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Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Good morning
everybody.
Welcome back to the podcast.
Good morning, hey.
This is a milestone for us.
We are starting our second
season today.
Speaker 2: Where's the applause
Use buttons?
Speaker 1: oh, my applause I
forgot.
Yeah, that's right.
Season two, season two, episode
one, and it just happens to be
january 1st 2025 yeah, welcome
to the new year.
Speaker 2: Adds up to nine.
Speaker 1: I remember when I
thought the year 2000 was like a
long ways away.
Yeah, and it adds up to nine.
And that means what abundance
right In numerology?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Ask Google.
Speaker 1: Oh.
So the new year and new season
brings different topics.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 1: It does.
Interesting my topic today, you
ready?
Speaker 2: Do tell.
Speaker 1: So with the new year,
I was looking at some research
this morning.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And did you know that
less than 18% of the new year's
resolutions that people make
are actually accomplished?
It's like 17.8% on the study
that the university of Colorado
did.
Speaker 2: Why is that?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's where the
topic goes.
Why is that?
Speaker 2: I don't know?
Speaker 1: Oh, I would.
I would assume it's because a
people are just lazy, Just
kidding.
Just kidding.
That's a human response.
I think it's beliefs.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And accomplishing
your New Year's resolutions.
Are they in alignment with your
reality that you've created and
the intentions you've set?
Speaker 2: So I'm sorry?
Say again Are you creating?
Speaker 1: Say again oh, are
your resolutions in line with
your reality and your intentions
that you have set for your
reality?
Line with your reality and your
intentions that you have set
for your reality?
Or are you doing basic, human,
societal, taught resolution?
And if you are doing those,
then why aren't you
accomplishing them?
That's where the topic goes
today for me, because it's going
to be a and where on that do
you find yourself?
Well, I don't do your new
year's resolutions because I
don't really even do no, I don't
do them either.
it's, but the majority of people
out there do and, uh, matter of
fact, the study said that 91
percent of americans do some
kind of a new year's resolution
and less than five percent of
them write them down.
They're normally done at the
ball drop right afterwards,
after they start their new human
time year, and they make these
new year's resolutions and the
next day they don't remember
because they were so drunk that
they don't even write them down
or accomplish them.
Speaker 2: Right.
And so well, they never will
accomplish them if they set them
up in a format that keeps them
in the future.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree.
Speaker 2: I'm going to do this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so there's
three topics.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're going to
keep going to doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's three
things in the resolution making
that makes them not be
accomplished.
I think A1 is your terminology
of your intention.
B is your belief system.
Behind it and see your human
ability to actually
subconsciously process the steps
by which your higher self is is
giving you the the, the clues
of the life of which way you
should go.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I myself think
that new year's resolutions are
kind of ridiculous.
I think they need to be.
If you're going to do a new
year's resolution, why not do it
on Valentine's day?
If you're gonna do some kind of
a resolution, resolution is
something that you want to make
better of yourself and when you,
you should be doing that every
day.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I agree.
I mean subconsciously you do,
you do a new resolution Kind of
just every frame by frame in
that reality.
You really kind of do that on a
subconscious level, because
that's how the mechanism works.
Yeah, every time you level,
because that's how the mechanism
works.
Every time you experience
something that's uncomfortable,
whether you're awakened or
whether you're not you make a
log of that and you say, wow,
that was really uncomfortable.
I don't really want to
experience that again.
So I'm going to do some things
to not have to go through that
again or not have to go through
it on that level in that way.
So the the deep reality is I
think you're making a new year's
resolution multiple, multiple
times throughout the year, I
agree it.
Agree.
It's the intention behind it,
it's the way you set it up, it's
the format by which you try to
execute, or the lack of.
Yeah, and I think the conscious
awareness of I mean, did you do
it just because everybody else
was doing?
Speaker 1: it.
Speaker 2: That's right, there
you go.
What's the point?
What is your purpose?
What is your why?
Why are you doing it?
Just to fit into the group, so
that you're like everybody else
and not look weird?
Are you really truly deep down
wanting to accomplish said thing
like?
What's your why?
For for wanting to?
Speaker 1: change.
That's exactly where I was
going with it is.
We have a tendency to follow
the herd and like, for example,
I remember one time I had said
many years ago, I said in New
Year's resolution I'm going to
lose weight this year.
Why was I going to lose weight?
I felt fine in my own self, I
mean, I was comfortable, I was
happy and I wasn't even really
heavy.
I felt fine in my own self, I
mean, I was comfortable, I was
happy and I wasn't even really
heavy.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to lose
weight and get my boyish body
back from my teenage years.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that he
took it from you and the reason
why I did it so I think that's a
part of it is it's the lack of
ability to have conflict
resolution and it's the fact of
why are you doing it if it's not
something that makes you feel
good, based on our pain and
pleasure template and our fight
or flight template?
Speaker 2: Because if somebody
says I have to hear this out.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: If Well, I'm glad
that you know where you lost it,
because then it's easily found.
Speaker 1: Right, I agree, I
agree Okay.
Speaker 2: Now that.
Speaker 1: I know my comedian
moment, we can move on.
So, like for the example that I
would give on conflict
resolution, like the term that I
heard yesterday that was said
well, my mom said, for your New
Year's resolution, my New Year's
resolution, I should do this.
And so, because this person
didn't want to do a conflict
resolution, to say, well, that's
not what I want, mom.
Speaker 2: What is a conflict
resolution based versus a
resolution?
Speaker 1: well, because it uh
what's the difference?
Well, conflict is.
Well you know the conflict is.
It's a disagreement between two
people or a belief that's
bumping up.
It's a conflict.
Um, it's a um you, peer
pressure is a conflict, and some
people, based on the flight or
fight, fight or flight mechanism
, don't like to approach
conflict even with upon
themselves.
They'll run from it and ignore
it or just fall in line with the
herd.
Speaker 2: I see.
