago?
But it's still.
It can be okay then.
That's where I was going with
that conversation was make sure
people identify it the correct
way.
Um, if you're up staying busy
and having to do things because
you feel like that somebody's
going to judge you, you're doing
it for the wrong reason yeah,
it would be time to.
Speaker 2: It'd be a good time
to have a look at that, because
it feels yucky.
Speaker 1: Right, you know, like
cause I heard a lady the other
day say, too, by the way, that
she's working and she's going to
get a second job because she's
expected to get a second job.
It's not that it fit.
It was one of our employees and
I was like what?
And anyway I won't touch on
that too much.
But going back to it, and now,
if we are doing something,
because we have a fear that
we're going to be judged, we're
staying busy all the time.
We're not just stopping to be
us for a minute and we have that
fear that we're going to be
judged or people are going to
look at us funny and we're
staying busy because of that.
And it's the wrong reason.
But if it is in your nature to
be that busy, active person,
because it's enjoyable, because
it's enjoyable, you're doing the
next fun thing right then, then
it is perfectly okay to do that
of course and it is perfectly
okay to to do a million things
yeah, yeah.
You know they call it.
What do they call it now?
Add All this diagnosis of all
these people are being called
attention deficit disorder or
whatever it is.
And when really could they just
be staying busy?
Who knows, who knows, what'd
you snook your nose up for?
Speaker 2: I just titles and
stuff are just so limiting.
Speaker 1: I know OCD.
Speaker 2: I would love for
people to listen to my words.
Speaker 1: So who cares?
You like your stuff in a
certain way?
Who cares why?
Accept that label you?
Speaker 2: know even labels and
titles.
They hold a frequency and they
serve a purpose for that person.
For a time being, until they
start questioning their, their
permission slips, sometimes to
allow them to experience things
on a broader scale or to
experience things on a less
broad scale, so that they can
get a really, really true,
authentic experience on whatever
they're wanting to experience
on a spiritual level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and sometimes
those labels will open doors for
them to stop and look at things
.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for sure.
Speaker 1: You know, like you
know, I'm going to bring up the
OCD because I've heard this.
For some reason, the last
couple of weeks, this OCD thing
has been a topic of conversation
around work.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: With lots of people
oh, I'm OCD, so I'm doing this,
I OCD, my OCD makes me do this.
And I'm like thinking to myself
really, is it really OCD, or is
it just you?
Why are you accepting that
label?
Because now you're obviously
you don't like it, or you're
using it as a crutch Just to
justify to yourself that you
like your stuff in a certain way
?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Anytime
somebody comes to me with those
kinds of sentences, it's
obviously for me it's definite
indicators of things that I will
present to them as possible
things to look at and explore.
Because anytime you're blaming
your behaviors, your actions on
something else and not truly
being accountable for them, then
that is a form of cop-out, of
not wanting to look at things.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
Speaker 2: If you truly are
ready for expansion and growth
and awakening, you have to and I
hate to say that, but you do
Really, you have to become
accountable for the fact that
you create your own reality and
you've got to be willing to get
down and dirty with the excuses
that you're using to justify
your existence.
If you truly want advancement,
right.
If you don't, then continue
forward and move on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the part of
this this morning, this topic
that I really wanted to touch on
when I was thinking about it is
, is why do we become
disappointed in the expectations
that we have set?
Why do we have disappointment
when we have set the expectation
?
Speaker 2: so we can change that
expectation looks like A
through Z and you only get A
through B and you're expecting
to have A through Z, then that
puts you in a place of lack and
you didn't get everything, so
you must have done something
wrong.
So you're disappointed that it
didn't come the way you
envisioned it or planned for it
to happen, which then limits you
to be able to get X, y, z, or
see that ABC was exactly what
you needed at the time and that
what came out of that was
dumping a whole bunch of shit
sandwiches, thus lightening your
load.
Speaker 1: No, I agree.
Speaker 2: And that's how that
happens.