Speaker 1: And so if you don't
know how to process those
conflicts that come up on your
resolutions, or if there's, if,
if those resolutions don't even
fit, what process those
conflicts that come up on your
resolutions?
Or if there's, if those
resolutions don't even fit, what
makes you feel better and then
address the conflict within it,
then you're not.
You're not accomplishing the
very first step of resolution,
which is believing that you can
actually do it well, what if you
live in a space where you're
not allowed to have those kinds
of experiences?
Speaker 2: their parent and
probably still live at home and
under that guideline, what if
they feel like they can't go
against the parental guidance?
What do you do about that?
Speaker 1: Well, you know.
Speaker 2: If you're in a
marital situation and your
partner is hell-bent on one
thing and you're wanting to go
in a different direction, like
there's different scenarios.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: So how do you
navigate that?
Speaker 1: situation.
Well, that still all falls back
on conflict resolution.
And so when, like, for example,
the example that I gave was
actually not an adult and they
don't live with anybody I mean
not a child and they don't live
with anybody that I know of Okay
, but you're right If you're a
child and you're living at home,
generally speaking, the
conflict resolution within the
of all of that is about the
communication with whoever
they're living with.
And you know, look, listen, I
appreciate the input on my
resolution, but that's really
not what I want, and the reality
of it all is is it's just the
communication within it.
Same thing If they you live in
a marital situation, you know,
in a true marital situation, the
communication is the key to
that.
And then coming to a copacetic
place for both parties to agree.
But the silly part about all of
it is is resolution should be
done all the time, and so this
should be in practice.
Speaker 2: Right, I agree.
Speaker 1: And if you're, and if
you're in a situation to where
you have created a spot where
you're not communicating or
you're not doing what makes you
feel good on the inside, then
that's a that's a, that's a
that's a you problem.
That's not, it's not anybody
else's fault.
So like if this example that I
made, if this person does not
communicate that and say, listen
, that's not what I want, this
is what makes me feel good and I
hope you love me through it.
But if you don't, you don't,
then that becomes a them problem
, because their beliefs are
worried about what other people
think.
Now, in a marital situation, it
is give and take, and so it is
more of a balanced thing that
has to be communicated about.
Do you agree?
Um, crickets, all I got was a
head bob, just like kind of like
on Dumb and Dumber, that little
head bob.
Just like kind of like on Dumb
and Dumber, that little head bob
On a higher plane on a
spiritual level.
Speaker 2: there is some aspect
of me that does agree.
You said aspect On a human
level, we can definitely create
realities that make it feel like
it's not that easy.
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: Please describe your
Well.
If you're, I mean if you put
yourself back in your teenage
years, if you went to your
parent, who's a very staunch
guider and they're not
necessarily a guider, they're
more like a dictator.
You said dictator necessarily a
guy or they're more like a
dictator, then you're not going
to be given the freedom
necessarily to be able to go to
them and say I mean, you've
created a reality where you
don't necessarily give yourself
the freedom to say, yeah, that
doesn't really work for me, but
thanks, that doesn't really work
for me but thanks, or sometimes
in a marriage, you could have
created a marriage that feels
humanly like.
You don't have that option,
especially if that person is
very staunch in their viewpoint,
their beliefs, their patterns.
Then what happens?
Your path bifurcates and you go
on your way and they go on
their way and you experience
your two separate journeys
because they're different.
Like so there's part of me
humanly that agrees, there's
part of me spiritually that
agrees, but then there's part of
me in both those aspects that
disagrees, that agrees, but then
there's part of me in both
those aspects that disagrees.
So that's why you got a head,
bob, because I'm not 100% one
way or the other.
Like there's a lot of that.
Speaker 1: If a relationship
bifurcates because of a
resolution, then there was other
issues involved, because that
should be communication.
But in my opinion, that's just
where I think about it, because
it's just a resolution which
should be a done daily basis.
Now, when you, when we do, have
resolutions that we put out
there, that is against our
belief system.
We have to look at our beliefs
behind it to make an
accomplishment and our what did
you say the other day?
Verbology, the verbology of
something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the verbology,
I mean the verbology is a
significant part of
communication.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: Especially the
verbology that we choose in the
culture that we were brought up
in.
The verbology that we choose
and the culture that we were
brought up in, the English
language has so many variations
of one word it's very, very easy
to misinterpret what one says
verbally Dude, dude.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I had to throw
that in there.
Speaker 2: Dude, and so it can
be challenging.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
So how do we teach people to do
daily resolutions and to make
them achievable?
Because it's a human American
tradition to do resolutions and
that's actually international.
But the resolution behind the
new year is something that
people do once a year, so only
once a year.
I guess they want to improve
their life or improve their
reality, which makes zero sense
to me.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you're
living in a multiverse and each
individual is on their own path.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so there'll be a
group of them that are going to
do it once a year, and 17% of
them, obviously, are going to do
nothing about it, and that's
just part of the buffet of life.
Speaker 1: The 17% is the ones
that actually accomplish them.
Speaker 2: Oh my bad.
Speaker 1: It's the other 83%
that don't I see?
Speaker 2: But then if you break
that 83% down, what?
What percentage?
Are doing it on a daily basis?
And accomplishing it and don't
feel the need to or don't feel
like they can bring that up in
some survey.
You know, I don't know the need
to or don't feel like they can
bring that up in some survey.
I mean more exploration, more
data.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with
that.
Speaker 2: Statistically if
you're a scientific person.
Speaker 1: But what we do know
that if you want your
resolutions, be it daily, yearly
, monthly, quarterly, whatever
that is to be accomplished, we
know that you have to believe
that it can be accomplished
first of course and whether you
can, or whether you can't that's
right I don't remember who said
that napoleon dynamite maybe oh
, it is what it is, if you can
or you can't, is that what you
mean?
Speaker 2: I don't know why you
felt the need to reword what I
just said no, I was.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking
in my head.
I was trying to answer your
question.
Speaker 2: Some popular person
made that, coined that phrase.
Speaker 1: I think it was Jack
Black.
Speaker 2: Whether you believe
that you can or whether you
believe that you can't, it's
true.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: I agree so what do
you choose to make true for
yourself?
That's correct, I apologize for
whoever needs to get that
credit.
Can one of the staff members
look that up, please?
Speaker 1: Thanks, yeah, please,
producers, can you do that?
Tick, delete.
It's this.
That's the producer in the
background.
Okay, all right.
So the the belief system is
what hinders the flow of daily
change.
Weekly change, yearly change,
um, let's say hinder, don't
really hinder, it actually kind
of captains the change.
Because if you bump up against
beliefs that don't follow your
resolutions or your daily
changes, or what weekly changes,
whatever that is, then that
resolution is going to be almost
impossible to accomplish.
And here's a prime example and
I used we used to use this all
the time back when I was, when
we were doing lectures is if you
tell a kid, when you eat little
debbies it's going to make you
fat, and they believe that.
Every time they eat little
debbies, their subconscious mind
creates a place to store that
energy.
And and when you tell them
enough, they believe it.
If you tell somebody they're
stupid enough, they start
believing it right if and when
they believe it.
If they say, for example, the
new year's resolution is I'm
going to get my master's degree
this year, I remember that two
years ago with you it wasn't a
resolution, no it wasn't a
resolution.
You just came to me and said
I'm gonna get my master's or my
or my doctorate, and if you
believed at that time that you
weren't smart enough to get your
doctorate, you wouldn't
accomplished it oh, I agree 100
and so looking at those beliefs
behind your resolution is the
very first thing.
Other well, the second thing
actually, because the first
thing is deciding what the
resolution is.
The second thing is I.
Speaker 2: I think the first
thing is deciding why you're
going to do a resolution.
Speaker 1: Like that's the first
step, yeah.
Speaker 2: Are you just doing it
because you want to fit in?
Because, if that's the reason
you're doing it, don't waste
your time.
Yeah, don't waste your time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Are you doing it
because you truly want to
accomplish some sort of growth
or evolution under the topic?
Because if the true underlying
desire is that you truly want to
see change, then naturally
you'll put in the effort or the
action to make the change, to do
the thing.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: And you'll find a way
to make it fun.
And it'll be enjoyable because
you truly want it, you truly
desire it, and so then it
doesn't feel like work or a
chore or a have to kind of thing
, because that holds very much a
different energy and a
different frequency about it and
whenever it holds that kind of
frequency it makes it no fun and
it makes it.
You know, you said I I can
speak for me.
When it falls in that category
or it falls in that frequency,
it makes me not want to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Because I think to
myself there's so many other
things I could be doing that are
much more enjoyable than this,
so why the beep am I doing this?
And so then I sit with it and
toggle around and say, okay,
what is the why?
Why am I doing it?
Okay, and if it's something
that I view that I have to do,
then I start playing with it and
see if I can see it from a
different perspective and come
at it from a more exploratory
place of excitement, like I get
to do it or I'm doing it for a
different reason, right, and see
if I can't find a better
feeling place within it so
you're coming from the
perspective, let me, let me make
, let me paint a scene for
myself, because I'm trying to,
because you had said why is the
first step?
Speaker 1: and?
And so you're asking, why?
Speaker 2: why do I want to do
this thing so?
Speaker 1: what is the first
step?
And so you're asking why?
Why do I want to do this?
Speaker 2: thing.
What is the thing, though?
Yeah, let's pick an example.
Okay, you started with weight.
Okay, I want to lose weight.
So when you're there at the
ball and partying with friends
and you make a new year's
resolution, or whatever that
scene looks like, and you say
well, my, my resolution is I'm
gonna lose 30 pounds this year
okay, so now you've identified
what, and then you go to the why
and why am I doing that?
is it just an empty statement to
fit in with the crowd and you
really have no intention behind
it to even mess with it, visit
it again, toy with it?
Um, which, generally speaking,
if you're going to take the time
to say something out loud,
there's some part of you that
wants it.
That wants to do it because you
have some sort of belief or
perspective about your body
image, because we're going to
stay on the topic of weight.
So if you're going to take the
time to announce it out loud to
all that can hear, then I would
say as a guide, as a holistic
person, leader, the first thing
would be to look at why did you,
what in you made you choose
that and give it some sort of
space in your reality by
announcing it out that that's
what you wanted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I totally
agree.
Speaker 2: It came up and it
came out for a reason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree
.
Speaker 2: It came up, and it
came out for a reason, yeah, so
there obviously is some
underlying perspective about
yourself that you want changed
on a deep level.
But we're going kind of deep,
so let's back up.
So the first thing is are you
committed to what you just
pronounced to the whole world at
the 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 moment Right,
right and are you committed to
doing whatever it takes to get
you to that goal?
Is it a true goal or were you
just kind of farting around
because you were in a social
setting?
Speaker 1: trying to fit in,
yeah farting around?
Speaker 2: right, because you
were in a social setting just
trying to fit in.
Yeah, because if you're just
farting around and you just said
something to try and fit in and
that's really the extent of
your intention, yeah, then why?
Speaker 1: there's no point.
Speaker 2: I mean it stops there
, honestly, because no matter if
you come to someone such as
myself or yourself or you try
and attempt it on your own, it's
not going to be very long
lasting, because it was to
satisfy the them outside of you
and those things typically don't
have a longevity of energy span
, they fizzle out very quickly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the value of
them goes away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the energy
fizzles out.
Speaker 1: Totally agree with
you.
Speaker 2: And so that would be
the first thing.
If you're truly on a journey of
commitment and want to see
yourself accomplish this thing,
then you dive deep, then you
dive into, okay, what does
weight symbolize, and what does
it symbolize in my bubble?
And is it because I have a
perspective about myself
visually, or I mean we could go
so, so deep into all of the
things that extra weight
symbolizes and means.