Speaker 1: You know, and I think
a lot of people don't um
associate the different aspects
of their life to this
expectation and intention thing.
You know, one of the and I
think it marries into a whole
lot of lifelong topics and it
marries into finances, it
marries into work, it marries
into relationships, it marries
into all these things.
But I think the major number
one thing that people miss the
boat on is the finance stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that is
a big topic, the topic of
abundance.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
And financial by all means,
yeah, financial abundance.
Speaker 2: But it definitely.
It's a mechanism that is kind
of a universal concept and so,
yeah, it plays into all slices
of the life pie Right, Every
single one of them.
Speaker 1: You know, because
here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Here's what I want to
touch on.
Okay, I want to use your
specific comment as a real live
example, rather than talking in
code, I feel like.
So, whenever you started the
conversation, you were saying
that you waited for other people
to resolve the issue, and it
never happened.
So you said fine, I'm going to
just do it myself, and so why
did I wait so long?
But then you made a comment
that said I always like to leave
things better than I found them
, rather than saying I want
things left better than found,
whether it comes through me or
other people.
Speaker 1: Good point.
Speaker 2: So your belief of
leaving things better than you
found them has a very, very
definite energy about it that
you are the one that's going to
make them better than you found
them, not somebody else, that's
a good point, and so, therefore,
if you're sitting around
waiting for someone or some
group of ones to fix the topic,
they didn't agree to leave
things better than they found
them.
You did Agreed, and so,
therefore, you'll wait until
you're fed up or disappointed or
some sort of energy that
motivates you or lights that
inspirational fire under your
butt, which is usually
frustration, or usually some
sort of some level of
frustration or anger that says,
well, bleep it, I'll just go do
it my darn self.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I feel like
that's a really common thing
that happens in the collective.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
Speaker 2: And so that's why I
wanted to talk about that.
Just to give an example, if
you've got a belief in there
that nothing gets done unless I
do it right, I mean nothing gets
done right unless I do it or I
like to leave things better than
I found them, Then you're
excluding that thing from being
done exactly the way that you
think that you want it done by
somebody else just because of
those two beliefs and that'll be
entangled in every single thing
that you try to go out and
experience.
You'll perceive it through that
set of glasses every single time
.
You should have waited until
you get to that aggravated state
of being that causes you to get
up and make that belief true.
So the only thing you're
waiting on is not the other
people.
You're waiting on yourself to
take action along the lines of
your own belief.
That's in place.
So again, that takes us full
circle back to you're creating
your own reality based on your
beliefs, patterns, programs,
habits, etc.
Speaker 1: You're right, that
was a mouthful.
Speaker 2: Carrot sandwiches for
everyone.
Speaker 1: And so going back
onto the finances now.
Okay, on the finance stuff is
the generation prior to our
generation was taught you put
your money in the bank, you save
your money, you work 40 years
at the same job and you get a
pension, and then your money
grows in the bank and by the
time you retire, you'll have
enough money to live on, enough
money to live on.
And people still, to this day,
I think, uh, set intentions and
they put their money in the bank
and expect it to grow just like
that and they set these
expectations on this money.
That is limiting and in in the
finances, part of setting
expectations.
When we create those beliefs
around money and forget that
money is energy, then we set
expectations and we sit back on
our butt and we do nothing with
it.
Speaker 2: You do nothing with
what.
Speaker 1: With the money.
You do nothing with your money
and it becomes stagnant, and
stagnant money doesn't grow, it
doesn't, it doesn't go anywhere.
Money is an energy.
It comes and goes.
You know, uh, if you think
about it, everybody every day is
using money, and if you are not
using your money, then it's not
going to grow, because money is
energy, it comes and goes.
The more energy you put out,
the more money you get back.
You know, the more energy you
get back.
And so it is, just like
everything in our life, an
energy.
Speaker 2: Right.
But that can trip you up as
well, because unless you are
absolutely not utilizing any
form of money at all in your
life and I can't even think of a
scenario where you do that all
in your life, and I can't even
think of a scenario where you do
that because even homeless
people will trade and exchange
then you are money, doesn't.