That's like a three or four
part series.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think,
any topic really can be when
you're doing resolutions or
you're trying to do daily
improvement.
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to keep
it very general and kind of
surface-like that would apply to
any topic, really.
Speaker 1: No, I agree.
I think once you've decided
okay, you know New Year's Eve is
coming up, you're going to do a
resolution because you're going
to be drunk and somebody's
going to walk around with a
microphone that's doing some
kind of a video cast and going
to hold the microphone to your
face and say what's your new
year's resolution?
And you blurt out in a drunken
state never make another
resolution.
It'd be like that guy on Johnny
Carson that time when they were
doing that and he held the mic
to his face and neither got his
looked at him.
Like I don't do resolutions, it
was pretty funny and it was
talked about for months.
But so you?
So you know you had a new
year's resolution coming up.
You know that that, uh, you
look in the mirror every day and
you say I think I need to lose
some weight.
Or you either, or you answer
the phone and it's somebody
saying hey, I've got a fitness
class you should, you should
come join, throw off, you know,
throw off those.
A fitness class you should come
join, throw off those five or
ten pounds you need to lose.
And you believe that that's a
different kind of intention
behind your or a different kind
of why.
And then when you start getting
into the beliefs behind it
which you said is a very deep
topic any belief topic about any
certain improvement I think
it's going to be very deep.
Oh, yeah, it's called the onion
effect.
Yeah, topic about any certain
improvement.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to
be very deep.
Oh yeah, there's, it's the.
It's called the uh onion effect
.
Speaker 1: Yeah, layer by layer
it can be very deep it can and
so it can also be a very easy
process.
Speaker 2: I mean you can peel
the layers or back very quickly,
within minutes right then.
Speaker 1: That's where I was
going to say well, to go is when
you determine why and you make
the decision that, okay, this is
what I'm going to do, be it a
new year's resolution or a daily
, when I get up in the morning
I'm drinking my coffee, I'm
going to change my life.
You have, you have now decided
and you're going to make a
commitment to this, and that
comes with the happiness, the
successes behind it, the bumping
up against beliefs, the
conflict behind it, and so you
have now made a commitment that
you're going to do this, and no
matter what the consequences are
or the way it makes me feel, if
I do pump up against a belief
or a conflict somewhere, I'm
going to accomplish this goal.
Because now that resolution,
once you've decided why and
you've committed to it, it now
should become a goal for you,
which that's kind of verbology,
as you say it, as a resolution
and a goal are really kind of
the same thing.
It's just one's accomplished
and one's not.
And so, once you identify the
why, you identify the what, the
why, and now you're looking at
the how, which is your belief
clearings or your belief system
behind it.
Because, like, for example, I
had the other day, one of the
one of the ladies made a comment
about having to buy new clothes
because she had gained so much
weight and I said well, why
don't you just work it off?
If you don't want to buy new
clothes, and work it off, or or
or lose the weight to go back to
where you were, oh, I can't,
because I have diabetes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, that's just
that.
It's not the fact that you
can't because you have diabetes,
it's the fact that you believe
you can't right Because you have
diabetes.
And and my response to that was
, as I pointed out, a couple of
people walking around like that
person's got diabetes, that
person's got diabetes and
they're not.
They're not heavy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for sure
.
If that person's not there,
though, they're going to stay
where they are.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: But that's with
anything.
Speaker 1: And so the commitment
to it and figuring out those
belief systems behind it and be
open and receptive to looking at
the beliefs Like if you, or
like my grandpa used to say, if
you count calories, you're going
to multiply them onto you.
If you cause you're, you're
believing that that is a
negative thing, when your body
needs calories to operate every
single day.
Of course, and so you're now
identified calories as a bad
thing in your body needs
calories to operate every single
day, of course, and so you have
now identified calories as a
bad thing in your, in your
thought process, and so that
becomes a belief and you know,
like the textbook answer your
body needs 25 or 2800 calories a
day, or whatever that is to
function, and so for me to lose
weight, I I'm going to consume
2,100 calories a day.
Well, that didn't make any
sense, because now your body is
being starved of nutrients, as
it needs.
Maybe, and so, or whatever, and
it's going to store those
nutrients when it gets it in
abundance, which in turn causes
people to gain weight.
And I also heard one time what
was his name Farley Chris Farley
the comedian.
Somebody asked him one time why
he was heavy and he said
because I'm happy.
Speaker 2: Right, that's an old,
old one.
Yeah, that's an old adage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fat and happy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because back in
like 1700s, 1800s, being heavy
was representative of abundance
and you had enough riches to be
able to eat the food.
And so it was looked at as a
societal positive thing.
Oh, I wish we could be fat,
because that means we would be
rich and abundant and could eat
whatever.
So if you were skinny and
scrawny, it represented
something entirely different
than what it represents today,
in our age.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember in
that interview when he said that
because it was the topic of
well, you're a celebrity now and
world famous comedian are you?
Do you plan on making your
appearance different?
And because this was back in
the the early 90s- yeah when
that was the trend, that all
celebrities were skinny, they
had these bright white teeth.
You know that whole sabang yeah,
exactly there wasn't very many
heavy heavy celebrities back
then.
Right, and he?
His response was he why would I
change what got me where I am?
And that was a big statement If
you really stop and think about
it.
Why would I change what got me
where I am?
And the interviewer's response
was because it'll make you
healthier.
And he said I am healthy, I am
happy.
And he said if I decided I
wanted to lose weight, I would
Right.
But I'm not going to do it
because other people think of me
negatively.
I'll do it because I want to.
Speaker 2: Right.
Well, I mean, and that's the
key in any of the processes on
any topic, if you're doing it
for somebody else, if you're
doing it for the people outside
of yourself, it's not going to.
It usually is not going to
stick or be long lasting, no
matter what its title is, no
matter what its verbology is,
and and so that's.
The next step is deciding okay,
what does this mean to me and
why would I want to achieve this
thing?
And we're going to stick with
weight.
Why do I want to release weight
?