It doesn't go stagnant, because
you're always paying for
something, money out and you're
always getting money back.
Speaker 1: Well, let me-.
Speaker 2: So there is a, even
if it's a's a slight trickle.
Well, let me Right.
Speaker 1: Well, let me.
Let me clarify them.
When I met you, right,
everybody has bills.
But if you what my thought
process is on it in this, maybe
we'll do a complete podcast on
just money one day.
But because this one is about
setting expectations back on our
laurels.
But when we set expectations or
we accept money and we get
caught in that monotonous, okay,
I have a car payment, a house
payment, electric bill, water,
real gas bill and food and one
credit card, and so now I have
seven bills and those seven
bills I pay out every month.
I make money and I put the rest
of my money in savings or
whatever I do with it or just
sits there, because there are
lots of people that that money
just sits there and they do
nothing with it.
It's just the same repetitive
results every single month.
Speaker 2: And what's wrong with
that?
Speaker 1: That is not boosting
energy.
It's the same energy.
Okay, and when you do abundance
, I disagree.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what
that moany, moan thing means.
Speaker 1: That's okay, we're
allowed to disagree.
Speaker 2: That's me agreeing to
disagree with my co-host.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, in my
thought process.
So when we go to, we have seven
bills, we're paying out $2,000
a month and we're making $6,000
a month.
We're just continuously doing
the same thing with our money
and not doing anything else with
it.
Speaker 2: then we are being
stagnant, but it still is energy
flow right.
And looking at those as I'm
grateful that I have this means
of flowing that money, energy is
a little bit different
vibration than okay, I have all
these bills and my money is only
going to bills and I'm not
doing anything else with it.
Blah, blah, blah.
That's a much different
frequency.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: A lower frequency.
I'm not putting it in savings,
I'm not investing it, I'm not
doing all these things that they
says that I should do with it,
that I should do with it.
Speaker 1: It is still an
exchange process that is
exchanging one energy for
another energy, and that is a
form of money flow, but what I'm
trying to say is is when you
have we're getting to that we
have seven, say, if we have
seven bills, we have seven
levels, and when we continuously
just manage these seven levels
which we're being appreciative
of that we are paying our bills.
We're putting money in our
savings account and it's growing
0.00% of nothing and it's
growing.
Speaker 2: You realize that
statement right there is
limiting.
Speaker 1: I agree.
I agree.
I'm just making an example of
how people are thinking.
I'm not saying an example of
how people are thinking.
I'm not saying I think that way
, but the because I actually had
this conversation the other day
.
And so when you're at this
level and you just continuously
stay at this level, you get a
raise at work and you're still
at this level, you pay off your
credit cards.
And now you're down here and
it's cruising along and it's
doing nothing more.
You're staying there.
I'm not saying it's, I'm not
saying the energy is not flowing
, but you're not pushing the
energy to grow.
Okay, I know you, the, the
topic is a, and maybe I'm just
not explaining it well, but
anyway, that's.
It's off the topic of this week
.
Speaker 2: So nope, it's right
on topic.
And it's exactly what we're
supposed to be conversating
about okay but you're gonna have
to go.
You're gonna have to go deeper
with that, because there's a lot
of it's creating some confusion
out in the energy.
What do you, what are you
wanting people to do with that
money, and what do you mean by
all?
that use it because you're
leaving people out there kind of
on the edge and they're not
understanding what it is that
you're really saying about it.
What am I supposed to do with
it then?
I'm supposed to put it in the
savings, am I not?
Am I supposed to spend it?
Am I not like like it's
creating confusion?
Speaker 1: So what I would
challenge everybody to do to
understand more of what I'm
trying to say is if you put $500
a month in the into savings
account, take $50 of that money
and go spend it on.
You Don't put it in savings,
but for 50 and savings, take $50
of that money and go buy
something you wouldn't normally
buy.