First of all is how I would
state it.
Speaker 1: The verbology first
of all is how I would state it
the verbology.
Speaker 2: I would not ever call
it losing weight, because if I
lose something, then it means
that I want to find it again,
and so I shall yeah.
Speaker 1: And it always pops
back up.
When you lose something, you
always end up finding it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's the
verbology behind it.
Speaker 2: But yes, so the first
thing I would do when I'm
committed I would change the
wordage.
But figuring out is it truly
something that you want inside
of yourself?
Is it representing a belief or
series of beliefs that you're
ready to look at and let go of
or redefine for yourself because
you've been like?
You used the example of the
child being told little debbies
are going to make you fat.
If that child gets into their
adult ages and they're tired of
carrying around that baggage and
they decide that they want to
restructure their body image,
that would be a belief that I
would look at to see.
Is it?
Is this programming still
beneficial if it's not throw it
in the trash and either replace
it with loving energy or rewrite
the whole thing to, to say even
maybe a rabbit hole concept of
I can eat whatever I want
because it's all just energy,
and still maintain my set point
and weight?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally am
running with it.
I agree.
You know the what, the why.
Speaker 2: Are you running away
from it or running with it
Running?
Speaker 1: with it the what, the
why, the how and how come.
You know the how come, how come
.
You know the the how come I
think what is how come?
Speaker 2: how come I'm doing it
.
How is how come different than
how what?
Speaker 1: oh, what is that?
Well, how is how you do
something, how come is why you
do something?
Speaker 2: so how and how come?
Speaker 1: so you add one word
from the verbology and it
changes the context of it Like,
for example, how is a
step-by-step process of how
you're going to accomplish
something?
A how come?
Speaker 2: is a personalized why
.
The step by which you're going
to accomplish something is the
how.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Okay, and the how
come.
Speaker 1: Is a personalized why
.
So if you say I'm going to lose
weight is my resolution?
And then you say why?
Oh, because I want to feel
better about myself.
Speaker 2: Okay.
So how is that different than
just?
Why Is that like?
Speaker 1: a hillbillyism.
I'm trying to explain it.
And so if you say why?
And you say I'm going to lose
weight because I want to feel
better about myself, and then
you own that and you make it
personal it's the how come it's
more personal to me?
Why is such a broad statement?
How come is more personal For
you, for me, I definitely feel
like that is definitely.
How many times are you going to
say definitely?
Speaker 2: Because I just find
it so, and on an anthropology,
Listen lady.
Place.
I find it so very interesting
that you add one word to that
and it changes it for you.
Speaker 1: Well, here's why.
You want to know why?
Because what does the word come
mean?
Speaker 2: Wow, we're going to
go there with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You want all the
meanings.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you
what I think.
Speaker 2: Come means to move
from one direction to another,
towards something.
Speaker 1: Towards something.
So how come there's the sexual?
Definition of that.
Well, those are spelled two
different words.
Speaker 2: It depends on how
you're spelling it.
Speaker 1: I agree.
And so now you've made it
personal.
And your, how is your
step-by-step, your, how come is
bringing it to you?
Speaker 2: But if you break down
the verbology and the, how is
the steps by which you come?
It's just the same thing.
It's the steps by which you get
from point a to point b we're
gonna have to agree, disagree, I
guess.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, whatever
works for you.
Speaker 2: I just wanted, I was
just curious because in my mind,
oh, that's different in my and
it's like it is the virology
behind it.
Speaker 1: So you can say why.
That's not a come hither
comment, that's not something
that you're pulling energy to
you for.
When you say how come, you're
saying it can be.
Speaker 2: If you're asking the
why why do I want this?
Why do I feel like I need this
it can be the how come.
Speaker 1: It can be, I agree,
you know.
But I think when you're, if
you're a little lighter in the
britches, in the spiritual world
and you just say why, it still
leaves that question in your
mind of why it leaves it.
But when you change it to,
everybody understands how and
they understand, they understand
come like come here when you,
when you change it to how come,
it puts it more on a personal
level and the verbology behind
it is given positive energy for
it to come to you.
that's my thought behind it I
see which is why I always say
I'll come, but anyway, that's
kind of.
It's kind of, that's all
definitions, which we already
had a podcast on definitions.
So I just look at it and when I
identify why and if I decide to
do something, I figure out the
how and then the how come.
Speaker 2: Okay.
So whenever you're going
through your process and you get
to the place of answering the
question of why, what in your
mind?
What is the answer to that?
Speaker 1: Because I can.
No, I always answer that
question that way, but no,
really when I.
So this is how I do it.
Speaker 2: So when you're
sitting there contemplating life
and you've come up with a topic
of okay, why am I doing this?
Why do I want to do this?
Speaker 1: Why what's?
Speaker 2: the why.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you just say to
yourself because I can, and you
move on to the next thing no.
Right, that's what I'm asking.
Well, like this this.
Speaker 1: This bring the topic
of hand.
We, jenny and I, for Christmas,
decided that we were going to
both learn a musical instrument.
Speaker 2: Some of this more
than others.
Yes, instruments, that is.
Speaker 1: We're actually.
Jenny has removed all of our
living room furniture and it's
now become pretty much a live
band with many instruments
already and some more on the way
.
But when we were having that
conversation I asked myself why?
Why would I want to do that?
And remember, we had the
conversation about Life's Little
Instruction Book and I thought
to myself well, that's the,
probably the why, because I read
that years ago and, you know,
because you read what years ago
in life's little instruction
book, and one of the days of it
was learn to play a musical
instrument.
And and like again, if and it
said, if you already know how to
play one, learn a different one
.
And so that was the why for me
was because so I identified it
Because it said it in the book,
because it said it in the book
and back then when I was doing
Life's.
Speaker 2: Little Instruction.
And what did that mean?
What did that mean to you?
Speaker 1: Well, the Life's
Little Instruction book that I
was going through years ago the
ones I didn't accomplish I put
into a folder, and so when you
brought that up, it popped back
up into my reality, which is why
I said, yeah, I'll do that.
And so I had to identify if
that was something really that I
wanted to do, how come I wanted
to do this.
This is the why I said, yeah,
I'll do that.
Speaker 2: But how come is the
answer to the why?
I'm sorry, that just tickles my
funny bone but anyway I, and
it's because you and I are a we
that I can laugh, not at you,
but with you you're laughing at
me, don't lie, you're laughing
at me.
If I were with a client, I
would not laugh at you if you
needed to use the words how come
.
Speaker 1: Well, because I know
you're not smelling when I'm
stepping in.
But the why I said yes on the
big musical instrument I am.
Speaker 2: I get it, but my why
encompasses how come.
But my why encompasses how come
.
My why is a multi-step process
that includes the how come.
Speaker 1: So I don't have to
add an extra step.
Well see, that would have been
more simple, it's just a
different way.
Speaker 2: I would rather laugh
at you actually, yeah.
Speaker 1: I know you enjoy it.
I laugh at myself too, so
that's okay, Because it's like
the why was?
So the why of the electric
guitar, why I said yes, was a
reason because of the last
little instruction book.
But then I was like, well, how
come I said yes to this?
Why?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: How come I did that
and what is the steps of it that
I wanted to do.
But I know you know to the
listeners.
Speaker 2: And so what was the
answer to the how come?
We're all curious.
Speaker 1: Because I want to be
multicultural, I want to be more
balanced in life and I want to
learn music.
I do want to, and that was the
outcome for me, no matter what
you said.
It was really your idea you
brought up.
I agreed to it.
Speaker 2: But then why did I
agree to it?
Why did I agree to that?
Speaker 1: And so it made it
more personal.
Speaker 2: I see.
Speaker 1: And so the whole part
of it was it didn't matter if
you were in my bubble or not.
If that would have come in my
head, I would have went through
the same process.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: And so the how come
for me is how I identify like
individual things within the why
, and which may work for some
people may not work for some
people.
Right, it's just like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if we bring
it back around and we kind of
wrap it into a nutshell, why?
The why question is
multifaceted.
Speaker 1: It can be general.
Speaker 2: And is beneficial if
you go ahead and visit those
different bullet points.
I guess within the why.
Speaker 1: Right, that's what I
use.
How come for?
Speaker 2: And you use the
verbology of how come to get you
down the list of those bullet
points, to really take it from a
general standpoint to a
localized personal standpoint.
Speaker 1: It's just a way to
create levels of thought for me,
yeah, and.
Speaker 2: I do the same thing.
I just don't necessarily call
it a how come.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so what,
why, how and how come, or how
come and how you can do that I
can.
Sometimes I do those steps in
opposite directions.
Speaker 2: Or you can just do
like I do, those steps in
opposite directions.
Or you can just do like I do
and the how is the steps or the
actions that I'm going to take
to accomplish it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And the why for me is
really digging deep, taking
that general concept and then
breaking it down into the sub
particles of my intimate being
personally Right, the sub
particles of my intimate being
personally right, taking it from
a societal concept of why did I
react?
Why did that pop into my
reality?
Why?
Why do I feel drawn to it in
this very moment?
Do I feel drawn to it?
Is it something I truly want to
do?
Dig around in that.
If it is, why?
Is it?
Because I have a belief in
place that if I do this, it'll
make me look like a better
person to the them.
If I do this, it'll make my
parents prouder of me, because I
have some sort of story in my
head that my parents are not
proud of me.
If I do this, it'll make me
more successful, because I have
a wonky definition of what
success is If I like.
What is the why?
So when I'm doing my why, I'm
breaking it up into looking at
all of those different sections
and I and when I look at those,
I write them down and I visit
each question that comes up and
whenever I ask the question, I
sit for a minute with the
question and I see how it makes
me feel, because it's going to
evoke some sort of feeling.
Even the lack of feeling is a
kind of feeling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, it's a
neutral point.
Speaker 2: So whenever I ask the
question of why am I doing?
Why did I agree to do this?
And we'll talk about weight
just because that's our topic at
hand.
The first thing that might pop
into my head is wait, did I
really agree to do that, or was
it just a verbal going along
with the crowd?
Yeah, you know what I'm cool
with me.
I didn't really agree to do
that, I was just kind of going
along with the crowd.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well then that's when
it can bifurcate.
If you want it to, why did you
go along with the crowd?
And that'll take you in a
different direction, and that'll
take you.
I mean, if you want it to, why
did you go along with the crowd?
And that'll take you in a
different direction, and that'll
take you.
I mean, if you truly believe
that you're comfortable with
your weight and nothing really
pops up, then I would go a
little bit deeper and explore
okay, why did I feel it
necessary to just jive in with
the crowd and do what they were
doing?
And that could take you down
that adventure, which would be
very interesting.
But then if I look at it and I
say, oh, you know what, when I
think about my viewpoint of my
body image, yeah, I don't really
like the fact that my pants
feel tighter.
Okay, so then let's dig around
more in the why.
Why do I not?
What belief am I running?
What program am I running that
makes me feel uncomfortable in
my physical body?
Then from there, you just keep
going down the list, keep
dropping a level, keep dropping
a level, keep dropping a level.
And as you sit with each one of
those, the emotions will come up
about it in the process of
working through it, and whenever
an uncomfortable emotion comes
up in it, that's a good
indicator that you might want to
spend a little bit extra time
on that level to really explore.
Why does it make me feel that
way?
What's in the programming that
causes that emotional guidance
system?
Speaker 1: to go off.
You mean how?
Speaker 2: come.
Speaker 1: So, going on through
that, we have kind of given
everybody the steps of why, what
, how come, how come and how
well, we didn't really explore
the how and the how is what's
next in it.
And I've always taught people
and this has been over the many
years is when you you you
probably heard this before make
your goals timed and attainable.