Speaker 2: And why is that?
Speaker 1: And I want you to do
that every single month for six
months.
Speaker 2: Why.
Speaker 1: Because it's going to
return twice as much.
You're going to start, you're
going to get a raise at work,
you may get a random bonus, you
may find money, whatever that is
, just take that $50 and go
spend it every month on you.
It's on something that makes
you feel happy.
Speaker 2: Why is that going to
give you return?
Speaker 1: Because it's energy
out and we get back what we put
in.
We get back what we put out and
when you trust in spirit to do
those things with money and you
go spend this money on you on
something that makes you feel
good, it's going to come back
twofold, threefold, sometimes
fourfold, and it's going to come
in ways you have to be open and
receptive.
It's going to come in ways that
you're at least expected,
promise you it'll do it.
Now I'm not saying to go out
and blow all your savings.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying just to watch the
result.
If you are in that same place
level and you and you put 500
bucks a month in savings, put
four, 50 a month in savings,
take $50 or even a hundred bucks
, whatever that is.
Take a hundred bucks and just
go do something that you
wouldn't normally do.
Go buy something you wouldn't
normally buy.
Speaker 2: Go do something that
makes you feel good on the
inside, on the inside, and so if
I follow what you're saying to
do and it ends up making me feel
awful and it strums up guilt
and why would it do?
that and it strums up because
there are people that have
belief systems in place that
don't allow them to function in
that manner, and so that's going
to allow people to experience
some of those hidden beliefs,
patterns and programs that are
going to come up.
If they are holding onto that,
there may be guilt, there may be
shame, they may not even get to
a place where they can let go
of that $50 because they can't
put themselves ahead of the rest
of the family, like there's a
lot of beliefs out there that
could potentially not allow
someone to experience what
you're proclaiming will happen
until they whittle through some
of the definitions and beliefs,
and some of them will have to
deal with beliefs before they
can even get to a point to take
that $50 and actually go spend
it.
Speaker 1: Okay, that is what it
is, and that's okay, because
what I'm saying to do, what I'm
saying is, if you are in a place
, that you can do that and try
it then do it If it brings up
beliefs that cause irritation.
I'm not saying anything that's
going to break the bank or cause
anybody to have financial
bankruptcy, because if you can't
afford the 50 bucks then
obviously don't do that.
But if you are putting 500
bucks a month in savings, which
is obviously $500 of money that
you really just going to put
back, then take 50 bucks of that
and go do something that builds
that internal energy, if you
can get to that point.
If you can't get to that point,
then that's okay.
But just the thought process of
it is going to bring up things
in your reality that will make
you stop and look at it, which
is hindering a flow of abundance
.
Speaker 2: Right, of course.
Speaker 1: And so, either way,
that's what I'm trying to push
people to do.
Speaker 2: If you're ready to
look at it and it resonates with
you, then of course do that.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard
of a woman going to get her
nails done?
Speaker 2: But I would be
curious to know why you have
such the commentary that you
have about putting money in the
savings, like you keep saying
all these negative comments
about putting money in savings
and how it's a waste of time and
it's 0.00%.
I would challenge you to look
at that and why putting money in
the savings is such a waste of
time.
Because you've got to honor,
you've got to honor all
components and they've all got
to have validity.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: Okay, just checking.
Speaker 1: I'm just putting a
challenge out there to the
listeners, okay.
Speaker 2: You can yeah whatever
, if they yeah whatever.
Speaker 1: If they want to.
I know you don't agree with it.
That's okay.
No, I don't disagree at all.
Speaker 2: If you're ready to
put yourself in that place of
practicing and playing with it,
then I encourage anybody to move
forward with it 100%, but I
don't think that you should
invalidate putting money in a
savings, because that's just as
valid of a learning technique
and the flow of energy as any
other form well, I guess what
I'm trying to say is I'm not
saying that savings accounts are
bad.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that
if you're going to put money
back, there are better ways of
making more out of your money.
And go talk to a financial
advisor about it, and that's my.
I'm not a financial advisor, I
just in my opinion, you're right
.
There are better ways for your
money to grow.
Speaker 2: Okay, so here is my
perspective about it.
Abundance as a word, and we're
talking about abundance of then
you are, in a way, you're
limiting yourself from being
able to experience and accept
all forms of abundance because
they don't look a certain way.
You have to allow all forms of
abundance in order to experience
the mass definition of
abundance.
And so if you are negative
about a savings account because
from your perspective, of your
lens, that you're looking
through, that you're looking
through it is an invalid way to
get the money, energy, flowing,
even though it still is making
money pennies on the dollar.
Whatever you said, it is still
a way of your money making you
money and that has to be just as
valid of a way of letting money
in as go and do your job that
pays you $1,000 an hour.
Like big and small have to all
have a level of value and
acceptance.
You can't deny one and expect
another and not fully embrace
the whole concept of abundance.
Even down to non-money
Abundance includes what you're
always abundant.
It's what are you abundant in?
Are you abundant in negative
perspectives, positive
perspectives?
Are you abundant in money?
Are you abundant Like there's
abundance?
You're never not abundant, but
if you're going to experience
the money concept of abundance.
You've got to give all types
value.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: Whether it be that
you're trading eggs for milk
with the neighbor, or you're
trading your expertise and
knowledge for a paycheck, or
you're putting your money in a
savings account and getting
0.01% back, that money is still
making money for you.
They all have value.
Speaker 1: I agree, I'm not
disagreeing with you at all.
I mean I didn't tell them to
quit putting money in savings.
I said take part of that money,
a small percentage of it, and
just try doing this 50 bucks,
whatever they can get, to go out
and spend something that they
wouldn't do and watch.
And because a lot of people put
that money in savings out of
fear of spending it, it's not
about the savings account, it's
about the emotionally attached
behind it.
Speaker 2: Okay, then talk about
that.
Speaker 1: And so when you get
to a point to where you put
money in savings because you
were scared of a rainy day or
you're scared that you're gonna
lose your job, you're scared.
If you're putting money in
savings for the wrong reason,
then it creates negative beliefs
and you will build on it
Because you're putting money in
savings.
For what?
If you put money in savings to
save for something, that's one
thing.
If you're going to buy a home,
you're going to buy a car, you
want to go on a trip, whatever
that is, then that's a
purposeful savings.
But when you're just putting
money in savings that is fearful
, because you don't want to
spend it, then you're limiting
the return of that money because
it's a fear.
And so that's what I'm trying
to get people to understand is,
if you are doing it for that
reason, or if you're putting
money in savings of 500 bucks a
month repetitively, every time
doing I'm not saying savings
accounts are bad, okay, I'm just
saying to take part of that
money and go spend it on
something that makes you feel
good and just do it.
Do it for two or three months
and watch it come back, cause it
will.
It always does, always does.
It'll come back in one form or
another.
Okay, and it's.
And so I'm not saying that
savings accounts are bad and I
totally agree with being open to
any and all forms of growth and
wealth and finances and
abundance.
I totally agree with that.
You should have many forms
going on.
You should have many things
going on.
You should have many things
going on, I agree, because it
creates balance, creates balance
in growth and but what I'm
saying is is when you go to,
when you just put money back
because society has taught you
that you're supposed to have
nine months of your bills and
savings account, that's a
societal top belief that you
need to do that.
Not saying you shouldn't have
savings account, not saying you
shouldn't have money put back.
I'm just saying that if you do
this out of a fear, then you are
creating a spot in your own
bubble that limits because of
the fear.
And so if we can get people to
understand that if you limit
those through those kind of
means and you take that 50 bucks
and you go spend it on yourself
and make yourself feel good,
make it be good, that money will
come back.
The higher self has never
failed me doing it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And so maybe I didn't
present it in the right way.
I was just trying to present a
challenge, in a kind of a vague
way, to where people will quit
sitting on their laurels with
every part of it, you know.