And what I mean by timed and
attainable is, whatever that
timeline is, because it's yours,
it's your goal.
It can be 25 years, it can be
25 seconds.
That time is yours.
Now time is a whole different
rabbit hole topic, but because
it can be instantaneous in the
spiritual world.
But attainable is the key, and
so, then, the steps behind it
need to be simplified and direct
.
Speaker 2: Yes.
That's the how that's a very
general, step-by-step process,
but it can trip up if you're not
careful.
So I will agree on some level,
but I will agree to disagree on
a few levels.
I feel like we want to give
them just a tad bit more
information so that they
possibly would help them, maybe
not have to experience the trip
up parts of it.
Parts of it.
When you give a goal a time, if
you're not careful and you have
an expectation or an intrinsic
need for it to look exactly like
that, then it can jam you up
and it-.
Speaker 1: And be limiting, and
it can limit you.
So be careful on setting a time
limit on things and to be more
descriptive about it is if you
say, um, I'm going to find a
hundred dollars today, you just
put a topic in place on a
timeline to kind of make people
understand a little bit.
More so if you say I'm going to
find a hundred dollars today,
you've just limited yourself.
You could have found a thousand
and you could have found it
right now.
More so, if you say I'm going
to find $100 today, you've just
limited yourself.
You could have found $1,000.
And you could have found it
right now.
Speaker 2: But if you said it
like this, I want to find at
least $100 no later than today.
Then that opens up the amount,
and so, therefore, it could be
two hundred dollars, it could be
three, it could be five, it
could be ten million, it could
be whatever it opens it up.
Yeah, so then let's see if we
can restate the whole sentence
to where it opens it up on a on
a timeline basis.
Um, the the idea is is that you
want to give yourself space,
that if it's meant to come to
you in the next five seconds,
you don't want to create a
limiting sentence or belief that
keeps it from coming sooner
than the timeline by which you
believe is actually has the
ability to happen.
Because if you have a belief in
place, that and we use money
because it's a really, really
good example If you see that
$10,000 is a lot of money and it
is more difficult to what
people believe goes on, which is
to manifest that into your
reality, and we'll just kind of
keep on that train of thought
because it can get very rabbit
hole-ish If you believe that
$100 is a lot of money to try
and manifest, then you may not
be able to get there from there,
right, and if you feel like
that being able to manifest it
in the next five minutes is
completely unattainable and just
not even cognitively something
that you can wrap your brain
around, then you haven't lived
the belief or you haven't worked
with that and it just is an
unattainable thing.
You just can't get there from
there.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
Speaker 2: And so don't let
putting timelines and amounts on
things cause additional
limiting beliefs within the
intention that you're making.
Speaker 1: I agree with your
statement.
Speaker 2: But it is a good idea
to break things up into.
You know the adage out there
eat the elephant one bite at a
time, don't make an expectation
or don't set something up that
is so unattainable that you set
yourself up for a non-win-win
situation I agree, I agree and
so I I understand what you're
saying.
Make it a small little baby
steps to get you from that point
a to point b, but don't limit
yourself.
For example, I want a job by
the end of the year that allows
me to make a hundred thousand
dollars.
Don't be so staunch in that it
has to be a hundred thousand
dollars that when you only make
92,000 and it took a year and a
day that you walk away from it
saying, oh my God, I don't know
how to manifest anything.
I'm disappointed because it
didn't look like what I put my
intention out there for.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm
saying.
No, I agree.
Speaker 2: Or, at the same time,
if you can get to a place where
you're malleable and very
flexible in it and you just sit
the intention out there and you
can open up even broader, you
could make $200,000 in 10 days.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
Speaker 2: And that's the idea
situation.
I agree Is being open enough to
be able to do that.
Speaker 1: And then taking the
steps.
And I want to add this little
side note this should all be
written down.
You should really journal it or
, if not, make a you know like
we use our phones for verbal
notes and those kind of things
to where you do it.
And the steps should be short
and direct.
Speaker 2: Do we need to talk
about why it might be important
to write them down?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
I think we've covered it before
.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I disagree.
Well then talk about it, Because
if you're I mean if you just
keep it logged in your head life
happens Like that's what we're
about here.
We're about showing people how
to formulate your spiritual
daily activities around the
human experiences and how to
juggle all of that.
And so if you, if you're in
your private moments and things
come up then you got to get up
and go get a shower and go to
work, then sometimes it gets
lost and you don't remember to
go back and revisit it or you
don't remember exactly the
details and it can get lost in
there.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: And so writing it
down is a very good way of
keeping track with things as
they pop up.
It's not always the most
convenient, some would say, but
nowadays we have our phone,
we've got the little notepad on
our phone.
We even have the voice recorder
.
Speaker 1: You can turn that
thing on real quick and make a
little recorded note to yourself
without even having to type
anything agreed and so writing
down doesn't mean getting out
the stone tablet and hammer and
chisel ping, ping, ping, ping,
ping, hammer and chisel it in
anymore ping ping, ping, ping,
ping, hammer and chisel it in
anymore.
Speaker 2: Just make some sort
of memory notation of what, what
the topic is, and then the
things that pop up throughout
your human day that would be
beneficial to look up, or the
information that comes in
throughout your human day that
coordinate with the topic that
you set the intention to work on
.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
Speaker 2: Everybody listen.
Speaker 1: Our cat is begging to
get into the office.
Speaker 2: We call it going to
work, and so she likes to come
to work, but she's not very
helpful.
Speaker 1: She sounds funny too.
Speaker 2: She's not very
beneficial when she comes to
work.
Speaker 1: So the last part of
it is well, there's two parts
left.
I think the steps need to be
short and direct.
Speaker 2: Some people it can be
.
It depends on where you're at
in your belief systems.
Obviously, okay, if you are in
a place where you're just really
kind of trying to embrace the
big concept that you just set
for yourself and and you've got
to work yourself slowly towards
the idea of making a hundred
thousand dollars, you do have to
take it in baby steps, because
if you try to look at the whole
big picture of, oh my god, okay,
how am I going to do that?
It can look daunting and then
it's like, okay, wait, I've been
off more than I can chew, I
can't do this.
So then it goes in that never
accomplished New Year's
resolution pile.
Speaker 1: Right and short and
direct will give you the
opportunity to mark them off as
you go too, and it makes you
feel accomplished.
Speaker 2: That's right, and it
builds energy and confidence.
Speaker 1: And I think the last
part of that is the commitment.
You know, like we were
counseling the other day and,
and the main part of it that
counseling session was leave no
doubt.
Um, for me, leave no doubt
means make sure that, including
yourself, there's nobody around
you that has any doubt that
you're accomplishing this goal.
Speaker 2: No, I, I would say it
even better than that.
There is any doubt that you're
accomplishing this goal.
No, I would say it even better
than that.
There is no doubt within you.
Speaker 1: That's what I said,
including yourself.
Speaker 2: Only yourself.
I wouldn't worry about the
people outside of me.
Speaker 1: Well, some people
aren't in that spot.
So if you are going to leave,
no doubt make sure you
accomplish it within the way
that makes you feel better, and
even if that includes what you,
if you care what other people
think.
Speaker 2: some people aren't in
that place.
Speaker 1: And when.
When you leave no doubt, you
make sure that you understand
that the doubt behind it only
comes from you, because you're
worried about what other people
think, or worried about what
yourself thinks, and so leave no
doubt that you're going to
accomplish this goal.
You're going to find the
beliefs behind it.
You've already identified all
the why and the steps, and
you've documented all this.
Leave no doubt ever in your
mind that you're going to
accomplish this goal.
When you get up in the morning,
yeah.
Speaker 2: So my question real
quick on that would be okay.
Well, so once you've gotten to
all those places and you're at
that point so once you've gotten
to all those places and you're
at that point, what does it feel
like?
How do you know when you get
inspiration to do something,
what is the next step?
Like if you've decided, okay,
I'm committed and this is
happening, and whatever, where
do you get the next step?
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: You've identified the
steps.
Like if you're sitting there
humanly and you've, and you've
done all of this and you're like
, okay, what are the steps?
And you wait and you don't
really hear anything, or you
don't really, or two concepts
come in.
How do how do you know which
one to pick?
Or how do you know when it's
time to act?
Speaker 1: Well, I think you
just act.
The energy has to get moving
and sometimes those steps will
change.
Speaker 2: And what does that
look like?
Like you just get up and walk
across the floor.
You just do it.
That may be step one.
Speaker 1: That's maybe step one
.
Just do it.
Whatever that first step is,
just go do it.
Speaker 2: What if nothing is
coming to you?
Well then, Of what to do.
Speaker 1: I can't answer that
question.
You're the doctor.
Oh, thanks, wow, because I
can't talk for experience of
that.
Really, if there's something
that I've identified how come
for, then normally the steps
come to me when I'm thinking of
how come, okay, generally Okay,
generally Okay, what do you
think?
Speaker 2: Well, I can speak
from experience in the early
days, where I get everything all
situated up and I've identified
all this in my book, but then
it's like I sit there and I'm
kind of feeling around.
Okay, so like, what do I do
first?
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's
all.
Speaker 2: Like, okay, I know
that I know humanly, in order to
accomplish this, I've got to do
X, y, z, but X and Y, they can
be done together, they can be
done together.
Or I know that in accomplishing
things, I got kind of confused
and jammed up on okay, well,
what do I do first?
And not being able to decide
okay, what do I do first, and so
that in and of itself tripped
me up a little bit and I did
nothing because I didn't know
what to do first, I guess, is
where I'm trying to take it.
And so how do you know, when
you're taking baby steps, how do
you know what's the thing to do
first, or what's the like where
do you go from there?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I got
nothing.
You keep asking the same
question, just wording it
differently.
I have no clue, because that's
not always fair.
Speaker 2: I was just trying to
go there in case there were
people out there that had it,
that were in that place.
Speaker 1: I really don't know.
Speaker 2: All I can say is that
what worked for me was I just
chose one If they felt like they
were equally comparable and it
didn't necessarily feel like it
mattered.
I had to really lean on my
guidance system on how it felt,
and so if I had made my to-do
list and I had two items on that
list that felt very similar, I
would just pick one and I would
just kind of go with it just to
get the energy moving, just to
get the ball rolling, just to
get the action going.
And then what I found was that
by doing that it got the energy
moving.
It brought in a little more of
the excitement, which then
motivated me to do the next
thing and the next thing and the
next thing.
And I found that the reason that
happened for me was because I
was still looking at it from too
broad of a perspective and I
had that deer in the headlight
moment still kind of going on
that I wasn't acknowledging and
it stunned me for a minute of OK
, I've got this big, huge plan
in place and, oh my God, now
it's time to start.
And I got to do all these things
.
And so I was still looking at
it from a very broad place and
so dialing it in, bringing it
back into the now and just
picking something, picking one
of those things it feels like I
can do this or I can do this and
they're very equal, Like one is
not going to benefit one or the
other, and just taking that
first step towards the unknown
that gets you from that
uncomfortable place to the
comfortable place of, okay, I'm
doing this, I'm doing it, Even
if it's something simple like
answering the phone which just
rang and that's why I said that,
Sorry, that was a human glitch
in the spiritual information
coming in.
Even if it's just something
simple, like if you're starting
a business, information coming
in.
Even if it's just something
simple like if you're starting a
business ordering business
cards, just to get it in a
tangible format to where it's
like okay, this is now an actual
thing and sit with that, then
that propels you into the next
step.
Speaker 1: I think, is what I
wanted to add.
Well, I feel complete.
Are you complete?
Yeah, All righty guys.
Hey, thanks for listening for
the season two episode one of
the spiritual grind, and welcome
to the new year.
It's January 1st 2025.
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Speaker 1: Have an awesome New
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