Sitting on their money, sitting
on their, their, their stuff,
you know.
Sitting on their beliefs,
sitting on their negativity, on
their fears, on their, you know
their stuff is.
Is you, don't you?
This life is your life, that
you're here for experiences, for
when you're set back and wait
to look at those things that
create controversy inside of you
, or laziness as they call it in
society.
Okay that you believe you're
being lazy, like why is it bad
for somebody to sit in the bed
all day and watch TV?
Because society taught it's bad
.
Why is it bad for us to go down
and buy a new car once a year?
Because society has taught it
this?
Bad and that's what I'm trying
to say is is until you figure
out what in it that you are
doing it for and create those
beliefs, then we're sitting on
our laurels.
You have to stop and say why am
I if you can't sit peacefully
in your own energy?
You need to look at that.
Don't sit on your laurels If
you set't sit peacefully in your
own energy.
You need to look at that.
Don't sit on your laurels If
you set an expectation for
something that don't happen.
Figure out why.
Figure it out.
That's where I'm at.
Speaker 2: Okay, thoughts it's a
lot of confusion.
Okay, it's a lot of confusion.
Okay, there's a lot of
confusional energy out there and
I'm just trying to figure out
what to do about it, if anything
well, I don't know me neither
okay, well, so I knew you want
to close it up mean I don't ever
want to close a podcast leaving
confusing energy out there.
I want to leave the podcast
feeling better about it.
And I get what you're saying of
making sure that if you're
going to put money in the
savings, for example and that's
the example you used doing it
from a place of an energy
frequency that's not out of fear
of that if you don't do that,
something bad is going to happen
.
I get that concept.
Speaker 1: Because all you're
doing is storing bad.
Speaker 2: But what I don't
understand is if you're in a
place of doing it out of fear,
how are you going to get to a
place of being able to allow
yourself to go spend 50 bucks on
yourself on something that you
don't identify as a need, if
you're already putting money in
that account from a fear-based
template and if you've got
beliefs in place?
I don't think that you can
necessarily guarantee anyone
that they'll have the same
experience that you're having or
have had by going and doing
that.
I don't know, something just
feels off, and that's what I'm
trying to put my finger on, and
I may not accomplish that
through this particular podcast.
Speaker 1: Maybe we just touch
on it better in our finance
podcast.
Speaker 2: It may be something
that comes up later, because I'm
not necessarily clear on what
direction to take any of you at
this point.
Like my pony has stopped to eat
the grass.
Speaker 1: And that's okay.
That happens sometimes.
Maybe it's just time to be.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just time
to be.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think
that we, everybody, should stay
tuned.
We'll, we'll put a podcast out
there.
Yeah, you know, sometimes, dr
Jenny, I don't agree on
everything.
I know that's hard to believe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: But that's okay and
that is okay.
Especially, one of our touchy
kind of subject has always been
kind of finances, because we
have a lot of different views on
it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a
couple.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say a couple.
We do have a lot more.
I think we really talk through
a lot of them.
Big contender, really.
You labeled it as big, really.
Okay, all right, anyway, then
that's okay, we're allowed to.
Speaker 2: I'm just being
accountable for my side of
things.
Anyway, it's all good.
Speaker 1: So I have nothing
else to say, do you no?
Speaker 2: I am, for whatever
reason, I'm just not getting
anything on this one for now.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Well.
Thank you all for listening.
Speaker 2: I'll have to check in
and maybe there'll be a part
two or yeah, or whatever and so
this is a perfect example of not
having an expectation that it
must look a certain way, being
okay with it being exactly what
it is where it's at, and and
moving on and trusting in the
higher self to bring additional
information, if that's what's in
alignment with the highest and
best for all that are involved.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: And moving on.
Speaker 1: I agree, I think it
definitely created food for
thought.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's really what
it's about for us.
Speaker 2: Whether that food
tastes good or not, I'm not sure
.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess we'll
find out.
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